Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Installing on a NAS

2018-09-04 Thread dhallag


I have LMS running on a 10 year old QNAP NAS, the TS-219P+.  It's an ARM
based processor NAS.  There is a grace in running LMS on your NAS.  I
would say if you want to go this route, definitely get an x86 processer
NAS and not an ARM based.  This will allow you to install LMS from a
package that you can find here in the forums.  Plus if you use MusicIP /
Spicefly, that will be a ton easier..  actually everything will actually
be easier.  If you do get an ARM based processor, other then the
install, you'll have to manually install the SSL socket and getting
MusicIP to work is a challenge as well.

In regards to your NAS, I think the question you have to ask yourself is
why are you purchasing a NAS?  I have a two drive NAS and use mirroring,
so it's Raid 1.  My next NAS will be a 4 bay so I can do Raid 1+0
(mirroring and striping) -- that might be overkill as now a days as
there's enough free cloud storage to backup everything on your NAS to
the Cloud (so I have two redundancies), but it's nice to have a fast
local system.  Once of my drives went bad a year ago and I was really
impressed that all I had to do was eject the old drive, insert the new
drive and the NAS did everything else with no intervention my me -- what
it's supposed to do.  It was ridiculously simple.

I use my NAS as a central place for my family to store documents and
media, LMS and for security camera video feed storage.  I really don't
use much of the applications that QNAP has other than a weekly virus
scan and a weekly sync to my cloud storage.  Then when I am not home, I
just grab what I need from the cloud storage.  But I can tell you that
QNAP has a ridiculous number of media, utility and tools applications
and their support is stellar.

>From a power use perspective and ease of use, even though I haven't
tried it (yet), I agree with others here to use a raspberry pi.  Another
idea is that if you have an old laptop laying around that's not too too
old, use that.  if you're not a Linux guy, that might be easiest.

good luck and let us know what you end up with.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] My fix for IO::Socket::SSL error with LMS installed on QNAP ARM NAS (219P+)

2018-09-04 Thread dhallag


dhallag wrote: 
> Trust me when I say I hear you guys...

holy crap...  so on my NAS, QNAP updating the media entertainment
software and immediately after the update, all my SSL apps went down. 
because this took me the better part of a couple of weeks to figure out,
I was dreading having to go through these steps and reinstall SSL
because I really know nothing about Linux.  So all I did was blindly
follow my instructions, and to my unbelievable surprise...  everything
worked...

what a sigh of relief.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Radio vs. Tunein Radio under 'My Apps' ?? ......................................

2018-09-04 Thread Cut-Throat


slartibartfast wrote: 
> This might help.
> https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?101718-TuneIn-and-LMS-7-8-0-setup
> 
> Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

Yup !! - That fixed it right up!  Thanks much for all your help!



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Radio vs. Tunein Radio under 'My Apps' ?? ......................................

2018-09-04 Thread slartibartfast


Cut-Throat wrote: 
> Yes, I can see my favorites just fine MSB.com ... And I can see them
> just fine in LMS under Tunein Radio App I just don't see 'My
> Presets' under 'Radio' and really do not understand what 'Radio' is...?This 
> might help.
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?101718-TuneIn-and-LMS-7-8-0-setup

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Radio vs. Tunein Radio under 'My Apps' ?? ......................................

2018-09-04 Thread slartibartfast


Cut-Throat wrote: 
> Yes, I can see my favorites just fine MSB.com ... And I can see them
> just fine in LMS under Tunein Radio App I just don't see 'My
> Presets' under 'Radio' and really do not understand what 'Radio' is...?Radio 
> is based on Tunein and existed long before the Tunein app for LMS.
I would have thought that the favourites you see in MSB should also
appear in My Presets. If they don't then something is wrong. 

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Radio vs. Tunein Radio under 'My Apps' ?? ......................................

2018-09-04 Thread Cut-Throat


slartibartfast wrote: 
> If you log in to mysqueezebox.com and click on Remote Control can you
> see your Tunein favourites there?
> 
> Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

Yes, I can see my favorites just fine MSB.com ... And I can see them
just fine in LMS under Tunein Radio App I just don't see 'My
Presets' under 'Radio' and really do not understand what 'Radio' is...?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Adding the BBCiPlayer app to LMS

2018-09-04 Thread bpa


mar...@gregorie.org wrote: 
> Anyway, I just did a dnf search for packages with 'squeeze' or 'lms' in
> the name and only found two relevant ones:
> 
> - squeezelite, described as "Headless music player for streaming 
> from Logitech Media Server" 
> 
> - nuvola-app-logitech-media-server described as "Integration of
> Logitech Media Server into your Linux desktop via Nuvola Player"
> 
> so neither look like anything I want. 
They are both software players - so they are not relevant to installing
LMS.


