Re: [sqlite] Best GUI?

2009-02-27 Thread Michael Comperchio
Jim Dodgen wrote:
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> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 5:19 AM, Michael Comperchio  
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>> Mike Eggleston wrote:
>> 
>>> On Thu, 26 Feb 2009, Nuno Magalh?es might have said:
>>>
>>>
>>>   
 This is a bit of a religious question, but which are the mest/most
 popular *nix GUIs out there? I'm using a firefox plugin but not
 entirely happy with it. What do you use and why?

 
>>> I prefer vi and sh.
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Re: [sqlite] Best GUI?

2009-02-27 Thread Alex Mandel
Nuno Magalhães wrote:
>> Do you want this for data entry, or developing and managing the database
>> via SQL. I have yet to see a really good front end for data entry
>> although Dabo shows promise as a tool to make good data entry tools.
> 
> Thanks, i'll look into it. I want it as a means to create the inicial
> schema and change it if necessary. Setting up constraints, data types,
> that sort of thing... For random queries i'd probably use the cli and
> for data entry i'll use php.
> 
> Nuno Magalhães
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Oh that's a different ballpark. I actually use Dia to draw my database
and then use dia2code to generate sql that can be run.
I've seen other variations of the same idea, UML diagram to SQL to code
is the basic idea. Of course most of them have no idea about the data
types for sqlite so you still end up typing out most of it.

Not really sure what you need a GUI for at that stage unless you want it
to baby step you with check boxes about your options. If that's what
you're looking for the firefox plugin is the closest thing I've seen to
that.

FYI- did you consider asking the plugin developer to add tools you think
are useful?

Alex

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Re: [sqlite] Best GUI?

2009-02-27 Thread Nuno Magalhães
> Do you want this for data entry, or developing and managing the database
> via SQL. I have yet to see a really good front end for data entry
> although Dabo shows promise as a tool to make good data entry tools.

Thanks, i'll look into it. I want it as a means to create the inicial
schema and change it if necessary. Setting up constraints, data types,
that sort of thing... For random queries i'd probably use the cli and
for data entry i'll use php.

Nuno Magalhães
LU#484677
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Re: [sqlite] Best GUI?

2009-02-27 Thread Alex Mandel
Nuno Magalhães wrote:
>> Here lots of  SQLite management tools
>>
>> http://www.sqlite.org/cvstrac/wiki?p=ManagementTools
> 
> Keyword being "lots". I've been to that site, which was what prompted
> me to write in the first place. I'm looking for either web-based or
> *nix. I know there are lots, i just want to know which one(s) you
> recomend and why. I've been using a firefox plugin called SQLite
> Manager but am not happy with it, i'd like more options, something
> similar to Oracle's SQLDeveloper (pref without the Java™) or even
> Access.
> 
> Btw, vi and sh do not qualify as GUI, i have my own tools for that, thanks.
> 
> Nuno Magalhães
> LU#484677

Do you want this for data entry, or developing and managing the database
via SQL. I have yet to see a really good front end for data entry
although Dabo shows promise as a tool to make good data entry tools.

Alex
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Re: [sqlite] Best GUI?

2009-02-27 Thread Jim Dodgen
Binary!  ... I only use 0's

On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 5:19 AM, Michael Comperchio  wrote:
> Mike Eggleston wrote:
>> On Thu, 26 Feb 2009, Nuno Magalh?es might have said:
>>
>>
>>> This is a bit of a religious question, but which are the mest/most
>>> popular *nix GUIs out there? I'm using a firefox plugin but not
>>> entirely happy with it. What do you use and why?
>>>
>>
>> I prefer vi and sh.
>>
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Re: [sqlite] Best GUI?

2009-02-27 Thread Soft In The Box
Hi,

Similar to SQL developer => wxSQLite+

Free: GPL v3
for Linux (compiled provided for mandriva 2009) but sources are provided.

Nuno Magalhães a écrit :
>> Here lots of  SQLite management tools
>>
>> http://www.sqlite.org/cvstrac/wiki?p=ManagementTools
>> 
>
> Keyword being "lots". I've been to that site, which was what prompted
> me to write in the first place. I'm looking for either web-based or
> *nix. I know there are lots, i just want to know which one(s) you
> recomend and why. I've been using a firefox plugin called SQLite
> Manager but am not happy with it, i'd like more options, something
> similar to Oracle's SQLDeveloper (pref without the Java™) or even
> Access.
>
> Btw, vi and sh do not qualify as GUI, i have my own tools for that, thanks.
>
> Nuno Magalhães
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Re: [sqlite] Best GUI?

2009-02-27 Thread Nuno Magalhães
> Here lots of  SQLite management tools
>
> http://www.sqlite.org/cvstrac/wiki?p=ManagementTools

Keyword being "lots". I've been to that site, which was what prompted
me to write in the first place. I'm looking for either web-based or
*nix. I know there are lots, i just want to know which one(s) you
recomend and why. I've been using a firefox plugin called SQLite
Manager but am not happy with it, i'd like more options, something
similar to Oracle's SQLDeveloper (pref without the Java™) or even
Access.

