Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Stream LMS music to Ipeng mobile phone when outside wifi coverage?
Jeff07971 wrote: > Are you sure you CAN'T use a VPN ?... In my normal use case, it's not viable, but that's not to say at other times it couldn't be used. *Player: *1 x Transporter w/Trans-knob, 2 x Touch (Active, 3 x Spares), 4 x Boom (Active, 9 x Spares) *Server: *1 x Win Server (ESXi 6.x) w/LMS, 1 x HP 24" Touch Screen PC w/LMS & SqueezePlay *Control: *4 x w/iPeng, 1 x Samsung Note 4, 3ea x Fire 7", 8 tablets, 1 x 10" all w/SqueezeCtrl & Player (Angry Goat) *Audio: *Mark Levinson 23.5 Amp, 380s Pre, 390s CD, B&W 801 II, Acoustic Energy AE-2 signature, SOTA Sapphire table Computer geek/tech hoarder(!), and DAMN I love the LMS/Squeeze infrastructure! ---- markm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65015 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109877 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Stream LMS music to Ipeng mobile phone when outside wifi coverage?
d6jg wrote: > What geek is going to pay for a Cloud based solution when a VPN costs > jack? Probably limited, but I unfortunately fit into this category as I can't use a VPN. *Player: *1 x Transporter w/Trans-knob, 2 x Touch (Active, 3 x Spares), 4 x Boom (Active, 9 x Spares) *Server: *1 x Win Server (ESXi 6.x) w/LMS, 1 x HP 24" Touch Screen PC w/LMS & SqueezePlay *Control: *4 x w/iPeng, 1 x Samsung Note 4, 3ea x Fire 7", 8 tablets, 1 x 10" all w/SqueezeCtrl & Player (Angry Goat) *Audio: *Mark Levinson 23.5 Amp, 380s Pre, 390s CD, B&W 801 II, Acoustic Energy AE-2 signature, SOTA Sapphire table Computer geek/tech hoarder(!), and DAMN I love the LMS/Squeeze infrastructure! ---- markm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65015 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109877 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Stream LMS music to Ipeng mobile phone when outside wifi coverage?
mherger wrote: > Look, this is pretty simple: you want somebody to do work for you. If > you want to succeed, then there are a few options. > > - find some funds and hire people to do it > - get your hands dirty, do your homework: go create that gofundme > project. See whether you can find other users who'd be willing to > support such development. Find developers who are willing to help you > out. > > But please stop pushing people. If your idea isn't convincing enough, > then you won't win them over by insulting them, claiming how this should > > not be too hard to do etc. > > -- > > Michael Michael & others - I apologize if I've offended anyone with this request, the thread in general, or my 'pushiness'. Unfortunately, not all of us are blessed with the industry knowledge & specialized skill set required to pull off a fraction of what has already been built, much less something of this magnitude. As I've tried to humbly state - I'm more of an assembler than a builder. Given the building blocks, and time, I _might_ be able to achieve the end goal...or not. *Player: *1 x Transporter w/Trans-knob, 2 x Touch (Active, 3 x Spares), 4 x Boom (Active, 9 x Spares) *Server: *1 x Win Server (ESXi 6.x) w/LMS, 1 x HP 24" Touch Screen PC w/LMS & SqueezePlay *Control: *4 x w/iPeng, 1 x Samsung Note 4, 3ea x Fire 7", 8 tablets, 1 x 10" all w/SqueezeCtrl & Player (Angry Goat) *Audio: *Mark Levinson 23.5 Amp, 380s Pre, 390s CD, B&W 801 II, Acoustic Energy AE-2 signature, SOTA Sapphire table Computer geek/tech hoarder(!), and DAMN I love the LMS/Squeeze infrastructure! markm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65015 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109877 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Stream LMS music to Ipeng mobile phone when outside wifi coverage?
pippin wrote: > > So since this is a full-blown cloud service: how much would you be > willing to pay as a monthly subscription? > We've had this topic in the past - and I did consider it a few times as > a business model before. > The problem at hand is that I don't like dying business models, in the > sense that long term the number of potential users shrinks, not grows. > Let's all face the truth: people are moving towards streaming instead of > owning music. You and me are probably different but the number of people > doing this is not growing. It's more complicated, you have to organize > your own files and you have to get hold of the files in the first > place. > Spotify et al on the other hand have a readily indexed database with > millions and millions of songs and can offer you easy access at home as > well as mobile. > > So the question really is not as much one of development but one of "how > many are people willing to pay on a subscription basis". And how many of > those people are out there? NOTE: I reference SubSonic below alot because it is the piece of software that I most recently began playing with when I started this thread. Feel free to substitute ANY software capable of making your personal music available to a 'web/app player'. Again, respectfully, I never said it HAD to be a cloud service, or at least start out as one. SubSonic doesn't as it relies on you/it opening a FW port. Initially it could start out as an 'open port' on our firewall - after all, SubSonic or a VPN needs one anyway. External IP existence would be through any one of the many domain to IP services out on the Internet. If it were a cloud service, to answer the question of a subscription fee directly - $5-10/mo, but for the higher level there would probably need to be some other value added benefit for most people. As far as gauging interest & funding potential, I suggested setting up a 'gofundme' type account. Until it hits a certain level, no work need be done. Another funding source is in-app ads which is what SubSonic does, unless you're a 'premium' member. I'm sure there are others, such as an in-app purchase to enable this feature But maybe it's not worth the effort - fine. So now I'll ask the question that I can't answer and into territory that I only have a cursory knowledge of at best- Personally, my thought was more along the lines of an app that runs within our home network that acts as an LMS proxy, but provides the needed security that LMS lacks. It would provide a feed over https to a stripped down 'player only' app on the phone - since there is no reason to control all of LMS. At least initially, 'user' security could be through some sort of certificate that could be imported into the app, distributed via email. Could the LMS proxy server app run in some kind of 'sandbox' to prevent other potential of hackery? Is there any existing open source software, that's fairly well tested, that could be used to piece something like this together 75% of the way? Finally on the subject, since the major players in this space believe this issue to be a dead/silly idea/not worth the effort, I'll drop it, and simply try to find a product like SubSonic, et. al., but if possible with an internet proxy. 2 additional things- Pippin, is there any chance you'd consider adding an SSH option to your app in particular, similar to how the old SoftSqueeze emulator did? In my use case, a VPN will not work due to traffic restrictions, as well as internet radio services, etc. - but SSH is allowed, or can be granted. Again, this could be provided in a special 'player only' product that costs extra that I would willingly pay. Also, to all - I know there is already a plugin for LMS to talk to SubSonic and feed it - I assume it's acting like a SubSonic player. Does anyone know if there something to do this in the opposite direction? i.e. something like a SubSonic plugin that can 'pull' from LMS (?), or is there some other method that could achieve this I've missed? The idea would be to isolate the 2 products for security, firewalled to only allow specific traffic between the to 'systems' *Player: *1 x Transporter w/Trans-knob, 2 x Touch (Active, 3 x Spares), 4 x Boom (Active, 9 x Spares) *Server: *1 x Win Server (ESXi 6.x) w/LMS, 1 x HP 24" Touch Screen PC w/LMS & SqueezePlay *Control: *4 x w/iPeng, 1 x Samsung Note 4, 3ea x Fire 7", 8 tablets, 1 x 10" all w/SqueezeCtrl & Player (Angry Goat) *Audio: *Mark Levinson 23.5 Amp, 380s Pre, 390s CD, B&W 801 II, Acoustic Energy AE-2 signature, SOTA Sapphire table Computer geek/tech hoarder(!), and DAMN I love the LMS/Squeeze infrastructure!
