Drawbar Pulling Competition Results

2003-01-29 Thread Gary 
What about "traction tires"?
Extra weight?
Rack rail?

Gary - Terror Trestle's Aster Alisan shay is enroute finally from Germany to
Eugene, Oregon!
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- Original Message -
From: Phil Paskos
To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 8:57 PM
Subject: Re: Diamondhead Drawbar Pulling Competition Results


Are sanders allowed?  How about Jetex assist?  (do they still make those?)
Sneak a motor drive in the tender?
I knew there was a reason I wanted to go there.
(VBG)  Phil

Diamondhead 2003 Drawbar Pull Results

There were twenty-one locomotives entered in the
drawbar-pulling contest held from 1:30 to 3:30 on Friday and
Saturday afternoons.  There were originally six classes but
we found we needed to add two to make competition fairer.
Classes were as follows:  Class 1 - 4 drivered locomotives,
Class 2 - 6 drivered locomotives, Class 3 - 8 drivered
locomotives, Class 4 - Geared, Class 5 - Heavy Weight
(K-27's and the like), Class 6 - Shays (thought there would
be many Accu Shays to be entered hence the separate class),
Class 0 - 2 drivered locomotives, and Class 1/2 - 1 driver
locomotives.  Class 0 and 1/2 were added as entries came in
that didn't fit the first 6 classes.  Class 6 was combined
with Class 4 as only one Shay was entered.  Here are the
results:

Class 1/2 1 Driver

1st Jim Sanders Steam Powered Tricycle negative
1 inch
2nd no entry
3rd no entry

When the measuring device cable was attached it managed to
move the tricycle backwards from the weight of the cable and
was never able to overcome the horrific strain added by
this.  We need more competition in this category next year.

Class 0 2 Drivers

1st John Clark Emelia  1 oz
2ndBill Shipp  deWinton3/4 oz
3rd Peter FoleydeWinton5/8 oz

There was another deWinton and a Grasshopper also entered.

Class 1 4 Drivers

1st John Woodroofe Riesa   4 3/8 lbs
2nd John Woodroofe Samson  4 lbs even
3rd Chris Wolcott  Ruby1 3/4 lb

There were seven entries and the Cheddar locomotives proved
to VERY powerful.  There were several Rubys and Millies
entered.

Class 2 6 Drivers

1st Peter OelschlegerGungadin 4 3/8 Lbs
2ndChris Wolcott Lady Ann 1 3/4 lbs
3rd no entry

Only two entries and the Class 1 winner pulled the same
weight with two less drivers.  The rest of you six drivered
owners need to correct this next year.

Class 3 8 Drivers

1st Steve HeseltonC-16   5 lbs even
2nd Arthur Cohen  C-16   2 1/2 lbs
3rd no entry

I guess you C-16 owners were caught napping or something as
there was a lack of competition in this class.

Class 4 Geared

1st Alvin Sadler  WM Shay   5 3/4 lbs
2nd Jim Sanders   MiCal Shay5 5/8 lbs
3rdJoel Neshkin   Heisler 4 1/4 lbs

I was disappointed in the lack of Shay entries.  I had two I
could have entered and won with but I know there would have
been a cry of foul as the event organizer.

Class 5 Heavy Weight

No entries.  I offered to make special times available for
this class due to the difficulties of bringing entries to
the line.  It would have been interesting to compare DJB's
and Accucraft's K-27's pulling power.

Class 6 Shay

Combined into the geared class and eliminated for next year
due to a lack of interest.


The next drawbar-pulling contest will be at the Midwest
Steam-up this May in St. Louis.  I will again have the
electronic (accurate to .1 oz) track in operation there.
Start tuning your locomotives now.  To date no one has
displayed any initiative to bend the rules like the NASCAR
and Dragster people do.  Seriously it's a lot of fun to see
what your locomotive is capable of actually pulling and then
comparing it to other models of similar configuration.

