Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Struts as an Apache Top Level Project

2004-03-12 Thread Don Brown
Sorry, I just moved from Hawaii to California so I haven't been following struts-dev 
like I should.

About the TLP vote: +0 - no strong feelings one way or another

Don

- Original Message -
From: Martin Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 21:47:05 -0800 (PST)
To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [RESULT][VOTE] Struts as an Apache Top Level Project

 The response to this vote has been unanimous, with all proposed PMC
 members responding except for two: Arron Bates and Don Brown. I have
 attempted to ping those two directly, but have not yet heard back.
 
 The next board meeting is March 17th, which is next Wednesday. I propose
 to submit our resolution this weekend, for consideration at that meeting.
 In the absence of responses from Arron and Don before then, I will remove
 their names from both lists. They will, of course, be welcome to join the
 PMC at a later time.
 
 If anyone has any objections to the above plan, please speak up now.
 
 --
 Martin Cooper
 
 
 On Sat, 6 Mar 2004, Martin Cooper wrote:
 
  Following up on a brief thread on this list in December [1], Craig, Ted
  and I have put together a draft resolution to the board of directors [2],
  along with a cover letter [3], that would promote Struts to an Apache
  top-level project (TLP).
 
  The main reasons for moving to a TLP are described on the wiki [4]. In
  Craig's words, The short answer, though, is we will be in charge of our
  own releases (currently, the Jakarta PMC is the only body legally
  recognized to vote on releases of *any* software under Jakarta). In
  practice, we can really just continue doing what we've always done.
 
  As most of you are no doubt aware, several Jakarta sub-projects have
  already made the transition to TLPs, including Ant, Avalon, Gump, James,
  Log4J, Maven, OJB, and Torque. Most Jakarta PMC members seem to be in
  favour of the migrations, largely because a single PMC cannot possibly
  oversee a code base the size of all of Jakarta.
 
  If you're OK with Struts being a top-level Apache project, please respond
  to this thread with either a +1 or +0. Otherwise, please reply with your
  concerns. When we previously discussed this, it did not seem like anyone
  was opposed to the idea, but if anyone is, now is the time to speak up.
 
  The resolution as drafted lists the Struts Committers who could
  reasonably be considered active at this time. Of course, we should not
  put anyone on the PMC without their buy-in, so the final resolution would
  only list the Committers who responded to the Vote with a +1 or +0.
 
  The draft resolution also leaves the name of the Vice President blank.
  Craig seems like the logical candidate, and is willing to act in this
  capacity, but we wanted the VP selection to be a community decision. So,
  please also respond with your nomination for Vice President, Apache
  Struts.
 
  Here's my +1 on the resolution as drafted, and my +1 for Craig as Vice
  President.
 
  --
  Martin Cooper
 
  [1] http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/SearchList?listId=[EMAIL 
  PROTECTED]searchText=%22Why+you+*want*+to+be+on+the+PMC%22defaultField=subjectSearch=Search
  [2] http://www.apache.org/~martinc/struts/tlp/resolution.html
  [3] http://www.apache.org/~martinc/struts/tlp/cover.html
  [4] http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JakartaPMCPropsedChanges
 
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Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Struts as an Apache Top Level Project

2004-03-12 Thread Martin Cooper
On Fri, 12 Mar 2004, Don Brown wrote:

 Sorry, I just moved from Hawaii to California so I haven't been following struts-dev 
 like I should.

Welcome to California! (Did you bring the weather with you? Is that why
it's so nice right now? ;)


 About the TLP vote: +0 - no strong feelings one way or another

Excellent. Now I don't have to modify the resolution at all. ;-)

--
Martin Cooper



 Don

 - Original Message -
 From: Martin Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2004 21:47:05 -0800 (PST)
 To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [RESULT][VOTE] Struts as an Apache Top Level Project

  The response to this vote has been unanimous, with all proposed PMC
  members responding except for two: Arron Bates and Don Brown. I have
  attempted to ping those two directly, but have not yet heard back.
 
  The next board meeting is March 17th, which is next Wednesday. I propose
  to submit our resolution this weekend, for consideration at that meeting.
  In the absence of responses from Arron and Don before then, I will remove
  their names from both lists. They will, of course, be welcome to join the
  PMC at a later time.
 
  If anyone has any objections to the above plan, please speak up now.
 
  --
  Martin Cooper
 
 
  On Sat, 6 Mar 2004, Martin Cooper wrote:
 
   Following up on a brief thread on this list in December [1], Craig, Ted
   and I have put together a draft resolution to the board of directors [2],
   along with a cover letter [3], that would promote Struts to an Apache
   top-level project (TLP).
  
   The main reasons for moving to a TLP are described on the wiki [4]. In
   Craig's words, The short answer, though, is we will be in charge of our
   own releases (currently, the Jakarta PMC is the only body legally
   recognized to vote on releases of *any* software under Jakarta). In
   practice, we can really just continue doing what we've always done.
  