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Stream LMS music to Ipeng mobile phone when outside wifi coverage?
mherger wrote: > > Yes, I know it's the only way RIGHT NOW, but let's not pretend a full > > blown VPN is the only way it can be done. > > It's not the only one, but the most reasonable one. > > When it comes to security there's one very important rule: don't do it > yourself. You WILL fail. Just last week another breach in Facebook was > communicated. And that's a multi-billion dollar company. > > > I'm not a 'developer', I'm barely a code tinkerer at this point, but > I > > do understand that this isn't necessarily an easy thing to do. > > > Lets think outside of the box on this- > > An ad vs premium model ala SubSonic might be a way to recoup costs > and > > provide future revenue. > > -OR- > > If you're initially opposed to this, how about a gofundme to gauge > > interest and to cover the initial costs, with people who donate > > receiving some kind of benefit depending on the level of donation? > > If you're not a developer, are you a in finance or marketing? Do you > have any idea how much that infrastructure would cost? How many users > would have to pay a monthly few dollars to cover for this cost? Who's > going to run and maintain it? > > -- > > Michael Respectfully, I think we are talking apples & oranges here - SubSonic and others, including other open source projects already exist. My posts are simply saying -'lets stop with the VPN ONLY talk, and let's figure out how to integrate these pieces of software'.- Posts discussing the lack of this ability in LMS exist in every conceivable venue on the web - I LOVE LMS, and I believe it is the BEST platform, but it's skipped over by people who want or REQUIRE remote streaming. If this situation doesn't change, people will eventually move away from LMS completely, and that would be a shame... Use whatever business model you want, if you want - that was not my primary point. I only brought it up to point out that there could be money to be made by having established products enhance their product by adapting this tech into their tech. There are a lot of smart, capable people within these forums - look at the excitement regarding the MaterialSkin & Squeeze-X projects. There has to be someone or group of people willing to make this happen, and I'm willing do donate money, time, or other assets to assist in whatever way I can to make it happen. *Player: *1 x Transporter w/Trans-knob, 2 x Touch (Active, 3 x Spares), 4 x Boom (Active, 9 x Spares) *Server: *1 x Win Server (ESXi 6.x) w/LMS, 1 x HP 24" Touch Screen PC w/LMS & SqueezePlay *Control: *4 x w/iPeng, 1 x Samsung Note 4, 3ea x Fire 7", 8 tablets, 1 x 10" all w/SqueezeCtrl & Player (Angry Goat) *Audio: *Mark Levinson 23.5 Amp, 380s Pre, 390s CD, B&W 801 II, Acoustic Energy AE-2 signature, SOTA Sapphire table Computer geek/tech hoarder(!), and DAMN I love the LMS/Squeeze infrastructure! markm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65015 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109877 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Stream LMS music to Ipeng mobile phone when outside wifi coverage?
I did my part by making this meme! 26255 +---+ |Filename: c'mon, you know you want to make external streaming possible.jpg| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=26255| +---+ *Player: *1 x Transporter w/Trans-knob, 2 x Touch (Active, 3 x Spares), 4 x Boom (Active, 9 x Spares) *Server: *1 x Win Server (ESXi 6.x) w/LMS, 1 x HP 24" Touch Screen PC w/LMS & SqueezePlay *Control: *4 x w/iPeng, 1 x Samsung Note 4, 3ea x Fire 7", 8 tablets, 1 x 10" all w/SqueezeCtrl & Player (Angry Goat) *Audio: *Mark Levinson 23.5 Amp, 380s Pre, 390s CD, B&W 801 II, Acoustic Energy AE-2 signature, SOTA Sapphire table Computer geek/tech hoarder(!), and DAMN I love the LMS/Squeeze infrastructure! ---- markm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65015 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109877 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Stream LMS music to Ipeng mobile phone when outside wifi coverage?
pippin wrote: > Sure. But besides Fritz!Box... most routers you'd buy yourself today > have VPN-functionality. OK, granted, some of the cheapo-devices ISPs > give away don't have it, but if you are really interested in such a > feature, it might be a worthwhile investment. > Besides that, NAS are also quite popular among Squeezebox users and a > lot of modern NAS (Synology, Qnap,...) also offer easy to configure > VPNs. > > So I think it's doable and compared to the risk (and complications) of > port forwarding, it's worth it. I hate to be the fart in church, but we all know what is REALLY needed. I tried to touch on this in my post of 12/06/2018 https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?109840-Secure-Remote-Streaming-to-Mobile-Player ...and got the usual VPN talk - just STOP Yes, I know it's the only way RIGHT NOW, but let's not pretend a full blown VPN is the only way it can be done. A TRUE STREAMING API INTERFACE INTEGRATED INTO THE LMS ECOSYSTEM IS WHAT'S SORELY NEEDED I'm not a 'developer', I'm barely a code tinkerer at this point, but I do understand that this isn't necessarily an easy thing to do. Pipin/Others, Is their an existing open source project (even if it does more than needed right now - strip it down later) that could be integrated fairly easily into LMS to either produce something like SubSonic, but with the multi-account sign-in & proxying capabilities of Tonido - which bypasses the need for pretty much any router changes so it's noob friendly. If a ground-up build is truly needed, make it exclusive to your iPeng app for now, then open it up later, or maybe team up with OrangeSqueeze/SqueezeCTRL/others developers in a joint project (if this isn't your area of expertise). Lets think outside of the box on this- An ad vs premium model ala SubSonic might be a way to recoup costs and provide future revenue. -OR- If you're initially opposed to this, how about a gofundme to gauge interest and to cover the initial costs, with people who donate receiving some kind of benefit depending on the level of donation? I'd certainly be willing to make a nice donation to achieve this goal, and bring LMS fully into the modern era. *Player: *1 x Transporter w/Trans-knob, 2 x Touch (Active, 3 x Spares), 4 x Boom (Active, 9 x Spares) *Server: *1 x Win Server (ESXi 6.x) w/LMS, 1 x HP 24" Touch Screen PC w/LMS & SqueezePlay *Control: *4 x w/iPeng, 1 x Samsung Note 4, 3ea x Fire 7", 8 tablets, 1 x 10" all w/SqueezeCtrl & Player (Angry Goat) *Audio: *Mark Levinson 23.5 Amp, 380s Pre, 390s CD, B&W 801 II, Acoustic Energy AE-2 signature, SOTA Sapphire table Computer geek/tech hoarder(!), and DAMN I love the LMS/Squeeze infrastructure! markm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65015 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109877 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Logitech Media Server 7.9.1 is out!