> Do you have a LMS .repo file for dnf (or yum)? If so, I'd appreciate a
> copy. 
> 
> If you have one, I'll install and use it because this will automate
> updates. Otherwise I'll just grab a suitable RPM file from your site
> and unpack/install it manually with the 'rpm -U ...' command.
> 
> FWIW .repo files seem to be compatible with dnf, since they still live
> in /etc/yum/repos.d
I don't use Fedora - I just did a Goggle search
"site:forums.slimdevices.com fedora" to find all threads.

Most problems with "unsupported" Linux distros is usually associated
with a newer versions of Perl.
I didn't many other problems with Fedora installation and none
concerning Plugins.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Radio vs. Tunein Radio under 'My Apps' ?? ......................................

2018-09-04 Thread slartibartfast


Cut-Throat wrote: 
> Yes, my Tunein Radio account is on mysqueezebox.com as well...?If you log 
> in to mysqueezebox.com and click on Remote Control can you
see your Tunein favourites there?

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Prevent different versions of sox, flac etc being overwritten on update

2018-09-04 Thread paul-


@PasTim,

The updated binaries went in yesterday, should be in the latest 7.9.2
nightly.   Check them out.



piCorePlayer a small player for the Raspberry Pi in RAM. 
Homepage: https://www.picoreplayer.org

Please 'donate'
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Radio vs. Tunein Radio under 'My Apps' ?? ......................................

2018-09-04 Thread Cut-Throat


slartibartfast wrote: 
> I edited my post while you were replying. Have you entered your Tunein
> details on mysqueezebox.com?
> 
> Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

Yes, my Tunein Radio account is on mysqueezebox.com as well...?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Radio vs. Tunein Radio under 'My Apps' ?? ......................................

2018-09-04 Thread slartibartfast


Cut-Throat wrote: 
> Yes, I have a Tunein Account and use it all the time Listening right
> now. And I have favorites saved there as well.
> So, I am perplexed at exactly what Radio is.I think Radio would disappear if 
> mysqueezebox was switched off but the
Tunein app will still work.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Radio vs. Tunein Radio under 'My Apps' ?? ......................................

2018-09-04 Thread slartibartfast


Cut-Throat wrote: 
> Yes, I have a Tunein Account and use it all the time Listening right
> now. And I have favorites saved there as well.
> So, I am perplexed at exactly what Radio is.I edited my post while you were 
> replying. Have you entered your Tunein
details on mysqueezebox.com?

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Radio vs. Tunein Radio under 'My Apps' ?? ......................................

2018-09-04 Thread Cut-Throat


slartibartfast wrote: 
> Do you have a Tunein account?
> 
> Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

Yes, I have a Tunein Account and use it all the time Listening right
now. And I have favorites saved there as well.
So, I am perplexed at exactly what Radio is.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Radio vs. Tunein Radio under 'My Apps' ?? ......................................

2018-09-04 Thread slartibartfast


Cut-Throat wrote: 
> I get an error however when clicking on "My Presets"   "'Visit
> tunein.com - for free sign up 'Do you have a Tunein account?

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Radio vs. Tunein Radio under 'My Apps' ?? ......................................

2018-09-04 Thread Cut-Throat


slartibartfast wrote: 
> I think Radio and Tunein are exactly the same. I see the same radio
> station in "My Presets" as in Tunein favourites.
> 
> Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

I get an error however when clicking on "My Presets"   "'Visit
tunein.com - for free sign up '



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Adding the BBCiPlayer app to LMS

2018-09-04 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Tue, 2018-09-04 at 17:58 +, bpa wrote:
> 
> A case of misunderstanding - I use WebUI as a short hand for the
Web
> based UI rather than screen UI of player or an App .
> 
No problem. I did a few, fairly exhaustive, searches with locate using
variations on 'plugin' and probably found all the /plugin/i directories
in my system.
 
> No - these are in support of the Template module - CPAN is the Perl
> library and Template is the Perl module which does processes LMS web
> page templates.
> 
I know about CPAN, but am not really a Perl programmer - I've written a
Spamassassin plugin to pull addresses out of a Postgres database, but
that's about my limit with it.