   As most of you are no doubt aware, several Jakarta sub-projects have
   already made the transition to TLPs, including Ant, Avalon, Gump, James,
   Log4J, Maven, OJB, and Torque. Most Jakarta PMC members seem to be in
   favour of the migrations, largely because a single PMC cannot possibly
   oversee a code base the size of all of Jakarta.
  
   If you're OK with Struts being a top-level Apache project, please respond
   to this thread with either a +1 or +0. Otherwise, please reply with your
   concerns. When we previously discussed this, it did not seem like anyone
   was opposed to the idea, but if anyone is, now is the time to speak up.
  
   The resolution as drafted lists the Struts Committers who could
   reasonably be considered active at this time. Of course, we should not
   put anyone on the PMC without their buy-in, so the final resolution would
   only list the Committers who responded to the Vote with a +1 or +0.
  
   The draft resolution also leaves the name of the Vice President blank.
   Craig seems like the logical candidate, and is willing to act in this
   capacity, but we wanted the VP selection to be a community decision. So,
   please also respond with your nomination for Vice President, Apache
   Struts.
  
   Here's my +1 on the resolution as drafted, and my +1 for Craig as Vice
   President.
  
   --
   Martin Cooper
  
   [1] http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/SearchList?listId=[EMAIL 
   PROTECTED]searchText=%22Why+you+*want*+to+be+on+the+PMC%22defaultField=subjectSearch=Search
   [2] http://www.apache.org/~martinc/struts/tlp/resolution.html
   [3] http://www.apache.org/~martinc/struts/tlp/cover.html
   [4] http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JakartaPMCPropsedChanges
  
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[RESULT][VOTE] Struts as an Apache Top Level Project

2004-03-11 Thread Martin Cooper
The response to this vote has been unanimous, with all proposed PMC
members responding except for two: Arron Bates and Don Brown. I have
attempted to ping those two directly, but have not yet heard back.

The next board meeting is March 17th, which is next Wednesday. I propose
to submit our resolution this weekend, for consideration at that meeting.
In the absence of responses from Arron and Don before then, I will remove
their names from both lists. They will, of course, be welcome to join the
PMC at a later time.

If anyone has any objections to the above plan, please speak up now.

--
Martin Cooper


On Sat, 6 Mar 2004, Martin Cooper wrote:

 Following up on a brief thread on this list in December [1], Craig, Ted
 and I have put together a draft resolution to the board of directors [2],
 along with a cover letter [3], that would promote Struts to an Apache
 top-level project (TLP).

 The main reasons for moving to a TLP are described on the wiki [4]. In
 Craig's words, The short answer, though, is we will be in charge of our
 own releases (currently, the Jakarta PMC is the only body legally
 recognized to vote on releases of *any* software under Jakarta). In
 practice, we can really just continue doing what we've always done.

 As most of you are no doubt aware, several Jakarta sub-projects have
 already made the transition to TLPs, including Ant, Avalon, Gump, James,
 Log4J, Maven, OJB, and Torque. Most Jakarta PMC members seem to be in
 favour of the migrations, largely because a single PMC cannot possibly
 oversee a code base the size of all of Jakarta.

 If you're OK with Struts being a top-level Apache project, please respond
 to this thread with either a +1 or +0. Otherwise, please reply with your
 concerns. When we previously discussed this, it did not seem like anyone
 was opposed to the idea, but if anyone is, now is the time to speak up.

 The resolution as drafted lists the Struts Committers who could
 reasonably be considered active at this time. Of course, we should not
 put anyone on the PMC without their buy-in, so the final resolution would
 only list the Committers who responded to the Vote with a +1 or +0.

 The draft resolution also leaves the name of the Vice President blank.
 Craig seems like the logical candidate, and is willing to act in this
 capacity, but we wanted the VP selection to be a community decision. So,
 please also respond with your nomination for Vice President, Apache
 Struts.

 Here's my +1 on the resolution as drafted, and my +1 for Craig as Vice
 President.

 --
 Martin Cooper

 [1] http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/SearchList?listId=[EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]searchText=%22Why+you+*want*+to+be+on+the+PMC%22defaultField=subjectSearch=Search
 [2] http://www.apache.org/~martinc/struts/tlp/resolution.html
 [3] http://www.apache.org/~martinc/struts/tlp/cover.html
 [4] http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JakartaPMCPropsedChanges

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Re: [VOTE] Struts as an Apache Top Level Project

2004-03-11 Thread Arron Bates


+1 for the TLP
+1 for Craig as V-Pres.


Arron.

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Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Struts as an Apache Top Level Project

2004-03-11 Thread Arron Bates
Ooops, just missed it.  :)

No worries. Due to life, I've been conspicuous in my absence, and probably
wouldn't be a ripple in the PMC decision making anyways. Just as long as I can
maintain commit status to support nested tag coders I'm happy. :)

If things change and I get more play time, then I'll knock on the PMC door as
required.


Cheers,

Arron.



 The response to this vote has been unanimous, with all proposed PMC
 members responding except for two: Arron Bates and Don Brown. I have
 attempted to ping those two directly, but have not yet heard back.
 
