Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing icon in System Tray

2016-12-06 Thread StevePalmer

Yes, that seems like a good point. My gut feel is that it's definitely a
permissions issue as I can run it from a shortcut once I'm booted to
desktop. The bizarre thing is that I definitely got it to show in the
tray on my previous w10 PC (that also had the same 'problem' - It's just
I can't recall exactly what I did! ☺ 

Cheers

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing icon in System Tray

2016-12-06 Thread d6jg

StevePalmer wrote: 
> Yes,  a good point - my only issue is that I can't easily see if an
> update is available for LMS (I used to right click on the tray icon and
> it would say 'install update'). 
> 
> Anyway,  I've had LMS on around 10 separate Windows machines over the
> years - and like Unix, they 'just worked' ☺ Hence my determination
> this time round 👍
> 
> Sent from my Samsung Note III

The issue Steve is w10 has introduced a slightly different set of rules
so far as user permissions are concerned. Goggle "elevated privileges".
My guess is that your user - the one you are logged on as - does not
have the necessary rights to see the system tray for a service that is
being run as a service by a higher power.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing icon in System Tray

2016-12-05 Thread StevePalmer

Yes,  a good point - my only issue is that I can't easily see if an
update is available for LMS (I used to right click on the tray icon and
it would say 'install update'). 

Anyway,  I've had LMS on around 10 separate Windows machines over the
years - and like Unix, they 'just worked' ☺ Hence my determination
this time round 👍

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing icon in System Tray

2016-12-05 Thread d6jg

Does it really matter?
You can access all the settings through the web browser anyway.

BTW you don't get this sort of issue with a *nix install of any kind. It
just works.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing icon in System Tray

2016-12-03 Thread StevePalmer

Thanks for this latest advice.

It's all beginning to defy logic now! :( I added the shortcut as you
suggested, but even then the tray icon is still not showing.

As a last resort, the only way I can get the tray icon to appear is to
create a scheduled task that runs at the beginning of my day. It's
hardly an elegant solution, but it works. 

I'm really beginning to think it's a glitch with this new PC/Win 10.

Thanks

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing icon in System Tray

2016-12-03 Thread reinholdk

Great that it works if you start it manually. But I'd rather disable the
other entry for the tray icon shown by Autoruns as well and move the
shortcut you created on the desktop to the autostart folder for all
users.

To do this open an explorer window and enter "shell:common startup"
(without quotes) in the address bar. This is usually the same as
"C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\StartUp". Then
move your shortcut from the desktop into this folder and logout (or
better restart the pc so that other instances are stopped) and login
again. Then a single instance of SqueezeTray.exe should run and be shown
in the system tray.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing icon in System Tray

2016-12-03 Thread StevePalmer

reinholdk wrote: 
> Well, there are two instances of SqueezeTray.exe for the same user. This
> should not be the case. Please check how they get started, e.g. from
> which autostart location.
> 
> The best tool for this is Sysinternals' Autoruns, which you can download
> from 'here' (https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb963902).
> Simply unzip to any folder and run Autoruns.exe or Autoruns64.exe. Let
> it scan your system until it says 'Ready' in its status bar. Then enter
> squeeze in the Filter text box and you'll see all locations.

Hiya!

Thanks a lot - this is helpful. Here is a screen grab after applying the
filter

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing icon in System Tray

2016-12-03 Thread reinholdk

Well, there are two instances of SqueezeTray.exe for the same user. This
should not be the case. Please check how they get started, e.g. from
which autostart location.

The best tool for this is Sysinternals' Autoruns, which you can download
from 'here' (https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb963902).
Simply unzip to any folder and run Autoruns.exe or Autoruns64.exe. Let
it scan your system until it says 'Ready' in its status bar. Then enter
squeeze in the Filter text box and you'll see all locations.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing icon in System Tray

2016-12-02 Thread StevePalmer

Thanks for the suggestion.

Does the attached screen grab of Task Manager 'details' tell you
anything?

Cheers

Steve

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing icon in System Tray

2016-12-02 Thread reinholdk

Check under which user account the SqueezeTray.exe runs. You can see
this on Task Manager's Details tab.

Usually this is the local Windows user account you've used for login.
Guess you won't see the tray icon if it's different from the current
user. But SqueezeTray.exe should automatically start for each logged-in
user, so it's possible to see several instances of SqueezeTray.exe in
Task Manager.