I agree! And since Michael won't say it, I will - the link at the bottom of this page is a good way to show appreciation! http://www.herger.net/slim/ *Player: *1 x Transporter w/Trans-knob, 2 x Touch (Active, 3 x Spares), 4 x Boom (Active, 9 x Spares) *Server: *1 x Win Server (ESXi 6.x) w/LMS, 1 x HP 24" Touch Screen PC w/LMS & SqueezePlay *Control: *4 x w/iPeng, 1 x Samsung Note 4, 3ea x Fire 7", 8 tablets, 1 x 10" all w/SqueezeCtrl & Player (Angry Goat) *Audio: *Mark Levinson 23.5 Amp, 380s Pre, 390s CD, B&W 801 II, Acoustic Energy AE-2 signature, SOTA Sapphire table Computer geek/tech hoarder(!), and DAMN I love the LMS/Squeeze infrastructure! ---- markm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65015 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108957 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Secure Remote Streaming to Mobile Player
d6jg wrote: > VPN is the only safe way to do this. > Decent router that incorporates a VPN server or build your own with a Pi > etc. A VPN is fine and all, but what I was looking to discover (or encourage the build of) is providing a safe way to use iPeng, OrangeSqueeze, etc. without opening any ports (VPN or otherwise) at my home, or other less tech savvy folk. *Player: *1 x Transporter w/Trans-knob, 2 x Touch (Active, 3 x Spares), 4 x Boom (Active, 9 x Spares) *Server: *1 x Win Server (ESXi 6.x) w/LMS, 1 x HP 24" Touch Screen PC w/LMS & SqueezePlay *Control: *4 x w/iPeng, 1 x Samsung Note 4, 3ea x Fire 7", 8 tablets, 1 x 10" all w/SqueezeCtrl & Player (Angry Goat) *Audio: *Mark Levinson 23.5 Amp, 380s Pre, 390s CD, B&W 801 II, Acoustic Energy AE-2 signature, SOTA Sapphire table Computer geek/tech hoarder(!), and DAMN I love the LMS/Squeeze infrastructure! ---- markm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65015 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109840 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Secure Remote Streaming to Mobile Player
DJanGo wrote: > I am using a full blown VPN connection because: > > Its not some special limited wtf product no more than a handful of hip > kids is using > I am pretty sure all my devices and the devices i do buy / use in the > future can handle it. > And if there is a security hole in the product - its fixable and it > would be fixed. So you use a VPN over a cellular connection to your phone to stream music in your car traveling down the road? *Player: *1 x Transporter w/Trans-knob, 2 x Touch (Active, 3 x Spares), 4 x Boom (Active, 9 x Spares) *Server: *1 x Win Server (ESXi 6.x) w/LMS, 1 x HP 24" Touch Screen PC w/LMS & SqueezePlay *Control: *4 x w/iPeng, 1 x Samsung Note 4, 3ea x Fire 7", 8 tablets, 1 x 10" all w/SqueezeCtrl & Player (Angry Goat) *Audio: *Mark Levinson 23.5 Amp, 380s Pre, 390s CD, B&W 801 II, Acoustic Energy AE-2 signature, SOTA Sapphire table Computer geek/tech hoarder(!), and DAMN I love the LMS/Squeeze infrastructure! ---- markm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65015 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109840 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Noob wanting to change old pc into LMS Dedicated server. Best solution?
Viragored wrote: > There seems to be a twilight zone between not enough battery to support > a boot, and none left at all. It's obviously hard to reproduce, but does > happen once in a while after the PC has been unplugged for some time. I guess that's sorta my point - just pop the battery out. The system will still work, but when there is a loss of power you'll be prompted for BIOS Defaults when the system comes back on (cold boot). NOTE: This is not when it's simply restarted (warm boot) from within the OS *Player: *1 x Transporter w/Trans-knob, 2 x Touch (Active, 3 x Spares), 4 x Boom (Active, 9 x Spares) *Server: *1 x Win Server (ESXi 6.x) w/LMS, 1 x HP 24" Touch Screen PC w/LMS & SqueezePlay *Control: *4 x w/iPeng, 1 x Samsung Note 4, 3ea x Fire 7", 8 tablets, 1 x 10" all w/SqueezeCtrl & Player (Angry Goat) *Audio: *Mark Levinson 23.5 Amp, 380s Pre, 390s CD, B&W 801 II, Acoustic Energy AE-2 signature, SOTA Sapphire table Computer geek/tech hoarder(!), and DAMN I love the LMS/Squeeze infrastructure! ---- markm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65015 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109816 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Noob wanting to change old pc into LMS Dedicated server. Best solution?
DJanGo wrote: > > :cool: good old BIOS but [U]EFI and some strange Hardware like a > Thinkpad xx540 or some Samsungs and a Linux installation and you see > things you wouldnt believe... > > And then the good old Slot 1 CPUs where the cpu was just plugged in and > after moving the pc the cpu wasnt connected to the mainboard anymore. > In my (damned i am old) days i've seen a lot of these things. > I agree, I've seen many strange things - just never a BIOS battery that sorta works. Once power is applied, it's not used. I suppose it could pooch the saved settings...maybe... *Player: *1 x Transporter w/Trans-knob, 2 x Touch (Active, 3 x Spares), 4 x Boom (Active, 9 x Spares) *Server: *1 x Win Server (ESXi 6.x) w/LMS, 1 x HP 24" Touch Screen PC w/LMS & SqueezePlay *Control: *4 x w/iPeng, 1 x Samsung Note 4, 3ea x Fire 7", 8 tablets, 1 x 10" all w/SqueezeCtrl & Player (Angry Goat) *Audio: *Mark Levinson 23.5 Amp, 380s Pre, 390s CD, B&W 801 II, Acoustic Energy AE-2 signature, SOTA Sapphire table Computer geek/tech hoarder(!), and DAMN I love the LMS/Squeeze infrastructure! ---- markm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65015 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109816 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Secure Remote Streaming to Mobile Player
Hi, I know this question or similar has been asked many times before, but now that mobile streaming is all the rage with the hip young kids, I was wondering if someone has come up with a solution... I've been doing some searching and tested 2 other products that allow secure External Streaming- i.e. Tonido & SubSonic, on both VortexBox as well as native Windows installs of both these products. Tonido is nice because the service proxies the stream (+1 for that) SubSonic relies on a port forwarding setup within your router (it tries to do it for you via UPNP). Not really a fan of that. Both of there products use HTTPS, well the SubSonic setup of this is a manual process :(. Since we all know (cough..) that we should NEVER expose the LMS server directly to the Internet, I'm wondering if anyone has come up with a solution (software and/or services stack) to allow our favorite mobile players to connect to LMS like the Tonido & Subsonic players can. If it matters, I've also tested encapsulating the LMS servers HTTP stream via 'stunnel', and can get to LMS without issue this way, including the ../stream.mp3 method of playing tunes. Are there any others options that should be looked at? Mobile apps that setup a lighter weight proxy tunnel, rather than a full blown VPN connection? Would this take both a server-side component (Could this be done with a plugin?) and would the players need modifications also? Has anyone overcome these challenges yet? Obviously, the best option would be something that fully encapsulates LMS, with features like: - Proxying of the the stream - A frontend login with multiple usernames/passwords - Accounts would have restrictions on what the mobile player can do when it's operating in truly mobile mode - - Whether it can only control itself or other players - Whether is can change server settings/cause a rescan, etc. - I for one would LOVE to have Pippin of iPeng fame build this missing piece, and then charge a small annual fee for access ;) *Player: *1 x Transporter w/Trans-knob, 2 x Touch (Active, 3 x Spares), 4 x Boom (Active, 9 x Spares) *Server: *1 x Win Server (ESXi 6.x) w/LMS, 1 x HP 24" Touch Screen PC w/LMS & SqueezePlay *Control: *4 x w/iPeng, 1 x Samsung Note 4, 3ea x Fire 7", 8 tablets, 1 x 10" all w/SqueezeCtrl & Player (Angry Goat) *Audio: *Mark Levinson 23.5 Amp, 380s Pre, 390s CD, B&W 801 II, Acoustic Energy AE-2 signature, SOTA Sapphire table Computer geek/tech hoarder(!), and DAMN I love the LMS/Squeeze infrastructure! ---- markm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65015 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109840 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Noob wanting to change old pc into LMS Dedicated server. Best solution?
