Re: [sphinx-dev] Re: Forewords / Preface

2010-12-09 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 21:57, Michael P. Soulier
msoul...@digitaltorque.ca wrote:
 On 08/12/10 Lennart Regebro said:

 Well, for that we'd need a rst builder in Sphinx, as Sphinx has
 several custom commands rst2pdf doesn't understand. :-)

 You mean like this?

 extensions = ['rst2pdf.pdfbuilder']

Aha, indeed. This may be a better way forward in the long run, if it's
possible to get near professional level typesetting out of it, which
includes ligatures and stuff. Has anyone made a nice book template?

/Lennart

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Re: [sphinx-dev] Re: Forewords / Preface

2010-12-09 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 09/12/10 Lennart Regebro said:

 Aha, indeed. This may be a better way forward in the long run, if it's
 possible to get near professional level typesetting out of it, which
 includes ligatures and stuff. Has anyone made a nice book template?

I wonder if you could find one here.

http://rst2a.com/

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Re: [sphinx-dev] Re: Forewords / Preface

2010-12-09 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 12:52, Michael P. Soulier
msoul...@digitaltorque.ca wrote:
 On 09/12/10 Lennart Regebro said:

 Aha, indeed. This may be a better way forward in the long run, if it's
 possible to get near professional level typesetting out of it, which
 includes ligatures and stuff. Has anyone made a nice book template?

 I wonder if you could find one here.

 http://rst2a.com/

No, just css and tex classes there.

Good resource though!

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Re: [sphinx-dev] Re: Forewords / Preface

2010-12-09 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 09/12/10 Lennart Regebro said:

 No, just css and tex classes there.
 
 Good resource though!

http://code.google.com/p/rst2pdf/source/browse/#svn/trunk/rst2pdf/styles

I don't see one called book.

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Re: [sphinx-dev] Re: Forewords / Preface

2010-12-08 Thread Reinout van Rees

On 12/07/2010 10:35 AM, Lennart Regebro wrote:

So obviously you can't use book, but*must*  use report. Or
something. I don't know, LaTeX is a mess, and Sphinx on top of it
doesn't help. Both the world of LaTeX and Sphinx support for it should
be simplified. Maybe I'll work on that if I ever write a second book.
:-)


Alternative (what I did for my PhD thesis): use restructured text for as 
long as possible and, near the end, generate the latex stuff and 
continue working and tweaking with that.



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Re: [sphinx-dev] Re: Forewords / Preface

2010-12-08 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 11:50, Reinout van Rees rein...@vanrees.org wrote:
 Alternative (what I did for my PhD thesis): use restructured text for as
 long as possible and, near the end, generate the latex stuff and continue
 working and tweaking with that.

I'm already disappointed with the amount of LaTex I need to learn to
use Sphinx to get something that looks reasonable (especially with
regards to fonts, which is apprently a messy hell in LaTex).

So no thanks. :-)

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Re: [sphinx-dev] Re: Forewords / Preface

2010-12-08 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 07/12/10 Reinout van Rees said:

 Alternative (what I did for my PhD thesis): use restructured text for as  
 long as possible and, near the end, generate the latex stuff and  
 continue working and tweaking with that.

rst2pdf is also a nice alternative...

But, the LaTeX output must be solid. I'll try to help with that as I've seen
many failures to process the latex output.

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Re: [sphinx-dev] Re: Forewords / Preface

2010-12-08 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 19:20, Michael P. Soulier
msoul...@digitaltorque.ca wrote:
 On 07/12/10 Reinout van Rees said:

 Alternative (what I did for my PhD thesis): use restructured text for as
 long as possible and, near the end, generate the latex stuff and
 continue working and tweaking with that.

 rst2pdf is also a nice alternative...

Well, for that we'd need a rst builder in Sphinx, as Sphinx has
several custom commands rst2pdf doesn't understand. :-)

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Re: [sphinx-dev] Re: Forewords / Preface

2010-12-08 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 08/12/10 Lennart Regebro said:

 Well, for that we'd need a rst builder in Sphinx, as Sphinx has
 several custom commands rst2pdf doesn't understand. :-)

You mean like this?

extensions = ['rst2pdf.pdfbuilder']

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Re: [sphinx-dev] Re: Forewords / Preface

2010-12-07 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 16:08, Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com wrote:
 In LaTeX. It seems so, but I thought the sphinx classes was based on
 the 'book' class, which should support it...