Not sure what happens since you're using your MS online account for
login. Maybe a local account is created and mapped to the online
account? Need to investigate sometime...



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing icon in System Tray

2016-12-02 Thread StevePalmer

At this stage, I can cope with any coloured fish! :)

Yes, although I sign into the PC using my msoft account, I've always
used the local account option - see below. As an experiment I switched
it to 'This Account'. It didn't seem to make any difference and the icon
is still missing.

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing icon in System Tray

2016-12-02 Thread StevePalmer

I might have posted the wrong screen shot. Here is the latest - it is
running

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing icon in System Tray

2016-12-02 Thread kidstypike

In your picture of the Task Manager Proccesses a few posts above, you
don't have Logitech Media Server Tray Icon running, seems like that's
the problem?

Here's mine:


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing icon in System Tray

2016-12-02 Thread CloudAtlas

The only other thing I can think of (which may be a total red herring)
is that I recall from another thread of yours regarding the installation
of Windows 10, you mentioned using a microsoft account.
Did you install LMS whilst logged in using your microsoft account, or a
local account?
I really don't know whether this would make a diffference, but I've only
ever used local accounts with Windows 10 and have never had a problem
with the tray icon not being present.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing icon in System Tray

2016-12-02 Thread StevePalmer

Hi All

OK, I checked that the icon was switched on in TaskBar settings - see
attached - after installing the latest version of LMS. But in spite of
it being ON, it's not showing in the system tray.

Totally out of ideas now!

..and one more grey hair!
:)

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing icon in System Tray

2016-12-02 Thread Man in a van

StevePalmer wrote: 
> The bizarre thing is that I had the very same problem on my previous
> Win10 PC and I solved it by adding a duplicate entry for the squeeze
> tray app in the startup group. However, I tried this on the new PC and
> it made no difference. 
> 
> As a last resort, I'm going to take your advice and download the latest
> version of LMS - and see what happens. 
> 
> Thanks for replying. 
> 
> Steve
> 
> Sent from my Samsung Note III

Don't forget, right click on the .exe "run as admin"



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing icon in System Tray

2016-12-02 Thread StevePalmer

The bizarre thing is that I had the very same problem on my previous
Win10 PC and I solved it by adding a duplicate entry for the squeeze
tray app in the startup group. However, I tried this on the new PC and
it made no difference. 

As a last resort, I'm going to take your advice and download the latest
version of LMS - and see what happens. 

Thanks for replying. 

Steve

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing icon in System Tray

2016-12-02 Thread kidstypike

In the 7+ years that I used a Windows PC to run LMS before switching to
a Pi, the LMS icon in the system tray has gone missing without
explanation several times, sometimes for days/weeks, but usually turns
up at some point.

I have 2 laptops and a PC here all with Win 10/LMS 7.9 installed (but
not used), the icon is visible on all 3 machines.

I would just try installing the latest LMS server over itself to
possibly give it kick up the backside.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing icon in System Tray

2016-12-02 Thread StevePalmer

Thanks again CloudAtlas. Reset it to 'All' so that everything shows in
the tray, but the LMS icon WASN'T one of them. :(

Beginning to think it's a glitch with my PC and/or Windows 10

Cheers

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing icon in System Tray

2016-12-02 Thread CloudAtlas

It might be worth checking the notifications settings (if you haven't
already done so)

- right-click on an empty bit of the taskbar and choose settings
- scroll down to the hyperlink which states 'Select which icons appear
in the taskbar'
- usually the default setting is that everything is switched on with the
button at the top

As you will see on this settings screen, you can choose each or any of
the icons individually and it might be worth having a tweak of the
settings and then set it back to default to try and give Windows a nudge
in the right direction.
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing icon in System Tray

2016-12-01 Thread StevePalmer

Sorry, it's my use of the term 'LMS' to mean *anything* that is running
to do with the program.

I have taken a screen grab of all the relevant pieces of the jigsaw (I
think) - perhaps you'll take a look and confirm, or not, that all is
where is hould be.

Thanks for your patience with an inesperienced user!