SyrinxGC wrote: > Thanks! > Does this apply even when the PC starts up but doesn't get past the boot > menu? Frankly, I find this scenario unlikely. In my 30+ years of building PC's, I've never experienced something like that. Computers can run without BIOS battery, it's just that the computer will constantly prompt you for the default BIOS settings after it loses power. *Player: *1 x Transporter w/Trans-knob, 2 x Touch (Active, 3 x Spares), 4 x Boom (Active, 9 x Spares) *Server: *1 x Win Server (ESXi 6.x) w/LMS, 1 x HP 24" Touch Screen PC w/LMS & SqueezePlay *Control: *4 x w/iPeng, 1 x Samsung Note 4, 3ea x Fire 7", 8 tablets, 1 x 10" all w/SqueezeCtrl & Player (Angry Goat) *Audio: *Mark Levinson 23.5 Amp, 380s Pre, 390s CD, B&W 801 II, Acoustic Energy AE-2 signature, SOTA Sapphire table Computer geek/tech hoarder(!), and DAMN I love the LMS/Squeeze infrastructure! ---- markm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65015 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109816 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Noob wanting to change old pc into LMS Dedicated server. Best solution?
SyrinxGC wrote: > Thanks for all the excellent contributions above! No doubt all good > suggestions! The Rasberry PI looks really cool and may be my choice when > the PC finally dies. > > markm: > I'm no computer tech, but I've been around computers since the Atari ST > in the late 1980s. I have very little respect for hardware boxes and no > fear of opening up things to have a look inside. > What I did not mention in my original post was that I also have a > serious health issue, so when the PC got the blue screen (and I read > about the issues with this windows update) I started a recovery of the > previous update. When the PC reset after the recovery and I got no > longer than to the boot menu, I kind of gave up. Although I have not > tried I am sure I can get to the boot menu and sort out some problems > there. I've just not been up to it yet. > > NAS and Amahi are not important - just "words" I read while looking for > possible LMS server alternatives. Having recently turned 60 words in ads > like "one-click-solutions" sounds more and more tempting to me - > although I am at the moment (off topic!) working hard to learn the > complex JOSM software for Openstreetmap.org. > > The music 4TB HD in the old PC is not that old. It will probably still > run for years. > I would, however, like to have at least another HD there for backup > purposes. I've put so much work into that library! > > I am replacing the old PC with a laptop now. Because of that, it would > be nice to have some kind of network disk together with LMS in that old > PC. That is all. If Daphile can do that, great, if not - well LMS is, > as I said, what really counts here! > > Another bonus would be if I could also use the buildt in DVD burner to > rip the occational CD. It would be nice. > > Stein > > EDIT: I have not been able to set up Ipeng to stream music when I'm not > at home. THAT is something I would love to get working. Having read your reply and all the others that followed, all of which bring up valid points, it will really boil down to how much effort you want to perform the initial installation -and- the maintenance effort required moving forward. It sounds like you're technically inclined enough to install a native Linux install, or to use one of the many solutions out there. And yes, there is something to be said about 'rolling your own' as opposed to using a distro that suddenly goes unmaintained. If you have the time, or enjoy the challenge, plop in an old used drive if you have one and try all the solutions mentioned for a week or two and see what -you- like the best! *Player: *1 x Transporter w/Trans-knob, 2 x Touch (Active, 3 x Spares), 4 x Boom (Active, 9 x Spares) *Server: *1 x Win Server (ESXi 6.x) w/LMS, 1 x HP 24" Touch Screen PC w/LMS & SqueezePlay *Control: *4 x w/iPeng, 1 x Samsung Note 4, 3ea x Fire 7", 8 tablets, 1 x 10" all w/SqueezeCtrl & Player (Angry Goat) *Audio: *Mark Levinson 23.5 Amp, 380s Pre, 390s CD, B&W 801 II, Acoustic Energy AE-2 signature, SOTA Sapphire table Computer geek/tech hoarder(!), and DAMN I love the LMS/Squeeze infrastructure! markm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65015 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109816 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS Scan Missed a Song
markm wrote: > ...add some kind of 'audit' number to scanner output... By this I was referencing the scan summary, not what's written to the scanner log - sorry for any confusion... *Player: *1 x Transporter w/Trans-knob, 2 x Touch (Active, 3 x Spares), 4 x Boom (Active, 9 x Spares) *Server: *1 x Win Server (ESXi 6.x) w/LMS, 1 x HP 24" Touch Screen PC w/LMS & SqueezePlay *Control: *4 x w/iPeng, 1 x Samsung Note 4, 3ea x Fire 7", 8 tablets, 1 x 10" all w/SqueezeCtrl & Player (Angry Goat) *Audio: *Mark Levinson 23.5 Amp, 380s Pre, 390s CD, B&W 801 II, Acoustic Energy AE-2 signature, SOTA Sapphire table Computer geek/tech hoarder(!), and DAMN I love the LMS/Squeeze infrastructure! ---- markm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65015 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109589 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS Scan Missed a Song
DJanGo wrote: > There is a line cant read at least somenumber bytes from file xyz > already there - if thats the case. In the log, or in the scan summary that's normally displayed? I don't have access to an LMS server right now... *Player: *1 x Transporter w/Trans-knob, 2 x Touch (Active, 3 x Spares), 4 x Boom (Active, 9 x Spares) *Server: *1 x Win Server (ESXi 6.x) w/LMS, 1 x HP 24" Touch Screen PC w/LMS & SqueezePlay *Control: *4 x w/iPeng, 1 x Samsung Note 4, 3ea x Fire 7", 8 tablets, 1 x 10" all w/SqueezeCtrl & Player (Angry Goat) *Audio: *Mark Levinson 23.5 Amp, 380s Pre, 390s CD, B&W 801 II, Acoustic Energy AE-2 signature, SOTA Sapphire table Computer geek/tech hoarder(!), and DAMN I love the LMS/Squeeze infrastructure! ---- markm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65015 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109589 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Noob wanting to change old pc into LMS Dedicated server. Best solution?
garym wrote: > ...Scanning the approx 100,000 track library from attached 4TB USB drive > took an hour or two...Once done all is fairly responsive, not quite as > fast as my dedicated vortexbox, but not annoying. Yeah, this is just another reason I use laptops - a 500GB to 2TB native drive holds A LOT of music, and the performance of even a USB 3 external drive just isn't close to being the same. *Player: *1 x Transporter w/Trans-knob, 2 x Touch (Active, 3 x Spares), 4 x Boom (Active, 9 x Spares) *Server: *1 x Win Server (ESXi 6.x) w/LMS, 1 x HP 24" Touch Screen PC w/LMS & SqueezePlay *Control: *4 x w/iPeng, 1 x Samsung Note 4, 3ea x Fire 7", 8 tablets, 1 x 10" all w/SqueezeCtrl & Player (Angry Goat) *Audio: *Mark Levinson 23.5 Amp, 380s Pre, 390s CD, B&W 801 II, Acoustic Energy AE-2 signature, SOTA Sapphire table Computer geek/tech hoarder(!), and DAMN I love the LMS/Squeeze infrastructure! ---- markm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65015 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109816 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Noob wanting to change old pc into LMS Dedicated server. Best solution?
