Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] UPnP/DLNA Media Interface vs UPnP Media Bridge plugins (Newbie...be gentle!)
RoyalScam wrote: > See I know nothing about Squeezebox. Is there an advantage or > disadvantage to using my Onkyo as a Squeezebox? What does that even > mean? LMS is a music center system. It helps you manage your music library and search/play tracks, create playlists, access streaming services and so on. It has clients to control it from a web browser but also from your smartphone. Normally, players should be specialized devices named "squeezeboxes". They are not produced anymore by Logitech, but some clones can be created using a raspberry Pi and some weirdos like me have made "bridges" that allow airplay/chromecast/upnp players to fake a real squeezebox and integrate them into the LMS "ecosystem". One important feature of LMS is to be able to play synchronized music on multiple players, but that does *not* work with upnp or chromecast. Now, if you have only one UPnP device, don't know about LMS and just want to organize your library, there are other solutions that are UPnP aware and which might be easier to use (I don't want to say better because I don't want to start a useless heated debate and I don't have a strong opinion anyway). Using my bridge is fine, but UPnP players can be temperamental and can be frustrating to tweak to work well under LMS. Now, here you have a really good community of people that will help you. LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115709 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Fedora 31+ Support
Ugh!! Well, I guess I know what I'm doing this weekend! When do you expect support for v5.34 and where can I find which versions of perl are supported? I usually don't plan these things. But when I see there's a need by more than a hand full of users and I have time, I give it a try... Last night I played with the idea of a Docker image to simplify this process without the need to install a full Fedora VM. But I'm not there yet. Mostly due to the second of above conditions. ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] UPnP/DLNA Media Interface vs UPnP Media Bridge plugins (Newbie...be gentle!)
See…I know nothing about Squeezebox. Is there an advantage or disadvantage to using my Onkyo as a Squeezebox? What does that even mean? Think about why you installed LMS in the first place. What's the reason for it? ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] UPnP/DLNA Media Interface vs UPnP Media Bridge plugins (Newbie...be gentle!)
philippe_44 wrote: > If you want to use your player as if it is a regular squeezebox, you > need my bridge. > > If you want to use the UI of your player to browse the LMS library, you > need Andys plugin. See I know nothing about Squeezebox. Is there an advantage or disadvantage to using my Onkyo as a Squeezebox? What does that even mean? RoyalScam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=72440 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115709 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] UPnP/DLNA Media Interface vs UPnP Media Bridge plugins (Newbie...be gentle!)
If you want to use your player as if it is a regular squeezebox, you need my bridge. If you want to use the UI of your player to browse the LMS library, you need Andys plugin. LMS 8.2 on Odroid-C4 - *SqueezeAMP!*, 5xRadio, 5xBoom, 2xDuet, 1xTouch, 1xSB3. Sonos PLAY:3, PLAY:5, Marantz NR1603, Foobar2000, ShairPortW, 2xChromecast Audio, Chromecast v1 and v2, Squeezelite on Pi, Yamaha WX-010, AppleTV 4, Airport Express, GGMM E5, RivaArena 1 & 3 philippe_44's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115709 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Anyone running LMS on Windows 11?
mherger wrote: > I was interested to know whether LMS was running reliably on Windows 11? > > What would the system information in Settings/Information report? Hi Michael The latest update to 8.3 correctly identifies win11 Any ideas re my problem with Prevent System Standby? plasticator2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115704 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] UPnP/DLNA Media Interface vs UPnP Media Bridge plugins (Newbie...be gentle!)
You need the media bridge plugin - the 'bridge' plugins allow you to play music to external renderers pjc8151's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=69245 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115709 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] QLogitechMediaServer for Qnap with QTS 4.2 or higher and x86_64/I686/X86 support !
