Re: Cylinder Gaskets
My local Western Auto store sold (it closed last month) gasket paper in .015, .010, and .006 thicknesses. The owner just cut off from a larger sheet as much as I wanted, and I bought one piece about 6 x 12 of each thickness. The .006 feels the closest to a greenback dollar. I doubt that the cost was remarkable, or I would not have bought one piece of each thickness. Bob Blackson
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Bob, Yup, I roll that will last several lifetimes cost about $2... --- Robert M. Blackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My local Western Auto store sold (it closed last month) gasket paper in .015, .010, and .006 thicknesses. The owner just cut off from a larger sheet as much as I wanted, and I bought one piece about 6 x 12 of each thickness. The .006 feels the closest to a greenback dollar. I doubt that the cost was remarkable, or I would not have bought one piece of each thickness. Bob Blackson __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/
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Phil et al, You're so right Phil. I bet, that with plate glass and myGood Friend Bon-Ami, the same surfaces could be achieved on most steam engine assemblies, ie; valve chest covers, valve chests to cylinder, cyl end covers etc. Geoff. As Geoff knows; We're both O.S. fans, so we're used to good finishes and fitting parts. Phil
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Geoff, Yet another reason to be thankful to be an American! grin Honestly, that's quite interesting. Later, Trent Geoff Spenceley wrote: there used to be a thick brown toilet paper sold in England (truly!!) that was rough and sandy on one side and shiny smooth on the other. I always figured it was his and hers.
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Sir Art wrote: Don't you guys have laws against doing this ?? Art, We don't have the Queen's head on our bills. Memories!-I used to visit the Queen's Head in Richmond- and drink the King's ale!! I have used plain paper and the brown paper bag paper (good suggestion Art) in in the past for gaskets--depends how good the surfaces are that you are joining. O.S engines that I have assembled don't provide gaskets--they tell you to just use a little packing compound--the surfaces are very well machined and finished and I haven't had leaks. How about a good linen writing paper-- also, there used to be a thick brown toilet paper sold in England (truly!!) that was rough and sandy on one side and shiny smooth on the other. I always figured it was his and hers. Next time, Kevin, to my wife's purse and a buck bill. Cost--zilch!! Geoff. Don't you guys have laws against doing this ?? I am sure the Euro would not work, our first bit of paper the £5 note would be a bit too much. I would guess the brown paper as used in your supermarket bags would work quite well. Art Walker, Guildford, England. - Original Message - From: Kevin Strong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of sslivesteam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 4:55 PM Subject: Cylinder gaskets I've had good luck by cutting gaskets from dollar bills. (You can use whatever denomination you want) The high cotton content (is that where they get the term soft money?) Anyway... The high cotton content makes them a good choice. I've got them in both of my Roundhouse locos, and have never had a problem with leakage. And if I need to replace them, you get two or three sets out of one bill. Makes the cost around 30¢ per set. Use the cover plates as cutting guides, and you'll be in good shape. A little steam oil to act as a seal, and you're up and running. Later, K
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At 12:21 PM -0600 4/17/02, VR Bass wrote: The high cotton content makes I thought they were linen? -vance- you're both right -- 75 percent cotton, 25 percent linen. \dmc -- ^^^ Dave Cole Gen'l Sup't: Grand Teton Everglades Steam Excursion Co. Pacifica, Calif. USA http://45mm.com/ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List Mom: sslivesteam, the list of small-scale live steamers mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ATTEND THE 2002 NATIONAL SUMMER STEAMUP IN PLEASANTON, CALIF., JULY 12-14 For more information, visit http://www.summersteamup.com/ ^^^
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Gang I learned the US dollar bill trick from Doug Patman(sp?) in Canada. Cautioned me to use only USD. BTW Kevin, you can cut up 48% of the bill, take it to a bank, and once they see it is over 50% there... they will give you a FREE replacement. So your 30 cents goes to ZERO. And Old Spencely won't have to sneak in Queenie's bag looking for gasket material. Jim === At 10:10 AM 04/17/2002 -0700, you wrote: Sir Art wrote: Don't you guys have laws against doing this ?? Art, We don't have the Queen's head on our bills. Memories!-I used to visit the Queen's Head in Richmond- and drink the King's ale!! Next time, Kevin, to my wife's purse and a buck bill. Cost--zilch!! Geoff. - Original Message - From: Kevin Strong [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've had good luck by cutting gaskets from dollar bills. And if I need to replace them, you get two or three sets out of one bill. Makes the cost around 30¢ per set.