garym wrote: > ...I think he said he built the PC... Missed that... Question to the OP: You mention several thought options (NAS, Amahi, etc.), but stress 'running LMS is the most important thing'. These are all very different end goals... To clarify, are the hard drive(s) in this PC still good and it's just the OS install that's messed up, or are you not sure? *Player: *1 x Transporter w/Trans-knob, 2 x Touch (Active, 3 x Spares), 4 x Boom (Active, 9 x Spares) *Server: *1 x Win Server (ESXi 6.x) w/LMS, 1 x HP 24" Touch Screen PC w/LMS & SqueezePlay *Control: *4 x w/iPeng, 1 x Samsung Note 4, 3ea x Fire 7", 8 tablets, 1 x 10" all w/SqueezeCtrl & Player (Angry Goat) *Audio: *Mark Levinson 23.5 Amp, 380s Pre, 390s CD, B&W 801 II, Acoustic Energy AE-2 signature, SOTA Sapphire table Computer geek/tech hoarder(!), and DAMN I love the LMS/Squeeze infrastructure! ---- markm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65015 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109816 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Noob wanting to change old pc into LMS Dedicated server. Best solution?
garym wrote: > Agree. This was dead simple. I got a RPi 3B+, installed PiCorePlayer > and had it all running in minutes. If you want it to be server only, > that's all you need. If you want it to be a player too, there are other > things you can add (plug in) that turn it into a DAC, an amp, or a > digital streamer. Again you don't need the extras if it is just running > your LMS. > > I can follow instructions but have never "built a computer". And it > sounds as if your old PC is dead anyhow unrelated to LMS (you said it no > longer boots). > > In addition to Daphile, Vortexbox is another turn key solution. Install > it and it creates an OS, installs LMS (among other things), and can > emulate a Squeezebox player using squeezelite. Did you purchase a pre-assembled Pi? If not, 'running in minutes' might have been a bit of an over statement :D The OP said his system doesn't boot since the Windows fall 2018 update - I assume he's referencing Windows 10. This doesn't mean the hardware is bad. Why not just reuse it? A thumbs up for Vortexbox, which is another USB bootable solution to try, albeit not Squeeze ecosystem specific. My personal preference is always to keep it simple. *Player: *1 x Transporter w/Trans-knob, 2 x Touch (Active, 3 x Spares), 4 x Boom (Active, 9 x Spares) *Server: *1 x Win Server (ESXi 6.x) w/LMS, 1 x HP 24" Touch Screen PC w/LMS & SqueezePlay *Control: *4 x w/iPeng, 1 x Samsung Note 4, 3ea x Fire 7", 8 tablets, 1 x 10" all w/SqueezeCtrl & Player (Angry Goat) *Audio: *Mark Levinson 23.5 Amp, 380s Pre, 390s CD, B&W 801 II, Acoustic Energy AE-2 signature, SOTA Sapphire table Computer geek/tech hoarder(!), and DAMN I love the LMS/Squeeze infrastructure! markm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65015 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109816 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Noob wanting to change old pc into LMS Dedicated server. Best solution?
Tony T wrote: > For a dedicated LMS, consider dumping the old PC, get a Raspberry Pi, a > hard drive for the music files, and install PiCorePlayer: > https://www.picoreplayer.org > (There's a PiCorePlayer forum here: > https://forums.slimdevices.com/forumdisplay.php?3-Linux-Unix) This is also a good solution, especially if he didn't already have the hardware, but to me it's more for the 'computer guy' or tinkerer. I'm both and as much as I have wanted to, I still haven't eaten any Pi...yet! Just my 2-cents... While the OP doesn't state his level of tech knowledge, I think booting an old desktop/laptop off of a USB stick into Daphile is going to be far easier for someone who is not that well versed in tech. In this scenario, you can also test drive much of the distro without harming the existing OS install (dual booting) Performance-wise, a 7 to 10 year old PC will probably out perform a Raspberry Pi in everything but power consumption. To address this issue, I have bought/been given/cherry picked old laptops and used them this way - maybe still not as efficient as a Pi but it's a nice, all in one, portable LMS server! *Player: *1 x Transporter w/Trans-knob, 2 x Touch (Active, 3 x Spares), 4 x Boom (Active, 9 x Spares) *Server: *1 x Win Server (ESXi 6.x) w/LMS, 1 x HP 24" Touch Screen PC w/LMS & SqueezePlay *Control: *4 x w/iPeng, 1 x Samsung Note 4, 3ea x Fire 7", 8 tablets, 1 x 10" all w/SqueezeCtrl & Player (Angry Goat) *Audio: *Mark Levinson 23.5 Amp, 380s Pre, 390s CD, B&W 801 II, Acoustic Energy AE-2 signature, SOTA Sapphire table Computer geek/tech hoarder(!), and DAMN I love the LMS/Squeeze infrastructure! markm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65015 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109816 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] LMS Scan Missed a Song
Interesting - Not to hijack this thread, but I recently discovered that I'm having similar issues. I had some friends over and they started looking at my collection and couldn't believe I didn't have certain albums. Knowing I did, I started looking into things. I originally ripped all music to .WAV files using dbPowerAmp. A few months ago I converted them to FLAC files using the dbPowerAmp converter. My first thought was folder security, but that didn't make sense and didn't solve the problem. I also have experienced the issue of a track within an album not showing up. I don't remember if it shows using the 'Music Folder' option. Anybody experiencing this issue that ISN'T using dbPowerAmp. I'll do some looking in their forum and post about the issue also. Frankly this is a little disheartening...I can't trust all my music is 'in' LMS now... As a side note to Michael Herger if you read this - Is it possible (and reasonably simple) for you to add some kind of 'audit' number to scanner output so that, if say a file exists but the scanner can't open the file to read the tags (corrupt file) it would be more noticeable that there was an issue (i.e. -file list count- versus -scanned file list count-). I'm sure many people are not going to go digging into there scanner log every time they add new music. i.e. 'scanned 34,234 tracks (34,852 files found - check scanner log!) We would then know to look deeper into the issue... Obviously, the 'files found' are the types that are configured to be scanned - not just any file type... *Player: *1 x Transporter w/Trans-knob, 2 x Touch (Active, 3 x Spares), 4 x Boom (Active, 9 x Spares) *Server: *1 x Win Server (ESXi 6.x) w/LMS, 1 x HP 24" Touch Screen PC w/LMS & SqueezePlay *Control: *4 x w/iPeng, 1 x Samsung Note 4, 3ea x Fire 7", 8 tablets, 1 x 10" all w/SqueezeCtrl & Player (Angry Goat) *Audio: *Mark Levinson 23.5 Amp, 380s Pre, 390s CD, B&W 801 II, Acoustic Energy AE-2 signature, SOTA Sapphire table Computer geek/tech hoarder(!), and DAMN I love the LMS/Squeeze infrastructure! markm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65015 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109589 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Noob wanting to change old pc into LMS Dedicated server. Best solution?