rienm wrote: > Please can someone help me. In what directory should I find > ./QlogitechMediaServer.sh? With some commands I remember from Unix I > came within the / , /usr, /var etc. Till now I did not find the > directory Well, I found out and I am in the /gpkg/LogitechMediaServer directory, using the vi command Igot the logging, there seems to be an error, see screen dump 36706 +---+ |Filename: 9CE5ED28-EF97-48DC-9EDE-2B868030161B.jpeg| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=36706| +---+ rienm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58184 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108702 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Fedora 31+ Support
mherger wrote: > > This is perl 5, version 34, subversion 0 (v5.34.0) built for > x86_64-linux-thread-multi > > We don't have support for Perl 5.34 yet. For the time being you'd have > to build the binaries yourself. See > https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver-vendor/tree/public/8.3/CPAN Ugh!! Well, I guess I know what I'm doing this weekend! When do you expect support for v5.34 and where can I find which versions of perl are supported? ggalt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4941 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113167 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Fedora 31+ Support
This is perl 5, version 34, subversion 0 (v5.34.0) built for x86_64-linux-thread-multi We don't have support for Perl 5.34 yet. For the time being you'd have to build the binaries yourself. See https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver-vendor/tree/public/8.3/CPAN ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] UPnP/DLNA Media Interface vs UPnP Media Bridge plugins (Newbie...be gentle!)
Hello, all. I'll cut to the point. I've got a Mac filled with FLAC files. I've got an Onkyo TX-8160 stereo network receiver. I'd like to get the two wirelessly speaking to each other via DLNA (since my wireless choice on that receiver is either DLNA or Airplay). I've fiddled around with Universal Media Server and Plex, so this isn't -totally- foreign to me. Ideally, I'd like to access my Mac/FLAC library remotely via iPeng (or similar) on my iPad and feed the music to the Onkyo. Where I'm confused is to which plugin I'd need to enable to accomplish this: Andy's UPnP/DLNA Media _Interface_ or Phillipe's UPnP/DLNA Media _Bridge_. Yes, I've searched and read a bunch of explanations...still confused as to which and why, or if either, advantages/disadvantages. As they say on Reddit: explain like I'm five. :o RoyalScam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=72440 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115709 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Fedora 31+ Support
mherger wrote: > > I'm running Fedora 35 and 8.2.0 and have the same issue. I get 2 > > errors: > > > > Image::Scale object version 0.14 does not match bootstrap > > parameter 0.08 at /usr/lib64/perl5/DynaLoader.pm line 210. > > Compilation failed in require at (eval 85) line 1. > > BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at (eval 85) line 1. > > Did you upgrade Fedora to this system? What Perl version is this? What > if you fully uninstalled LMS, making sure none of its libraries was left > > behind, and re-installed again? $ perl -v gives me: Code: This is perl 5, version 34, subversion 0 (v5.34.0) built for x86_64-linux-thread-multi Copyright 1987-2021, Larry Wall I had been running 8.0.0 on Fedora 33 (and have been running on Linux -- mostly Fedora -- since before Slim Devices was bought by Logitech) with no issues and did an upgrade straight to Fedora 35. The problems started right after the upgrade to F35. I've uninstalled 8.2 and its dependencies and tried both 8.1.1 and 8.0.0, both without success. FYI, these are all noarch.rpm files from here: https://downloads.slimdevices.com/ George ggalt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4941 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113167 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Fedora 31+ Support
I'm running Fedora 35 and 8.2.0 and have the same issue. I get 2 errors: Image::Scale object version 0.14 does not match bootstrap parameter 0.08 at /usr/lib64/perl5/DynaLoader.pm line 210. Compilation failed in require at (eval 85) line 1. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at (eval 85) line 1. Did you upgrade Fedora to this system? What Perl version is this? What if you fully uninstalled LMS, making sure none of its libraries was left behind, and re-installed again? ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS not automatically starting on Mac boot
I noticed something, perhaps it's helpful to those working on the code? I'm on macOS Big Sur and left the setting in LMS Pref Pane on Automatically Start Server at Login (previously I always used When System Boots, but have been trying various things suggested here since that stopped working.) What I noticed is that when I went into System Preferences, and clicked Logitech Media Server, without doing anything else the Server showed Starting. I did not need to click the Start Server button! So I closed System Preferences, restarted, and reproduced the same thing again. Next, I left the System Preferences open, left the LMS Pane open so I could see the Stop Server button, and did a restart. Since my Mac is set to log in automatically and reopens all the windows from previous session, the LMS did in fact start automatically. Obviously this is not ideal, but it would seem that "touching" or opening the LMS pref pane is crucial to having the server start automatically. Hope this is helpful to someone working on a fix. pricebrad's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2326 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112414 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Fedora 31+ Support
udovdh wrote: > I see the same error in the nightlies I installed (8.2x and 8.3.x). > Local issue or LMS? I'm running Fedora 35 and 8.2.0 and have the same issue. I get 2 errors: Image::Scale object version 0.14 does not match bootstrap parameter 0.08 at /usr/lib64/perl5/DynaLoader.pm line 210. Compilation failed in require at (eval 85) line 1. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at (eval 85) line 1. and Parser.pm and Expat.pm versions don't match at /usr/share/squeezeboxserver/CPAN/XML/Parser.pm line 20. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/share/squeezeboxserver/CPAN/XML/Parser.pm line 22. Compilation failed in require at (eval 102) line 1. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at (eval 102) line 1. Fedora doesn't seem to provide a package that contains Image::Scale (only Image::Size), so I've installed it via CPAN. I've got v0.14 for Image::Scale and v2.46 for XML::Parser. Any help would be greatly appreciated. George ggalt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4941 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113167 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Some Basic advice on which branch of LMS to be on
Thank you Paul. That's great. Stable now running The Groundsman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=70305 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115705 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Anyone running LMS on Windows 11?