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I guess this is where there term disposable income originates. :) Jim
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Jim, Phil et al, I knew you were a bloomin' conniving genius, Jim--that is the best solution yet!! -But I'm too honest, so will you send me the gasket material??--I'll do the cutting up and return the gaskets to you!! Phil, I had used your suggestion for repair of my compressor. I use Permatex Copper gasket . It's reddish in color and seals well and yet if you must take the covers off, can be pealed off easily and it's good for heat in excess of 400 degrees F. I worried about using it for locos,--too hard to remove at a later date, but your statement removes that worry. Thanks. Geoff. Gang I learned the US dollar bill trick from Doug Patman(sp?) in Canada. Cautioned me to use only USD. BTW Kevin, you can cut up 48% of the bill, take it to a bank, and once they see it is over 50% there... they will give you a FREE replacement. So your 30 cents goes to ZERO. And Old Spencely won't have to sneak in Queenie's bag looking for gasket material. Jim === At 10:10 AM 04/17/2002 -0700, you wrote: Sir Art wrote: Don't you guys have laws against doing this ?? Art, We don't have the Queen's head on our bills. Memories!-I used to visit the Queen's Head in Richmond- and drink the King's ale!! Next time, Kevin, to my wife's purse and a buck bill. Cost--zilch!! Geoff. - Original Message - From: Kevin Strong [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've had good luck by cutting gaskets from dollar bills. And if I need to replace them, you get two or three sets out of one bill. Makes the cost around 30¢ per set.
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Instead of the trip to the bank why not go to the auto supply where you can get the Permatex and auto gasket material too... You can buy the stuff in 1/64 thickness in small easy to cut rolls three ft long...Ok, not as much fun as cutting money and getting it replaced for free... See some of you in St. Louis in a few weeks... Sam --- Geoff Spenceley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim, Phil et al, I knew you were a bloomin' conniving genius, Jim--that is the best solution yet!! -But I'm too honest, so will you send me the gasket material??--I'll do the cutting up and return the gaskets to you!! Phil, I had used your suggestion for repair of my compressor. I use Permatex Copper gasket . It's reddish in color and seals well and yet if you must take the covers off, can be pealed off easily and it's good for heat in excess of 400 degrees F. I worried about using it for locos,--too hard to remove at a later date, but your statement removes that worry. Thanks. Geoff. Gang I learned the US dollar bill trick from Doug Patman(sp?) in Canada. Cautioned me to use only USD. BTW Kevin, you can cut up 48% of the bill, take it to a bank, and once they see it is over 50% there... they will give you a FREE replacement. So your 30 cents goes to ZERO. And Old Spencely won't have to sneak in Queenie's bag looking for gasket material. Jim === At 10:10 AM 04/17/2002 -0700, you wrote: Sir Art wrote: Don't you guys have laws against doing this ?? Art, We don't have the Queen's head on our bills. Memories!-I used to visit the Queen's Head in Richmond- and drink the King's ale!! Next time, Kevin, to my wife's purse and a buck bill. Cost--zilch!! Geoff. - Original Message - From: Kevin Strong [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've had good luck by cutting gaskets from dollar bills. And if I need to replace them, you get two or three sets out of one bill. Makes the cost around 30¢ per set. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/
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Instead of the trip to the bank why not go to the auto supply where you can get the Permatex and auto gasket material too The way I heard it, someone (Bob Paule?) once commented that gaskets for little steamers were so expensive, you'd be better off cutting up dollar bills to make them. Although it was a joke, someone tried it and it seems to work. Wisdom emerges in strange ways, I suppose -vance-
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Vance, You asked: The high cotton content makes I thought they were linen? Back in the Good Old Days, around the 18th century (and yes, I mean the 18th), linen rags were common, and a ready source of fibre for high-quality paper. For that matter, the wood pulp process hadn't been worked out to the point where it was economical. These days, I think you can still find linen paper, but most rag paper is 100% cotton. For a quick reference, take a look at Crane's business papers: http://www.crane.com/business/default.asp The Bond and Crest papers are available in 20# to 28#; un-watermarked imaging papers up to 80#; and cover stock up to 179#. Somewhere in there ought to be a gasket stock for just about anything! Ah, yes - just did a quick follow-up search. Sure enough, you can get cotton/linen blend and fine linen writing paper as well. - - Steve
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As Geoff knows; We're both O.S. fans, so we're used to good finishes and fitting parts. Phil Jim, Phil et al, I knew you were a bloomin' conniving genius, Jim--that is the best solution yet!! -But I'm too honest, so will you send me the gasket material??--I'll do the cutting up and return the gaskets to you!! Phil, I had used your suggestion for repair of my compressor. I use Permatex Copper gasket . It's reddish in color and seals well and yet if you must take the covers off, can be pealed off easily and it's good for heat in excess of 400 degrees F. I worried about using it for locos,--too hard to remove at a later date, but your statement removes that worry. Thanks. Geoff. Gang I learned the US dollar bill trick from Doug Patman(sp?) in Canada. Cautioned me to use only USD. BTW Kevin, you can cut up 48% of the bill, take it to a bank, and once they see it is over 50% there... they will give you a FREE replacement. So your 30 cents goes to ZERO. And Old Spencely won't have to sneak in Queenie's bag looking for gasket material. Jim === At 10:10 AM 04/17/2002 -0700, you wrote: Sir Art wrote: Don't you guys have laws against doing this ?? Art, We don't have the Queen's head on our bills. Memories!-I used to visit the Queen's Head in Richmond- and drink the King's ale!! Next time, Kevin, to my wife's purse and a buck bill. Cost--zilch!! Geoff. - Original Message - From: Kevin Strong [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've had good luck by cutting gaskets from dollar bills. And if I need to replace them, you get two or three sets out of one bill. Makes the cost around 30¢ per set.