You might want to try Daphile. It can be a dedicated LMS server, or with it's 'Local UI' player option turned on can also act as a Squeezebox (aka endpoint). I like it because it's a complete package so I don't have to dink around with all the separate components - load OS, etc... With this setting turned on, and since any player can connect to any LMS server on your network, you can start out using it just as a player and then migrate your files, settings, etc. until you're comfortable using it as your primary LMS server if you decide to switch. I've been bringing fellow music lovers into the SqueezeBox fold after their issues with Sonos, etc. using old PC's and this distro and some players off of eBay for over 1+ year now - and they LOVE THEIR SqueezeBoxes! What is your configuration - how many hardware players do you have & what types (SB3, Boom, Transporter, Radio)? Any software players? *Player: *1 x Transporter w/Trans-knob, 2 x Touch (Active, 3 x Spares), 4 x Boom (Active, 9 x Spares) *Server: *1 x Win Server (ESXi 6.x) w/LMS, 1 x HP 24" Touch Screen PC w/LMS & SqueezePlay *Control: *4 x w/iPeng, 1 x Samsung Note 4, 3ea x Fire 7", 8 tablets, 1 x 10" all w/SqueezeCtrl & Player (Angry Goat) *Audio: *Mark Levinson 23.5 Amp, 380s Pre, 390s CD, B&W 801 II, Acoustic Energy AE-2 signature, SOTA Sapphire table Computer geek/tech hoarder(!), and DAMN I love the LMS/Squeeze infrastructure! ---- markm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65015 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109816 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Radio plugin - stations no longer playing
There are several threads regarding this subject, but this is one I feel mostly summarizes the current solution is this one... https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?109308-Cannot-get-any-CBS-station-as-of-8-1-2018 *Player: *1 x Transporter w/Trans-knob, 2 x Touch (Active, 3 x Spares), 4 x Boom (Active, 9 x Spares) *Server: *1 x Win Server (ESXi 6.x) w/LMS, 1 x HP 24" Touch Screen PC w/LMS & SqueezePlay *Control: *4 x w/iPeng, 1 x Samsung Note 4, 3ea x Fire 7", 8 tablets, 1 x 10" all w/SqueezeCtrl & Player (Angry Goat) *Audio: *Mark Levinson 23.5 Amp, 380s Pre, 390s CD, B&W 801 II, Acoustic Energy AE-2 signature, SOTA Sapphire table Computer geek/tech hoarder(!), and DAMN I love the LMS/Squeeze infrastructure! ---- markm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65015 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109171 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Anyone have LMS running on Zotac mini pc?
tbessie wrote: > Hi all! > > For many years I've had LMS running on an HTPC I built, running Windows > 7 x64. > > This works fine, except I've been having some troubles with the computer > BSOD'ing a lot (at first due to a faulty stick of memory, but it keeps > doing it, possibly due to that memory being somewhat incompatible with > the motherboard or some driver fault, or perhaps damage done by all the > crashes of the past). I think my continually putting the computer to > sleep and waking it up exacerbates the issues I've had. > > In any case, I've decided it would be easier to use and more dependable > if I had a small-form-factor, low-power device just to be that server. > Looking around, the Zotac mini-pc's look pretty great for what I want. > I was thinking of getting one of the i3 or i5 based ones. > > Has anyone tried these machines with LMS? I'd be running Linux on it, I > think. > > What success have folks had with small form factor computers like this? > Do you recommend any particular brands that work well? > > - Tim You don't say whether you are using integrated storage or not, but if so what capacity? My 2-cents... If this is a requirement, just by a 1-2 gen older PC off of eBay. I know the LMS platform is great for hobbyists and I've been tempted many times to go the Raspberry Pi route, but for my money (and time) a used PC is the way to go. I like the HP ProDesk 600/EliteDesk 800 G1-G3 vintage - Desktop Mini for real small, or SFF to allow for more storage. For friends I might just run a native install of DaPhile https://www.daphile.com, or I run it under a Windows + Plus VMware Workstation/VirtualBox stack which allows me to run other apps as well. Any model with a Intel i5-4790T or i5-6500T typically draws about 10-15 watts, just lumping along with LMS (single drive). If you run 3-5 VM's and/or more drives it typically draws more like 30-45 watts. These are real world based on my kill-a-watt style meters. *Player: *1 x Transporter w/Trans-knob, 2 x Touch (Active, 3 x Spares), 4 x Boom (Active, 9 x Spares) *Server: *1 x Win Server (ESXi 6.x) w/LMS, 1 x HP 24" Touch Screen PC w/LMS & SqueezePlay *Control: *4 x w/iPeng, 1 x Samsung Note 4, 3ea x Fire 7", 8 tablets, 1 x 10" all w/SqueezeCtrl & Player (Angry Goat) *Audio: *Mark Levinson 23.5 Amp, 380s Pre, 390s CD, B&W 801 II, Acoustic Energy AE-2 signature, SOTA Sapphire table Computer geek/tech hoarder(!), and DAMN I love the LMS/Squeeze infrastructure! markm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65015 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109282 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Radio plugin - stations no longer playing
It does indeed appear Entercom/CBS Radio stations are no longer accessible again. I would think this has to effect a huge amount of users out there as Entercom owned a lot of stations in the US. Consider this an appeal to Michael or anyone else able to resolve this issue! *Player: *1 x Transporter w/Trans-knob, 2 x Touch (Active, 3 x Spares), 4 x Boom (Active, 9 x Spares) *Server: *1 x Win Server (ESXi 6.x) w/LMS, 1 x HP 24" Touch Screen PC w/LMS & SqueezePlay *Control: *4 x w/iPeng, 1 x Samsung Note 4, 3ea x Fire 7", 8 tablets, 1 x 10" all w/SqueezeCtrl & Player (Angry Goat) *Audio: *Mark Levinson 23.5 Amp, 380s Pre, 390s CD, B&W 801 II, Acoustic Energy AE-2 signature, SOTA Sapphire table Computer geek/tech hoarder(!), and DAMN I love the LMS/Squeeze infrastructure! ---- markm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65015 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109171 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Radio plugin - stations no longer playing
Fixed as of 1pm 2018-06-20...cool! *Player: *1 x Transporter w/Trans-knob, 2 x Touch (Active, 3 x Spares), 4 x Boom (Active, 9 x Spares) *Server: *1 x Win Server (ESXi 6.x) w/LMS, 1 x HP 24" Touch Screen PC w/LMS & SqueezePlay *Control: *4 x w/iPeng, 1 x Samsung Note 4, 3ea x Fire 7", 8 tablets, 1 x 10" all w/SqueezeCtrl & Player (Angry Goat) *Audio: *Mark Levinson 23.5 Amp, 380s Pre, 390s CD, B&W 801 II, Acoustic Energy AE-2 signature, SOTA Sapphire table Computer geek/tech hoarder(!), and DAMN I love the LMS/Squeeze infrastructure! ---- markm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65015 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109171 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Radio plugin - stations no longer playing
Hi, As of today I noticed that when using the standard 'Radio' selection off the main menu I can no longer play local stations that are/were Entercom stations. Entercom merged with CBS Radio last year, but they've been making a push over the last 2 weeks to get everyone to update your phone app to the 'radio.com' version. I noticed that mysb has a CBS Radio app but when I go to use it, it says internet.radio.com cannot be resolved. I did a lookup and I do get an IP address, but something obviously isn't right - at least for me. Can someone confirm if the CBS Radio app is broken or not, and/or confirm that the standard radio plugin will eventually be sorted out (much preferred)? Thanks! Mark *Player: *1 x Transporter w/Trans-knob, 2 x Touch (Active, 3 x Spares), 4 x Boom (Active, 9 x Spares) *Server: *1 x Win Server (ESXi 6.x) w/LMS, 1 x HP 24" Touch Screen PC w/LMS & SqueezePlay *Control: *4 x w/iPeng, 1 x Samsung Note 4, 3ea x Fire 7", 8 tablets, 1 x 10" all w/SqueezeCtrl & Player (Angry Goat) *Audio: *Mark Levinson 23.5 Amp, 380s Pre, 390s CD, B&W 801 II, Acoustic Energy AE-2 signature, SOTA Sapphire table Computer geek/tech hoarder(!), and DAMN I love the LMS/Squeeze infrastructure! ---- markm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65015 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109171 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How-To Clear cache of discovered players, and the ramifications of doing so
