Re: [Standards] Request for Clarification on the Editor's Job Description
Alright, now that we had some off-topic chatter on technical point of views, let's get back on topic. I have not received any answer on the questions raised in http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/standards/2011-July/024756.html nor has there been a statement on the normality of these points: + the authors of the submitted XEP were not given any written explanation for any of council members' -1 votes as is stated in http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0001.html#approval + no meeting minutes were published. According to http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/council/2006-June/thread.html 2006-06-14 is possibly the only meeting that officially yielded no results.
Re: [Standards] Request for Clarification on the Editor's Job Description
On Tue Jul 26 16:54:40 2011, Carlo v. Loesch wrote: Alright, now that we had some off-topic chatter on technical point of views, let's get back on topic. I think you may find that the topic of this list *is* actually technical points of view. I'd personally argue that the majority of points you raise are water under the bridge - no pun intended - but if you are keen on getting some kind of official statement out of the XSF, I'd suggest this is the wrong list. Maybe try sending to the XSF Board? Dave. -- Dave Cridland - mailto:d...@cridland.net - xmpp:d...@dave.cridland.net - acap://acap.dave.cridland.net/byowner/user/dwd/bookmarks/ - http://dave.cridland.net/ Infotrope Polymer - ACAP, IMAP, ESMTP, and Lemonade
Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Whitespace Keepalive Negotiation
On 19 July 2011 21:42, Glenn Maynard gl...@zewt.org wrote: On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 9:13 PM, Matthew A. Miller linuxw...@outer-planes.net wrote: Sending at that rate will result in a disconnected socket for most of the networks I've seen. There are still an exorbitant number of routers, proxies, firewalls, and load balancers deployed and configured such that they will (silently!) drop a connection if there is no traffic for 5-10 minutes. I've never encountered a network that'll disconnect with 10-15-minute keepalives; there may be some, but I doubt most. A few weeks ago I was completely with you. But I just moved into an office where idle connections randomly die - I now have 15 *second* ping-pongs on SSH connections just to make sure they stay open. It's looking like I'm going to have to do the same for XMPP too. I'm sharing the office with a fairly competent technology company, the last place I would have expected such a broken network configuration - but there you have it. Some people think HTTP is the internet :) Regards, Matthew
Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Whitespace Keepalive Negotiation
On Jul 26, 2011, at 16:57, Matthew Wild wrote: On 19 July 2011 21:42, Glenn Maynard gl...@zewt.org wrote: On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 9:13 PM, Matthew A. Miller linuxw...@outer-planes.net wrote: Sending at that rate will result in a disconnected socket for most of the networks I've seen. There are still an exorbitant number of routers, proxies, firewalls, and load balancers deployed and configured such that they will (silently!) drop a connection if there is no traffic for 5-10 minutes. I've never encountered a network that'll disconnect with 10-15-minute keepalives; there may be some, but I doubt most. A few weeks ago I was completely with you. But I just moved into an office where idle connections randomly die - I now have 15 *second* ping-pongs on SSH connections just to make sure they stay open. It's looking like I'm going to have to do the same for XMPP too. I'm sharing the office with a fairly competent technology company, the last place I would have expected such a broken network configuration - but there you have it. Some people think HTTP is the internet :) I tried to warn y'all... (-: - mm http://goo.gl/voEzk smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature
Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Whitespace Keepalive Negotiation
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Matthew Wild mwi...@gmail.com wrote: I've never encountered a network that'll disconnect with 10-15-minute keepalives; there may be some, but I doubt most. A few weeks ago I was completely with you. But I just moved into an office where idle connections randomly die - I now have 15 *second* ping-pongs on SSH connections just to make sure they stay open. It's looking like I'm going to have to do the same for XMPP too. I'm sharing the office with a fairly competent technology company, the last place I would have expected such a broken network configuration - but there you have it. Some people think HTTP is the internet :) But that's the rare exception, not most. -- Glenn Maynard
