Re: [SR-Users] openser as SIP AS in IMS environment...
Am 30.04.2010 22:31, schrieb Jignesh Gandhi: thank you for your reply. Would you know of anything that can be used as a SIP Application Server with capability to do REFER, RE-Invites and Asterisk parse SIP-I payload passed to the server. Not out of the box. But probably you could to this by using the SIP_BODY function https://issues.asterisk.org/view.php?id=15552 and some external script. regards klaus OpenIMS has SIP AS as an external entity. thanks, --Jignesh -Original Message- From: Iñaki Baz Castillo [mailto:i...@aliax.net] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 2:24 PM To: Jignesh Gandhi Cc: us...@lists.kamailio.org Subject: Re: [SR-Users] openser as SIP AS in IMS environment... 2010/4/30 Jignesh Gandhi: Hello All, Can openser be used as a SIP Application Server in an IMS infrastructure ? Should I use Kamailio instead ? By definition a SIP proxy is not a "SIP Application Server"(which in most cases are B2BUA's). However if you mean a "IMS SIP proxy/registrar" then OpenSer/Kamailio could be valid (except for some custom requeriments of IMS). You can take a look to OpenIMS which is OpenSer/Kamailio with some "customization" or new modules designed for IMS. -- Iñaki Baz Castillo ___ SIP Express Router (SER) and Kamailio (OpenSER) - sr-users mailing list sr-users@lists.sip-router.org http://lists.sip-router.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sr-users ___ SIP Express Router (SER) and Kamailio (OpenSER) - sr-users mailing list sr-users@lists.sip-router.org http://lists.sip-router.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sr-users
Re: [SR-Users] openser as SIP AS in IMS environment...
Daniel- > On 4/30/10 10:08 PM, Jeff Brower wrote: >> Daniel- >> >> >>> On 4/30/10 8:24 PM, Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: >>> 2010/4/30 Jignesh Gandhi: > Hello All, > > Can openser be used as a SIP Application Server in an IMS infrastructure ? > > Should I use Kamailio instead ? > > By definition a SIP proxy is not a "SIP Application Server"(which in most cases are B2BUA's). >>> Well, 'SIP proxy is not an SIP application server' is a bit forced. IMO, >>> an application of SIP can be proxying SIP request, while most of the >>> sites define couple of SIP server side entities like proxy, registrar, >>> etc... these are just some types of applications for SIP. >>> >>> On the other hand, Kamailio is more than a proxy and it is in fact a >>> real application server. It cannot be a VoIP application server, >>> >> It can be when combined with rtpproxy (and with accelerator PCI/PCIe card in >> some cases). >> > > right, to some extent you can play with media in conjunction with > rtpproxy -- iirc, you can do some audio playback with latest rtpproxy. > > What would be the accelerator used for? High channel capacity... offload transcoding, encryption (SRTP), content recognition, etc. from rtpproxy+x86. -Jeff >>> since >>> it does not do media processing, but can be a sip signaling application >>> server and it is a lot you can do with signaling only (e.g., messaging, >>> presence, custom communications and notifications). >>> >>> However if you mean a "IMS SIP proxy/registrar" then OpenSer/Kamailio could be valid (except for some custom requeriments of IMS). You can take a look to OpenIMS which is OpenSer/Kamailio with some "customization" or new modules designed for IMS. >>> This is indeed an app to look at, site is http://www.openimscore.org. >>> AFAIK, they updated their code and practically they run same core and >>> common modules as kamailio/ser 3.0 >>> >>> To give the proper answer to the question, then the kind of application >>> wanted to be deployed must be described. >>> >>> And kamailio is just the new name of openser, since there were some >>> trademark issues with openser word. The sourceforge devel project still >>> keeps openser name. Last version released under openser name was 1.3.x, >>> the first under kamailio name was the next one 1.4.0. Version 3.0.x is >>> the last stable one, with lot of enhancements since last version with >>> openser name was released, see here what are the major enhancements >>> coming with every release: >>> http://www.kamailio.org/dokuwiki/doku.php#features >>> >> > > -- > Daniel-Constantin Mierla > * http://www.asipto.com/ > * http://twitter.com/miconda > * http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielconstantinmierla > > ___ SIP Express Router (SER) and Kamailio (OpenSER) - sr-users mailing list sr-users@lists.sip-router.org http://lists.sip-router.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sr-users
Re: [SR-Users] openser as SIP AS in IMS environment...
