[FW] Struts IRC Channel
My apologies if this was sent again. It was inadvertent. Please disregard. Nick Heudecker Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fon: 734.604.9192 -- Forwarded message -- Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:57:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Struts IRC Channel Hi, I've recently started hanging out in #struts on irc.freenode.net to help answer questions relating to the framework. I don't know that much about some of the esoteric areas of Struts, so I would really appreciate it if some of the developers would idle there and field the occasional question. Activity is very low, so the load shouldn't be too high. If you think that this is a waste of time, let me know how you'd improve upon it. Sending people to mailing list archives doesn't always work as the search functionality isn't great. Thanks for your time. -Nick -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev-help;jakarta.apache.org
RE: Struts IRC Channel
+1 on staying away from IRC. IMHO, IRC fragments the community we have on the lists. It also lessens the pool of people who can answer any given question, for a variety of reasons. Who's going to give authoritative answers to Tiles questions asked at 3am French time? ;-) -- Martin Cooper -Original Message- From: James Mitchell [mailto:jmitchtx;telocity.com] Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 12:42 PM To: Struts Developers List Subject: RE: Struts IRC Channel I totally agree with you David. I've collected an enormous amount of FAQ material (which I haven't organized yet) from this and the users list over the last 6 or 7 months. What good does it do to solve a really tricky problem if no one else can take advantage of that knowledge transfer? I'll be adding the new FAQ material and a few 'how to' sections soon. (for example: How to setup Netbeans to step through and debug your web application on Tomcat using Remote Debugging - a pictorial guide) James Mitchell Software Engineer/Struts Evangelist http://www.open-tools.org Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein (1879-1955) -Original Message- From: David Graham [mailto:dgraham1980;hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 3:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Struts IRC Channel I for one, will not be answering questions on another forum. It's hard enough to keep up with the questions on this list :-). Also, I think it's a good that there be a central place to ask Struts questions. David From: Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Struts IRC Channel Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:57:00 -0400 (EDT) Hi, I've recently started hanging out in #struts on irc.freenode.net to help answer questions relating to the framework. I don't know that much about some of the esoteric areas of Struts, so I would really appreciate it if some of the developers would idle there and field the occasional question. Activity is very low, so the load shouldn't be too high. If you think that this is a waste of time, let me know how you'd improve upon it. Sending people to mailing list archives doesn't always work as the search functionality isn't great. Thanks for your time. -Nick -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev-help;jakarta.apache.org _ Get faster connections -- switch to MSN Internet Access! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev-help;jakarta.apache.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev-help;jakarta.apache.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev-help;jakarta.apache.org
Re: Struts IRC Channel
Also, if a question is answered, at least in theory you can say Search the mail archive for post X and thus preserving the knowledge. .V Martin Cooper wrote: +1 on staying away from IRC. IMHO, IRC fragments the community we have on the lists. It also lessens the pool of people who can answer any given question, for a variety of reasons. Who's going to give authoritative answers to Tiles questions asked at 3am French time? ;-) -- Martin Cooper -Original Message- From: James Mitchell [mailto:jmitchtx;telocity.com] Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 12:42 PM To: Struts Developers List Subject: RE: Struts IRC Channel I totally agree with you David. I've collected an enormous amount of FAQ material (which I haven't organized yet) from this and the users list over the last 6 or 7 months. What good does it do to solve a really tricky problem if no one else can take advantage of that knowledge transfer? I'll be adding the new FAQ material and a few 'how to' sections soon. (for example: How to setup Netbeans to step through and debug your web application on Tomcat using Remote Debugging - a pictorial guide) James Mitchell Software Engineer/Struts Evangelist http://www.open-tools.org Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein (1879-1955) -Original Message- From: David Graham [mailto:dgraham1980;hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 3:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Struts IRC Channel I for one, will not be answering questions on another forum. It's hard enough to keep up with the questions on this list :-). Also, I think it's a good that there be a central place to ask Struts questions. David From: Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Struts IRC Channel Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:57:00 -0400 (EDT) Hi, I've recently started hanging out in #struts on irc.freenode.net to help answer questions relating to the framework. I don't know that much about some of the esoteric areas of Struts, so I would really appreciate it if some of the developers would idle there and field the occasional question. Activity is very low, so the load shouldn't be too high. If you think that this is a waste of time, let me know how you'd improve upon it. Sending people to mailing list archives doesn't always work as the search functionality isn't great. Thanks for your time. -Nick -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev-help;jakarta.apache.org _ Get faster connections -- switch to MSN Internet Access! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev-help;jakarta.apache.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev-help;jakarta.apache.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev-help;jakarta.apache.org
Re: Struts IRC Channel