I normally write C and Java, with awk, bash and php used when suitable.
 
> > This is a recent  thread on installing Fedora
> 
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?108945-Logitech-Media-Server-on-Fedora-27
> 
> Do you do it this way ?
> 
Not exactly. I'm a bit surprised to see yum and fc27 in the same
command: Fedora replaced yum by dnf about the time it got the ability
to upgrade to the next release in situ - that was around fc20, so about
four years ago. I've been using dnf, yum's replacement, since then. Yum
is still available, but deprecated in Fedora, so maybe that example was
from a Centos or RHEL installation. 

Anyway, I just did a dnf search for packages with 'squeeze' or 'lms' in
the name and only found two relevant ones:

- squeezelite, described as "Headless music player for streaming 
  from Logitech Media Server" 

- nuvola-app-logitech-media-server described as "Integration of
  Logitech Media Server into your Linux desktop via Nuvola Player"

so neither look like anything I want. 

I've not heard of Nuvola Player, but there are a heap of packages for
it in the Fedora repository and the one I quoted is an add-on to the
base Nuvola Player package. Nuvola is described as a 'semi-sandboxed'
(whatever that means) web browser plugin thats capable of working with
a shedload of third party apps (presumably Android or Windows apps),
all the way from 8-track and Sirius XM via Deezer to Spotify, so
probably installing it would drag in more baggage than I want.

Do you have a LMS .repo file for dnf (or yum)? If so, I'd appreciate a
copy. 

If you have one, I'll install and use it because this will automate
updates. Otherwise I'll just grab a suitable RPM file from your site
and unpack/install it manually with the 'rpm -U ...' command.

FWIW .repo files seem to be compatible with dnf, since they still live
in /etc/yum/repos.d
 

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Radio vs. Tunein Radio under 'My Apps' ?? ......................................

2018-09-04 Thread slartibartfast


Cut-Throat wrote: 
> I thought I'd ask this question after looking at it for years.
> 
> 
> On my 'Home' Screen in LMS I have 'My Music', then 'Radio', then 'My
> Apps'.
> 
> I am not sure what exactly 'Radio' is.  If I expand on 'Radio' and click
> on 'My Presets', I get the following message 'Visit tunein.com - for
> free sign up '
> 
> And of course, I have been signed up for Tunein quite some time and use
> it daily under 'My Apps'.
> 
> So can someone straighten me out on what exactly 'Radio' is and what it
> is looking at for 'My Presets'?
> 
> Thank You!I think Radio and Tunein are exactly the same. I see the same radio
station in "My Presets" as in Tunein favourites.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Adding the BBCiPlayer app to LMS

2018-09-04 Thread Martin Gregorie


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[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Radio vs. Tunein Radio under 'My Apps' ?? ......................................

2018-09-04 Thread Cut-Throat


I thought I'd ask this question after looking at it for years.


On my 'Home' Screen in LMS I have 'My Music', then 'Radio', then 'My
Apps'.

I am not sure what exactly 'Radio' is.  If I expand on 'Radio' and click
on 'My Presets', I get the following message 'Visit tunein.com - for
free sign up '

And of course, I have been signed up for Tunein quite some time and use
it daily under 'My Apps'.

So can someone straighten me out on what exactly 'Radio' is and what it
is looking at for 'My Presets'?

Thank You!



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Adding the BBCiPlayer app to LMS

2018-09-04 Thread bpa


mar...@gregorie.org wrote: 
> On Mon, 2018-09-03 at 21:22 +, bpa wrote:
> > 
> > Can you check the plugin directoires.
> > The directories LMS uses for plugins are listed in WebUI
> >
> Not on this install  -in fact 'locate' can't find any file or directory
> with a name containing 'WebUI' anywhere the filing system. 
> 
A case of misunderstanding - I use WebUI as a short hand for the Web
based UI rather than screen UI of player or an App .

> There is a /usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Plugins directory but its empty
> [color=blue]
> 
I think that is the old "manual" install directory for 3rd party Plugins
- not used anymore by "normal" users.

