[Standards] XMPP Standards Foundation and XEP-0001
Hello, According to XEP-0001: The XMPP Standards Foundation (XSF) adheres to an open standards process I browsed through the www.xmpp.org web site. I found some meeting minutes at http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/meeting-minutes/ The minutes for the past year is basically voting results. Is XSF still operational and if so, is there any requirement for it to operate in a transparent manner? Regards, -sm
Re: [Standards] XMPP Standards Foundation and XEP-0001
SM s...@resistor.net wrote: Hello, According to XEP-0001: The XMPP Standards Foundation (XSF) adheres to an open standards process I browsed through the www.xmpp.org web site. I found some meeting minutes at http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/meeting-minutes/ The minutes for the past year is basically voting results. Is XSF still operational and if so, is there any requirement for it to operate in a transparent manner? Hi, Well, voting is just about the only thing we do in general member meetings. The minutes generally also link to the raw chat logs. The rest of the activities of the XSF is working on (improving) our standards. The primary body for this is the Council along with everybody on the standards list. Council meetings are also open, and, again, raw chat logs are available. There is also a Council mailing list. Finally, there is the Board, which takes care of the organizational stuff regarding the Foundation: finance, planning summits, managing voting, and steering our 'teams'. Board meetings are open, and take place in xmpp:x...@muc.xmpp.org, just like member meetings, and also logged. Most of the XSF discussion happens on the members mailing list. I do notice that out website doesn't clearly show where the XSF MUC room archives are. That's something we should address. You can find the specifics on our obligations in the by-laws, but yes, we try to be as transparent as we can be. If you have any further questions, let us know! Thanks! -- ralphm
Re: [Standards] XMPP Standards Foundation and XEP-0001
Hi Ralph, Thanks for the quick and substantive reply. At 08:11 21-09-2013, Ralph Meijer wrote: Finally, there is the Board, which takes care of the organizational stuff regarding the Foundation: finance, planning summits, managing voting, and steering our 'teams'. Board meetings are open, and take place in xmpp:x...@muc.xmpp.org, just like member meetings, and also logged. Most of the XSF discussion happens on the members mailing list. The member meetings would be regular meetings as stated in Section 5.3 of the XSF by-laws. I do notice that out website doesn't clearly show where the XSF MUC room archives are. That's something we should address. Ok. I looked up the Financial summary ( http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/xsf-financial-summary/ ). It was last updated in 2008. In my humble opinion providing raw logs is not welcoming for anyone who would like to gain an understanding of what the XSF Board does. I do understand that it is paperwork and it may not seem relevant to the development of XMPP standards. However, the world out there tends to give undue attention to paperwork. Having 501(c)(3) status is not inviting when there aren't timely publicly accessible reports. On an unrelated note, I was puzzled when I could not find any comment from the XSF Board about a matter which is directly related to the primary mission in light of current events (see http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg82679.html ). Regards, -sm
