Re: steam oil vs koi ponds

2001-05-18 Thread Peter Jobusch

There is a corner of the bridge visible in the photo of the Single on our
(stale - sorry 'bout that) web site www.jobusch.com ... 

I'll try to get the boss interested in updating the site ... 

Pete Jobusch

At 10:27 PM 5/16/2001 -0700, you wrote:
>I personally would love to see photos of this ballasted deck girder bridge
>and pond.
>Gary of Eugene, OR
>
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Peter Jobusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 5:10 PM
>Subject: Re: steam oil vs koi ponds
>
>
>> Our East Serendipity Railway crosses Walled In Pond on a scratch built
>> ballasted deck girder bridge about 62 feet long.  The pond is relatively
>> small (about 800 gallons).  The trains are all live steam.  No serious
>> polution problems in the seven years we've been running over the pond and
>> through the woods ...  We have not bought any fish since the first batch,
>> but they are Comets, not Koi.
>>
>> Pete Jobusch
>>
>> At 12:32 PM 2001-05-16 -0700, you wrote:
>> >I am in the stages of completing my garden (steam ) layout .
>> >We have two koi ponds that will be circled by tracks that live steam
>> >engines will travel my question is , if anyone else has the same
>> >situation and if so have you noticed any problems from  steam oil
>> >contamination  of the pond and if it was a  problem for the fish .
>> >
>> >My Steam up Start up area will be away from the ponds .
>> >
>> >Paul Gamlin
>> >
>> >
>>
> 
> 



Re: steam oil vs koi ponds

2001-05-16 Thread Gary Lane

I personally would love to see photos of this ballasted deck girder bridge
and pond.
Gary of Eugene, OR


- Original Message -
From: "Peter Jobusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Multiple recipients of sslivesteam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: steam oil vs koi ponds


> Our East Serendipity Railway crosses Walled In Pond on a scratch built
> ballasted deck girder bridge about 62 feet long.  The pond is relatively
> small (about 800 gallons).  The trains are all live steam.  No serious
> polution problems in the seven years we've been running over the pond and
> through the woods ...  We have not bought any fish since the first batch,
> but they are Comets, not Koi.
>
> Pete Jobusch
>
> At 12:32 PM 2001-05-16 -0700, you wrote:
> >I am in the stages of completing my garden (steam ) layout .
> >We have two koi ponds that will be circled by tracks that live steam
> >engines will travel my question is , if anyone else has the same
> >situation and if so have you noticed any problems from  steam oil
> >contamination  of the pond and if it was a  problem for the fish .
> >
> >My Steam up Start up area will be away from the ponds .
> >
> >Paul Gamlin
> >
> >
>
 



Re: steam oil vs koi ponds

2001-05-16 Thread M. Paterson

Paul, a portion of the BSRR rings an 8 foot pond with
Koi.  Fish are approx 10 years old, railroad 9 and
live steam 4, all with no co-habitation problems.  I
do not run weekly, more likely once or twice a month
all year long.
mike

--- Paul Gamlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am in the stages of completing my garden (steam )
> layout .
> We have two koi ponds that will be circled by tracks
> that live steam
> engines will travel my question is , if anyone else
> has the same
> situation and if so have you noticed any problems
> from  steam oil
> contamination  of the pond and if it was a  problem
> for the fish .
> 
> My Steam up Start up area will be away from the
> ponds .
> 
> Paul Gamlin
>  


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Re: steam oil vs koi ponds

2001-05-16 Thread M. Paterson

Paul, a portion of the BSRR rings an 8 foot pond with
Koi.  Fish are approx 10 years old, railroad 9 and
live steam 4, all with no co-habitation problems.  I
do not run weekly, more likely once or twice a month
all year long.
mike

--- Paul Gamlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am in the stages of completing my garden (steam )
> layout .
> We have two koi ponds that will be circled by tracks
> that live steam
> engines will travel my question is , if anyone else
> has the same
> situation and if so have you noticed any problems
> from  steam oil
> contamination  of the pond and if it was a  problem
> for the fish .
> 
> My Steam up Start up area will be away from the
> ponds .
> 
> Paul Gamlin
>  


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Re: steam oil vs koi ponds

2001-05-16 Thread Peter Jobusch

Our East Serendipity Railway crosses Walled In Pond on a scratch built
ballasted deck girder bridge about 62 feet long.  The pond is relatively
small (about 800 gallons).  The trains are all live steam.  No serious
polution problems in the seven years we've been running over the pond and
through the woods ...  We have not bought any fish since the first batch,
but they are Comets, not Koi.

Pete Jobusch

At 12:32 PM 2001-05-16 -0700, you wrote:
>I am in the stages of completing my garden (steam ) layout .
>We have two koi ponds that will be circled by tracks that live steam
>engines will travel my question is , if anyone else has the same
>situation and if so have you noticed any problems from  steam oil
>contamination  of the pond and if it was a  problem for the fish .
>
>My Steam up Start up area will be away from the ponds .
>
>Paul Gamlin
> 
> 



Re: steam oil vs koi ponds

2001-05-16 Thread Jesse Grimmer

If you don't have run-off into the pond and there is no bridge going over
the water there is no way for the oil to contaminate the pond.  Even if it
did get in there, I don't know how much steam oil it would take to do any
damage.  I guess it depends on how much water you have, and how big the fish
are.
 



Re: steam oil vs koi ponds

2001-05-16 Thread Geoff Spenceley

Paul,

There  is a steamer here who has  SMALL pond with koi and a truss bridge
crossing it which has been in place for a number a number of years.
Sometimes a drop of oil or two lands in the pond. (pretty colors!) Despite
the small size of the pond, he has experienced no casualties with his koi.
In fact I have noted that they seem to swim a little faster--lubrication??

Geoff.




 I am in the stages of completing my garden (steam ) layout .
>We have two koi ponds that will be circled by tracks that live steam
>engines will travel my question is , if anyone else has the same
>situation and if so have you noticed any problems from  steam oil
>contamination  of the pond and if it was a  problem for the fish .
>
>My Steam up Start up area will be away from the ponds .
>
>Paul Gamlin
>


 



Re: steam oil vs koi ponds

2001-05-16 Thread Harry Wade

At 12:32 PM 5/16/01 -0700, you wrote:
>my question is have you noticed any problems from steam oil
>contamination of the pond and if it was a problem for the fish .
>Paul

   They'll get no sympathy here.  A good dose of steam oil is paltry
repayment, considering how much cod liver oil I had to take as a kid.
hw
 



Re: steam oil vs koi ponds

2001-05-16 Thread Jesse Grimmer

Does your pond catch run-off?  Mine does not catch any runoff due to a rock
hidden lip around it.  Do you have any bridges that traverse the water area?
If the answer is no to both questions I would not worry at all.
 



Re: steam oil vs koi ponds

2001-05-16 Thread Jerry Barnes

My steamer runs right by my pond, but I am the only steamer for hundreds of
miles, so only one ever goes by. I can't see it being a problem.

Jerry