SEMS? On 04/30/2010 04:31 PM, Jignesh Gandhi wrote: thank you for your reply. Would you know of anything that can be used as a SIP Application Server with capability to do REFER, RE-Invites and parse SIP-I payload passed to the server. OpenIMS has SIP AS as an external entity. thanks, --Jignesh -Original Message- From: Iñaki Baz Castillo [mailto:i...@aliax.net] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 2:24 PM To: Jignesh Gandhi Cc: us...@lists.kamailio.org Subject: Re: [SR-Users] openser as SIP AS in IMS environment... 2010/4/30 Jignesh Gandhi: Hello All, Can openser be used as a SIP Application Server in an IMS infrastructure ? Should I use Kamailio instead ? By definition a SIP proxy is not a "SIP Application Server"(which in most cases are B2BUA's). However if you mean a "IMS SIP proxy/registrar" then OpenSer/Kamailio could be valid (except for some custom requeriments of IMS). You can take a look to OpenIMS which is OpenSer/Kamailio with some "customization" or new modules designed for IMS. -- Iñaki Baz Castillo ___ SIP Express Router (SER) and Kamailio (OpenSER) - sr-users mailing list sr-users@lists.sip-router.org http://lists.sip-router.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sr-users -- Alex Balashov - Principal Evariste Systems LLC 1170 Peachtree Street 12th Floor, Suite 1200 Atlanta, GA 30309 Tel: +1-678-954-0670 Fax: +1-404-961-1892 Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/ ___ SIP Express Router (SER) and Kamailio (OpenSER) - sr-users mailing list sr-users@lists.sip-router.org http://lists.sip-router.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sr-users
Re: [SR-Users] openser as SIP AS in IMS environment...
thank you for your reply. Would you know of anything that can be used as a SIP Application Server with capability to do REFER, RE-Invites and parse SIP-I payload passed to the server. OpenIMS has SIP AS as an external entity. thanks, --Jignesh -Original Message- From: Iñaki Baz Castillo [mailto:i...@aliax.net] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 2:24 PM To: Jignesh Gandhi Cc: us...@lists.kamailio.org Subject: Re: [SR-Users] openser as SIP AS in IMS environment... 2010/4/30 Jignesh Gandhi : > Hello All, > > Can openser be used as a SIP Application Server in an IMS infrastructure ? > > Should I use Kamailio instead ? By definition a SIP proxy is not a "SIP Application Server"(which in most cases are B2BUA's). However if you mean a "IMS SIP proxy/registrar" then OpenSer/Kamailio could be valid (except for some custom requeriments of IMS). You can take a look to OpenIMS which is OpenSer/Kamailio with some "customization" or new modules designed for IMS. -- Iñaki Baz Castillo ___ SIP Express Router (SER) and Kamailio (OpenSER) - sr-users mailing list sr-users@lists.sip-router.org http://lists.sip-router.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sr-users
Re: [SR-Users] openser as SIP AS in IMS environment...
