Re: Accucraft and Aster surveys

2003-03-16 Thread Harry Wade
At 08:33 AM 3/16/03 -0800, you wrote:
What . . . products/features would Accucraft (or Aster) need to offer to
induce you to buy one of their products? 

 They already know the answer to that question . . . . MY favorite
locomotive, finely engineered, with detail rendered at or near museum
quality, in the fuel of my choice, for no more money than I can
successfully hide from or explain away to my spouse.  :-)

Regards,
Harry
 


Re: Accucraft and Aster surveys

2003-03-16 Thread Jeff Runge
One more observation, Aster productions sell out in a relative shot
time,with one exception, the CS mogul, This was narrow gauge  gas fired.
Pruduced in 1991 with a total production of 480 units, and they are still
avalible new from aster dealers. Thats a very slow mover! It was 11 years
before offering another gas fired engine, and it is the JNR B20  an 0-4-0
offered in 2002 ith a total production of 200 units. Aster has produced
almost 60 different engines, many were offered in 2,3 different versions.
i.e.: USRA Mikado ,black or green, : Jumbo,in LNWR black,LMS red, LMS black.
That is to say  Accucraft would count all K- 27 as One and all C-16 as One .
 I have never heard any production numbers for Accucraft or Round House, is
this information available? I would think Accucraft would have to have good
production numbers to support their low prices.
Thanks
Jeff in NC
 


Re: Accucraft and Aster surveys

2003-03-16 Thread Jeff Runge
Great answer Harry!
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 At 08:33 AM 3/16/03 -0800, you wrote:
 What . . . products/features would Accucraft (or Aster) need to offer to
 induce you to buy one of their products? 
 
  They already know the answer to that question . . . . MY favorite
 locomotive, finely engineered, with detail rendered at or near museum
 quality, in the fuel of my choice, for no more money than I can
 successfully hide from or explain away to my spouse.  :-)
 
 Regards,
 Harry
 
 


RE: Accucraft and Aster surveys

2003-03-16 Thread XXYZ
Harry,

Where can I get one and when. I want to give someone a deposit ;-)

Ken

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 To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam
 Subject: Re: Accucraft and Aster surveys
 
 
 At 08:33 AM 3/16/03 -0800, you wrote:
 What . . . products/features would Accucraft (or Aster) need to offer to
 induce you to buy one of their products? 
 
  They already know the answer to that question . . . . MY favorite
 locomotive, finely engineered, with detail rendered at or near museum
 quality, in the fuel of my choice, for no more money than I can
 successfully hide from or explain away to my spouse.  :-)
 
 Regards,
 Harry
  
 
 


Re: Accucraft and Aster surveys

2003-03-16 Thread Harry Wade
At 12:10 PM 3/16/03 -0500, you wrote:
Great answer Harry!

   Callin' em as I see'um Jeff.
 


Re: Accucraft and Aster surveys

2003-03-16 Thread TrotFox Greyfoot
That's about $5!

No, I didn't leave out any 0's...  };]

Trot, the budgeted, fox...

On Sun, 16 Mar 2003, Harry Wade wrote:

  They already know the answer to that question . . . . MY favorite
 locomotive, finely engineered, with detail rendered at or near museum
 quality, in the fuel of my choice, for no more money than I can
 successfully hide from or explain away to my spouse.  :-)

 Regards,
 Harry


 /\_/\TrotFox\ Always remember,
( o o )  AKA Landon Solomon   \ There is a
 \./ [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ third alternative. 


Re: Accucraft and Aster surveys

2003-03-16 Thread Harry Wade
At 12:07 PM 3/16/03 -0500, you wrote:
One more observation, Aster productions sell out in a relative short
time, with one exception, the CS mogul, This was narrow gauge  gas fired.