Steve


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing icon in System Tray

2016-12-01 Thread w3wilkes

You keep saying LMS is running and we do not doubt that. From what I
remember you saying earlier you have LMS set to run as a service. To
verify this you can start "services.msc" and see a service called
"Logitech Media Server" or on the Services tab of Task Manager called
Squeezesvc. These are Logitech Media Server (SqueezeSvr.exe), not the
tray icon. The tray icon is the SqueezeTray.exe which is separate from
the server itself. If you can see both SqueezeSvr.exe and
SqueezeTray.exe in the Processes tab in Task Manager I can't imagine why
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing icon in System Tray

2016-12-01 Thread StevePalmer

w3wilkes wrote: 
> Does SqueezeTray.exe show as active in Task manager? Almost sounds like
> it didn't start. What exact "startup" folder did you put it in?

Yes, it does show and LMS is running OK. I have tried the following
permutations of the 'startup folder' - 'All Users Startup Folder' and
'Startup Folder'. I have also tried creating a basic task in task
scheduler. The bottom line is that the icone doesn't show but LMS *is*
running as I can use all my radios around the house listening to my
MP3s.

Weird huh???!!!

:)

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing icon in System Tray

2016-12-01 Thread reinholdk

The shortcut to SqueezeTray.exe on my pc is here:
"C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\StartUp".
Don't remember putting it there. Maybe done by the installer.

You should find it listed on the Start tab of the Windows Taskmanager.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing icon in System Tray

2016-12-01 Thread w3wilkes

Does SqueezeTray.exe show as active in Task manager? Almost sounds like
it didn't start. What exact "startup" folder did you put it in?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing icon in System Tray

2016-12-01 Thread StevePalmer

Good suggestion, but the 'tray icon' isn't listed there

Thanks anyway

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing icon in System Tray

2016-12-01 Thread d6jg

W10 - Right click on Taskbar, Settings - Notification Area - Select
which icons appear on the taskbar



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing icon in System Tray

2016-11-30 Thread StevePalmer

Thanks. Yes I've already got Squeezer ray in the startup list -  I can
see it there but it's not visible in the tray after boot up. Weird!
That's what made me think it might be an 'issue' rather than (my)
incompetence 😉

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing icon in System Tray

2016-11-30 Thread w3wilkes

I think you still need to run C:\Program Files
(x86)\Squeezebox\SqueezeTray.exe from startup or task scheduler to get
the tray icon. This is the tray icon, not LMS.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing icon in System Tray

2016-11-30 Thread StevePalmer

Thanks. It run as a service on boot up. 

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing icon in System Tray

2016-11-30 Thread reinholdk

Check if you can find SqueezeTray.exe listed in Windows Taskmanager's
Process (Details?) list.

How do you start LMS?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing icon in System Tray

2016-11-30 Thread StevePalmer

Nope... I looked. LMS is running OK, but the icon just doesn't show

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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing icon in System Tray

2016-11-30 Thread kidstypike

StevePalmer wrote: 
> Hi guys
> 
> Just reinstalled the latest version of LMS on my new Win10 PC. All is
> working fine after a couple of mis-steps with iPLayer, but I was
> helpfully pointed in the right direction by this Forum :)
> 
> The only niggle now is that the green LMS 'tray' icon isn't showing in
> the tray. I know there has been many previous posts about this
> (including a couple from me a few years back where I solved it by adding
> the file to the startup group) at
> http://forums.slimdevices.com/search.php?searchid=2547237
> 
> So, I confidently repeated the process on my shiny new PC... and it
> still doesn't show. I even added it as a 'task on startup'... and it
> still won't show.
> 
> Does anyone know whether this is solvable or it's a glitch in LMS under
> Windows 10?
> 
> Many thanks!
> 
> Steve

If you click the *˄* icon on the task bar, it's not hiding up there
is it?


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[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Missing icon in System Tray

2016-11-30 Thread StevePalmer

Hi guys

Just reinstalled the latest version of LMS on my new Win10 PC. All is
working fine after a couple of mis-steps with iPLayer, but I was
helpfully pointed in the right direction by this Forum :)

The only niggle now is that the green LMS 'tray' icon isn't showing in
the tray. I know there has been many previous posts about this
(including a couple from me a few years back where I solved it by adding
the file to the startup group) at
http://forums.slimdevices.com/search.php?searchid=2547237

So, I confidently repeated the process on my shiny new PC... and it
still doesn't show. I even added it as a 'task on startup'... and it
still won't show.

Does anyone know whether this is solvable or it's a glitch in LMS under
Windows 10?

Many thanks!

Steve



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