On 4/30/10 10:08 PM, Jeff Brower wrote: Daniel- On 4/30/10 8:24 PM, Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: 2010/4/30 Jignesh Gandhi: Hello All, Can openser be used as a SIP Application Server in an IMS infrastructure ? Should I use Kamailio instead ? By definition a SIP proxy is not a "SIP Application Server"(which in most cases are B2BUA's). Well, 'SIP proxy is not an SIP application server' is a bit forced. IMO, an application of SIP can be proxying SIP request, while most of the sites define couple of SIP server side entities like proxy, registrar, etc... these are just some types of applications for SIP. On the other hand, Kamailio is more than a proxy and it is in fact a real application server. It cannot be a VoIP application server, It can be when combined with rtpproxy (and with accelerator PCI/PCIe card in some cases). right, to some extent you can play with media in conjunction with rtpproxy -- iirc, you can do some audio playback with latest rtpproxy. What would be the accelerator used for? Thanks, Daniel since it does not do media processing, but can be a sip signaling application server and it is a lot you can do with signaling only (e.g., messaging, presence, custom communications and notifications). However if you mean a "IMS SIP proxy/registrar" then OpenSer/Kamailio could be valid (except for some custom requeriments of IMS). You can take a look to OpenIMS which is OpenSer/Kamailio with some "customization" or new modules designed for IMS. This is indeed an app to look at, site is http://www.openimscore.org. AFAIK, they updated their code and practically they run same core and common modules as kamailio/ser 3.0 To give the proper answer to the question, then the kind of application wanted to be deployed must be described. And kamailio is just the new name of openser, since there were some trademark issues with openser word. The sourceforge devel project still keeps openser name. Last version released under openser name was 1.3.x, the first under kamailio name was the next one 1.4.0. Version 3.0.x is the last stable one, with lot of enhancements since last version with openser name was released, see here what are the major enhancements coming with every release: http://www.kamailio.org/dokuwiki/doku.php#features -- Daniel-Constantin Mierla * http://www.asipto.com/ * http://twitter.com/miconda * http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielconstantinmierla ___ SIP Express Router (SER) and Kamailio (OpenSER) - sr-users mailing list sr-users@lists.sip-router.org http://lists.sip-router.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sr-users
Re: [SR-Users] openser as SIP AS in IMS environment...
Daniel- > On 4/30/10 8:24 PM, Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: >> 2010/4/30 Jignesh Gandhi: >> >>> Hello All, >>> >>> Can openser be used as a SIP Application Server in an IMS infrastructure ? >>> >>> Should I use Kamailio instead ? >>> >> >> By definition a SIP proxy is not a "SIP Application Server"(which in >> most cases are B2BUA's). >> > > Well, 'SIP proxy is not an SIP application server' is a bit forced. IMO, > an application of SIP can be proxying SIP request, while most of the > sites define couple of SIP server side entities like proxy, registrar, > etc... these are just some types of applications for SIP. > > On the other hand, Kamailio is more than a proxy and it is in fact a > real application server. It cannot be a VoIP application server, It can be when combined with rtpproxy (and with accelerator PCI/PCIe card in some cases). -Jeff > since > it does not do media processing, but can be a sip signaling application > server and it is a lot you can do with signaling only (e.g., messaging, > presence, custom communications and notifications). > >> However if you mean a "IMS SIP proxy/registrar" then OpenSer/Kamailio >> could be valid (except for some custom requeriments of IMS). You can >> take a look to OpenIMS which is OpenSer/Kamailio with some >> "customization" or new modules designed for IMS. >> > This is indeed an app to look at, site is http://www.openimscore.org. > AFAIK, they updated their code and practically they run same core and > common modules as kamailio/ser 3.0 > > To give the proper answer to the question, then the kind of application > wanted to be deployed must be described. > > And kamailio is just the new name of openser, since there were some > trademark issues with openser word. The sourceforge devel project still > keeps openser name. Last version released under openser name was 1.3.x, > the first under kamailio name was the next one 1.4.0. Version 3.0.x is > the last stable one, with lot of enhancements since last version with > openser name was released, see here what are the major enhancements > coming with every release: > http://www.kamailio.org/dokuwiki/doku.php#features ___ SIP Express Router (SER) and Kamailio (OpenSER) - sr-users mailing list sr-users@lists.sip-router.org http://lists.sip-router.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sr-users
Re: [SR-Users] openser as SIP AS in IMS environment...