DJanGo wrote: > upps too late. > > A Way that works for me: > > > > > - grab a list of the "good" / wanted players you dont want to loose - Stop the LMS - copy / backup server.prefs - grab a "fake macaddress" - replace all the _client:fo:rg:et:th:is with _client:fa:ke:ma:c > (something like 00:11:22:33:44:55 ) - save the file - start lms - use the webgui / settings / players and show the settings from the > players - lms detects the duplicates (your fake mac) and shrinks the > server.prefs by removing these duplicates - stop lms - remove the fakeplayer - start lms > > > Yes, I could see how that could work - except I definitely had an issue within the file that the parsing routine in LMS didn't like. This is why LMS was not removing these player to begin with. *Player: *1 x Transporter w/Trans-knob, 2 x Touch (Active, 3 x Spares), 4 x Boom (Active, 9 x Spares) *Server: *1 x Win Server (ESXi 6.x) w/LMS, 1 x HP 24" Touch Screen PC w/LMS & SqueezePlay *Control: *4 x w/iPeng, 1 x Samsung Note 4, 3ea x Fire 7", 8 tablets, 1 x 10" all w/SqueezeCtrl & Player (Angry Goat) *Audio: *Mark Levinson 23.5 Amp, 380s Pre, 390s CD, B&W 801 II, Acoustic Energy AE-2 signature, SOTA Sapphire table Computer geek/tech hoarder(!), and DAMN I love the LMS/Squeeze infrastructure! markm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65015 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109088 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How-To Clear cache of discovered players, and the ramifications of doing so
mherger wrote: > > - How do you clear cache of discovered players? > > What do you consider "cache"? As outlined in the other thread where this > > was discussed, LMS should only show you devices which are connected, or > > which were connected until a few minutes ago. But you should not see > devices you set up months or years ago and didn't touch since. I still > do have my SliMP3 in the configuration file, but it would never show up > > in LMS. > > > - What are the ramifications of doing so with regard to LMS and the > >various plugins? > > You'd lose the prefs for those players, obviously. > > I wonder whether you have some plugin which is messing with this > mechanism. What other 3rd party plugins do you use? Ever tried to > disable all but the Groups plugins? > > -- > > Michael Ok, it was a royal PAIN, but I removed all the various SqueezePlay, spare Boom & Classics, etc. that where only connected for testing after eBay purchase from the config. This reduced the number of players from 74(!) to 28 players that had names I recognized. I started LMS with this updated file and the number of players went down to 6(!) and my startup time went from 2-4 minutes to 60-90 seconds! NICE! There was obviously something in server.prefs that was screwed up, and looking at the structure I could see how this could cause all kinds of headaches. Michael, would you like me to send you the original server.prefs to test for parsing issues? *Player: *1 x Transporter w/Trans-knob, 2 x Touch (Active, 3 x Spares), 4 x Boom (Active, 9 x Spares) *Server: *1 x Win Server (ESXi 6.x) w/LMS, 1 x HP 24" Touch Screen PC w/LMS & SqueezePlay *Control: *4 x w/iPeng, 1 x Samsung Note 4, 3ea x Fire 7", 8 tablets, 1 x 10" all w/SqueezeCtrl & Player (Angry Goat) *Audio: *Mark Levinson 23.5 Amp, 380s Pre, 390s CD, B&W 801 II, Acoustic Energy AE-2 signature, SOTA Sapphire table Computer geek/tech hoarder(!), and DAMN I love the LMS/Squeeze infrastructure! markm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65015 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109088 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How-To Troubleshoot Excessive CPU Usage - Plugin issue
mherger wrote: > > Disable half of the installed plugins. > > Fixed? Re-enable half of the disabled plugins. > Not fixed? Disable half of the remaining enabled plugins. > > Repeat until you're back to normal. Re-enable everything but the > suspect. > Ugh, I was afraid you would tell me that. The old process of elimination method...thanks *Player: *1 x Transporter w/Trans-knob, 2 x Touch (Active, 3 x Spares), 4 x Boom (Active, 9 x Spares) *Server: *1 x Win Server (ESXi 6.x) w/LMS, 1 x HP 24" Touch Screen PC w/LMS & SqueezePlay *Control: *4 x w/iPeng, 1 x Samsung Note 4, 3ea x Fire 7", 8 tablets, 1 x 10" all w/SqueezeCtrl & Player (Angry Goat) *Audio: *Mark Levinson 23.5 Amp, 380s Pre, 390s CD, B&W 801 II, Acoustic Energy AE-2 signature, SOTA Sapphire table Computer geek/tech hoarder(!), and DAMN I love the LMS/Squeeze infrastructure! ---- markm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65015 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109087 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How-To Clear cache of discovered players, and the ramifications of doing so
philippe_44 wrote: > You can manually edit server.prefs (in /var/lig/squeezeboxserver/prefs) > and remove all players you don't want. The format is pretty > self-explanatory. Having said that, I still don't understand why, with > "show disconnecte players" disabled, you see all players in the Group > Player plugin. Per my question on the other thread, do you see more > players when you check that option? Thanks. Response to your question in other thread... *Player: *1 x Transporter w/Trans-knob, 2 x Touch (Active, 3 x Spares), 4 x Boom (Active, 9 x Spares) *Server: *1 x Win Server (ESXi 6.x) w/LMS, 1 x HP 24" Touch Screen PC w/LMS & SqueezePlay *Control: *4 x w/iPeng, 1 x Samsung Note 4, 3ea x Fire 7", 8 tablets, 1 x 10" all w/SqueezeCtrl & Player (Angry Goat) *Audio: *Mark Levinson 23.5 Amp, 380s Pre, 390s CD, B&W 801 II, Acoustic Energy AE-2 signature, SOTA Sapphire table Computer geek/tech hoarder(!), and DAMN I love the LMS/Squeeze infrastructure! ---- markm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65015 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109088 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How-To Clear cache of discovered players, and the ramifications of doing so
Hi, One of the plugins I have started using is showing a large number of disconnected players. This makes sense because I have many, many spares, plus all the software players I've tinkered with over the last several years. So as the title says, - How do you clear cache of discovered players? - What are the ramifications of doing so with regard to LMS and the various plugins? - Thanks! *Player: *1 x Transporter w/Trans-knob, 2 x Touch (Active, 3 x Spares), 4 x Boom (Active, 9 x Spares) *Server: *1 x Win Server (ESXi 6.x) w/LMS, 1 x HP 24" Touch Screen PC w/LMS & SqueezePlay *Control: *4 x w/iPeng, 1 x Samsung Note 4, 3ea x Fire 7", 8 tablets, 1 x 10" all w/SqueezeCtrl & Player (Angry Goat) *Audio: *Mark Levinson 23.5 Amp, 380s Pre, 390s CD, B&W 801 II, Acoustic Energy AE-2 signature, SOTA Sapphire table Computer geek/tech hoarder(!), and DAMN I love the LMS/Squeeze infrastructure! ---- markm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65015 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109088 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How-To Troubleshoot Excessive CPU Usage - Plugin issue
Hi, I've been doing battle suddenly with plugin(s) that seem to be causing excessive CPU usage, but I don't know exactly which one, and in any case I'd like to have data for the developer if it can be narrowed down. Is there some method to get some statistics or debug info that could point me to why this is happening? I've attempted a bunch of trial & error - removal and install in different order, etc. Problem is, it doesn't happen immediately - it kind of builds. Thanks for any insights *Player: *1 x Transporter w/Trans-knob, 2 x Touch (Active, 3 x Spares), 4 x Boom (Active, 9 x Spares) *Server: *1 x Win Server (ESXi 6.x) w/LMS, 1 x HP 24" Touch Screen PC w/LMS & SqueezePlay *Control: *4 x w/iPeng, 1 x Samsung Note 4, 3ea x Fire 7", 8 tablets, 1 x 10" all w/SqueezeCtrl & Player (Angry Goat) *Audio: *Mark Levinson 23.5 Amp, 380s Pre, 390s CD, B&W 801 II, Acoustic Energy AE-2 signature, SOTA Sapphire table Computer geek/tech hoarder(!), and DAMN I love the LMS/Squeeze infrastructure! ---- markm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65015 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=109087 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Stream from DLNA to LMS?
