Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Not sure where to start :(

2018-01-08 Thread KeBul

Hi,

Seems to me you have at least one issue possibly 2, maybe even more and
plenty of doubt...

But the main 2 are: 

You've changed your LMS hardware (PC) and have doubts about the server
build 

and

Your player is crashing regularly - is it the player? or the new server
build?

So here's how I would handle this...

First verify your server build *without* using your existing player,
there are two ways to do this, fairly cheap or free.

1. Download SqueezePlay (free software based Squeezebox player) for your
PC, install it and connect it to your server and spend some time testing
and listening to your music via SqueezePlay on your PC to prove all is
OK with the server build and music.

2. If you have a smartphone or tablet, buy iPeng or SqueezePad (IOS) or
SqueezePlayer (Android), all can be used as players, (as well as
excellent controllers), you can connect to your server and test as per
1.

If you still have problems with either of the above then we need to fix
those issues before moving onto your SB2 issues, so report back on what
happens when testing with 1. or 2. above.

Note at this stage I'll agree with previous posters that somethings not
quite right with your scanner log, I've never used Onedrive, but I have
seen issues posted here on the forum where someone was using a cloud
based service that wasn't keeping all the files locally, maybe this is
what's changed on your new build.., Onedrive hasn't locally cached (all)
your music files and streaming (some of) them from the cloud is causing
the SB2 to fail.

So now let's say - all is well with the server and you are feeling
happier to move forward with your SB2, so fix or replace? 
Some good advice has already been given re PSU and WiFi card fixes...
But replacements...

Yes buying used on eBay is an option, I have quite a few "spare" units
I've picked up from eBay to give my system a future, prices vary from
time to time and depending on model but they generally still hold a
decent price which shows the continuing strength of the Squeeze
ecosystem.
There are also new options available in the form of Raspberry Pi builds
emulating squeezebox players, have a look at Max2Play shop online
https://shop.max2play.com/en/ to get some ideas of what's possible,
there's plenty of help here in the forum on building your own if you
want to have a play yourself, PiCoreplayer as well as Max2Play being
good player setups on raspberry Pi's.

If you wanted to you could also take it a step further with Raspberry
Pi's, both of the above player solutions also run as servers - so no
need to have that large power sucking PC chugging away in the background
when you are sitting back relaxing listening to music - but I very much
suspect that will be for another day.

or you can cut your losses and head over to your nearest Sonos stockist,
no idea what if any advantages that has, I last compared the two systems
back in 2009, I went with Squeezebox and haven't looked back since,
still one of the best "gadgets" I've ever bought (5+ players spread
around my house).  A couple of years ago I bought two used SB Radios and
a Raspberry Pi and set up a system for my sister, ripped her music
collection, she loves it, replaced her failing DAB radio and iPod Touch
on a Bose Sounddock. A month ago I picked up an SB Touch and hooked that
up to her TV Soundbar in her lounge, all her music in 3 rooms now for
under £300

Hope the above helps

Kev



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Not sure where to start :(

2018-01-07 Thread Mnyb

The SB3 can work without the WiFi card if you run it wired .

People replace the power supplies .

Buy used SB Touch for example .

And very popular build their own based on a raspberry pi 3 + DAC or
digital output card and load “ picoreplayer” on it this a ready made OS
and Squeezelite player ( and more ) you can burn on an SD card and stick
into a raspberry pi 3 .

Use Phillips different bridge plugins and run foreign players .

Rummage your pile of spare players you bougth and old player you
replaced :)




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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Not sure where to start :(

2018-01-07 Thread bpa

jonblauch wrote: 
> All signals seem to point to this conclusion. If that is the case, given
> the product is discontinued, what are people doing? Buying used stuff on
> Ebay, or taking a jump to another platform ( aka Sonos)?

If the problem is the Wifi card - you can open the Sb3 up with a Torx
screwdriver and remove the card. IF the SB3 doesn't reboot - then a
replacement wifi card is  usually only about $5-10.

If the problem is the PSU - a replacement PSU is quite cheap and worth
trying before considering an alternative device.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Not sure where to start :(

2018-01-07 Thread jonblauch

alfista wrote: 
> If the player does a complete restart, with "splash screen" and
> everything that would suggest some kind of hardware problem rater than
> server or network problem.
> The power supplies often fail with age and sometimes cause restarts.
> WiFi boards may also cause erratic behaviour.

