RE: OT: RE RE etc. Steamup timing WAS Re: PCLS web site up ...

[Geoff Spenceley]

Susan,

Go back to sslive steam files--messages from Michael Martin and Mike
Chaney--Feb 18/00. Let me know if you can't find these and I'll copy for
you,

Geoff.
>
>
>P.S.
>Does anyone have the formula for calculating the "tractive effort" for a
>live steam locomotive?
>S.
>
>


 

RE: OT: RE RE etc. Steamup timing WAS Re: PCLS web site up ...

[Susan Parker]

Hi.

The month of May would be better for us as we are planning to come over to 
the States during that time next year. We are already planning on staying 
in Sacramento for a few days (research at the CSRRM), plus I want to crawl 
around a few locos with a measuring tape, so the opportunity to combine it 
with a steamup would be most excellent.

We were in Sacramento last year's July ('99) and it was very hot (for us 
Brits). So much so we had to buy hats! (I got a nice Panama from a Front St 
store). Indoors was okay though.

Best wishes,
Susan.


P.S.
Does anyone have the formula for calculating the "tractive effort" for a 
live steam locomotive?
S.

 

Re: OT: RE RE etc. Steamup timing WAS Re: PCLS web site up ...

[M. Paterson]

Personal comment.  Thank you for the dialog over this
matter. Points of consideration were enlightening. As
to date, July is not a viable month for me, May is.
While only able to attend for a part of one day at the
Pleasanton venue, I do hope to spend at least two days
in 2001.  I look forward to an event in Sacramento and
like others will spend some time at the Railroad
museum which I tend to visit bi-annually.
mp

--- Richard Finlayson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >So lets not shoot down the idea until we have heard
> the whole story.
> 
> 
> I hope I'm not perceived to be in that camp. Not the
> case. Also, 
> there is no "whole story" yet hence the requirement
> for feedback on 
> ideas to improve the event. I personally think that
> Sacramento will 
> make a better venue for the event than the bay area
> just on the 
> airport/travel front, among other reasons.
> 
> Also, the operation assumption is that the event
> moves, with 
> Sacramento the most likely destination. I know for a
> fact that we do 
> not have a suitable bay area venue available to us
> this coming 
> spring. I should have make this assumption clear in
> my list of 
> pros/cons.
> 
> Dave brings up a good point; it was my understanding
> in conversations 
> with Kevin that the venue he found is equally
> available/viable in May 
> or July.  That's an important point to clarify.
> 
> Grover, who's whining? I miss your point. To the
> point; does it 
> matter to you if the event is in May or July?
> 
> Finally, you will likely agree with me that in many
> cases the written 
> word does not convey the meaning as well as a real
> conversation with 
> all the verbal/non-verbal cues that go with it. Let
> me state out 
> loud: I will completely support of any decisions
> that are made 
> relative to the steamup by PCLS and Kevin El
> Presidente.  I am 
> extremely interested in seeing a major event on the
> west coast that 
> is sustainable for decades; I've invested time and
> money to try to 
> help make such a thing happen.  I have opinions and
> will express them 
> but when decisions are made and it comes down to
> making this event 
> successful I will be there with full support. I
> can't wait to attend 
> the steamup in attendee/volunteer mode and spend
> more time with my 
> friends at the event!
> 
> My next step is to contact all of the 2000 NSS
> attendees and let them 
> know that if they care one way or the other about
> dates to contact 
> Kevin or myself so that the feedback can be
> considered.
> 
> Later!
> 
> -Richard
> 
> ==
> Richard Finlayson
> 
> Check out:  http://www.steamup.com "Steam In
> The Garden Online" 


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Re: OT: RE RE etc. Steamup timing WAS Re: PCLS web site up ...

[David M. Cole]

At 9:47 AM -0700 8/30/00, Richard Finlayson wrote:
>Finally, you will likely agree with me that in many cases the written
>word does not convey the meaning as well as a real conversation with
>all the verbal/non-verbal cues that go with it.

Agreed. Having spoken to Richard about this previously, I should have
pointed out that he is probably the first one willing to make compromises
on this issue.

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OT: RE RE etc. Steamup timing WAS Re: PCLS web site up ...

[Richard Finlayson]

>
>
>So lets not shoot down the idea until we have heard the whole story.


I hope I'm not perceived to be in that camp. Not the case. Also, 
there is no "whole story" yet hence the requirement for feedback on 
ideas to improve the event. I personally think that Sacramento will 
make a better venue for the event than the bay area just on the 
airport/travel front, among other reasons.

Also, the operation assumption is that the event moves, with 
Sacramento the most likely destination. I know for a fact that we do 
not have a suitable bay area venue available to us this coming 
spring. I should have make this assumption clear in my list of 
pros/cons.

Dave brings up a good point; it was my understanding in conversations 
with Kevin that the venue he found is equally available/viable in May 
or July.  That's an important point to clarify.

Grover, who's whining? I miss your point. To the point; does it 
matter to you if the event is in May or July?

Finally, you will likely agree with me that in many cases the written 
word does not convey the meaning as well as a real conversation with 
all the verbal/non-verbal cues that go with it. Let me state out 
loud: I will completely support of any decisions that are made 
relative to the steamup by PCLS and Kevin El Presidente.  I am 
extremely interested in seeing a major event on the west coast that 
is sustainable for decades; I've invested time and money to try to 
help make such a thing happen.  I have opinions and will express them 
but when decisions are made and it comes down to making this event 
successful I will be there with full support. I can't wait to attend 
the steamup in attendee/volunteer mode and spend more time with my 
friends at the event!

My next step is to contact all of the 2000 NSS attendees and let them 
know that if they care one way or the other about dates to contact 
Kevin or myself so that the feedback can be considered.

Later!

-Richard

==
Richard Finlayson

Check out:  http://www.steamup.com "Steam In The Garden Online"