Re: [sqlalchemy] Re: [RFC] Connecting SqlAlchemy to NoSQL DBs

2016-09-28 Thread Olemis Lang
On 9/28/16, Ashfaque Siddiqui  wrote:
> Hey Olemis,
>
> Did you ever find anything in response to this request?

Unfortunately , not quite . Though I've heard of a project named
MongoAlchemy [1]_ . I am not sure of how much related it is to
SQLAlchemy at all . OTOH Apacha Allura connects Turbogears to MongoDB
instances via Ming [2]_ .


Beyond this , MongoEngine [3]_ ORM looks similar to Django's .


Sorry for not having more info . Should you find anything else, it
would be nice if you took the time to share .

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.. [1] http://www.mongoalchemy.org/

.. [2] http://ming.readthedocs.io/en/latest/index.html

.. [3] http://mongoengine.org/

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[sqlalchemy] Re: [RFC] Connecting SqlAlchemy to NoSQL DBs

2016-09-27 Thread Ashfaque Siddiqui
Hey Olemis,

Did you ever find anything in response to this request? I have a similar 
question, we are able to use SQLAlchemy for our SQL based dbs, but looking 
for an abstraction layer for NoSQL - the issue is that these NoSQL dbs are 
also conceptually quite different but maybe for subcategories there could 
be abstractions (Graph, Object, Document, etc.).

Thanks,
Ash

On Saturday, August 1, 2015 at 1:47:56 AM UTC+6, Olemis Lang wrote:
>
> Hello everybody . 
>
> This is the first message I send to the group , so I'll introduce 
> myself . My name is Olemis Lang . I have +10 years of experience in 
> the software development / engineering business , most of the time 
> doing something related to Python development . I participated in 
> PyCon 2014 , in the tutorial sessions for SQL Alchemy , conferences 
> and sprints . 
>
> For further please see my Linkedin profile [1]_ 
>
> To the point now ... 
>
> My team has to start working on two web/mobile projects and in the 
> process it is required to develop at least standalone platform (e.g. 
> not possible to use Django nor any other web framework ...) . In the 
> server side one of the requirements consists in (1) supporting 
> relational databases (2) as well as NoSQL DBs , initially emphasising 
> in Apache HBase , Apache Cassandra and MongoDB . 
>
> I'd really (<= yes, I mean it ;) like to use SQLAlchemy but it's been 
> hard for me to find support for NoSQL . I guess this might be normal 
> considering the fact that te framework seems to be, more than 
> everything, a SQL toolkit . 
>
> As such I was about to turn the SQLAlchemy page and continue looking 
> for alternatives . Nevertheless during my research I've heard of other 
> solutions which make me wonder of whether there's still any hope . 
>
> The first one is Ming , inspired in SQLAlchemy [3]_ and providing 
> convenience methods on query results [2]_ . If they were "compatible 
> enough" at the API level so that the same or a similar contract is 
> satisfied by both API functions then it might be possible to use them 
> while maintaining a single code base . Is this a feasible approach ? 
>
> The second one is Apache Traffodion [5]_ which claims to be a fully 
> functional SQL-on-Hadoop solution providing "comprehensive ANSI SQL 
> language support including full-functioned data definition (DDL), data 
> manipulation (DML), transaction control (TCL) and database utility 
> support" [4]_ . Is there any integration with SqlAlchemy ? 
>
> There is a number of other SQL-on-Hadoop tools out there . I'll list 
> below the ones I've found that might be a serious candidate for me to 
> consider : 
>
> - Apache Hive - https://hive.apache.org/ => HBase 
> - Stinger - http://hortonworks.com/labs/stinger/ => HBase 
> - Apache Drill - https://drill.apache.org/ => HBase , MongoDB ... 
> Cassandra [7]_ ? 
> - Spark SQL - https://spark.apache.org/sql/ => supported by PySpark 
> - Apache Phoenix - http://phoenix.apache.org/ => HBase 
> - Presto - http://prestodb.io/ => HBase/Hive , Cassandra 
>
> I'd appreciate if you could provide me with any suggestions or hints . 
> In the end I'd like to know whether SQLAlchemy (or another lib with 
> "almost-compatible" API) can be considered as a DB abstraction layer 
> supporting traditional RDBMS as well as the NoSQL DBs mentioned above 
> (i.e. Apache HBase , Apache Cassandra , MongoDB ) . Thanks in advance 
> for your time . 
>
> .. [1] https://ca.linkedin.com/pub/olemis-lang/3b/696/b59 
>
> .. [2] http://merciless.sourceforge.net/tour.html#querying-the-database 
>
> .. [3] 
> http://blog.mongodb.org/post/27907941873/using-the-python-toolkit-ming-to-accelerate-your
>  
>
> .. [4] https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/TrafodionProposal#preview 
>
> .. [5] http://trafodion.incubator.apache.org/ 
>
> .. [6] https://drill.apache.org/ 
>
> .. [7] 
> http://www.confusedcoders.com/bigdata/apache-drill/sql-on-cassandra-querying-cassandra-via-apache-drill
>  
>
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>
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