RE: HAPPY DIWALI!
That's pathetic. Ever hear of the caste system? Ever read The Far Pavillions by M.M. Kaye? Indians have historically been too busy repressing and killing each other to offer refuge to anybody else. Silicon Valley would be nothing without Indians? Oh, puhleeeze..talk about racist bullshit -Original Message- From: imran ali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:12 AM Though I believe it is not the right place to discuss it. But couldn't resist for long. India has always been protector of underprivilige and enormous immigrant from Pakistan, bangladesh, srilanka. It is Indian Researchers who have made MIT, Stanford proud of what they are today. If US dares to stop all the H1B visas. Believe me It will make US totter on their foot. It is Indian Sabeer Bhatias who have made silicon valley what it is today. And tell me who is the native American for name sake. ? Native americans were killed by european, Irish immegrants. It is not about cheap labour, It is about efficient cost to value ratio. I have never been to America and NEVER wish to be there also. We do all the high level research in our IITs, IISCs. Imran - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: HAPPY DIWALI! - To Everyone, and we're done now
Sorry, Ted (and others). All done. Mark -Original Message- From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 3:25 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: HAPPY DIWALI! - To Everyone, and we're done now First, I would like to wish everyone a Happy Diwali. I do have Indian and Hindu relatives, and the thought is very much appreciated. But, as the list moderator, I would respectfully ask everyone to stop posting to this thread, now. It's no longer about wishing everyone in our community well, or about helping each other use Struts. I'm sure there are places where interested parties can carry on such threads, but this is not one of those place. So, let's get back to work guys. -Ted. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Well, I have to leave the List for awhile - new job managing a team of H-1B developers. Keep it real, guys! I know most will miss me ;-) amf! Mark - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: HAPPY DIWALI!
My point, exactly. Poor, starving Haitians clinging to rafts can be turned back, but anybody from India can get an H1B visa, displacing millions of jobs from indigenous Americans, dragging down market labor rates and causing 7 percent unemployment in our industry. Now we are expected to translate Hindu on struts-user? Happy Diwali my ass -Original Message- From: Vic Cekvenic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 6:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: HAPPY DIWALI! http://www.newsforge.com/business/03/10/20/194207.shtml?tid=85 Prasenjit Narwade wrote: Shub Deepawali For those who do not understand Hindi language try to find the meaning of those words. Warm Regards, Prasenjit - Original Message - From: Andrew Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 4:05 AM Subject: RE: HAPPY DIWALI! Happy Deepavali mate! :-) -Original Message- From: Abhijeet Mahalkar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 22 October 2003 18:50 To: Struts Users Mailing List; Abhijeet Mahalkar Subject: HAPPY DIWALI! Aapko Naye Saal me... Chandragupt Ki Shakti Meerabai Ki Bhakti Ramchandra Ka Gyan Karan Ka Daan Einstein Ki Buddhi Nobel Prize Ki Siddhi Gandhi Ki Ahimsa India Ki Parampara Vajpayee Ki Maryada Nizaam Ki Sampada Michael Jordan Ki Salary Abdul Kalam Ki Vocabulary Bhagat Singh Ka Deshprem Sweetheart Ka Amarprem Microsoft Ke Share Rupiyo Ke Dher Tata Ke Senses Ambani Ke Licenses Birla Ka Bangla Daler Ka Bhangra Amitabh Ki Style Madhuri Ki Smile Shahrukh Ki Personality Aishwarya Ki Popularity Worldtour Ka Ticket Tendulkar Ka Wicket Administrator Ke Passwords Jokes Ke Forwards Mercedez Ki Car Diamond Ka Haar Aur Logon Ka Dher Saraa Pyar Prapt Ho... Wish you a Happy Diwali and a Prosperous New Year Regards Abhijeet Mahalkar - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: HAPPY DIWALI!