 The next board meeting is March 17th, which is next Wednesday. I propose
 to submit our resolution this weekend, for consideration at that meeting.
 In the absence of responses from Arron and Don before then, I will remove
 their names from both lists. They will, of course, be welcome to 
 join the PMC at a later time.
 
 If anyone has any objections to the above plan, please speak up now.
 
 --
 Martin Cooper
 
 On Sat, 6 Mar 2004, Martin Cooper wrote:
 
  Following up on a brief thread on this list in December [1], Craig, Ted
  and I have put together a draft resolution to the board of directors [2],
  along with a cover letter [3], that would promote Struts to an Apache
  top-level project (TLP).
 
  The main reasons for moving to a TLP are described on the wiki [4]. In
  Craig's words, The short answer, though, is we will be in charge of our
  own releases (currently, the Jakarta PMC is the only body legally
  recognized to vote on releases of *any* software under Jakarta). In
  practice, we can really just continue doing what we've always done.
 
  As most of you are no doubt aware, several Jakarta sub-projects have
  already made the transition to TLPs, including Ant, Avalon, Gump, James,
  Log4J, Maven, OJB, and Torque. Most Jakarta PMC members seem to be in
  favour of the migrations, largely because a single PMC cannot possibly
  oversee a code base the size of all of Jakarta.
 
  If you're OK with Struts being a top-level Apache project, please respond
  to this thread with either a +1 or +0. Otherwise, please reply with your
  concerns. When we previously discussed this, it did not seem like anyone
  was opposed to the idea, but if anyone is, now is the time to speak up.
 
  The resolution as drafted lists the Struts Committers who could
  reasonably be considered active at this time. Of course, we should not
  put anyone on the PMC without their buy-in, so the final resolution would
  only list the Committers who responded to the Vote with a +1 or +0.
 
  The draft resolution also leaves the name of the Vice President blank.
  Craig seems like the logical candidate, and is willing to act in this
  capacity, but we wanted the VP selection to be a community decision. So,
  please also respond with your nomination for Vice President, Apache
  Struts.
 
  Here's my +1 on the resolution as drafted, and my +1 for Craig as Vice
  President.
 
  --
  Martin Cooper
 
  [1]
http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/SearchList?listId=[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]searchText=%22Why+you+*want*+to+be+on+the+PMC%22defaultField=subjectSearch=Search
  [2] http://www.apache.org/~martinc/struts/tlp/resolution.html
  [3] http://www.apache.org/~martinc/struts/tlp/cover.html
  [4] http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JakartaPMCPropsedChanges
 
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Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Struts as an Apache Top Level Project

2004-03-11 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Since Craig indicated his preference NOT to be VP, how
does this impact this proposal ?

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Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Struts as an Apache Top Level Project

2004-03-11 Thread Martin Cooper
On Thu, 11 Mar 2004, Arron Bates wrote:

 Ooops, just missed it.  :)

Not at all. I won't be sending the proposal to the board until the
weekend, so now that you've responded, you're in. :-)

--
Martin Cooper


 No worries. Due to life, I've been conspicuous in my absence, and probably
 wouldn't be a ripple in the PMC decision making anyways. Just as long as I can
 maintain commit status to support nested tag coders I'm happy. :)

 If things change and I get more play time, then I'll knock on the PMC door as
 required.


 Cheers,

 Arron.



  The response to this vote has been unanimous, with all proposed PMC
  members responding except for two: Arron Bates and Don Brown. I have
  attempted to ping those two directly, but have not yet heard back.
 
  The next board meeting is March 17th, which is next Wednesday. I propose
  to submit our resolution this weekend, for consideration at that meeting.
  In the absence of responses from Arron and Don before then, I will remove
  their names from both lists. They will, of course, be welcome to
  join the PMC at a later time.
 
  If anyone has any objections to the above plan, please speak up now.
 
  --
  Martin Cooper
 
  On Sat, 6 Mar 2004, Martin Cooper wrote:
 
   Following up on a brief thread on this list in December [1], Craig, Ted
   and I have put together a draft resolution to the board of directors [2],
   along with a cover letter [3], that would promote Struts to an Apache
   top-level project (TLP).
  
   The main reasons for moving to a TLP are described on the wiki [4]. In
   Craig's words, The short answer, though, is we will be in charge of our
   own releases (currently, the Jakarta PMC is the only body legally
   recognized to vote on releases of *any* software under Jakarta). In
   practice, we can really just continue doing what we've always done.
  
   As most of you are no doubt aware, several Jakarta sub-projects have
   already made the transition to TLPs, including Ant, Avalon, Gump, James,
   Log4J, Maven, OJB, and Torque. Most Jakarta PMC members seem to be in
   favour of the migrations, largely because a single PMC cannot possibly
   oversee a code base the size of all of Jakarta.
  
   If you're OK with Struts being a top-level Apache project, please respond
   to this thread with either a +1 or +0. Otherwise, please reply with your
   concerns. When we previously discussed this, it did not seem like anyone
   was opposed to the idea, but if anyone is, now is the time to speak up.
  