Hello, On 4/30/10 8:24 PM, Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: 2010/4/30 Jignesh Gandhi: Hello All, Can openser be used as a SIP Application Server in an IMS infrastructure ? Should I use Kamailio instead ? By definition a SIP proxy is not a "SIP Application Server"(which in most cases are B2BUA's). Well, 'SIP proxy is not an SIP application server' is a bit forced. IMO, an application of SIP can be proxying SIP request, while most of the sites define couple of SIP server side entities like proxy, registrar, etc... these are just some types of applications for SIP. On the other hand, Kamailio is more than a proxy and it is in fact a real application server. It cannot be a VoIP application server, since it does not do media processing, but can be a sip signaling application server and it is a lot you can do with signaling only (e.g., messaging, presence, custom communications and notifications). However if you mean a "IMS SIP proxy/registrar" then OpenSer/Kamailio could be valid (except for some custom requeriments of IMS). You can take a look to OpenIMS which is OpenSer/Kamailio with some "customization" or new modules designed for IMS. This is indeed an app to look at, site is http://www.openimscore.org. AFAIK, they updated their code and practically they run same core and common modules as kamailio/ser 3.0 To give the proper answer to the question, then the kind of application wanted to be deployed must be described. And kamailio is just the new name of openser, since there were some trademark issues with openser word. The sourceforge devel project still keeps openser name. Last version released under openser name was 1.3.x, the first under kamailio name was the next one 1.4.0. Version 3.0.x is the last stable one, with lot of enhancements since last version with openser name was released, see here what are the major enhancements coming with every release: http://www.kamailio.org/dokuwiki/doku.php#features Cheers, Daniel -- Daniel-Constantin Mierla * http://www.asipto.com/ * http://twitter.com/miconda * http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielconstantinmierla ___ SIP Express Router (SER) and Kamailio (OpenSER) - sr-users mailing list sr-users@lists.sip-router.org http://lists.sip-router.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sr-users
Re: [SR-Users] openser as SIP AS in IMS environment...
On 04/30/2010 02:12 PM, Jignesh Gandhi wrote: Hello All, Can openser be used as a SIP Application Server in an IMS infrastructure ? Should I use Kamailio instead ? Jignesh, note that these days when you are talking about Kamailio and OpenSER, they are one and the same. -- Alex Balashov - Principal Evariste Systems LLC 1170 Peachtree Street 12th Floor, Suite 1200 Atlanta, GA 30309 Tel: +1-678-954-0670 Fax: +1-404-961-1892 Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/ ___ SIP Express Router (SER) and Kamailio (OpenSER) - sr-users mailing list sr-users@lists.sip-router.org http://lists.sip-router.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sr-users
Re: [SR-Users] openser as SIP AS in IMS environment...
2010/4/30 Jignesh Gandhi : > Hello All, > > Can openser be used as a SIP Application Server in an IMS infrastructure ? > > Should I use Kamailio instead ? By definition a SIP proxy is not a "SIP Application Server"(which in most cases are B2BUA's). However if you mean a "IMS SIP proxy/registrar" then OpenSer/Kamailio could be valid (except for some custom requeriments of IMS). You can take a look to OpenIMS which is OpenSer/Kamailio with some "customization" or new modules designed for IMS. -- Iñaki Baz Castillo ___ SIP Express Router (SER) and Kamailio (OpenSER) - sr-users mailing list sr-users@lists.sip-router.org http://lists.sip-router.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sr-users
Re: [SR-Users] openser as SIP AS in IMS environment...
Hello All, Can openser be used as a SIP Application Server in an IMS infrastructure ? Should I use Kamailio instead ? thanks, --Jignesh ___ SIP Express Router (SER) and Kamailio (OpenSER) - sr-users mailing list sr-users@lists.sip-router.org http://lists.sip-router.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sr-users
