Re: [Standards] [XEP-0097] reviving iCal in XMPP

[Peter Saint-Andre]

On 9/9/16 8:15 AM, Goffi wrote:

Le vendredi 9 septembre 2016, 09:00:48 CEST Sam Whited a écrit :


On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 4:18 AM, Goffi  wrote:



> but the bad side is that it is not XML, so a client would



> need a specific parser (the basic information are not difficult to parse



> though).







I'm unsure of the state of this, but it may be worth a look:



https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6321







(although it's probably easier to use normal iCal format because many



libraries already exist to prase it)







—Sam




Oh thanks, didn't knew about it, it may make more sense in XMPP context.



So I'm not sure now which version suit the best, I actually think
standardised XML version make more sense.



If we go this way would it be better to do a new XEP and deprecate the
former one or to update the XEP-0097? I think a new one would actually
be better.


Yes, I think that would be the right path.

Peter

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Re: [Standards] [XEP-0097] reviving iCal in XMPP

[Goffi]

Le vendredi 9 septembre 2016, 09:00:48 CEST Sam Whited a écrit :
> On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 4:18 AM, Goffi  wrote:
> > but the bad side is that it is not XML, so a client would
> > need a specific parser (the basic information are not difficult to parse
> > though).
> 
> I'm unsure of the state of this, but it may be worth a look:
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6321
> 
> (although it's probably easier to use normal iCal format because many
> libraries already exist to prase it)
> 
> —Sam

Oh thanks, didn't knew about it, it may make more sense in XMPP context.

So I'm not sure now which version suit the best, I actually think standardised 
XML version 
make more sense.

If we go this way would it be better to do a new XEP and deprecate the former 
one or to 
update the XEP-0097? I think a new one would actually be better.


Goffi
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Re: [Standards] [XEP-0097] reviving iCal in XMPP

[Sam Whited]

On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 4:18 AM, Goffi  wrote:
> but the bad side is that it is not XML, so a client would
> need a specific parser (the basic information are not difficult to parse
> though).

I'm unsure of the state of this, but it may be worth a look:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6321

(although it's probably easier to use normal iCal format because many
libraries already exist to prase it)

—Sam

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[Standards] [XEP-0097] reviving iCal in XMPP

[Goffi]

Hello,

We would like to use events in XMPP and the logical thing would be to use 
iCal. After having a quick look, I found that there is already the XEP-0097 
which do that, but it has been untouched since 2003(!). I have contacted the 
author using the email declared in the XEP, but I'm not sure if it's still 
valid and I have little hope to have an answer to be honest.

So if I can reach the author and if he agrees, or if we have no news, I would 
like to maintain this XEP and update it. First I would be able to use these 
events with  stanza in addition to .

Also I wonder what do you think about the way it is done. I think it's 
perfectly logical to use iCal which is already a standard and which is 
transport agnostic, but the bad side is that it is not XML, so a client would 
need a specific parser (the basic information are not difficult to parse 
though).

As a first concrete usecase we have been talking with mathieui about using it 
to create a new XEP for declaring maintenance periods in XMPP servers (an 
event with a well known namespace saying that a server will be off at a 
certain date for an expected amount of time).

So feedback welcome

Regards
Goffi
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