Re: [sqlite] SQLite Browser (Mac OS 10.3)

2004-01-19 Thread David Schmitt

I understand the difference between the two and use them both often, 
for their intended purposes. Yes, it was Console that I had open 
each time I was launching SQLite Browser and attempting to monitor 
for errors... and each time Console showed nothing. I have tried 
this on multiple computers running 10.3.

In Console, you may need to change which log you are looking at.
Ah... very effective post. Any idea which log I should view?


You may want the system log. Open Console.app, click on the "Logs" icon 
in the toolbar. From the list, choose system.log. Or you may want the 
crash log. Expand "~/Library/Logs". Then expand "Crash Reporter". You 
should find "SQLite Database Browser.crash.log" there.

FYI, I've been using the SQLite Database Browser successfully on 10.2.8 
through 10.3.2. Can't remember for certain, but I believe I downloaded 
the binary, did not compile myself. No version number, but creation 
date is October 2, 2003.

David

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Re: [sqlite] SQLite Browser (Mac OS 10.3)

2004-01-18 Thread Mauricio Piacentini

Yes... in OS X, everything that happens is written on in an app 
called Console. I write the author a while back too and he asked that 
I attempt to launch it again with Console running and then send him 
whatever errors/messages appear, but... strangely... I am still 
getting nothing in the Console... as I did then.
I answered to the original request at Sourceforge forums, so we can take 
it from there. Just wanted to point out that the MacOSX Console is not 
the same as the Terminal window, this is a common confusion for users 
coming from Unix/Linux. 
I answered this at the sqlitebrowser foruns, and there is a new binary 
for OSX 10.3 available as well (compiled with the latest Qt.) It works 
ok in the machines I tested, but then again the old one also worked. 
This new build however has some Qt fixes and official support for 
Panther, so you could try it and report if the problem continues. I 
don't know why it does not work on your machine, and you gave me no new 
information that we can use to find the source of the problem. The only 
possible clue for this come from the Console, really. Try monitoring the 
system.log. Another generic way to cause this problem in all OSX bundles 
is if for some reason the name of the executable inside the bundle does 
not match the one specified in the plist, for example because of an 
error in the decompression, or if you rename the executable.

It would also be better to move the discussion to the sqlitebrowser 
foruns. We would be able to benefit other users of the tool if we can 
find out why it does not work on your particular setup, and the problem 
is not related to the main SQLite library, and of little interest to 
other users of this list. Thanks!

Regards,
Mauricio


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Re: [sqlite] SQLite Browser (Mac OS 10.3)

2004-01-16 Thread Will Leshner
On Jan 16, 2004, at 7:31 AM, Wade Preston Shearer wrote:

Ah... very effective post. Any idea which log I should view?



Yes, I wanted to add that info, but I'm not sure myself. I want to say 
"system.log" but I'm not sure. When I think when I add debugging code 
to sqlite myself, that's where it ends up.

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Re: [sqlite] SQLite Browser (Mac OS 10.3)

2004-01-16 Thread Wade Preston Shearer
I understand the difference between the two and use them both often, 
for their intended purposes. Yes, it was Console that I had open each 
time I was launching SQLite Browser and attempting to monitor for 
errors... and each time Console showed nothing. I have tried this on 
multiple computers running 10.3.

In Console, you may need to change which log you are looking at.
Ah... very effective post. Any idea which log I should view?



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Re: [sqlite] SQLite Browser (Mac OS 10.3)

2004-01-16 Thread Will Leshner
On Jan 16, 2004, at 7:15 AM, Wade Preston Shearer wrote:

I understand the difference between the two and use them both often, 
for their intended purposes. Yes, it was Console that I had open each 
time I was launching SQLite Browser and attempting to monitor for 
errors... and each time Console showed nothing. I have tried this on 
multiple computers running 10.3.

In Console, you may need to change which log you are looking at.

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Re: [sqlite] SQLite Browser (Mac OS 10.3)

2004-01-16 Thread Wade Preston Shearer
Yes... in OS X, everything that happens is written on in an app 
called Console. I write the author a while back too and he asked that 
I attempt to launch it again with Console running and then send him 
whatever errors/messages appear, but... strangely... I am still 
getting nothing in the Console... as I did then.
I answered to the original request at Sourceforge forums, so we can 
take it from there. Just wanted to point out that the MacOSX Console 
is not the same as the Terminal window, this is a common confusion for 
users coming from Unix/Linux. The Console is a separate application 
that logs system level errors that would prevent an app from 
launching, like the lack of shared libraries, etc. Make sure you are 
really checking Console.app and not the terminal window.
I understand the difference between the two and use them both often, 
for their intended purposes. Yes, it was Console that I had open each 
time I was launching SQLite Browser and attempting to monitor for 
errors... and each time Console showed nothing. I have tried this on 
multiple computers running 10.3.

As someone wrote already, shared libraries are definately a weak spot 
under OSX. Some consider their implementation simply broke. I would 
not go as far, but there are certainly something not right about them 
specially if you are launching from the Finder. I believe the standard 
SQLite distribution does not compile as a shared library under OSX 
exactly because of this problems, can anyone confirm this?


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Re: [sqlite] SQLite Browser (Mac OS 10.3)

2004-01-16 Thread Mauricio Piacentini

Yes... in OS X, everything that happens is written on in an app called Console. I write the author a while back too and he asked that I attempt to launch it again with Console running and then send him whatever errors/messages appear, but... strangely... I am still getting nothing in the Console... as I did then.
I answered to the original request at Sourceforge forums, so we can take 
it from there. Just wanted to point out that the MacOSX Console is not 
the same as the Terminal window, this is a common confusion for users 
coming from Unix/Linux. The Console is a separate application that logs 
system level errors that would prevent an app from launching, like the 
lack of shared libraries, etc. Make sure you are really checking 
Console.app and not the terminal window.
As someone wrote already, shared libraries are definately a weak spot 
under OSX. Some consider their implementation simply broke. I would not 
go as far, but there are certainly something not right about them 
specially if you are launching from the Finder. I believe the standard 
SQLite distribution does not compile as a shared library under OSX 
exactly because of this problems, can anyone confirm this?

