Re: Can anyone identify this Accucraft engine?

2003-07-11 Thread Brian Scott
Thanks, Tom. I'll steam it this weekend and see if it runs as good as it
looks. Weather permitting.

ttfn
Brian

> Lovely model engine, there.   As to your queries:  Baldwin used crimson
lake
> for a cab color.  All the D&RG C-16 photos I have seen have sand pipes.
If
> it looks like RGS  No. 9 then that is good as both were Baldwin C-16s.
It
> is perfectly stock, as far as I can see, and a good model of a c-16, too.
> I'd be proud of it.
>
> Tom  Leaton
 


Re: Can anyone identify this Accucraft engine?

2003-07-11 Thread Brian Scott
Thanks for the reply, Vance. And I'm familiar with your product line. I did
such a great job with your pilot for my Ida that I thought the cab would be
a cinch. Suffice to say I need some more woodworking practice before I try
it on the C-16.

ttfn
Brian

> What you have is the original, as-built version of the C-16,
> characterized by the fluted domes, diamond stack, drop-shadow
> lettering on the tender, long pilot, etc.  It looks dead stock to me. Mess
> with it only if you must.  There's a photo of mine, for comparison, on
> my web site's main page.
>
> (Hint: If you do feel the need to mess with it, I make laser-cut
> replacement cab and pilot kits for it.  See link.)
>
> best regards,
>   -Vance-
 


Re: Can anyone identify this Accucraft engine?

2003-07-11 Thread tom leaton
Vance-
What you say sounds right.  I have compared a photo of the accucraft loco in 
RGS paint with one in the red cab version.   There seems to be  a 
difference.   I think it is an illusion caused by the colors and camera 
angles.  The black RGS engine deceptively looks like it has a bigger tender 
and boiler.  I attribute this to a) a different camera perspective and lens 
length, and b) the metallic paint on the boiler makes it look just a little 
smaller.   That is my guess. ( I like both )
Tom

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Re: Can anyone identify this Accucraft engine?

2003-07-11 Thread Vance Bass
> Baldwin used crimson lake for a cab color.

But not until some years after the 42 was built, and only if the tender 
was painted lake, too.  Lake was more of a brown with slightly maroon 
tint, rather than the somewhat lurid maroon on the Accucraft cab.  So, 
the cab should be black to match the tender, per Baldwin practice, but 
if you want lake you should mix one part Tuscan red to two parts 
black.  This is all from Jim Willke, a historian who specializes in 
reconstructing the paint schemes of 19th century locomotives.  (He 
did the color schemes on the locos at Promontory Point National 
Historical Monument, as well as much work at the Calif. State RR 
Museum.)


-vance-

"Nothing is itself without everything else." -- Brian Swimme & 
Thomas Berry
 


Re: Can anyone identify this Accucraft engine?

2003-07-10 Thread tom leaton


Brian==

Lovely model engine, there.   As to your queries:  Baldwin used crimson lake 
for a cab color.  All the D&RG C-16 photos I have seen have sand pipes.   If 
it looks like RGS  No. 9 then that is good as both were Baldwin C-16s.   It 
is perfectly stock, as far as I can see, and a good model of a c-16, too.   
I'd be proud of it.

Tom  Leaton

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Re: Can anyone identify this Accucraft engine?

2003-07-10 Thread Kevin Strong
Is that Vance Bass saying "mess with it only if you must?" You're not 
turning into a collector, are you??? (Must be the heat...) Certainly, 
there is an implied appreciation of history, but if it's not what you 
want, change it. I've got two locomotives that if left untouched would 
have "collector" value, but they weren't what I wanted. Now, they are. 
Will they make me rich when I go to sell them? No. However, since I put 
the time to make them what I want, I have no incentive to sell them. 
They're worth far more to me now than they ever would be as a 
"collector's piece."

The live steam hobby is perhaps at its most creative point ever on this 
side of the pond. No more are people just running what is commercially 
available. Modifications run the gamut from a simple coat of paint all 
the way to tearing everything apart and rebuilding it in a different 
form, if not completely scratchbuilding it. What's more, the price of 
the locomotive is having less and less of an effect on the amount of 
modifications. Granted, no one's tearing apart an Aster Big Boy...yet... 
but we are seeing some of the "cheaper" $3,000 asters being modified and 
kitbashed.

Moral of this missive, don't be afraid to take what you have and make it 
what you want. There's enough experience on this list to get you over 
any hump you may encounter along the way.

Later,

K



Re: Can anyone identify this Accucraft engine?

2003-07-10 Thread Vance Bass
Brian,

What you have is the original, as-built version of the C-16, 
characterized by the fluted domes, diamond stack, drop-shadow 
lettering on the tender, long pilot, etc.  It looks dead stock to me. Mess 
with it only if you must.  There's a photo of mine, for comparison, on 
my web site's main page.

(Hint: If you do feel the need to mess with it, I make laser-cut 
replacement cab and pilot kits for it.  See link.)

best regards,
  -Vance-

Vance Bass
FH&PB Railroad Supply Co.
6933 Cherry Hills Loop NE
Albuquerque, NM 87111 USA
http://www.nmia.com/~vrbass/fhpb/
 


Can anyone identify this Accucraft engine?

2003-07-10 Thread Brian Scott
Hello fellow listers.

I've been lurking on this group for about a year now and have learned many
things. Mostly that there's a lot to learn. I'm exiting lurk mode with an
announcement and a question.
Firstly, the Copperhead & Prickly Pear RR is a reality. (It was going to be
the Copper Ridge & Prickly Pear RR but the acronym didn't look good.) I've
just finished laying the last piece of track and will post pics on my
website on Sunday. For anyone interested.
Secondly, like the subject line says, I just got an Accucraft
live steam D&RGW C-16 through an online supplier and it doesn't look right.
To me, that is. If anyone here would care to drop by
http://home.cogeco.ca/~scott3013/  and let me know what this is I would rest
easier.

TIA
and I'll be steaming soon.

Brian Scott