   The resolution as drafted lists the Struts Committers who could
   reasonably be considered active at this time. Of course, we should not
   put anyone on the PMC without their buy-in, so the final resolution would
   only list the Committers who responded to the Vote with a +1 or +0.
  
   The draft resolution also leaves the name of the Vice President blank.
   Craig seems like the logical candidate, and is willing to act in this
   capacity, but we wanted the VP selection to be a community decision. So,
   please also respond with your nomination for Vice President, Apache
   Struts.
  
   Here's my +1 on the resolution as drafted, and my +1 for Craig as Vice
   President.
  
   --
   Martin Cooper
  
   [1]
 http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/SearchList?listId=[EMAIL 
 PROTECTED]searchText=%22Why+you+*want*+to+be+on+the+PMC%22defaultField=subjectSearch=Search
   [2] http://www.apache.org/~martinc/struts/tlp/resolution.html
   [3] http://www.apache.org/~martinc/struts/tlp/cover.html
   [4] http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JakartaPMCPropsedChanges
  
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Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Struts as an Apache Top Level Project

2004-03-11 Thread Martin Cooper
On Fri, 12 Mar 2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Since Craig indicated his preference NOT to be VP, how
 does this impact this proposal ?

I don't believe that's the case. Craig indicated that he *is* willing to
be Vice President, but pointed out that his being VP isn't a necessary
condition for Struts becoming a TLP. He voted +0, after all.

--
Martin Cooper



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Re: [VOTE] Struts as an Apache Top Level Project

2004-03-08 Thread Cedric Dumoulin
+1 to submit the draft TLP resolution. 

 +1 to nominate Craig as VP.

 Cedric



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RE: [VOTE] Struts as an Apache Top Level Project

2004-03-07 Thread Steve Raeburn
+1 Struts TLP
+1 Craig for President in 2004. (Sorry, VP)

Steve

 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: March 6, 2004 11:20 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [VOTE] Struts as an Apache Top Level Project


 Following up on a brief thread on this list in December [1],
 Craig, Ted
 and I have put together a draft resolution to the board of
 directors [2],
 along with a cover letter [3], that would promote Struts to an Apache
 top-level project (TLP).

 The main reasons for moving to a TLP are described on the wiki [4]. In
 Craig's words, The short answer, though, is we will be in
 charge of our
 own releases (currently, the Jakarta PMC is the only body legally
 recognized to vote on releases of *any* software under Jakarta). In
 practice, we can really just continue doing what we've always done.

 As most of you are no doubt aware, several Jakarta sub-projects have
 already made the transition to TLPs, including Ant, Avalon,
 Gump, James,
 Log4J, Maven, OJB, and Torque. Most Jakarta PMC members seem to be in
 favour of the migrations, largely because a single PMC cannot possibly
 oversee a code base the size of all of Jakarta.

 If you're OK with Struts being a top-level Apache project,
 please respond
 to this thread with either a +1 or +0. Otherwise, please
 reply with your
 concerns. When we previously discussed this, it did not seem
 like anyone
 was opposed to the idea, but if anyone is, now is the time to
 speak up.

 The resolution as drafted lists the Struts Committers who could
 reasonably be considered active at this time. Of course, we should not
 put anyone on the PMC without their buy-in, so the final
 resolution would
 only list the Committers who responded to the Vote with a +1 or +0.

 The draft resolution also leaves the name of the Vice President blank.
 Craig seems like the logical candidate, and is willing to act in this
 capacity, but we wanted the VP selection to be a community
 decision. So,
 please also respond with your nomination for Vice President, Apache
 Struts.

 Here's my +1 on the resolution as drafted, and my +1 for Craig as Vice
 President.

 --
 Martin Cooper

 [1]
http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/SearchList?listId=listName=struts-de
[EMAIL PROTECTED]searchText=%22Why+you+*want*+to+be+on+the+PMC%22de
faultField=subjectSearch=Search
[2] http://www.apache.org/~martinc/struts/tlp/resolution.html
[3] http://www.apache.org/~martinc/struts/tlp/cover.html
[4]
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RE: [VOTE] Struts as an Apache Top Level Project

2004-03-07 Thread Alberto Corona
+1 Struts TLP
+1 Craig for VP

quot;Struts Developers Listquot; lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote: 
 +1 Struts TLP
 +1 Craig for President in 2004. (Sorry, VP)
 
 Steve
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Martin Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: March 6, 2004 11:20 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [VOTE] Struts as an Apache Top Level Project
 
 
  Following up on a brief thread on this list in December [1],
  Craig, Ted
  and I have put together a draft resolution to the board of
  directors [2],
  along with a cover letter [3], that would promote Struts to an Apache
  top-level project (TLP).
 
  The main reasons for moving to a TLP are described on the wiki [4]. In
  Craig's words, The short answer, though, is we will be in
  charge of our
  own releases (currently, the Jakarta PMC is the only body legally
  recognized to vote on releases of *any* software under Jakarta). In
  practice, we can really just continue doing what we've always done.
 