> Do you mean /usr/share/squeezeboxserver/CPAN/Template/Plugin ? 
> It contains:
> Assert.pm  Date.pm  File.pm   Image.pmProcedural.pm URL.pm
> Autoformat.pm  DBI.pm   Filter.pm Iterator.pm Scalar.pm View.pm
> CGI.pm Directory.pm Format.pm Math.pm String.pm Wrap.pm
> Datafile.pmDumper.pmHTML.pm   Pod.pm  Table.pm  XML
> 
> and XML contains DOM.pm  RSS.pm  Simple.pm  Style.pm  XPath.pm
> 
> FWIW this will have almost certainly been installed from an RPM.
> 
No - these are in support of the Template module - CPAN is the Perl
library and Template is the Perl module which does processes LMS web
page templates.

> 
> Obviously something has gone badly wrong, so here's my next move:
> - since this LMS install does everything I want except running the 
> 3rd party plugin that should (allegedly) let me access Radio 4s
> catch-up collection of programs broadcast in the last week
> I'll leave this copy of LMS as it is
> 
> - meanwhile, I have another music collection that I need to catalogue
> without affecting my current artist/Album/track listings. So, I'll
> do a clean LMS install of a more recent 7.9.x RPM build on another
> machine (Lenovo R61i also running Fedora 28 x-64) to use for the
> cataloguing task and see what it can do when it comes to plugins.
> 
Sounds like a pragmatic plan.  
This is a recent  thread on installing Fedora
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?108945-Logitech-Media-Server-on-Fedora-27

Do you do it this way ?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Adding the BBCiPlayer app to LMS

2018-09-04 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Mon, 2018-09-03 at 21:22 +, bpa wrote:
> 
> Can you check the plugin directoires.
> The directories LMS uses for plugins are listed in WebUI
>
Not on this install  -in fact 'locate' can't find any file or directory
with a name containing 'WebUI' anywhere the filing system. 

There is a /usr/share/squeezeboxserver/Plugins directory but its empty

> Setting/Information at the bottom "Plugin Folder" - there will be a
> few path separated by a "," - one of the paths should be in a Cache
> directory.
>
No 'Plugin Folder' either.

> What's in the plugins directory that is in the main LMS code
> path  (i.e.
> the one with all the .pm files) ? Is the plugin directory
> permissions/privileges same as other LMS directories ?
> 
Do you mean /usr/share/squeezeboxserver/CPAN/Template/Plugin ? 
It contains:
Assert.pm  Date.pm  File.pm   Image.pmProcedural.pm URL.pm
Autoformat.pm  DBI.pm   Filter.pm Iterator.pm Scalar.pm View.pm
CGI.pm Directory.pm Format.pm Math.pm String.pm Wrap.pm
Datafile.pmDumper.pmHTML.pm   Pod.pm  Table.pm  XML

and XML contains DOM.pm  RSS.pm  Simple.pm  Style.pm  XPath.pm

FWIW this will have almost certainly been installed from an RPM.

Obviously something has gone badly wrong, so here's my next move:
- since this LMS install does everything I want except running the 
  3rd party plugin that should (allegedly) let me access Radio 4s
  catch-up collection of programs broadcast in the last week
  I'll leave this copy of LMS as it is

- meanwhile, I have another music collection that I need to catalogue
  without affecting my current artist/Album/track listings. So, I'll
  do a clean LMS install of a more recent 7.9.x RPM build on another
  machine (Lenovo R61i also running Fedora 28 x-64) to use for the
  cataloguing task and see what it can do when it comes to plugins.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Can't locate auto/Linux/MemInfo/autosplit.ix

2018-09-04 Thread dolodobendan


If (only if) it's an easy fix, maybe this one, too?

https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver/issues/200

Please?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Can't locate auto/Linux/MemInfo/autosplit.ix

2018-09-04 Thread dolodobendan


mherger wrote: 
> Argh... dependencies suck. I'll fix that ASAP.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

:D Thank you!



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Can't locate auto/Linux/MemInfo/autosplit.ix

2018-09-04 Thread Michael Herger

Argh... dependencies suck. I'll fix that ASAP.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Can't locate auto/Linux/MemInfo/autosplit.ix

2018-09-04 Thread dolodobendan


bpa wrote: 
> It may be coincidence but Michael has made some changes to database
> optimization very recently see
> https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?109093-Database-optimization-fails

That's why I asked. ;)



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Can't locate auto/Linux/MemInfo/autosplit.ix

2018-09-04 Thread bpa


It may be coincidence but Michael has made some changes to database
optimization very recently see
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?109093-Database-optimization-fails



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