Check that... I went to enable the client and ran into an issue - anyone have a solution before I go hunting Code: [18-04-02 14:12:04.8752] Can't locate Net/UPnP/Device.pm in @INC (@INC contains: ***long list of different paths to search*** ) at C:/PROGRA~2/SQUEEZ~1/server/Slim/Plugin/RemoteLibrary/UPnP/ControlPoint.pm line 15. *Player: *1 x Transporter w/Trans-knob, 2 x Touch (Active, 3 x Spares), 4 x Boom (Active, 9 x Spares) *Server: *1 x Win Server (ESXi 6.x) w/LMS, 1 x HP 24" Touch Screen PC w/LMS & SqueezePlay *Control: *4 x w/iPeng, 1 x Samsung Note 4, 3ea x Fire 7", 8 tablets, 1 x 10" all w/SqueezeCtrl & Player (Angry Goat) *Audio: *Mark Levinson 23.5 Amp, 380s Pre, 390s CD, B&W 801 II, Acoustic Energy AE-2 signature, SOTA Sapphire table Computer geek/tech hoarder(!), and DAMN I love the LMS/Squeeze infrastructure! ---- markm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65015 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103566 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Stream from DLNA to LMS?
philippe_44 wrote: > ...But you have under the "advanced", "networking" settings of LMS an > option to be a uPnP client. What it means is that LMS server will look > for uPnP servers and integrate their libraries into LMS collection (if I > remember well) Since I didn't see this option listed in v7.9.1 Sept 15th, 2017 build, I went searching for it. Assuming this is the correct setting referenced in your post, it now appears under 'Advanced->Remote Music Libraries'. I also don't know which version/build is the dividing line, or if it's the result of a particular mix of plugins I have installed - just figured I'd point it out for others... 24844 +---+ |Filename: UPnp-DLNA Client Setting Location in LMS v7.9.1.JPG | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=24844| +---+ *Player: *1 x Transporter w/Trans-knob, 2 x Touch (Active, 3 x Spares), 4 x Boom (Active, 9 x Spares) *Server: *1 x Win Server (ESXi 6.x) w/LMS, 1 x HP 24" Touch Screen PC w/LMS & SqueezePlay *Control: *4 x w/iPeng, 1 x Samsung Note 4, 3ea x Fire 7", 8 tablets, 1 x 10" all w/SqueezeCtrl & Player (Angry Goat) *Audio: *Mark Levinson 23.5 Amp, 380s Pre, 390s CD, B&W 801 II, Acoustic Energy AE-2 signature, SOTA Sapphire table Computer geek/tech hoarder(!), and DAMN I love the LMS/Squeeze infrastructure! markm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65015 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=103566 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] How stable is the latest release of 7.9?
mandryka wrote: > ...Various ports fail. What do you mean by this statement? Physical ports on the server? Or TCP/UDP port bindings? *Player: *1 x Transporter w/Trans-knob, 2 x Touch (Active, 3 x Spares), 4 x Boom (Active, 9 x Spares) *Server: *1 x Win Server (ESXi 6.x) w/LMS, 1 x HP 24" Touch Screen PC w/LMS & SqueezePlay *Control: *4 x w/iPeng, 1 x Samsung Note 4, 3ea x Fire 7", 8 tablets, 1 x 10" all w/SqueezeCtrl & Player (Angry Goat) *Audio: *Mark Levinson 23.5 Amp, 380s Pre, 390s CD, B&W 801 II, Acoustic Energy AE-2 signature, SOTA Sapphire table Computer geek/tech hoarder(!), and DAMN I love the LMS/Squeeze infrastructure! ---- markm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65015 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=108859 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Webapp for LMS ?
I know this is an older post/thread, but figured I'd post something more 2018 for folks that stumble in here... As nice as this all is, the newly released Squeezelite-X is great, and is probably what you're looking for nowadays - in the Windows world at least. Having said that, I would highly recommend looking into devices. I use both of these excellent apps - iPeng & Squeeze Ctrl (Angry Goat Software). Since iPeng is for Apple DEVICES only, I would also recommend looking at Squeeze Ctrl/Control (Angry Goat Software), -*which is available in the Windows 10 app store*- (24hr trial/$4.49 to purchase). I run Squeeze Ctrl on my Amazon Fire 7" tablets I got at Christmas time (3-pack 7" $75!, 8" $120!). Both of these will obviously work with any player, I also bought their 'SB Player' because it 'auto-launches' with the app. This solution results in a complete, portable tablet controller/player solution for a pretty damn cheap price! I do wish iPeng would come out with an implementation for Android, because it is my 'first love' of these apps, but the Android infrastructure is just to damn inexpensive to ignore anymore. Just my 2 cents... 1 x Transporter w/Trans-knob, 2 x Touch (Active, 3 x Spares), 4 x Boom (Active, 8 x Spares) 1 x Win Server (ESXi 6.x) w/LMS 1 x HP 24" Touch Screen PC w/LMS & SqueezePlay) 4 x iDevices w/iPeng app/player 1 x Samsung Note 4, 3ea x Fire 7", 8 tablets, 1 x 10" all w/SqueezeCtrl & Player (Angry Goat) Mark Levinson 23.5 Amp, 380s Pre, 390s CD B&W 801 II, Acoustic Energy AE-1 signature SOTA Sapphire table Computer geek/tech hoarder(!), and DAMN I love the LMS/Squeeze infrastructure! markm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=65015 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=104305 ___ Squeezecenter mailing list Squeezecenter@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/squeezecenter