  As most of you are no doubt aware, several Jakarta sub-projects have
  already made the transition to TLPs, including Ant, Avalon,
  Gump, James,
  Log4J, Maven, OJB, and Torque. Most Jakarta PMC members seem to be in
  favour of the migrations, largely because a single PMC cannot possibly
  oversee a code base the size of all of Jakarta.
 
  If you're OK with Struts being a top-level Apache project,
  please respond
  to this thread with either a +1 or +0. Otherwise, please
  reply with your
  concerns. When we previously discussed this, it did not seem
  like anyone
  was opposed to the idea, but if anyone is, now is the time to
  speak up.
 
  The resolution as drafted lists the Struts Committers who could
  reasonably be considered active at this time. Of course, we should not
  put anyone on the PMC without their buy-in, so the final
  resolution would
  only list the Committers who responded to the Vote with a +1 or +0.
 
  The draft resolution also leaves the name of the Vice President blank.
  Craig seems like the logical candidate, and is willing to act in this
  capacity, but we wanted the VP selection to be a community
  decision. So,
  please also respond with your nomination for Vice President, Apache
  Struts.
 
  Here's my +1 on the resolution as drafted, and my +1 for Craig as Vice
  President.
 
  --
  Martin Cooper
 
  [1]
 http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/SearchList?listId=listName=struts-de
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]searchText=%22Why+you+*want*+to+be+on+the+PMC%22de
 faultField=subjectSearch=Search
 [2] http://www.apache.org/~martinc/struts/tlp/resolution.html
 [3] http://www.apache.org/~martinc/struts/tlp/cover.html
 [4]
 http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JakartaPMCPropsedChanges
 
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Re: [VOTE] Struts as an Apache Top Level Project

2004-03-07 Thread David Graham
+1 TLP
+1 Craig as VP

David

--- Martin Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Following up on a brief thread on this list in December [1], Craig, Ted
 and I have put together a draft resolution to the board of directors
 [2],
 along with a cover letter [3], that would promote Struts to an Apache
 top-level project (TLP).
 
 The main reasons for moving to a TLP are described on the wiki [4]. In
 Craig's words, The short answer, though, is we will be in charge of our
 own releases (currently, the Jakarta PMC is the only body legally
 recognized to vote on releases of *any* software under Jakarta). In
 practice, we can really just continue doing what we've always done.
 
 As most of you are no doubt aware, several Jakarta sub-projects have
 already made the transition to TLPs, including Ant, Avalon, Gump, James,
 Log4J, Maven, OJB, and Torque. Most Jakarta PMC members seem to be in
 favour of the migrations, largely because a single PMC cannot possibly
 oversee a code base the size of all of Jakarta.
 
 If you're OK with Struts being a top-level Apache project, please
 respond
 to this thread with either a +1 or +0. Otherwise, please reply with your
 concerns. When we previously discussed this, it did not seem like anyone
 was opposed to the idea, but if anyone is, now is the time to speak up.
 
 The resolution as drafted lists the Struts Committers who could
 reasonably be considered active at this time. Of course, we should not
 put anyone on the PMC without their buy-in, so the final resolution
 would
 only list the Committers who responded to the Vote with a +1 or +0.
 
 The draft resolution also leaves the name of the Vice President blank.
 Craig seems like the logical candidate, and is willing to act in this
 capacity, but we wanted the VP selection to be a community decision. So,
 please also respond with your nomination for Vice President, Apache
 Struts.
 
 Here's my +1 on the resolution as drafted, and my +1 for Craig as Vice
 President.
 
 --
 Martin Cooper
 
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Re: [VOTE] Struts as an Apache Top Level Project

2004-03-07 Thread vshaiva
+1

- Original Message -
From: David Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sunday, March 7, 2004 4:42 pm
Subject: Re: [VOTE] Struts as an Apache Top Level Project

 +1 TLP
 +1 Craig as VP
 
 David
 
 --- Martin Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Following up on a brief thread on this list in December [1], 
 Craig, Ted
  and I have put together a draft resolution to the board of directors
  [2],
  along with a cover letter [3], that would promote Struts to an 
 Apache top-level project (TLP).
  
  The main reasons for moving to a TLP are described on the wiki 
 [4]. In
  Craig's words, The short answer, though, is we will be in 
 charge of our
  own releases (currently, the Jakarta PMC is the only body legally
  recognized to vote on releases of *any* software under 
 Jakarta). In
  practice, we can really just continue doing what we've always done.
  
  As most of you are no doubt aware, several Jakarta sub-projects have
  already made the transition to TLPs, including Ant, Avalon, 
 Gump, James,
  Log4J, Maven, OJB, and Torque. Most Jakarta PMC members seem to 
 be in
  favour of the migrations, largely because a single PMC cannot 
 possibly oversee a code base the size of all of Jakarta.
  
  If you're OK with Struts being a top-level Apache project, please
  respond
  to this thread with either a +1 or +0. Otherwise, please reply 
 with your
  concerns. When we previously discussed this, it did not seem 
 like anyone
  was opposed to the idea, but if anyone is, now is the time to 
 speak up.
  
