Re: Pic of the New Accucraft Shay
Hello Everyone, Thanks for the information on the projected price of the Shay. Sounds like another engine that will lend itself very well to bashing. YEE-HAW! Pass the saw! Later, Trent P.S. - Tom and Kevin: There's you another Southern word (YEE-HAW) to work on for the next DH.
Re: Pic of the New Accucraft Shay
Regarding the new Accucraft Shay: Having seen the prototype a few weeks ago at the BAGRS show I can, without a doubt, tell you that it is worth the asking price. It is not a simple little 0-4-0 like the Ruby. It has a real "T" or "boot" style boiler which is more costly to produce than the standard type as used on the Ruby. The crank shaft is also more costly to build. As previously mentioned the bevel gears also represent more cost on the makers part as do the UV joints required to transmit the power to the trucks. I beleave that this Shay represents excellent value and should be selling like hot cakes on a cold morning as soon as they are available. GaryB
RE: Pic of the New Accucraft Shay
> There are far better and more detailed engines available in the $1200 - $1400 > range than this shay! I'm curious which ones you're thinking of (esp. the geared ones, which require a lot more precision work on the trucks). > Of course, this is all speculation (and rumor mongering) that the shay is > based on the basic design of the Ruby! It uses the cylinders from the Ruby, but beyond that it seems to be a totally new design. Leaving aside the issue of manufacturing tolerances, the basic Ruby [cylinder] design seems to me a very good one. It's inexpensive to manufacture, it's easy to adjust and it seems to work well when the tolerances are right. But they may be running into the same limit I found with my "budget" boxcar kit. The basics of any product will cost about the same to produce, and the savings in leaving off details are surprisingly inconsequential. I guess the big question is, "Did they get the basic dimensions right, so you can turn it into a detailed scale model?" regards, -vance- Vance Bass Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA Small-scale live steam resources: http://www.nmia.com/~vrbass
RE: Pic of the New Accucraft Shay
Tony, You are probably correct about the majority of them being kit-bashed, however, with the lack of detail and the reported "Ruby" basic design it is built on, how will they justify a price tag of $1300? I will have to think long and hard about this one before I commit. If it were say between $700 and $900. Sign me up today! There are far better and more detailed engines available in the $1200 - $1400 range than this shay! Of course, this is all speculation (and rumor mongering) that the shay is based on the basic design of the Ruby! If it isn't true, then maybe it will be a winner! Chuck Walters - President Central New York Large Scale Railway Society http://home.twcny.rr.com/cnylsrs "Ten-foot modelers rule" -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Anthony Dixon Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 11:40 PM To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam Subject: Re: Pic of the New Accucraft Shay Hi Guys, At the recent Bay Area Garden Society,s Steamers convention in Hayward, Ca. Accucraft,s had all their engines on display. The only price list they had was showing approx $1350 for the Shay, with a show special on pre-orders at $1250. You are correct about lack of detailing, it is very basic. But you get what you pay for, and probably >80% will be kit bashed/modified anyway. Therefore it makes a good basic engine for this. (Performance is another issue. We did not see one running). Tony D. At 12:58 PM 4/6/01 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >I 'heard' $1300. Don't quote me on that though. ;] > >Trot, the fox who wanna shay! > >On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Trent Dowler wrote: > > > Has anyone heard a projected price for the Shay? Nice looking engine, > but it > > doesn't appear to be detailed to the point that it demands a high price. > > > > Later, > > Trent > > > /\_/\TrotFox\ Always remember, >( o o ) AKA Landon Solomon \ "There is a > >\./< [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ third alternative." >
Re: Pic of the New Accucraft Shay
Their Site lists a pre-production price of $1,399.00. Phil.P. Reading,PA. > Has anyone heard a projected price for the Shay? Nice looking engine, but it > doesn't appear to be detailed to the point that it demands a high price. > > Later, > Trent > > > "Charles W. Walters" wrote: > > > A Picture and description of the new Accucraft Shay has been posted on their > > web site. Expected delivery, Fall 2001. > >
Re: Pic of the New Accucraft Shay
Hi Guys, At the recent Bay Area Garden Society,s Steamers convention in Hayward, Ca. Accucraft,s had all their engines on display. The only price list they had was showing approx $1350 for the Shay, with a show special on pre-orders at $1250. You are correct about lack of detailing, it is very basic. But you get what you pay for, and probably >80% will be kit bashed/modified anyway. Therefore it makes a good basic engine for this. (Performance is another issue. We did not see one running). Tony D. At 12:58 PM 4/6/01 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >I 'heard' $1300. Don't quote me on that though. ;] > >Trot, the fox who wanna shay! > >On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Trent Dowler wrote: > > > Has anyone heard a projected price for the Shay? Nice looking engine, > but it > > doesn't appear to be detailed to the point that it demands a high price. > > > > Later, > > Trent > > > /\_/\TrotFox\ Always remember, >( o o ) AKA Landon Solomon \ "There is a > >\./< [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ third alternative." >
Re: Pic of the New Accucraft Shay
In a message dated 04/06/2001 12:52:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Has anyone heard a projected price for the Shay? Nice looking engine, but it doesn't appear to be detailed to the point that it demands a high price. >> 1,300 List with discounts running it down to around 1100. Rog
Re: Pic of the New Accucraft Shay
Discussed price is in the $1300 - $1400 range for a one up. Price will vary depending upond dealer. There also has been discussion on this thread of a group buy through a single point that could reduce the price. mp --- Trent Dowler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Has anyone heard a projected price for the Shay? > Nice looking engine, but it > doesn't appear to be detailed to the point that it > demands a high price. > > Later, > Trent > > > "Charles W. Walters" wrote: > > > A Picture and description of the new Accucraft > Shay has been posted on their > > web site. Expected delivery, Fall 2001. > __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: Pic of the New Accucraft Shay
I 'heard' $1300. Don't quote me on that though. ;] Trot, the fox who wanna shay! On Fri, 6 Apr 2001, Trent Dowler wrote: > Has anyone heard a projected price for the Shay? Nice looking engine, but it > doesn't appear to be detailed to the point that it demands a high price. > > Later, > Trent /\_/\TrotFox\ Always remember, ( o o ) AKA Landon Solomon \ "There is a >\./< [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ third alternative."
Re: Pic of the New Accucraft Shay
Has anyone heard a projected price for the Shay? Nice looking engine, but it doesn't appear to be detailed to the point that it demands a high price. Later, Trent "Charles W. Walters" wrote: > A Picture and description of the new Accucraft Shay has been posted on their > web site. Expected delivery, Fall 2001.
Pic of the New Accucraft Shay
Hi Everyone, A Picture and description of the new Accucraft Shay has been posted on their web site. Expected delivery, Fall 2001. Here is the link: http://www.accucraft.com/pg-77202.htm Chuck Walters - President Central New York Large Scale Railway Society http://home.twcny.rr.com/cnylsrs "Ten-foot modelers rule"
Pic of the New Accucraft Shay
Hi Everyone, A Picture and description of the new Accucraft Shay has been posted on their web site. Expected delivery, Fall 2001. Here is the link: http://www.accucraft.com/pg-77202.htm Chuck Walters - President Central New York Large Scale Railway Society http://home.twcny.rr.com/cnylsrs "Ten-foot modelers rule"