All signals seem to point to this conclusion. If that is the case, given
the product is discontinued, what are people doing? Buying used stuff on
Ebay, or taking a jump to another platform ( aka Sonos)?



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Not sure where to start :(

2018-01-07 Thread toby10

If you still have old computer laying around with LMS on it, try
connecting SB to that LMS.  If that works fine then you know it's
something on new computer.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Not sure where to start :(

2018-01-07 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Sun, 2018-01-07 at 01:25 +, jonblauch wrote:
> However, the issue started when I got
> a new computer, so that would be highly coincidental.
> 
Are you sure your music files were correctly installed on the new
computer? The log shows: 

- refusals to handle files because DRM: are the access
  permissions and file ownership correct on these files? 

- play lists pointing to missing music files.

> What should I try next?
> 
Try fixing those problems before rescanning.


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Not sure where to start :(

2018-01-07 Thread Mnyb

alfista wrote: 
> If the player does a complete restart, with "splash screen" and
> everything that would suggest some kind of hardware problem rater than
> server or network problem.
> The power supplies often fail with age and sometimes cause restarts.
> WiFi boards may also cause erratic behaviour.

Also the power connector at the back may become loose , this PC is it
close to SB3 did you move or touch your SB3 ?




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Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4
Misc use: Radio (with battery)
iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Not sure where to start :(

2018-01-06 Thread alfista

If the player does a complete restart, with "splash screen" and
everything that would suggest some kind of hardware problem rater than
server or network problem.
The power supplies often fail with age and sometimes cause restarts.
WiFi boards may also cause erratic behaviour.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Not sure where to start :(

2018-01-06 Thread jonblauch

Mnyb wrote: 
> What kind of squeezebox is this ? If it shuts down and cycles on it’s
> not the server .

Slim Devices.  Squeezebox v3. I updated the firmware.

This is what shows on the information tab of Logitech Media server
Control Panel
Squeezebox Classic 
Player Model: Squeezebox Classic 
Player Type: squeezebox2 
Firmware: 137 

The fact my issues started when I got a new PC leave me a bit skeptical
that it is the hardware. But coincidences do happen.



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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Not sure where to start :(

2018-01-06 Thread Mnyb

jonblauch wrote: 
> Thanks for the response. Always appreciate the amount of community
> involvement.
> 
> So I uninstalled older versions, and installed the new version, and now
> I am back to the problem I was having before.  My squeezebox just shuts
> down while playing a song and cycles back on,  reconnecting, etc..  The
> server log, attached, does not seem to capture anything at the specific
> time stamp.
> 
> I was thinking that it was a network thing, but now I am thinking my
> device may just have gone bad.  However, the issue started when I got a
> new computer, so that would be highly coincidental.
> 
> What should I try next?
> 
> Thanks

What kind of squeezebox is this ? If it shuts down and cycles on it’s
not the server .




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Bedroom/Office: Boom
Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4
Misc use: Radio (with battery)
iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad
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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Not sure where to start :(

2018-01-06 Thread jonblauch

Thanks for the response. Always appreciate the amount of community
involvement.

So I uninstalled older versions, and installed the new version, and now
I am back to the problem I was having before.  My squeezebox just shuts
down while playing a song and cycles back on,  reconnecting, etc..  The
server log, attached, does not seem to capture anything at the specific
time stamp.

I was thinking that it was a network thing, but now I am thinking my
device may just have gone bad.  However, the issue started when I got a
new computer, so that would be highly coincidental.

What should I try next?

Thanks


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Re: [SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Not sure where to start :(

2018-01-06 Thread Man in a van

Well I wouldn't start from here (as the song goes)

I'm thinking Windows

Uninstall all that v7.5.5 stuff, including the bits that you have to do
manually

Download and install 

'http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/7.9/sc/b3228c3/LogitechMediaServer-7.9.1-1515216179.exe
'
(http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/7.9/sc/b3228c3/LogitechMediaServer-7.9.1-1515216179.exe)

Right click on the .exe and install as Administrator, you may need to
add some Microsoft Run time stuff.



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[SlimDevices: SqueezeCenter] Not sure where to start :(

2018-01-06 Thread jonblauch

I have had my SqueezeBox device leveraging LMS for a while. I recently
switched computers and I have not been able to get operational since
that point.   Now I have gotten myself into a state where it will not
scan any files.  Also cannot seem to clear the server log.  I have
attached my logs.

Wondering if it is just time to go buy a Sonos :(


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