  The resolution as drafted lists the Struts Committers who could
  reasonably be considered active at this time. Of course, we 
 should not
  put anyone on the PMC without their buy-in, so the final resolution
  would
  only list the Committers who responded to the Vote with a +1 or +0.
  
  The draft resolution also leaves the name of the Vice President 
 blank. Craig seems like the logical candidate, and is willing to 
 act in this
  capacity, but we wanted the VP selection to be a community 
 decision. So,
  please also respond with your nomination for Vice President, Apache
  Struts.
  
  Here's my +1 on the resolution as drafted, and my +1 for Craig 
 as Vice
  President.
  
  --
  Martin Cooper
  
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[VOTE] Struts as an Apache Top Level Project

2004-03-06 Thread Martin Cooper
Following up on a brief thread on this list in December [1], Craig, Ted
and I have put together a draft resolution to the board of directors [2],
along with a cover letter [3], that would promote Struts to an Apache
top-level project (TLP).

The main reasons for moving to a TLP are described on the wiki [4]. In
Craig's words, The short answer, though, is we will be in charge of our
own releases (currently, the Jakarta PMC is the only body legally
recognized to vote on releases of *any* software under Jakarta). In
practice, we can really just continue doing what we've always done.

As most of you are no doubt aware, several Jakarta sub-projects have
already made the transition to TLPs, including Ant, Avalon, Gump, James,
Log4J, Maven, OJB, and Torque. Most Jakarta PMC members seem to be in
favour of the migrations, largely because a single PMC cannot possibly
oversee a code base the size of all of Jakarta.

If you're OK with Struts being a top-level Apache project, please respond
to this thread with either a +1 or +0. Otherwise, please reply with your
concerns. When we previously discussed this, it did not seem like anyone
was opposed to the idea, but if anyone is, now is the time to speak up.

The resolution as drafted lists the Struts Committers who could
reasonably be considered active at this time. Of course, we should not
put anyone on the PMC without their buy-in, so the final resolution would
only list the Committers who responded to the Vote with a +1 or +0.

The draft resolution also leaves the name of the Vice President blank.
Craig seems like the logical candidate, and is willing to act in this
capacity, but we wanted the VP selection to be a community decision. So,
please also respond with your nomination for Vice President, Apache
Struts.

Here's my +1 on the resolution as drafted, and my +1 for Craig as Vice
President.

--
Martin Cooper

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PROTECTED]searchText=%22Why+you+*want*+to+be+on+the+PMC%22defaultField=subjectSearch=Search
[2] http://www.apache.org/~martinc/struts/tlp/resolution.html
[3] http://www.apache.org/~martinc/struts/tlp/cover.html
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Re: [VOTE] Struts as an Apache Top Level Project

2004-03-06 Thread Joe Germuska
Following up on a brief thread on this list in December [1], Craig, Ted
and I have put together a draft resolution to the board of directors [2],
along with a cover letter [3], that would promote Struts to an Apache
top-level project (TLP).
The main reasons for moving to a TLP are described on the wiki [4]. In
Craig's words, The short answer, though, is we will be in charge of our
own releases (currently, the Jakarta PMC is the only body legally
recognized to vote on releases of *any* software under Jakarta). In
practice, we can really just continue doing what we've always done.
As most of you are no doubt aware, several Jakarta sub-projects have
already made the transition to TLPs, including Ant, Avalon, Gump, James,
Log4J, Maven, OJB, and Torque. Most Jakarta PMC members seem to be in
favour of the migrations, largely because a single PMC cannot possibly
oversee a code base the size of all of Jakarta.
If you're OK with Struts being a top-level Apache project, please respond
to this thread with either a +1 or +0. Otherwise, please reply with your
concerns. When we previously discussed this, it did not seem like anyone
was opposed to the idea, but if anyone is, now is the time to speak up.
The resolution as drafted lists the Struts Committers who could
reasonably be considered active at this time. Of course, we should not
put anyone on the PMC without their buy-in, so the final resolution would
only list the Committers who responded to the Vote with a +1 or +0.
The draft resolution also leaves the name of the Vice President blank.
Craig seems like the logical candidate, and is willing to act in this
capacity, but we wanted the VP selection to be a community decision. So,
please also respond with your nomination for Vice President, Apache
Struts.
Here's my +1 on the resolution as drafted, and my +1 for Craig as Vice
President.
+1 for Struts as a top level project
+1 for Craig as VP
Please feel free to add my name to the cover letter.

Joe

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Re: [VOTE] Struts as an Apache Top Level Project

2004-03-06 Thread Martin Cooper
On Sat, 6 Mar 2004, Joe Germuska wrote:

 Following up on a brief thread on this list in December [1], Craig, Ted
 and I have put together a draft resolution to the board of directors [2],
 along with a cover letter [3], that would promote Struts to an Apache
 top-level project (TLP).
 
 The main reasons for moving to a TLP are described on the wiki [4]. In
 Craig's words, The short answer, though, is we will be in charge of our
 own releases (currently, the Jakarta PMC is the only body legally
 recognized to vote on releases of *any* software under Jakarta). In
 practice, we can really just continue doing what we've always done.
 