Bruce Gathman
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Diamondhead Drawbar Pulling Competition Results

2003-01-29 Thread Phil Paskos 
Are sanders allowed?  How about Jetex assist?  (do they still make those?)
Sneak a motor drive in the tender?
I knew there was a reason I wanted to go there.
(VBG)  Phil

Diamondhead 2003 Drawbar Pull Results

There were twenty-one locomotives entered in the
drawbar-pulling contest held from 1:30 to 3:30 on Friday and
Saturday afternoons.  There were originally six classes but
we found we needed to add two to make competition fairer.
Classes were as follows:  Class 1 - 4 drivered locomotives,
Class 2 - 6 drivered locomotives, Class 3 - 8 drivered
locomotives, Class 4 - Geared, Class 5 - Heavy Weight
(K-27's and the like), Class 6 - Shays (thought there would
be many Accu Shays to be entered hence the separate class),
Class 0 - 2 drivered locomotives, and Class 1/2 - 1 driver
locomotives.  Class 0 and 1/2 were added as entries came in
that didn't fit the first 6 classes.  Class 6 was combined
with Class 4 as only one Shay was entered.  Here are the
results:

Class 1/2 1 Driver

1st Jim Sanders Steam Powered Tricycle negative
1 inch
2nd no entry
3rd no entry

When the measuring device cable was attached it managed to
move the tricycle backwards from the weight of the cable and
was never able to overcome the horrific strain added by
this.  We need more competition in this category next year.

Class 0 2 Drivers

1st John Clark Emelia  1 oz
2ndBill Shipp  deWinton3/4 oz
3rd Peter FoleydeWinton5/8 oz

There was another deWinton and a Grasshopper also entered.

Class 1 4 Drivers

1st John Woodroofe Riesa   4 3/8 lbs
2nd John Woodroofe Samson  4 lbs even
3rd Chris Wolcott  Ruby1 3/4 lb

There were seven entries and the Cheddar locomotives proved
to VERY powerful.  There were several Rubys and Millies
entered.

Class 2 6 Drivers

1st Peter OelschlegerGungadin 4 3/8 Lbs
2ndChris Wolcott Lady Ann 1 3/4 lbs
3rd no entry

Only two entries and the Class 1 winner pulled the same
weight with two less drivers.  The rest of you six drivered
owners need to correct this next year.

Class 3 8 Drivers

1st Steve HeseltonC-16   5 lbs even
2nd Arthur Cohen  C-16   2 1/2 lbs
3rd no entry

I guess you C-16 owners were caught napping or something as
there was a lack of competition in this class.

Class 4 Geared

1st Alvin Sadler  WM Shay   5 3/4 lbs
2nd Jim Sanders   MiCal Shay5 5/8 lbs
3rdJoel Neshkin   Heisler 4 1/4 lbs

I was disappointed in the lack of Shay entries.  I had two I
could have entered and won with but I know there would have
been a cry of foul as the event organizer.

Class 5 Heavy Weight

No entries.  I offered to make special times available for
this class due to the difficulties of bringing entries to
the line.  It would have been interesting to compare DJB's
and Accucraft's K-27's pulling power.

Class 6 Shay

Combined into the geared class and eliminated for next year
due to a lack of interest.


The next drawbar-pulling contest will be at the Midwest
Steam-up this May in St. Louis.  I will again have the
electronic (accurate to .1 oz) track in operation there.
Start tuning your locomotives now.  To date no one has
displayed any initiative to bend the rules like the NASCAR
and Dragster people do.  Seriously it's a lot of fun to see
what your locomotive is capable of actually pulling and then
comparing it to other models of similar configuration.

Bruce Gathman
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Midwest Steamup May 4 - 6

2003-01-29 Thread Mike Eorgoff 
It really is May 2 - 4.  Been fighting with systems all day.