The problem I have encountered concerns the Prevent System Standby plugin which no longer functions. It's always been fine before on win I created a ticket to follow up with this, as I've seen it mentioned before: https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver/issues/746 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Anyone running LMS on Windows 11?
Today after loading the latest nightly, it displays Win 11. Impressive attention to detail, Michael! Believe it or not: it was corporate tech support which came to me wondering whether we supported Windows 11. Someone must have called them asking, and they even cared to get the information from me :D! ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Anyone running LMS on Windows 11?
Yesterday mine displayed the same as reported by Cloud Atlas. Today after loading the latest nightly, it displays Win 11. Impressive attention to detail, Michael! TomAmes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=27792 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115704 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Anyone running LMS on Windows 11?
CloudAtlas wrote: > Yes, I've had LMS on my Windows 11 PC for some months now with no > problems. > > It does however say this in Settings/Information > > Operating system: Windows 10 - EN - cp1252 Same for me - when I upgraded to Win 11 a few months ago, I noticed no changes whatsoever in LMS performance. And, I'm not going to mess with it! LMS 8.2.1 - 1628023316 Win10 Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads Machines / devices are in France, in two locations. a) Livebox 4 Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop 3 x Touch - 1 wireless, 2 LAN. (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SB Radios [wireless] (8.0.1-r16855) 2 x SqueezeAmps b) Freebox External SSD, WiFi Laptop 1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754) 2 x SB Radios, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676) agbagb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7034 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115704 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Anyone running LMS on Windows 11?
mherger wrote: > I was interested to know whether LMS was running reliably on Windows 11? > > What would the system information in Settings/Information report? Hi Michael, I have been running LMS on win 11 for a couple of months. It's an ASUS low-power mini desktop PC and works flawlessly with just one exception. I run version: 8.3.0 - 1641468587 @ Thu Jan 6 12:46:53 WEST 2022 The info still says: Operating system: Windows 10 - EN - cp1252 Platform Architecture: 8664 The problem I have encountered concerns the Prevent System Standby plugin which no longer functions. It's always been fine before on win 10 and RPi. Here is the logging with the PC power set to sleep after 5 minutes, whilst playing music: [22-01-07 12:16:18.0093] Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::_playersBusy (159) Player Squeezebox is busy... [22-01-07 12:16:18.0095] Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::checkClientActivity (109) Resetting idle counter.20 minutes left in allowed idle period. [22-01-07 12:16:18.0097] Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::checkClientActivity (126) Preventing System Standby... [22-01-07 12:17:18.0075] Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::_playersBusy (159) Player Squeezebox is busy... [22-01-07 12:17:18.0078] Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::checkClientActivity (109) Resetting idle counter.20 minutes left in allowed idle period. [22-01-07 12:17:18.0079] Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::checkClientActivity (126) Preventing System Standby... [22-01-07 12:18:18.0274] Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::_playersBusy (159) Player Squeezebox is busy... [22-01-07 12:18:18.0275] Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::checkClientActivity (109) Resetting idle counter.20 minutes left in allowed idle period. [22-01-07 12:18:18.0276] Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::checkClientActivity (126) Preventing System Standby... [22-01-07 12:19:18.0146] Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::_playersBusy (159) Player Squeezebox is busy... [22-01-07 12:19:18.0149] Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::checkClientActivity (109) Resetting idle counter.20 minutes left in allowed idle period. [22-01-07 12:19:18.0150] Slim::Plugin::PreventStandby::Plugin::checkClientActivity (126) Preventing System Standby... at which point the PC goes to sleep. The PC doesn't exhibit any aberrant sleep/wake behaviour the way that earlier windows versions did. I am at a loss to figure out what is happening. I can work around it with an android app to close down and wake the PC remotely but it's more clunky. Help appreciated plasticator2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31261 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115704 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Anyone running LMS on Windows 11?