 As most of you are no doubt aware, several Jakarta sub-projects have
 already made the transition to TLPs, including Ant, Avalon, Gump, James,
 Log4J, Maven, OJB, and Torque. Most Jakarta PMC members seem to be in
 favour of the migrations, largely because a single PMC cannot possibly
 oversee a code base the size of all of Jakarta.
 
 If you're OK with Struts being a top-level Apache project, please respond
 to this thread with either a +1 or +0. Otherwise, please reply with your
 concerns. When we previously discussed this, it did not seem like anyone
 was opposed to the idea, but if anyone is, now is the time to speak up.
 
 The resolution as drafted lists the Struts Committers who could
 reasonably be considered active at this time. Of course, we should not
 put anyone on the PMC without their buy-in, so the final resolution would
 only list the Committers who responded to the Vote with a +1 or +0.
 
 The draft resolution also leaves the name of the Vice President blank.
 Craig seems like the logical candidate, and is willing to act in this
 capacity, but we wanted the VP selection to be a community decision. So,
 please also respond with your nomination for Vice President, Apache
 Struts.
 
 Here's my +1 on the resolution as drafted, and my +1 for Craig as Vice
 President.

 +1 for Struts as a top level project
 +1 for Craig as VP

 Please feel free to add my name to the cover letter.

Done. I have also added you to the proposed PMC. I apologise for missing
your name off the list - it should have been on both from the start.

--
Martin Cooper



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RE: [VOTE] Struts as an Apache Top Level Project

2004-03-06 Thread James Holmes
+1 for TLP
+1 Craig VP

-James

-Original Message-
From: Martin Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 2:20 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [VOTE] Struts as an Apache Top Level Project

Following up on a brief thread on this list in December [1], Craig, Ted
and I have put together a draft resolution to the board of directors [2],
along with a cover letter [3], that would promote Struts to an Apache
top-level project (TLP).

The main reasons for moving to a TLP are described on the wiki [4]. In
Craig's words, The short answer, though, is we will be in charge of our
own releases (currently, the Jakarta PMC is the only body legally
recognized to vote on releases of *any* software under Jakarta). In
practice, we can really just continue doing what we've always done.

As most of you are no doubt aware, several Jakarta sub-projects have
already made the transition to TLPs, including Ant, Avalon, Gump, James,
Log4J, Maven, OJB, and Torque. Most Jakarta PMC members seem to be in
favour of the migrations, largely because a single PMC cannot possibly
oversee a code base the size of all of Jakarta.

If you're OK with Struts being a top-level Apache project, please respond
to this thread with either a +1 or +0. Otherwise, please reply with your
concerns. When we previously discussed this, it did not seem like anyone
was opposed to the idea, but if anyone is, now is the time to speak up.

The resolution as drafted lists the Struts Committers who could
reasonably be considered active at this time. Of course, we should not
put anyone on the PMC without their buy-in, so the final resolution would
only list the Committers who responded to the Vote with a +1 or +0.

The draft resolution also leaves the name of the Vice President blank.
Craig seems like the logical candidate, and is willing to act in this
capacity, but we wanted the VP selection to be a community decision. So,
please also respond with your nomination for Vice President, Apache
Struts.

Here's my +1 on the resolution as drafted, and my +1 for Craig as Vice
President.

--
Martin Cooper

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[2] http://www.apache.org/~martinc/struts/tlp/resolution.html
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Re: [VOTE] Struts as an Apache Top Level Project

2004-03-06 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
+1 on the TLP proposal.

+0 on me as VP (I'm willing, but don't consider this a prerequisite to
TLP-ness), although I should point out that this is actually only a
*recommendation* to the ASF Board.  The Board is free to appoint whomever they
wish, although they've historically tended to go along with the community's
recommendations in this regard.

Craig

(And +1 on adding Joe to the list -- sorry about that!)

Quoting Martin Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Following up on a brief thread on this list in December [1], Craig, Ted
 and I have put together a draft resolution to the board of directors [2],
 along with a cover letter [3], that would promote Struts to an Apache
 top-level project (TLP).
 
 The main reasons for moving to a TLP are described on the wiki [4]. In
 Craig's words, The short answer, though, is we will be in charge of our
 own releases (currently, the Jakarta PMC is the only body legally
 recognized to vote on releases of *any* software under Jakarta). In
 practice, we can really just continue doing what we've always done.
 
 As most of you are no doubt aware, several Jakarta sub-projects have
 already made the transition to TLPs, including Ant, Avalon, Gump, James,
 Log4J, Maven, OJB, and Torque. Most Jakarta PMC members seem to be in
 favour of the migrations, largely because a single PMC cannot possibly
 oversee a code base the size of all of Jakarta.
 
 If you're OK with Struts being a top-level Apache project, please respond
 to this thread with either a +1 or +0. Otherwise, please reply with your
 concerns. When we previously discussed this, it did not seem like anyone
 was opposed to the idea, but if anyone is, now is the time to speak up.
 