Jeff,
   That wasn't always the case, and IMHO gauge and fuel rarely have
anything to do with it.  The Schools for instance took forever to sell
because early in their history Aster grossly overestimated the potential
market for such a model.  It took years, and becomming known as a
bulletproof runner, for it to finally sell out.  In the US, when Ga1 was
still just a curiosity, if you were far enought ahead of the curve you
could get a steal of a deal from hobby shops anxious to unload them.  To a
somewhat lesser extent I think the Pannier was another example.  They sold
OK, but didn't go all that quickly, until they became known as good
reliable runners.  But those were international market items.  The CS
Mogul by all indications should have sold out in a flash - good looking,
well built, well detailed, and a natural for the US Ga1 market.  It had
everything going for it, but you know how people will talk, and what they
were saying was It won't run - it's my $3.5K bookend.  A few had success,
but most didn't.
   What this says to me is that first consideration for almost everyone
is consistant running and size, gauge, scale, fuel, and to some extent even
appearance aren't as important as whether it runs well.

Regards,
Harry
 


Re: Accucraft and Aster surveys

2003-03-16 Thread FBM Studios
I would agree - however I keep track of all the hair salon tallies, and 
since
I buzz what's left of my hair once a week myself I only see it fair
that I spend the equivalent on an item of my choice. :-)
Viva la hairloss:-)
Cheers Ferdinand
On Sunday, March 16, 2003, at 01:11  PM, TrotFox Greyfoot wrote:

That's about $5!

No, I didn't leave out any 0's...  };]

Trot, the budgeted, fox...

On Sun, 16 Mar 2003, Harry Wade wrote:

 They already know the answer to that question . . . . MY favorite
locomotive, finely engineered, with detail rendered at or near museum
quality, in the fuel of my choice, for no more money than I can
successfully hide from or explain away to my spouse.  :-)
Regards,
Harry


 /\_/\TrotFox\ Always remember,
( o o )  AKA Landon Solomon   \ There is a
\./ [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ third alternative.




Re: Accucraft and Aster surveys

2003-03-16 Thread TrotFox Greyfoot
Ya know... that's an angle I hadn't thought of!  Makes going bald not so
bad.  ;]

Now if only it wasn't all leaving so slowly (going thin all over the top
but not truly bald.)

Isn't 25 too young for serious hair loss?  {:]

Trot, the hormone-effected, fox...

On Sun, 16 Mar 2003, FBM Studios wrote:

 I would agree - however I keep track of all the hair salon tallies, and
 since
 I buzz what's left of my hair once a week myself I only see it fair
 that I spend the equivalent on an item of my choice. :-)
 Viva la hairloss:-)
 Cheers Ferdinand


 /\_/\TrotFox\ Always remember,
( o o )  AKA Landon Solomon   \ There is a
 \./ [EMAIL PROTECTED] \ third alternative. 


Re: Accucraft and Aster surveys

2003-03-16 Thread Jeffrey Williams
The serial number plate on my K-27 says that it's 44/100.  That's a
small production run, even by Aster standards



Jeff Runge wrote:
 
 One more observation, Aster productions sell out in a relative shot
 time,with one exception, the CS mogul, This was narrow gauge  gas fired.
 Pruduced in 1991 with a total production of 480 units, and they are still
 avalible new from aster dealers. Thats a very slow mover! It was 11 years
 before offering another gas fired engine, and it is the JNR B20  an 0-4-0
 offered in 2002 ith a total production of 200 units. Aster has produced
 almost 60 different engines, many were offered in 2,3 different versions.
 i.e.: USRA Mikado ,black or green, : Jumbo,in LNWR black,LMS red, LMS black.
 That is to say  Accucraft would count all K- 27 as One and all C-16 as One .
  I have never heard any production numbers for Accucraft or Round House, is
 this information available? I would think Accucraft would have to have good
 production numbers to support their low prices.
 Thanks
 Jeff in NC
 


Re: Accucraft and Aster surveys

2003-03-16 Thread Jeff Runge
 Jeff W., 100 units, that is a small run, do you think that includes all the
different versions?
Jeff in NC
 


Re: Accucraft and Aster surveys

2003-03-16 Thread Jeffrey Williams
Jeff R:

I don't know the answer to that.  They send the buyer his serial number
shortly after one puts down the 10% deposit.  Doesn't make sense that
they would plan in advance to build 100 each of all five versions, since
they don't know in advance which versions will be most popular. 
Supposedly, they are built to order, implying 100 total build.

jeff W.

=

Jeff Runge wrote:
 
  Jeff W., 100 units, that is a small run, do you think that includes all the
 different versions?
 Jeff in NC