Mike

- Original Message -
From: "Mike Eorgoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 8:28 PM
Subject: Midwest Steamup May 4 - 6


> The time for the Midwest Small Scale Steamup is once again approaching.
The
> third annual event will occur Friday May 2 through Sunday May 4, 2003 at
the
> Holiday Inn Select in St. Peters, Missouri.  St. Peters is a western
suburb
> of St. Louis, and provides a very nice location in an area that has many
> other things to do and see.
>
> Check the following web site for more information and registration form.
> http://www.geocities.com/teaton63376/
>
>
> Mike Eorgoff
> near Chicago
>
>
>

Midwest Steamup May 4 - 6

2003-01-29 Thread Mike Eorgoff 
The time for the Midwest Small Scale Steamup is once again approaching.  The
third annual event will occur Friday May 2 through Sunday May 4, 2003 at the
Holiday Inn Select in St. Peters, Missouri.  St. Peters is a western suburb
of St. Louis, and provides a very nice location in an area that has many
other things to do and see.

Check the following web site for more information and registration form.
http://www.geocities.com/teaton63376/


Mike Eorgoff
near Chicago

Diamondhead Drawbar Pulling Competition Results

2003-01-29 Thread Bruce Gathman 
Diamondhead 2003 Drawbar Pull Results

There were twenty-one locomotives entered in the
drawbar-pulling contest held from 1:30 to 3:30 on Friday and
Saturday afternoons.  There were originally six classes but
we found we needed to add two to make competition fairer.
Classes were as follows:  Class 1 - 4 drivered locomotives,
Class 2 - 6 drivered locomotives, Class 3 - 8 drivered
locomotives, Class 4 - Geared, Class 5 - Heavy Weight
(K-27's and the like), Class 6 - Shays (thought there would
be many Accu Shays to be entered hence the separate class),
Class 0 - 2 drivered locomotives, and Class 1/2 - 1 driver
locomotives.  Class 0 and 1/2 were added as entries came in
that didn't fit the first 6 classes.  Class 6 was combined
with Class 4 as only one Shay was entered.  Here are the
results:

Class 1/2 1 Driver

1st Jim Sanders Steam Powered Tricycle negative
1 inch
2nd no entry
3rd no entry

When the measuring device cable was attached it managed to
move the tricycle backwards from the weight of the cable and
was never able to overcome the horrific strain added by
this.  We need more competition in this category next year.

Class 0 2 Drivers

1st John Clark Emelia  1 oz
2ndBill Shipp  deWinton3/4 oz
3rd Peter FoleydeWinton5/8 oz

There was another deWinton and a Grasshopper also entered.

Class 1 4 Drivers

1st John Woodroofe Riesa   4 3/8 lbs
2nd John Woodroofe Samson  4 lbs even
3rd Chris Wolcott  Ruby1 3/4 lb

There were seven entries and the Cheddar locomotives proved
to VERY powerful.  There were several Rubys and Millies
entered. 

Class 2 6 Drivers

1st Peter OelschlegerGungadin 4 3/8 Lbs
2ndChris Wolcott Lady Ann 1 3/4 lbs
3rd no entry

Only two entries and the Class 1 winner pulled the same
weight with two less drivers.  The rest of you six drivered
owners need to correct this next year.

Class 3 8 Drivers

1st Steve HeseltonC-16   5 lbs even
2nd Arthur Cohen  C-16   2 1/2 lbs
3rd no entry

I guess you C-16 owners were caught napping or something as
there was a lack of competition in this class.

Class 4 Geared

1st Alvin Sadler  WM Shay   5 3/4 lbs
2nd Jim Sanders   MiCal Shay5 5/8 lbs
3rdJoel Neshkin   Heisler   4 1/4 lbs

I was disappointed in the lack of Shay entries.  I had two I
could have entered and won with but I know there would have
been a cry of foul as the event organizer.

Class 5 Heavy Weight

No entries.  I offered to make special times available for
this class due to the difficulties of bringing entries to
the line.  It would have been interesting to compare DJB's
and Accucraft's K-27's pulling power.  

Class 6 Shay

Combined into the geared class and eliminated for next year
due to a lack of interest.