Apparently there are more than one class involved here, as shown here:

\def\sphinxdocclass{report}
\documentclass[letterpaper,11pt,english]{sphinxcustom}

Now, if you want to change the sphinxdocclass, you change
latex_docclass in the config.py. (Logical, eh?)
Then it complains that my sphinxcustom class doesn't implement
sphinxcustom (weirdly it doesn't complain about that before).
And after changing that you get an error:

LaTeX Error: \endabstract undefined.

So obviously you can't use book, but *must* use report. Or
something. I don't know, LaTeX is a mess, and Sphinx on top of it
doesn't help. Both the world of LaTeX and Sphinx support for it should
be simplified. Maybe I'll work on that if I ever write a second book.
:-)

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Re: [sphinx-dev] Re: Forewords / Preface

2010-12-02 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 11:50, Jan Ulrich Hasecke
juhase...@googlemail.com wrote:
 \frontmatter

That gave the error undefined control sequence, weirdly enough.

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Re: [sphinx-dev] Re: Forewords / Preface

2010-12-02 Thread Jan Ulrich Hasecke

Am 02.12.2010 um 13:47 schrieb Lennart Regebro:

 juhase...@googlemail.com wrote:
 \frontmatter
 
 That gave the error undefined control sequence, weirdly enough.

In Sphinx or LaTeX? Maybo not all classes support this. :-(

juh

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Re: [sphinx-dev] Re: Forewords / Preface

2010-12-02 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 13:51, Jan Ulrich Hasecke
juhase...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Am 02.12.2010 um 13:47 schrieb Lennart Regebro:

 juhase...@googlemail.com wrote:
 \frontmatter

 That gave the error undefined control sequence, weirdly enough.

 In Sphinx or LaTeX? Maybo not all classes support this. :-(

In LaTeX. It seems so, but I thought the sphinx classes was based on
the 'book' class, which should support it...


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Re: [sphinx-dev] Re: Forewords / Preface

2010-12-01 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 19:18, Meera meera.purn...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Lennart,

 I am using Patch/diff for my Book (http://eclipsebook.in) .

 I have tried to explain the steps in my blog.
 http://blog.dehlia.in/2010/11/professional-book-like-structure-with-sphinx/

 Regards,
 Meera

OK, so having a

.. raw:: latex

\setcounter{secnumdepth}{-1}


in the start and a

.. raw:: latex

\setcounter{secnumdepth}{2}

At the end of the introduction means it won't get a chapter number,
which is good enough. Thanks!

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Re: [sphinx-dev] Re: Forewords / Preface

2010-12-01 Thread Jan Ulrich Hasecke

Am 01.12.2010 um 09:21 schrieb Lennart Regebro:
 
 OK, so having a
 
 .. raw:: latex
 
\setcounter{secnumdepth}{-1}
 
 
 in the start and a
 
 .. raw:: latex
 
\setcounter{secnumdepth}{2}
 
 At the end of the introduction means it won't get a chapter number,
 which is good enough. Thanks!


You can use 

\frontmatter

\mainmatter

and \backmatter

for foreword, main text and things like bibliography etc.

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[sphinx-dev] Re: Forewords / Preface

2010-11-30 Thread Meera
Hi Lennart,

I am using Patch/diff for my Book (http://eclipsebook.in) .

I have tried to explain the steps in my blog.
http://blog.dehlia.in/2010/11/professional-book-like-structure-with-sphinx/

Regards,
Meera

On Nov 30, 2:21 pm, Lennart Regebro rege...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm doing a book with Sphinx, and I basically have one lingering
 problem I haven't been able to work around: I'd like to have a oreword
 or preface (and maybe an about this book) that are unnumbered, or at
 least numbered i, ii or something, and not 1. Any ideas of how I can
 achieve this in the LaTeX output?

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