Regards,
Mauricio
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Re: [sqlite] SQLite Browser (Mac OS 10.3)

2004-01-14 Thread Mauricio Piacentini
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...on Mac OS 10.3?


What error you get?
None. That's what's strange about it. It won't even launch. It starts in 
the dock but dies one second (literally) later.
I can run it on MacOSX 10.3.2. However the version of Qt used to compile 
the binaries does not support Panther officially, so the widgets do not 
look correct, specially buttons. There might be other subtle issues with 
Panther. I will try to find time to compile a newer version against the 
latest Qt, but please post a request directly to the sourceforge foruns 
if you have not done so.
If you are not using the binaries and have compiled from source you 
probably do not have Qt setup correctly for static compilation, or your 
environment is not setup correctly to use Qt shared libraries from the 
Finder. Since this list is dedicated to SQLite I would recommend 
checking the Qt forums, or posting to the sqlitebrowser message boards.

Regards,
Mauricio Piacentini
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Re: [sqlite] SQLite Browser (Mac OS 10.3)

2004-01-14 Thread Darren Duncan
At 12:27 PM -0700 1/14/04, Wade Preston Shearer wrote:
>Yes... in OS X, everything that happens is written on in an app called Console. I 
>write the author a while back too and he asked that I attempt to launch it again with 
>Console running and then send him whatever errors/messages appear, but... 
>strangely... I am still getting nothing in the Console... as I did then.

I use a Mac myself, though currently it is on 10.2.6.

To my knowledge, Console doesn't report *everything* that happens.  I believe it shows 
the text that is "printed to stderr" by applications.  Or at least it shows a lot of 
OS-detected problems.  For example, if the application you are launching dies because 
it can't find a shared library it needs, that will report in the console.  Or it did 
with a different app I tried.

As strange as it sounds, there is something else you should check, and that is whether 
any *other* applications also die on launch, especially ones that worked fine before.  
If you come to the point where anything you open tends to die immediately, that 
indicates an OS problem (I use this term broadly); usually saving changes in already 
open apps and then doing a normal restart will restore stability and let things launch 
then.  Whereas, if only one app fails but the others are fine, then the app would be 
the one with the problem.

-- Darren Duncan

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Re: [sqlite] SQLite Browser (Mac OS 10.3)

2004-01-14 Thread Christian Kienle
> Yes... in OS X, everything that happens is written on in an
> app called Console. I write the author a while back too and he
> asked that I attempt to launch it again with Console running
> and then send him whatever errors/messages appear, but...
> strangely... I am still getting nothing in the Console... as I
> did then.

Then I suggest to send a detailed error description the QtForum 
guys. There are also Trolltech employees around there...

I dont know what to do now. sorry.

Greets

-- 
Linux is like a wigwam - no gates, no windows and an apache 
inside.


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Re: [sqlite] SQLite Browser (Mac OS 10.3)

2004-01-14 Thread Wade Preston Shearer
None. That's what's strange about it. It won't even launch. It
starts in the dock but dies one second (literally) later.
I am not really familar with Macstuff.
In Qt there is something like qDebug. QDebug sends Debugmessages
to stderr. Perhaps you start sqlitebrowser from the commandline
and give us the output.
The author of the programm is away I think. I wrote him a email
for ages and got no answer...
Yes... in OS X, everything that happens is written on in an app called 
Console. I write the author a while back too and he asked that I 
attempt to launch it again with Console running and then send him 
whatever errors/messages appear, but... strangely... I am still getting 
nothing in the Console... as I did then.



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Re: [sqlite] SQLite Browser (Mac OS 10.3)

2004-01-14 Thread Christian Kienle
> None. That's what's strange about it. It won't even launch. It
> starts in the dock but dies one second (literally) later.

I am not really familar with Macstuff.
In Qt there is something like qDebug. QDebug sends Debugmessages 
to stderr. Perhaps you start sqlitebrowser from the commandline 
and give us the output.

The author of the programm is away I think. I wrote him a email 
for ages and got no answer...

Greets

-- 
Linux is like a wigwam - no gates, no windows and an apache 
inside.


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Re: [sqlite] SQLite Browser (Mac OS 10.3)

2004-01-14 Thread Wade Preston Shearer
Has anyone successfully run SQLite Browser...

	http://sqlitebrowser.sourceforge.net

...on Mac OS 10.3?
What error you get?
None. That's what's strange about it. It won't even launch. It starts 
in the dock but dies one second (literally) later.



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Re: [sqlite] SQLite Browser (Mac OS 10.3)

2004-01-14 Thread Christian Kienle
> Has anyone successfully run SQLite Browser...
>
>   http://sqlitebrowser.sourceforge.net
>
>
> ...on Mac OS 10.3?

Hi, 

not but you could ask there:
www.qtforum.org.

SqliteBrowser is written with the Qt toolkit. So the people there 
will help you.

There are also a few guys from the macside.

What error you get?

Greets

-- 
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inside.


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[sqlite] SQLite Browser (Mac OS 10.3)

2004-01-14 Thread Wade Preston Shearer
Has anyone successfully run SQLite Browser...

	http://sqlitebrowser.sourceforge.net

...on Mac OS 10.3?

	



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