Not sure how much of an issue this is - I've been on and off the IRC channel all day just to check it out and have yet to see anyone there other than a single sysop... V. Cekvenich [EMAIL PROTECTED]@main.gmane.org on 10/28/2002 03:31:20 PM Please respond to Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:news [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: (bcc: Kevin Bedell/Systems/USHO/SunLife) Subject:Re: Struts IRC Channel Also, if a question is answered, at least in theory you can say Search the mail archive for post X and thus preserving the knowledge. .V Martin Cooper wrote: +1 on staying away from IRC. IMHO, IRC fragments the community we have on the lists. It also lessens the pool of people who can answer any given question, for a variety of reasons. Who's going to give authoritative answers to Tiles questions asked at 3am French time? ;-) -- Martin Cooper -Original Message- From: James Mitchell [mailto:jmitchtx;telocity.com] Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 12:42 PM To: Struts Developers List Subject: RE: Struts IRC Channel I totally agree with you David. I've collected an enormous amount of FAQ material (which I haven't organized yet) from this and the users list over the last 6 or 7 months. What good does it do to solve a really tricky problem if no one else can take advantage of that knowledge transfer? I'll be adding the new FAQ material and a few 'how to' sections soon. (for example: How to setup Netbeans to step through and debug your web application on Tomcat using Remote Debugging - a pictorial guide) James Mitchell Software Engineer/Struts Evangelist http://www.open-tools.org Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein (1879-1955) -Original Message- From: David Graham [mailto:dgraham1980;hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 3:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Struts IRC Channel I for one, will not be answering questions on another forum. It's hard enough to keep up with the questions on this list :-). Also, I think it's a good that there be a central place to ask Struts questions. David From: Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Struts IRC Channel Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:57:00 -0400 (EDT) Hi, I've recently started hanging out in #struts on irc.freenode.net to help answer questions relating to the framework. I don't know that much about some of the esoteric areas of Struts, so I would really appreciate it if some of the developers would idle there and field the occasional question. Activity is very low, so the load shouldn't be too high. If you think that this is a waste of time, let me know how you'd improve upon it. Sending people to mailing list archives doesn't always work as the search functionality isn't great. Thanks for your time. -Nick -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev-help;jakarta.apache.org _ Get faster connections -- switch to MSN Internet Access! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev-help;jakarta.apache.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev-help;jakarta.apache.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev-help;jakarta.apache.org --- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. --- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev-help;jakarta.apache.org
RE: Struts IRC Channel
Hey I think it is a neat idea. IMHO I'd love to see jakarta with it's own Jabber client/p2p system but I'm not sure this will work. I find the mailing list is fine for most purposes and though the search on the archive isn't great it does give us a persistent archive where the irc chat sessions are by definition transient... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Kevin.Bedell;sunlife.com] Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 5:05 PM To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: Struts IRC Channel Not sure how much of an issue this is - I've been on and off the IRC channel all day just to check it out and have yet to see anyone there other than a single sysop... V. Cekvenich [EMAIL PROTECTED]@main.gmane.org on 10/28/2002 03:31:20 PM Please respond to Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:news [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: (bcc: Kevin Bedell/Systems/USHO/SunLife) Subject:Re: Struts IRC Channel Also, if a question is answered, at least in theory you can say Search the mail archive for post X and thus preserving the knowledge. .V Martin Cooper wrote: +1 on staying away from IRC. IMHO, IRC fragments the community we have on the lists. It also lessens the pool of people who can answer any given question, for a variety of reasons. Who's going to give authoritative answers to Tiles questions asked at 3am French time? ;-) -- Martin Cooper -Original Message- From: James Mitchell [mailto:jmitchtx;telocity.com] Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 12:42 PM To: Struts Developers List Subject: RE: Struts IRC Channel I totally agree with you David. I've collected an enormous amount of FAQ material (which I haven't organized yet) from this and the users list over the last 6 or 7 months. What good does it do to solve a really tricky problem if no one else can take advantage of that knowledge transfer? I'll be adding the new FAQ material and a few 'how to' sections soon. (for example: How to setup Netbeans to step through and debug your web application on Tomcat using Remote Debugging - a pictorial guide) James Mitchell Software Engineer/Struts Evangelist http://www.open-tools.org Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein (1879-1955) -Original Message- From: David Graham [mailto:dgraham1980;hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 3:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Struts IRC Channel I for one, will not be answering questions on another forum. It's hard enough to keep up with the questions on this list :-). Also, I think it's a good that there be a central place to ask Struts questions. David From: Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Struts IRC Channel Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:57:00 -0400 (EDT) Hi, I've recently started hanging out in #struts on irc.freenode.net to help answer questions relating to the framework. I don't know that much about some of the esoteric areas of Struts, so I would really appreciate it if some of the developers would idle there and field the occasional question. Activity is very low, so the load shouldn't be too high. If you think that this is a waste of time, let me know how you'd improve upon it. Sending people to mailing list archives doesn't always work as the search functionality isn't great. Thanks for your time. -Nick -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev-help;jakarta.apache.org _ Get faster connections -- switch to MSN Internet Access! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev-help;jakarta.apache.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev-help;jakarta.apache.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev-help;jakarta.apache.org --- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender and erase this e-mail message immediately. --- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail
Re: RE: Struts IRC Channel
James, If you or anyone else want to work on improving the jGuru FAQ, I could share with you the manager's logon. The search capabilities there are much better, and jGuru has a firm commitment to supporting the open source community. I believe we should also be able to export the material back out as XML if we wanted to retain a copy for safekeeping. Though, I think larger topics, like setting up Netbeans, are very appropriate for a HOWTO section in the Users Guide (or whatever). -Ted. 10/26/2002 3:42:01 PM, James Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I totally agree with you David. I've collected an enormous amount of FAQ material (which I haven't organized yet) from this and the users list over the last 6 or 7 months. What good does it do to solve a really tricky problem if no one else can take advantage of that knowledge transfer? I'll be adding the new FAQ material and a few 'how to' sections soon. (for example: How to setup Netbeans to step through and debug your web application on Tomcat using Remote Debugging - a pictorial guide) James Mitchell Software Engineer/Struts Evangelist http://www.open-tools.org Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein (1879-1955) -Original Message- From: David Graham [mailto:dgraham1980;hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 3:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Struts IRC Channel I for one, will not be answering questions on another forum. It's hard enough to keep up with the questions on this list :-). Also, I think it's a good that there be a central place to ask Struts questions. David From: Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Developers List struts- [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Struts IRC Channel Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:57:00 -0400 (EDT) Hi, I've recently started hanging out in #struts on irc.freenode.net to help answer questions relating to the framework. I don't know that much about some of the esoteric areas of Struts, so I would really appreciate it if some of the developers would idle there and field the occasional question. Activity is very low, so the load shouldn't be too high. If you think that this is a waste of time, let me know how you'd improve upon it. Sending people to mailing list archives doesn't always work as the search functionality isn't great. Thanks for your time. -Nick -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev-help;jakarta.apache.org ___ __ Get faster connections -- switch to MSN Internet Access! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev- [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev-help;jakarta.apache.org
Struts IRC Channel
Hi, I've recently started hanging out in #struts on irc.freenode.net to help answer questions relating to the framework. I don't know that much about some of the esoteric areas of Struts, so I would really appreciate it if some of the developers would idle there and field the occasional question. Activity is very low, so the load shouldn't be too high. If you think that this is a waste of time, let me know how you'd improve upon it. Sending people to mailing list archives doesn't always work as the search functionality isn't great. Thanks for your time. -Nick -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev-help;jakarta.apache.org
Re: Struts IRC Channel
I for one, will not be answering questions on another forum. It's hard enough to keep up with the questions on this list :-). Also, I think it's a good that there be a central place to ask Struts questions. David From: Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Struts IRC Channel Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:57:00 -0400 (EDT) Hi, I've recently started hanging out in #struts on irc.freenode.net to help answer questions relating to the framework. I don't know that much about some of the esoteric areas of Struts, so I would really appreciate it if some of the developers would idle there and field the occasional question. Activity is very low, so the load shouldn't be too high. If you think that this is a waste of time, let me know how you'd improve upon it. Sending people to mailing list archives doesn't always work as the search functionality isn't great. Thanks for your time. -Nick -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev-help;jakarta.apache.org _ Get faster connections -- switch to MSN Internet Access! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev-help;jakarta.apache.org
RE: Struts IRC Channel
I totally agree with you David. I've collected an enormous amount of FAQ material (which I haven't organized yet) from this and the users list over the last 6 or 7 months. What good does it do to solve a really tricky problem if no one else can take advantage of that knowledge transfer? I'll be adding the new FAQ material and a few 'how to' sections soon. (for example: How to setup Netbeans to step through and debug your web application on Tomcat using Remote Debugging - a pictorial guide) James Mitchell Software Engineer/Struts Evangelist http://www.open-tools.org Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein (1879-1955) -Original Message- From: David Graham [mailto:dgraham1980;hotmail.com] Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 3:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Struts IRC Channel I for one, will not be answering questions on another forum. It's hard enough to keep up with the questions on this list :-). Also, I think it's a good that there be a central place to ask Struts questions. David From: Nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Developers List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Struts IRC Channel Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 14:57:00 -0400 (EDT) Hi, I've recently started hanging out in #struts on irc.freenode.net to help answer questions relating to the framework. I don't know that much about some of the esoteric areas of Struts, so I would really appreciate it if some of the developers would idle there and field the occasional question. Activity is very low, so the load shouldn't be too high. If you think that this is a waste of time, let me know how you'd improve upon it. Sending people to mailing list archives doesn't always work as the search functionality isn't great. Thanks for your time. -Nick -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev-help;jakarta.apache.org _ Get faster connections -- switch to MSN Internet Access! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev-help;jakarta.apache.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:struts-dev-help;jakarta.apache.org