 The resolution as drafted lists the Struts Committers who could
 reasonably be considered active at this time. Of course, we should not
 put anyone on the PMC without their buy-in, so the final resolution would
 only list the Committers who responded to the Vote with a +1 or +0.
 
 The draft resolution also leaves the name of the Vice President blank.
 Craig seems like the logical candidate, and is willing to act in this
 capacity, but we wanted the VP selection to be a community decision. So,
 please also respond with your nomination for Vice President, Apache
 Struts.
 
 Here's my +1 on the resolution as drafted, and my +1 for Craig as Vice
 President.
 
 --
 Martin Cooper
 
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 [2] http://www.apache.org/~martinc/struts/tlp/resolution.html
 [3] http://www.apache.org/~martinc/struts/tlp/cover.html
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Re: [VOTE] Struts as an Apache Top Level Project

2004-03-06 Thread Ted Husted
+1 to submit the draft TLP resolution.

+1 to nominate Craig as VP.

-Ted.

On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 11:20:01 -0800 (PST), Martin Cooper wrote:
 Following up on a brief thread on this list in December [1], Craig,
 Ted and I have put together a draft resolution to the board of
 directors [2], along with a cover letter [3], that would promote
 Struts to an Apache top-level project (TLP).

 The main reasons for moving to a TLP are described on the wiki [4].
 In Craig's words, The short answer, though, is we will be in
 charge of our own releases (currently, the Jakarta PMC is the only
 body legally recognized to vote on releases of *any* software under
 Jakarta). In practice, we can really just continue doing what
 we've always done.

 As most of you are no doubt aware, several Jakarta sub-projects
 have already made the transition to TLPs, including Ant, Avalon,
 Gump, James, Log4J, Maven, OJB, and Torque. Most Jakarta PMC
 members seem to be in favour of the migrations, largely because a
 single PMC cannot possibly oversee a code base the size of all of
 Jakarta.

 If you're OK with Struts being a top-level Apache project, please
 respond to this thread with either a +1 or +0. Otherwise, please
 reply with your concerns. When we previously discussed this, it did
 not seem like anyone was opposed to the idea, but if anyone is, now
 is the time to speak up.

 The resolution as drafted lists the Struts Committers who could
 reasonably be considered active at this time. Of course, we should
 not put anyone on the PMC without their buy-in, so the final
 resolution would only list the Committers who responded to the Vote
 with a +1 or +0.

 The draft resolution also leaves the name of the Vice President
 blank. Craig seems like the logical candidate, and is willing to
 act in this capacity, but we wanted the VP selection to be a
 community decision. So, please also respond with your nomination
 for Vice President, Apache Struts.

 Here's my +1 on the resolution as drafted, and my +1 for Craig as
 Vice President.

 --
 Martin Cooper


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Re: [VOTE] Struts as an Apache Top Level Project

2004-03-06 Thread James Mitchell
+1 - Struts as top level project
+1 - Recommend Craig as VP of Apache Struts


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- Original Message -
From: Martin Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 2:20 PM
Subject: [VOTE] Struts as an Apache Top Level Project


 Following up on a brief thread on this list in December [1], Craig, Ted
 and I have put together a draft resolution to the board of directors [2],
 along with a cover letter [3], that would promote Struts to an Apache
 top-level project (TLP).

 The main reasons for moving to a TLP are described on the wiki [4]. In
 Craig's words, The short answer, though, is we will be in charge of our
 own releases (currently, the Jakarta PMC is the only body legally
 recognized to vote on releases of *any* software under Jakarta). In
 practice, we can really just continue doing what we've always done.

 As most of you are no doubt aware, several Jakarta sub-projects have
 already made the transition to TLPs, including Ant, Avalon, Gump, James,
 Log4J, Maven, OJB, and Torque. Most Jakarta PMC members seem to be in
 favour of the migrations, largely because a single PMC cannot possibly
 oversee a code base the size of all of Jakarta.

 If you're OK with Struts being a top-level Apache project, please respond
 to this thread with either a +1 or +0. Otherwise, please reply with your
 concerns. When we previously discussed this, it did not seem like anyone
 was opposed to the idea, but if anyone is, now is the time to speak up.

 The resolution as drafted lists the Struts Committers who could
 reasonably be considered active at this time. Of course, we should not
 put anyone on the PMC without their buy-in, so the final resolution would
 only list the Committers who responded to the Vote with a +1 or +0.

 The draft resolution also leaves the name of the Vice President blank.
 Craig seems like the logical candidate, and is willing to act in this
 capacity, but we wanted the VP selection to be a community decision. So,
 please also respond with your nomination for Vice President, Apache
 Struts.

 Here's my +1 on the resolution as drafted, and my +1 for Craig as Vice
 President.

 --
 Martin Cooper

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 [2] http://www.apache.org/~martinc/struts/tlp/resolution.html
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Re: [VOTE] Struts as an Apache Top Level Project

2004-03-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
+1 for Struts TLP  +1 for Craig as VP

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