Just another point - much of the capital earned by H-1Bs flows out of the US: http://www.h1b.info/ Wish I could go back to work -Original Message- From: Andrew Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 8:19 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: HAPPY DIWALI! I put $2k into an india unit trust fund just the other day and its now worth $3k... :-) Keep working my little drones. Collect the pollen to make the honey for your master. Soon I will be rich rich I tell you muhaha.. hang on. hmm... Actually 3k aint gonna last real long if my job is outsourced next. doh! So much my for my attempt at greedy bourgeious capitalism :-( sigh/ Ill just shutup and get back to work now... -Original Message- From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 23 October 2003 20:12 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: HAPPY DIWALI! My point, exactly. Poor, starving Haitians clinging to rafts can be turned back, but anybody from India can get an H1B visa, displacing millions of jobs from indigenous Americans, dragging down market labor rates and causing 7 percent unemployment in our industry. Now we are expected to translate Hindu on struts-user? Happy Diwali my ass -Original Message- From: Vic Cekvenic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 6:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: HAPPY DIWALI! http://www.newsforge.com/business/03/10/20/194207.shtml?tid=85 Prasenjit Narwade wrote: Shub Deepawali For those who do not understand Hindi language try to find the meaning of those words. Warm Regards, Prasenjit - Original Message - From: Andrew Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 4:05 AM Subject: RE: HAPPY DIWALI! Happy Deepavali mate! :-) -Original Message- From: Abhijeet Mahalkar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 22 October 2003 18:50 To: Struts Users Mailing List; Abhijeet Mahalkar Subject: HAPPY DIWALI! Aapko Naye Saal me... Chandragupt Ki Shakti Meerabai Ki Bhakti Ramchandra Ka Gyan Karan Ka Daan Einstein Ki Buddhi Nobel Prize Ki Siddhi Gandhi Ki Ahimsa India Ki Parampara Vajpayee Ki Maryada Nizaam Ki Sampada Michael Jordan Ki Salary Abdul Kalam Ki Vocabulary Bhagat Singh Ka Deshprem Sweetheart Ka Amarprem Microsoft Ke Share Rupiyo Ke Dher Tata Ke Senses Ambani Ke Licenses Birla Ka Bangla Daler Ka Bhangra Amitabh Ki Style Madhuri Ki Smile Shahrukh Ki Personality Aishwarya Ki Popularity Worldtour Ka Ticket Tendulkar Ka Wicket Administrator Ke Passwords Jokes Ke Forwards Mercedez Ki Car Diamond Ka Haar Aur Logon Ka Dher Saraa Pyar Prapt Ho... Wish you a Happy Diwali and a Prosperous New Year Regards Abhijeet Mahalkar - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: HAPPY DIWALI!
Bullshit. Business looks for cheap labor. The reason guys like Michael Dell, Larry Ellison, and Steve Ballmer lobbied Congress for expansion of H-1B numbers was because technical industry workers were able to command record-high compensation because of the shortage of LABOR, not TALENT. The flood of H-1B tech workers has diluted the labor market, depressed compensation rates, and raised unemployment. Do your own homework. Search on anything from Washington Post to google on the subject. This is not just my opinion; it's historical and economic fact. And it has nothing to do with any ethnic holiday; if you think otherwise, you are probably an H-1B. Mark -Original Message- From: Navjot Singh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 8:29 AM Business look for skills. If Americans could provide ample, your businessmen WONT search in other countries. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: HAPPY DIWALI!
I'm all for that...but do you think they could put more emphasis on birth control and less on nuking Pakistan? That way, they wouldn't have to flood other countries' economies with people who cannot find jobs in their own country. -Original Message- From: Andrew Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 8:45 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: HAPPY DIWALI! Why should American consumers of and investers in computer software and stuff be expected to pay inflated prices for your work when you no longer have a comparative advantage in that area. That money and investement would do far better going into some area of the economy that can use it more efficiently and provide more jobs for more people rather than a few jobs for overpaid IT guys... -Original Message- From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 23 October 2003 20:40 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: HAPPY DIWALI! Bullshit. Business looks for cheap labor. The reason guys like Michael Dell, Larry Ellison, and Steve Ballmer lobbied Congress for expansion of H-1B numbers was because technical industry workers were able to command record-high compensation because of the shortage of LABOR, not TALENT. The flood of H-1B tech workers has diluted the labor market, depressed compensation rates, and raised unemployment. Do your own homework. Search on anything from Washington Post to google on the subject. This is not just my opinion; it's historical and economic fact. And it has nothing to do with any ethnic holiday; if you think otherwise, you are probably an H-1B. Mark -Original Message- From: Navjot Singh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 8:29 AM Business look for skills. If Americans could provide ample, your businessmen WONT search in other countries. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: HAPPY DIWALI!
Why in the world would I want to go to India for any reason (other than the nude beaches at Goa)? The only thing our cultures have in common is we both kicked the bloody British out of our respective countries. -Original Message- From: Navjot Singh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 8:58 AM Mark, I have never been on H1B for your info and don't even want to be. However, if you are interested to work in india, send me your CV. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: HAPPY DIWALI!
