Re: [sqlite] Quirks of SQLite. Was: Version 3.29.0

2019-07-11 Thread Simon Slavin
On 11 Jul 2019, at 3:21pm, Richard Hipp  wrote:

> EVERYONE:  If you have personally experienced some unusual or
> unexpected feature of SQLite that you think should be added to
> "quirks.html", please follow-up to this thread, or send me private
> email, so that I can consider adding it.

A) (perhaps add to the BOOLEAN) SQLite has no UNSIGNED affinity.

The Quirks document so far is all about SQLite's interpretation of SQL, but I 
am thinking about other things which might belong in it.

B) SQLite doesn't open a database when you call _open() .  And it doesn't 
return an error message if you try to open a non-existent database in read-only 
mode.

C) SQLite doesn't close a database when you call _close().  And if there's a 
pending statement which would precent closure, it won't return an error code.

D) SQLite (may ?) require read/write access to a database's folder even if you 
open the database in read-only mode.
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Re: [sqlite] Quirks of SQLite. Was: Version 3.29.0

2019-07-11 Thread Britton Kerin
On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 6:47 AM Simon Slavin  wrote:
>
> On 11 Jul 2019, at 3:21pm, Richard Hipp  wrote:
>
> > EVERYONE:  If you have personally experienced some unusual or
> > unexpected feature of SQLite that you think should be added to
> > "quirks.html", please follow-up to this thread, or send me private
> > email, so that I can consider adding it.
>
> A) (perhaps add to the BOOLEAN) SQLite has no UNSIGNED affinity.
>
> The Quirks document so far is all about SQLite's interpretation of SQL, but I 
> am thinking about other things which might belong in it.
>
> B) SQLite doesn't open a database when you call _open() .  And it doesn't 
> return an error message if you try to open a non-existent database in 
> read-only mode.
>
> C) SQLite doesn't close a database when you call _close().  And if there's a 
> pending statement which would precent closure, it won't return an error code.
>
> D) SQLite (may ?) require read/write access to a database's folder even if 
> you open the database in read-only mode.

Yes please to things like this going in there.

Britton
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Re: [sqlite] Quirks of SQLite. Was: Version 3.29.0

2019-07-11 Thread Chris Locke
Typos \ suggested amendments to quirks.html

Section 2
"When ever comparing SQLite to other SQL database engines"
When ever should be one word. "Whenever comparing SQLite to other SQL
database engines"

"An application interact with the database engine"
should be, "An application *interacts* with the database engine"

"using function calls, not be sending messages to a separate process"
should be, "using function calls, not *by* sending messages to a separate
process"

Section 3.2
"SQLite as no DATETIME datatype"
should be, "SQLite *has* no DATETIME datatype"

Section 4
"there where already countless millions of databases"
should be, "there *were* already countless millions of databases"


Thanks,
Chris


On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 3:22 PM Richard Hipp  wrote:

> On 7/11/19, David Raymond  wrote:
> > I don't see [quirks.html]
> > anywhere on https://sqlite.org/docs.html , maybe add it to the "Overview
> > Documents" section?
>
> The quirks.html document is now linked in the Overview Documents section.
>
> https://www.sqlite.org/quirks.html
>
> EVERYONE:  If you have personally experienced some unusual or
> unexpected feature of SQLite that you think should be added to
> "quirks.html", please follow-up to this thread, or send me private
> email, so that I can consider adding it.  Thanks.
>
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Re: [sqlite] Quirks of SQLite. Was: Version 3.29.0

2019-07-11 Thread James K. Lowden
On Thu, 11 Jul 2019 10:21:10 -0400
Richard Hipp  wrote:

> If you have personally experienced some unusual or unexpected feature
> of SQLite that you think should be added to "quirks.html", please
> follow-up to this thread

Thank you for publishing this page.  I would suggest these additions:

1.  Integer division by zero is not an error.  It results in NULL. 

2.  Update is not atomic.  Each row is written one at a time, and
"intermediate" updates that (temporarily) violate UNIQUE constraints
cause the update to fail, even if the the constraint would be satisfied
were the update carried to completion. 

3.  A table of isolation in SQL terms (repeatable read, etc.).
Isolation is affected by WAL and Begin Transaction.  SQLite differs
in that way quite sharply from other DBMSs.  

Of these, #2 is the most significant, because it's an unambiguous
violation of the SQL standard.  I'm unaware of any other SQL
implementation that enforces UPDATE constraints at a level invisible
to the user.  

--jkl
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