Thanks Michael, just updated and os info now correct: Operating system: Windows 11 - EN - cp1252 Nice, thanks! ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Anyone running LMS on Windows 11?
mherger wrote: > > Yes, I've had LMS on my Windows 11 PC for some months now with no > > problems. > > Excellent! I just failed to update my Windows 10 VM... > > > It does however say this in Settings/Information > > > > Operating system: Windows 10 - EN - cp1252 > > That's what I expected, unfortunately. I committed a small change trying > > to identify Windows 11 correctly. But it's 8.3 only so far... but if you > > wanted to give it a try, binaries should be available shortly. Thanks Michael, just updated and os info now correct: Operating system: Windows 11 - EN - cp1252 CloudAtlas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65221 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115704 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] QLogitechMediaServer for Qnap with QTS 4.2 or higher and x86_64/I686/X86 support !
rienm wrote: > I am in my qnap nas as admin, within the root file; when I give a > command as mentioned at fi page 84, fi ./QlogitechMediaServer.sh status > I get the message -sh /QlogitechMediaServer.sh No such file or > directory > > I dont understand . Please can someone help me. In what directory should I find ./QlogitechMediaServer.sh? With some commands I remember from Unix I came within the / , /usr, /var etc. Till now I did not find the directory rienm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58184 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108702 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Some Basic advice on which branch of LMS to be on
1. In PiCore I see the Select Branch options of Release; Stable and Development. Is it as simple as selecting the branch and then "update LMS"? Yes 2. I assume Release is 8.2.0, Stable is 8.2.1 Development 8.3.0 Yes 3. Can I move freely between these branches or is there no going back without a new install from scratch. eg. If I went to Stable I would be prevented from returning to Release, or if I went for the development branch no return to stable or release. At the moment ... Yes you can move between them - but that is not guaranteed for the future 4. Given my low level of knowledge ( pretty much non existent on Linux) am I just asking for trouble in moving at all do you think. No - but Stable is good unless there are specific new features that you are expecting to see in Development. Paul Webster author of \"now playing\" plugins covering radio france (fip etc), planetradio (bauer - kiss, absolute, scala, jazzfm etc), kcrw, abc australia and cbc/radio-canada and, via the extra \"radio now playing\" plugin lots more - see https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?115201-announce-radio-now-playing-plugin Paul Webster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=105 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115705 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Some Basic advice on which branch of LMS to be on
Some very basic things I hope some patient person will clear up for me. I used to run LMS on Windows and was on the nightly branch, mainly out of curiosity so would be quite comfortable updating LMS to the latest version very frequently. It did go wrong a few times but I was able to sort it out even if it meant starting everything from scratch as a last resort. I'm now on Picore with the default set up and it's working great - Thank you. I've had a couple of plugin updates but I might be brave enough to be a bit more adventurous. Current info Logitech Media Server Version: 8.2.0 - 1627922070 @ Tue Aug 3 11:43:18 CEST 2021 Hostname: pCP Server IP Address: 192.168.1.194 Server HTTP Port Number: 9000 Operating system: piCore - EN - utf8 Platform Architecture: armv7l-linux Perl Version: 5.32.1 - arm-linux-gnueabihf-thread-multi-64int Audio::Scan: 1.05 IO::Socket::SSL: 2.071 Database Version: DBD::SQLite 1.58 (sqlite 3.22.0) Total Players Recognized: 4 So my concerns are about switching branches. 1. In PiCore I see the Select Branch options of Release; Stable and Development. Is it as simple as selecting the branch and then "update LMS"? 2. I assume Release is 8.2.0, Stable is 8.2.1 Development 8.3.0 3. Can I move freely between these branches or is there no going back without a new install from scratch. eg. If I went to Stable I would be prevented from returning to Release, or if I went for the development branch no return to stable or release. 4. Given my low level of knowledge ( pretty much non existent on Linux) am I just asking for trouble in moving at all do you think. The Groundsman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=70305 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115705 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter