Re: [Standards] XEP 0131

2008-08-08 Thread Peter Saint-Andre

Johansson Olle E wrote:


8 aug 2008 kl. 15.41 skrev Peter Saint-Andre:


Johansson Olle E wrote:
XEP 0131 (Stanza headers and Internet Metadata) defines a lot of 
headers that are referenced to RFC 3261 - SIP.
Is there any underlying document that explains the selection and the 
usage?
As an example, the "Call-ID" header is a bit odd, since it's only 
valid in the SIP call path and in my opinion should not be re-used in 
the

XMPP path as a header, an ID for that call leg.


There was no selection -- basically we said "you can re-use any of the 
headers you might want or need from HTTP, SMTP, NNTP, SIP, etc.".


Ok, maybe we need to clarify a few of them in the interoperability docs.


Oh sure, clarification is always good. :)

Peter



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Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0231 (Bits of Binary)

2008-08-08 Thread Peter Saint-Andre

Pavel Simerda wrote:

On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 08:36:12 -0600
Peter Saint-Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Pavel Simerda wrote:


URL: http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0231.html

That's it :).

Super. So now I think we need to issue a second Last Call on
XEP-0231, XEP-0221, and XEP-0158, because they have changed quite a
bit since the previous Last Call. And I think now XEP-0231 and
XEP-0221 will be more palatable to Council member Ralph Meijer, who
did not like the inclusion of binary data in x:data forms.

/psa



Btw, I had to lookup 'palatable in a dictionary :).

If he'll be more content with it, it's only good, it's a pity I didn't
see any of his comments or concerns.


In one of the recent XMPP Council meetings he expressed a vague 
discomfort about XEP-0221 because he didn't think that it was right to 
include the binary data directly in an x:data form, so I think he may 
prefer our "bits of binary" approach.


/psa



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[Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0158 (CAPTCHA Forms)

2008-08-08 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
This message constitutes notice of a Last Call for comments on XEP-0158 
(CAPTCHA Forms).

Abstract: This document specifies an XMPP protocol extension that entities may 
use to discover whether the sender of an XML stanza is a human user or a robot.

URL: http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0158.html

This Last Call begins today and shall end at the close of business on 
2008-08-22.

Please consider the following questions during this Last Call and send your 
feedback to the standards@xmpp.org discussion list:

1. Is this specification needed to fill gaps in the XMPP protocol stack or to 
clarify an existing protocol?
2. Does the specification solve the problem stated in the introduction and 
requirements?
3. Do you plan to implement this specification in your code? If not, why not?
4. Do you have any security concerns related to this specification?
5. Is the specification accurate and clearly written?

Your feedback is appreciated!


[Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0221 (Data Forms Media Element)

2008-08-08 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
This message constitutes notice of a Last Call for comments on XEP-0221 (Data 
Forms Media Element).

Abstract: This specification defines an XMPP protocol extension for including 
media data in XEP-0004 data forms.

URL: http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0221.html

This Last Call begins today and shall end at the close of business on 
2008-08-22.

Please consider the following questions during this Last Call and send your 
feedback to the standards@xmpp.org discussion list:

1. Is this specification needed to fill gaps in the XMPP protocol stack or to 
clarify an existing protocol?
2. Does the specification solve the problem stated in the introduction and 
requirements?
3. Do you plan to implement this specification in your code? If not, why not?
4. Do you have any security concerns related to this specification?
5. Is the specification accurate and clearly written?

Your feedback is appreciated!


[Standards] LAST CALL: XEP-0231 (Bits of Binary)

2008-08-08 Thread XMPP Extensions Editor
This message constitutes notice of a Last Call for comments on XEP-0231 (Bits 
of Binary).

Abstract: This specification defines an XMPP protocol extension for including 
or referring to small bits of binary data in an XML stanza.

URL: http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0231.html

This Last Call begins today and shall end at the close of business on 
2008-08-22.