The next drawbar-pulling contest will be at the Midwest
Steam-up this May in St. Louis.  I will again have the
electronic (accurate to .1 oz) track in operation there.
Start tuning your locomotives now.  To date no one has
displayed any initiative to bend the rules like the NASCAR
and Dragster people do.  Seriously it's a lot of fun to see
what your locomotive is capable of actually pulling and then
comparing it to other models of similar configuration.

Bruce Gathman
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Midwest Steamup May 2 - 4

2003-01-29 Thread Mike Eorgoff 
The time for the Midwest Small Scale Steamup is once again approaching.  The
third annual event will occur Friday May 2 through Sunday May 4, 2003 at the
Holiday Inn Select in St. Peters, Missouri.  St. Peters is a western suburb
of St. Louis, and provides a very nice location in an area that has many
other things to do and see.

Check the following web site for more information and registration form.
http://www.geocities.com/teaton63376/


Mike Eorgoff
near Chicago

Re: Diamondhead wrapup in PC format?

2003-01-29 Thread Mike Eorgoff 
I would like to get the Addendum.

Mike Eorgoff

- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: Diamondhead wrapup in PC format?


> Go to the bottom of Jim Pitts' page -- where DH photos are located -- at
the
> end of photos is the complete wrap-up summary from Jerry.
> <>
>
> Jim Crabb
> Seabrook
>

Re: Diamondhead wrapup in PC format?

2003-01-29 Thread SALTYCRABB 
Go to the bottom of Jim Pitts' page -- where DH photos are located -- at the 
end of photos is the complete wrap-up summary from Jerry. 
<>

Jim Crabb
Seabrook

Diamondhead wrapup in PC format?

2003-01-29 Thread Mike Eorgoff 
Has anyone translated the Diamondhead wrap-up and addendum from Jerry Reshew
into PC compatible format?
Could I get a copy please.

Mike Eorgoff

February steamup

2003-01-29 Thread Clark Lord 
Howdy guys and gals:

How time flies.  This Saturday will be our regular monthly steamup.  The weather
promises to be outstanding.  Lou and I will be going to breakfast @ 7 am if you
want to join us.  I expect we'll be back home by 7:45 or so.

Now is the time to mark your calendars for upcoming events.

First up is my regional steamup May 16, 17 & 18, 2003 here at my house.  Three
days of non-stop fun and fellowship.  Please RSVP if you are coming.

Next is the National Summer Steamup July 17, 18, 19 & 20, 2003 in Sacramento
CA.  I have fliers with all the details if you want to go.  Additional details
can be found at http://www.summersteamup.com/  This event is being put on by
Steam Events LLC, a Nevada Company.  Dave Hottmann and I are going and maybe you
would like to join us.

And last is my regional steamup October 10, 11 & 12, 2003.  Again please RSVP.

Of course we'll still have the monthly steamups on the first Saturday of each
month in addition to the regional event.  

All the events at my house are Pacific Coast Live Steamer (PCLS) events.

Now for those of you who are into large scale steam, Train Mountain will be
hosting a international steamup for 7 1/2 inch gauge engines mid June 2003.  It
is located in Southern Oregon near Chiloquin, mid-way between Klamath Falls and
Crater Lake National Park on over 2000 acres of Ponderosa Pine forest. Train
Mountain has over 22 actual miles of track with first class facilities.  It is
huge.  The big meet is June 21-29, 2003.  Details can be found at
http://www.trainmountain.org/ .

That's a lot of action I think.  Consider attending the NSS 03 event in
Sacramento.  We will have 4 tracks available for steaming 24 hours a day for
four days.  All the West Coast experts will be attending.  You can get answers
to any of your engine questions.  There will be a large number of vendors, the
guys you see advertise it the magazines.  Try it, you'll like it.

Clark Lord
Las Vegas Live Steamers (Gauge One)
1-800-578-9639

ps I apologize if you get multiple copies of this message.  I know you will
understand and can operate the delete key as needed.  :)