Btw, vi and sh do not qualify as GUI, i have my own tools for that, thanks.

Nuno Magalhães
LU#484677
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Re: [sqlite] Best GUI?

2009-02-27 Thread Soft In The Box
Hi,

Here lots of  SQLite management tools

http://www.sqlite.org/cvstrac/wiki?p=ManagementTools

Best regards

Fred

Nuno Magalhães a écrit :
> Greetings,
>
> This is a bit of a religious question, but which are the mest/most
> popular *nix GUIs out there? I'm using a firefox plugin but not
> entirely happy with it. What do you use and why?
>
> TIA,
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Re: [sqlite] Best GUI?

2009-02-27 Thread Jay A. Kreibich
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 03:04:05PM -0600, Mike Eggleston scratched on the wall:
> On Thu, 26 Feb 2009, Nuno Magalh?es might have said:
> 
> > This is a bit of a religious question, but which are the mest/most
> > popular *nix GUIs out there? I'm using a firefox plugin but not
> > entirely happy with it. What do you use and why?
> 
> I prefer vi and sh.

  +1, although I'm a ksh person myself.

   -j

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Re: [sqlite] Best GUI?

2009-02-27 Thread Michael Comperchio
Mike Eggleston wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Feb 2009, Nuno Magalh?es might have said:
>
>   
>> This is a bit of a religious question, but which are the mest/most
>> popular *nix GUIs out there? I'm using a firefox plugin but not
>> entirely happy with it. What do you use and why?
>> 
>
> I prefer vi and sh.
>
> Mike
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Real men code in binary. Like CodeBlocks & good old 'sql' myself.

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Re: [sqlite] Best GUI?

2009-02-27 Thread Mike Eggleston
On Thu, 26 Feb 2009, Nuno Magalh?es might have said:

> This is a bit of a religious question, but which are the mest/most
> popular *nix GUIs out there? I'm using a firefox plugin but not
> entirely happy with it. What do you use and why?

I prefer vi and sh.

Mike
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Re: [sqlite] Best GUI?

2009-02-27 Thread Alexey Pechnikov
Hello!

On Friday 27 February 2009 00:44:05 Alan Cohen wrote:
> This is a bit of a religious question, but which are the mest/most
> popular *nix GUIs out there? I'm using a firefox plugin but not
> entirely happy with it. What do you use and why?

I'm prefer tksqlite: 
http://reddog.s35.xrea.com/wiki/TkSQLite.html

And GUI from Spatialite project is useful for GIS developers:
http://www.gaia-gis.it/spatialite/

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Re: [sqlite] Best GUI?

2009-02-26 Thread Daniel Kasak
On Thu, 2009-02-26 at 16:41 -0600, P Kishor wrote:

> candid feedback
> 
> http://entropy.homelinux.org/axis/northwind.png nice
> http://entropy.homelinux.org/axis/client_services.png ouch!

It's actually not so bad once you use it a bit. It's an all-in-one CRM
app thingy that does basically everything the consultants have to do at
my previous work. The front page that you're looking at, I was told, had
to have some basic company details, and a contacts & locations list. So
that's what it's got. The other pages aren't so cluttered. We found it
was best to have everything integrated like this instead of lots of
little single-purpose forms because then all features are available
within a single click, and it doesn't take time to load the form up.
Also people start to get confused with lots of forms open. And
seriously, they need all those pages. It's quite common for a consultant
to navigate to a client, then flip through at least half of the pages.

Anyway, I don't work there any more, so my replacement is free to do
what he likes with it :)

Dan



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Re: [sqlite] Best GUI?

2009-02-26 Thread P Kishor
ahhh... my apologies... your screenshots show examples of applications
that can be built with your tool; they are not screenshots of the tool
itself. Never mind my critique.

I do look forward to your packages even though I am mostly a
shell/Perl DBI user and don't really need GUIs.