Predictable response. Whenever you start running out of legitimate ideas, you play the racism card. Sorry, not biting...we have a long history of that game in the US already. Try to back up your statements with political and economic FACTS. Arguing from emotion is pointless. -Original Message- From: Rajesh Ambedkar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:13 AM With all your arguments you look more racist then actual concerned. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: HAPPY DIWALI! [Slightly Offtopic]
Hey Becky, if you do not have anything inflammatory to add, please stay out of the topic. -Original Message- From: Becky L. Norum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:17 AM [blah, blah, blah] Happy Diwali to everyone! Becky - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: HAPPY DIWALI!
OH MY GOD!!! October 24th?! Already??? Earth is going to be hit by a G3 solar blast of an X-class flare! I guess this is what we get for dissing Diwali! Woe is me! http://www.spaceweather.com -Original Message- From: Frat TRYAK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:42 AM And tomorrow is 24 October, happy 24 October to everyone. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: HAPPY DIWALI!
+1 -Original Message- From: Ivica Pavic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:52 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: HAPPY DIWALI! This is the very best email today. -Original Message- From: Jarnot Voytek Contr AU HQ/SC [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 3:39 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: HAPPY DIWALI! Would all you people just shut the hell up already? -- Voytek Jarnot Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: HAPPY DIWALI!
What other day? Other than Friday? Other than the 24th? Other than October? Other than 2003 CE? Other significance? United Nations Day? What is your point? Are you using java.sql.Date, java.util.Date, java.util.Calendar, java.util.GregorianCalendar, or .NYET? hehehe -Original Message- From: Frat TRYAK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:58 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: HAPPY DIWALI! oh! you are so brillant mark, I guess you know what the other day is... ye there you go marky... F. - Original Message - From: Mark Galbreath [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 4:39 PM Subject: RE: HAPPY DIWALI! OH MY GOD!!! October 24th?! Already??? Earth is going to be hit by a G3 solar blast of an X-class flare! I guess this is what we get for dissing Diwali! Woe is me! http://www.spaceweather.com -Original Message- From: Frat TRYAK [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:42 AM And tomorrow is 24 October, happy 24 October to everyone. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: HAPPY DIWALI!
Well, this has been great fun, but now that everyone is awake, I have some work to do. Was an invigorating debate! Especially the name-calling. amf - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: HAPPY DIWALI!
bastardized aborigine crock o' shit -Original Message- From: Abhijeet Mahalkar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 6:50 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List; Abhijeet Mahalkar Subject: HAPPY DIWALI! Aapko Naye Saal me... Chandragupt Ki Shakti Meerabai Ki Bhakti Ramchandra Ka Gyan Karan Ka Daan Einstein Ki Buddhi Nobel Prize Ki Siddhi Gandhi Ki Ahimsa India Ki Parampara Vajpayee Ki Maryada Nizaam Ki Sampada Michael Jordan Ki Salary Abdul Kalam Ki Vocabulary Bhagat Singh Ka Deshprem Sweetheart Ka Amarprem Microsoft Ke Share Rupiyo Ke Dher Tata Ke Senses Ambani Ke Licenses Birla Ka Bangla Daler Ka Bhangra Amitabh Ki Style Madhuri Ki Smile Shahrukh Ki Personality Aishwarya Ki Popularity Worldtour Ka Ticket Tendulkar Ka Wicket Administrator Ke Passwords Jokes Ke Forwards Mercedez Ki Car Diamond Ka Haar Aur Logon Ka Dher Saraa Pyar Prapt Ho... Wish you a Happy Diwali and a Prosperous New Year Regards Abhijeet Mahalkar - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
HAPPY DIWALI - URGENT!
