Re: [Standards] Adding namespaced content to Registry entries

2020-06-10 Thread Florian Schmaus
On 6/3/20 10:50 PM, Dave Cridland wrote:> That said, I think there's two
useful things we can do here:
> 
> 1) Validation information is clearly useful in this case; we should add
> that to the XEP-0068 registry by an update to XEP-0068 

I would like to avoid steering us in a world where we are required to
explicitly mark registry entries as extensible. Instead, registry
entries should simply assumed to be extensible. Just like we assume that
XML elements are extensible in XMPP, and for that reason also do not
explicitly declare that extensibility in your XML schemas (minus a few
exceptions).

Otherwise, we would need to perform this over and over again for every
add-on XEP that deals with elements that are part of a registry, for no
reason. There is *no* advantage in explicit stating it: Just as on the
protocol level, either the extended additional information was
negotiated, and you are prepared for it, or you are not required to
understand it, and can simply ignore it while processing the registry entry.

- Florian



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Re: [Standards] Council Minutes 2020-05-27

2020-06-10 Thread Georg Lukas
* Tedd Sterr  [2020-06-01 00:53]:
> 4a) Proposed XMPP Extension: SASL Channel-Binding Type Capability - 
> https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/xep-sasl-cb-types.html

+1


> 4b) PR #949 - Add status-addresses registrar entry - 
> https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/949
> Jonas notes the on-list discussion around this [1].

+1 (and even +2 if we add the .well-known mapping into it and somebody
implements the right magic in the server software)

> 4c) Advance XEP-0393 (Message Styling) - 
> https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0393.html

+1

It was a nice heated discussion, this time and last time. The principal
feature now exists on IM systems for roughly twenty years [0] and it is
good to have it formalized.

It wouldn't make sense to have a disco feature for supporting this,
because MAM and Carbons will end up delivering a message do different
clients.

I'm not opposed to a boolean tri-state per-message flag to opt-in,
opt-out, or use the recipient's default setting for Styling on that
message:

Opt-out:



Opt-in:



Default / fallback:

no additional element


[0] https://irssi.org/NEWS/#v0-7-97

> 
> 4d) Last Call: XEP-0338 (Jingle Grouping Framework) - 
> https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0338.html

+1



Georg


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