On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 4:41 PM, P Kishor  wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Daniel Kasak
>  wrote:
>> On Thu, 2009-02-26 at 15:44 -0600, Alan Cohen wrote:
>>
>>> None of these really provide the kind of data entry screens I'd like to
>>> have; I have not had time to try OOo Base yet.
>>
>> Well then. You'll be interested in my projects :)
>>
>> http://entropy.homelinux.org/axis/
>> ( my home server is unfortunately just a *little* unstable at the
>> moment ... hardware looks to be dying ... so apologies if it goes
>> down ... it's up at the moment anyway ). There are some screenshots of
>> production systems that use the 3 libraries.
>>
>> I'm currently working on a GUI builder ( unreleased, but I can be
>> convinced to dump a very early beta ). I have table browsing and data
>> viewing working. Also creating forms ( via glade ) is working. I plan on
>> implementing schema editing for SQLite and possibly MySQL. Datasheet
>> creating ( via the GUI ) is completely unimplemented. Anyway, email me
>> ( this address is probably better at the moment ) if you're interested
>> in the GUI builder, otherwise check out the libraries.
>>
>
>
> candid feedback
>
> http://entropy.homelinux.org/axis/northwind.png nice
> http://entropy.homelinux.org/axis/client_services.png ouch!
>
> see, you might want to try and emulate something like
> http://www.araelium.com/querious/screenshots/content_75p.png (MySQL tool) or
> http://fileability.net/Raw%20Screenshots/Form%20Design.png (built for
> and with SQLite)
>
> not something like
> http://www.bulkrenameutility.co.uk/Screenshots.php or
> http://www.billproduction.com/BillRed_scrsht.jpg
>
> In any case, your work looks very promising, and I look forward to
> seeing more of it as it would be a nice addition to the mix.
>
> --
> Puneet Kishor http://www.punkish.org/
> Nelson Institute for Environmental Studies http://www.nelson.wisc.edu/
> Carbon Model http://carbonmodel.org/
> Open Source Geospatial Foundation http://www.osgeo.org/
> Sent from: Madison WI United States.
>
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Re: [sqlite] Best GUI?

2009-02-26 Thread P Kishor
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 4:30 PM, Daniel Kasak
 wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-02-26 at 15:44 -0600, Alan Cohen wrote:
>
>> None of these really provide the kind of data entry screens I'd like to
>> have; I have not had time to try OOo Base yet.
>
> Well then. You'll be interested in my projects :)
>
> http://entropy.homelinux.org/axis/
> ( my home server is unfortunately just a *little* unstable at the
> moment ... hardware looks to be dying ... so apologies if it goes
> down ... it's up at the moment anyway ). There are some screenshots of
> production systems that use the 3 libraries.
>
> I'm currently working on a GUI builder ( unreleased, but I can be
> convinced to dump a very early beta ). I have table browsing and data
> viewing working. Also creating forms ( via glade ) is working. I plan on
> implementing schema editing for SQLite and possibly MySQL. Datasheet
> creating ( via the GUI ) is completely unimplemented. Anyway, email me
> ( this address is probably better at the moment ) if you're interested
> in the GUI builder, otherwise check out the libraries.
>


candid feedback

http://entropy.homelinux.org/axis/northwind.png nice
http://entropy.homelinux.org/axis/client_services.png ouch!

see, you might want to try and emulate something like
http://www.araelium.com/querious/screenshots/content_75p.png (MySQL tool) or
http://fileability.net/Raw%20Screenshots/Form%20Design.png (built for
and with SQLite)

not something like
http://www.bulkrenameutility.co.uk/Screenshots.php or
http://www.billproduction.com/BillRed_scrsht.jpg

In any case, your work looks very promising, and I look forward to
seeing more of it as it would be a nice addition to the mix.

-- 
Puneet Kishor http://www.punkish.org/
Nelson Institute for Environmental Studies http://www.nelson.wisc.edu/
Carbon Model http://carbonmodel.org/
Open Source Geospatial Foundation http://www.osgeo.org/
Sent from: Madison WI United States.
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Re: [sqlite] Best GUI?

2009-02-26 Thread Daniel Kasak
On Thu, 2009-02-26 at 15:44 -0600, Alan Cohen wrote:

> None of these really provide the kind of data entry screens I'd like to
> have; I have not had time to try OOo Base yet.

Well then. You'll be interested in my projects :)

http://entropy.homelinux.org/axis/
( my home server is unfortunately just a *little* unstable at the
moment ... hardware looks to be dying ... so apologies if it goes
down ... it's up at the moment anyway ). There are some screenshots of
production systems that use the 3 libraries.

I'm currently working on a GUI builder ( unreleased, but I can be
convinced to dump a very early beta ). I have table browsing and data
viewing working. Also creating forms ( via glade ) is working. I plan on
implementing schema editing for SQLite and possibly MySQL. Datasheet
creating ( via the GUI ) is completely unimplemented. Anyway, email me
( this address is probably better at the moment ) if you're interested
in the GUI builder, otherwise check out the libraries.

Dan



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Re: [sqlite] Best GUI?

2009-02-26 Thread Alan Cohen
This is a bit of a religious question, but which are the mest/most
popular *nix GUIs out there? I'm using a firefox plugin but not
entirely happy with it. What do you use and why?

A lot depends on what you are trying to accomplish.  For example, I move
between several machines, mixed between several Linux distros and two
Windows versions with an USB drive.  I have used sqliteadmin, sqlitespy, and
sqlite database browser (all Windows executables, all work under wine).  I
have also tried WinSQL (which is an ODBC-driven program I use when my
clients give me SQL access to the applications I'm installing for them.
None of these really provide the kind of data entry screens I'd like to
have; I have not had time to try OOo Base yet.

I'd be interested in other responses you get, as well.

Alan B. Cohen, CPA
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