Dear Diwali Friend, My letter might come to you as a surprise but I request you go through it patiently and understand why I decided to write without seeking for your formal permission. My name is Prince Zak Tubman; I am a grand son of former President William Tubman (late). I work under the Former President of Liberia - Mr Charles Taylor as an under secretary. I am writing this letter in the spirit of Diwali to you because of where we have found ourselves. You should remember that the government of Liberia under President Charles Taylor has been having problems with the United Nations. few weeks ago, Mr Taylor and some members of his cabinet were indicted in the War crime tribunal in Sierra Leone. As if that is not enough, the bank account of Mr Taylor and some members of his cabinet have been frozen in Switzerland. The asset of Liberian President incorporated with legal aid application by the UN WAR CRIME TRIBUNAL in Sierra Leone amount to 2.37billion Swiss francs or 1.54 billion euros. The tribunal indicted Taylor of financial and military sponsor of two rebel groups in Sierra Leone while receiving raw diamonds, which he sold and invested the profit in several countries including Switzerland. Right now, because of this, indictment is hanging on the neck of Mr. Taylor and some other government officials. It is difficult for the innocent officials to operate bank accounts and invest in any business. So I want to solicit for your help as a foreign partner to move our funds in The Netherlands. I need your help because of this stigma that has been placed on my senior colleagues. Also I am soliciting for your help because I do not know when this whole investigation will be over. What we have collectively in The Netherlands is $18 Million united state dollars. If you can successfully help us to move all to safety, into your account, we promise to give you 15% and any investment we make, with the remaining amount, we shall allocate 10% to you and I have set aside 5% of the total amount for any expenses incurred during the process of this transaction. This transaction is risk free because this is not drug money and we have documents to prove it. Please treat this request with the utmost secrecy it deserves even if you are not willing to help. Let me have your private telephone, fax and address so that I can be able to contact you to discuss the modalities of this transaction. Thanks and Happy Diwali! Prince Zak Tubman - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: HAPPY DIWALI!
Huh? You mean Diwali is just another excuse to drink beer??? Happy Diwali, everyone! yeehaw! -Original Message- From: Andrew Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 8:16 AM Oh bah humbug to you too. Do be assured that I wont be thinking of you while I enjoy a public holiday and you sweat away at work. Nyah :-P - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: HAPPY DIWALI!
Until now, I didn't believe the hype that too many H1-Bs had been granted -Original Message- From: Prasenjit Narwade [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 9:56 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: HAPPY DIWALI! Shub Deepawali For those who do not understand Hindi language try to find the meaning of those words. Warm Regards, Prasenjit - Original Message - From: Andrew Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 4:05 AM Subject: RE: HAPPY DIWALI! Happy Deepavali mate! :-) -Original Message- From: Abhijeet Mahalkar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 22 October 2003 18:50 To: Struts Users Mailing List; Abhijeet Mahalkar Subject: HAPPY DIWALI! Aapko Naye Saal me... Chandragupt Ki Shakti Meerabai Ki Bhakti Ramchandra Ka Gyan Karan Ka Daan Einstein Ki Buddhi Nobel Prize Ki Siddhi Gandhi Ki Ahimsa India Ki Parampara Vajpayee Ki Maryada Nizaam Ki Sampada Michael Jordan Ki Salary Abdul Kalam Ki Vocabulary Bhagat Singh Ka Deshprem Sweetheart Ka Amarprem Microsoft Ke Share Rupiyo Ke Dher Tata Ke Senses Ambani Ke Licenses Birla Ka Bangla Daler Ka Bhangra Amitabh Ki Style Madhuri Ki Smile Shahrukh Ki Personality Aishwarya Ki Popularity Worldtour Ka Ticket Tendulkar Ka Wicket Administrator Ke Passwords Jokes Ke Forwards Mercedez Ki Car Diamond Ka Haar Aur Logon Ka Dher Saraa Pyar Prapt Ho... Wish you a Happy Diwali and a Prosperous New Year Regards Abhijeet Mahalkar - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [FRIDAY] Free Dog.....
Looks prime to me...can it be shipped live? Mark, member, PETA (People for the Eating of Tasty Animals) -Original Message- From: Shane Mingins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:28 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: [FRIDAY] Free Dog. Hi A mate of mine is looking for a good home for their family's dog. He said it's really lovable and friendly with kids, but his wife said the dog makes her nervous when it stares at her (I know - weird - I thought the same thing). She wants it out of the house ASAP unfortunately. If you know of anyone who might like to have this loveable pup for a pet, let me know my mate has attached a jpeg of the little mutt. Thanks - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [FRIDAY] Free Dog.....
+1 -Original Message- From: Martin Gainty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:34 PM Ditch the wife Keep the dog.. -M - Original Message - From: Shane Mingins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A mate of mine is looking for a good home for their family's dog. He said it's really lovable and friendly with kids, but his wife said the dog makes her nervous when it stares at her (I know - weird - I thought the same thing). She wants it out of the house ASAP unfortunately. If you know of anyone who might like to have this loveable pup for a pet, let me know my mate has attached a jpeg of the little mutt. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[FRIDAY] URL O' The Day
http://www.kmfms.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [FRIDAY] URL O' The Day
Yep...glad the irony was not wasted! ;-) -Original Message- From: Mark Lowe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 10:38 AM Nice link ... Sent to us with.. Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) :o) On Friday, October 17, 2003, at 12:58 PM, Mark Galbreath wrote: http://www.kmfms.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
for the Apple-biters
...just ran across this URL and thought I'd pass it along FWIW: http://developer.apple.com/internet/java/struts.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Need mailing list
Write your own http://www.mscs.mu.edu/~aricke/Ent2002/Assignment3/listing3-3.html -Original Message- From: Wiebe de Jong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 11:03 AM Okay, my fault. Let me rephrase the question. Does anybody know of a good mailing list app that is open source and written in Java? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [FRIDAY] Free Dog.....
oh man! that's cold! ru related to Andrew? -Original Message- From: Chen, Gin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 11:53 AM How did you get a picture of Mark? -Tim -Original Message- From: Shane Mingins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 7:30 PM Ok so no attachments :-( http://fattyco.org/~beck/stephen/Free_Dog.jpg -Original Message- From: Shane Mingins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 17 October 2003 12:28 p.m. A mate of mine is looking for a good home for their family's dog. He said it's really lovable and friendly with kids, but his wife said the dog makes her nervous when it stares at her (I know - weird - I thought the same thing). She wants it out of the house ASAP unfortunately. If you know of anyone who might like to have this loveable pup for a pet, let me know my mate has attached a jpeg of the little mutt. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: for the Apple-biters
Sure wish I could afford a G5 PowerBook!! -Original Message- From: Nguyen, Hien [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 12:12 PM I'm actually writing my struts application using Eclipse + Tomcat on my PowerBook 17 and Safari for the pages. Its sweet! -Original Message- From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 11:57 AM ...just ran across this URL and thought I'd pass it along FWIW: http://developer.apple.com/internet/java/struts.html - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Converting to Struts, where to put Servlet init() code?
subclass ActionServlet and put your inits there. -Original Message- From: Wendy Smoak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 7:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Converting to Struts, where to put Servlet init() code? I'm converting an existing webapp to Struts. I have some code in a Servlet init() method, and I don't immediately see where I should put it. This is an authentication/authorization webapp, and the code in question sets up an authentication handler object to be used by every subsequent request. What's guaranteed to get executed before the Action code? (I'm almost thinking Filter, and to put the object in Application scope, but I'm not sure yet.) Any advice? -- Wendy Smoak Applications Systems Analyst, Sr. Arizona State University, PA, IRM - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: DynaActionForms
Yes. -Original Message- From: Edgar P Dollin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 1:35 PM ...I would like to populate the (DynaAction)forms myself. Does anyone have any experience with how this behaves in struts? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] JavaPro 2003 Readers Choice Awards
These topics come up often enough that I thought this might help some people and/or spark some discussion: CategoryProduct -- IDE Borland JBuilder Development Suites Eclipse Consortium Eclipse Modeling Tools Borland Together Testing Tools Eric Gamma and Kent Beck's JUnit Web Services DevelopmentSun Microsystems Web Services Developer Pack Visual Bean/Components BEA WebLogic Workshop Oracle 9i Business Intelligence Beans Reporting Tools Crystal Decisions Crystal Reports Graphics Tools Apache Batik SVG Toolkit J2EE Application ServersBEA WebLogic Server Messaging Tools IBM WebSphere MQ Series EAI IBM WebSphere Studio Application Developer Integration Edition Optimization/Profiling Borland Optimizeit Suite Data Access Oracle 9iAS Toplink JVM Sun Microsystems JVMs - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Slightly OT] Where/how to start?