Please consider the following questions during this Last Call and send your 
feedback to the standards@xmpp.org discussion list:

1. Is this specification needed to fill gaps in the XMPP protocol stack or to 
clarify an existing protocol?
2. Does the specification solve the problem stated in the introduction and 
requirements?
3. Do you plan to implement this specification in your code? If not, why not?
4. Do you have any security concerns related to this specification?
5. Is the specification accurate and clearly written?

Your feedback is appreciated!


Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0231 (Bits of Binary)

2008-08-08 Thread Pavel Simerda
On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 08:36:12 -0600
Peter Saint-Andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Pavel Simerda wrote:
> 
> >> URL: http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0231.html
> > 
> > That's it :).
> 
> Super. So now I think we need to issue a second Last Call on
> XEP-0231, XEP-0221, and XEP-0158, because they have changed quite a
> bit since the previous Last Call. And I think now XEP-0231 and
> XEP-0221 will be more palatable to Council member Ralph Meijer, who
> did not like the inclusion of binary data in x:data forms.
> 
> /psa
> 

Btw, I had to lookup 'palatable in a dictionary :).

If he'll be more content with it, it's only good, it's a pity I didn't
see any of his comments or concerns.

Pavel

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Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0231 (Bits of Binary)

2008-08-08 Thread Peter Saint-Andre

Pavel Simerda wrote:


URL: http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0231.html


That's it :).


Super. So now I think we need to issue a second Last Call on XEP-0231, 
XEP-0221, and XEP-0158, because they have changed quite a bit since the 
previous Last Call. And I think now XEP-0231 and XEP-0221 will be more 
palatable to Council member Ralph Meijer, who did not like the inclusion 
of binary data in x:data forms.


/psa



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Re: [Standards] XEP 0131

2008-08-08 Thread Johansson Olle E


8 aug 2008 kl. 15.41 skrev Peter Saint-Andre:


Johansson Olle E wrote:
XEP 0131 (Stanza headers and Internet Metadata) defines a lot of  
headers that are referenced to RFC 3261 - SIP.
Is there any underlying document that explains the selection and  
the usage?
As an example, the "Call-ID" header is a bit odd, since it's only  
valid in the SIP call path and in my opinion should not be re-used  
in the

XMPP path as a header, an ID for that call leg.


There was no selection -- basically we said "you can re-use any of  
the headers you might want or need from HTTP, SMTP, NNTP, SIP, etc.".


Ok, maybe we need to clarify a few of them in the interoperability docs.

/O

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Re: [Standards] UPDATED: XEP-0231 (Bits of Binary)

2008-08-08 Thread Pavel Simerda
On Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:39:19 -0500
XMPP Extensions Editor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Version 0.8 of XEP-0231 (Bits of Binary) has been released.
> 
> Abstract: This specification defines an XMPP protocol extension for
> including or referring to small bits of binary data in an XML stanza.
> 
> Changelog: Added section on determining support. (psa/ps)
> 
> Diff: http://is.gd/1j1T
> 
> URL: http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0231.html
> 

That's it :).

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Re: [Standards] XEP 0131

2008-08-08 Thread Peter Saint-Andre

Johansson Olle E wrote:
XEP 0131 (Stanza headers and Internet Metadata) defines a lot of headers 
that are referenced to RFC 3261 - SIP.


Is there any underlying document that explains the selection and the usage?

As an example, the "Call-ID" header is a bit odd, since it's only valid 
in the SIP call path and in my opinion should not be re-used in the

XMPP path as a header, an ID for that call leg.


There was no selection -- basically we said "you can re-use any of the 
headers you might want or need from HTTP, SMTP, NNTP, SIP, etc.".


/psa



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[Standards] XEP 0131

2008-08-08 Thread Johansson Olle E
XEP 0131 (Stanza headers and Internet Metadata) defines a lot of  
headers that are referenced to RFC 3261 - SIP.


Is there any underlying document that explains the selection and the  
usage?


As an example, the "Call-ID" header is a bit odd, since it's only  
valid in the SIP call path and in my opinion should not be re-used in  
the

XMPP path as a header, an ID for that call leg.

/O

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