and you may want to subscribe to other lists that are more J2EE-centric, like [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mark -Original Message- From: Nicholson, Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2003 9:53 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: [Slightly OT] Where/how to start? Here's what I did at my last job: I was mostly a C, JAM, Oracle developer but wanted to learn Java and J2EE. Try to find an approach that will let you learn J2EE while benefiting the company in some way. Let your managers know that you want to learn the technology. They'll know that you aren't content just doing the same old thing every day, and they might start to look for training opportunities, whether it is sending you to class or putting you on newer J2EE projects. Another way is to take a few hours each week learning a new technology and incorporating that into some sort of prototype that your company might be interested in. Take an existing application and prototype a Java/J2EE version of it. Show it off to your managers, then move on and do some more prototypes. Even if it doesn't go into production, you have built real applications in a real work environment. -Original Message- From: Andy Engle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 6:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Slightly OT] Where/how to start? Hi all, I have a strong Perl/CGI background, but my JSP/Servlet/J2EE experience is related only to what I did in college. My job entails C development, but I really want to get more into this J2EE stuff. It's so much more enjoyable than this C work I am doing, but I can't seem to get my foot in the door. In looking for a J2EE development job, I keep hearing that I need more experience, which is perfectly understandable. But, I can't get experience without getting a job doing it first. My question is, how do I get my foot in the door so I can split my boring job and do what I really want to do? Do I need to go full tilt and get a certification or something like that? Any ideas would be most helpful. Even more helpful would be a J2EE job in the Chicago area where I could develop my professional career in this area. Thanks very much! Best Regards, Andy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OT - book on Java patterns
Yes, James, but the GoF book examples are written in a C-like pseudocode syntax that is difficult for a non-C programmer to follow. For a Java parallel to the GoF book, I've found Applied Java Patterns (Stelting and Maasen, Sun/PH 2002) and Design Patterns Java Workbook (Metsker, Addison Wesley 2002) to be the best. Mark -Original Message- From: James Childers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 9:20 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: OT - book on Java patterns The de facto official reference for these patterns is Design Patterns, by Gamma, et. al., the now famous Gang of Four. This is the book that started all the madness back in '97 or so; pretty much all other books on design patterns can be said to be derivitives or enhancements on this original work. One that I am in the process of reading right now is Patterns of Enterprise Application Architecture by Martin Fowler. It has some solid patterns from a J2EE/.NET (mostly J2EE) perspective, and is worth investigating after the GoF book has been studied. -= J -Original Message- From: Sasha Borodin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 5:23 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: OT - book on Java patterns All this talk lately of various official patterns has my brain hurting from the Unknown again. Can anyone recommend a good book on *patterns* - business delegate, visitor, dao, etc. etc. etc. Thanks, -Sasha - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: struts double action execution!?
I didn't know table had a background attribute. But any HTML attribute
value should be ignored by Struts. Even using html:table shouldn't cause
a 2x submit.
-Original Message-
From: Otto, Frank [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 9:41 AM
To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
Subject: AW: struts double action execution!?
Thanks for your answer.
I have found the mistake. I had a # in my table-tag.
table background=#
...
/table
I don't know why struts execute the action twice, but without the # it
functions.
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Nicholson, Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gesendet: Montag, 13. Oktober 2003 15:36
An: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
Betreff: RE: struts double action execution!?
We had this problem briefly as well. Make sure you don't have a button that
looks like this on your JSP...
html:submit ... onclick=submit()/
-Original Message-
From: Otto, Frank [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 4:55 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: struts double action execution!?
Hello,
I have a difficult problem. My action was executed twice and I don't know
why.
There is a global forward in my main.jsp:
%@ taglib uri=/WEB-INF/struts-logic.tld prefix=logic %
logic:forward name=startpage/
struts-config.xml:
struts-config
global-forwards
forward
name=startpage
path=/action/welcome /
...
/global-forwards
action-mappings
action
path=/welcome
type=test.actions.CWelcomeAction
name=loginForm
scope=request
validate=false
forward
name=Success path=dos.Welcome /
/action
...
/action-mappings
tiles-def.xml:
tiles-definitions
definition name=dos.DefaultLayout
page=/pages/layouts/dosDefaultLayout.jsp
put name=header value=/pages/header/empty.jsp/
put name=agb value=/pages/submenu/common/agb.jsp/
/definition
definition name=dos.WelcomeLayout extends=dos.DefaultLayout
put name=header value=/pages/header/startpage.jsp/
put name=mainmenu_top value=/pages/mainmenu_top/emptymain.jsp/
put name=mainmenu_bottom
value=/pages/mainmenu_bottom/welcomemain.jsp/
put name=submenu value=/pages/submenu/main/login.jsp/
put name=navigation value=/pages/navigation/empty.jsp/
/definition
definition name=dos.Welcome extends=dos.WelcomeLayout
put name=caption
value=/pages/captions/main/welcome.jsp/
put name=content value=/pages/mainpage/main/welcome.jsp/
/definition
...
/tiles-definitions
That was written in the log-file:
DEBUG 2003-10-09 08:50:46,204 - Get module name for path /action
DEBUG 2003-10-09 08:50:46,204 - Module name found: default
DEBUG 2003-10-09 08:50:46,205 - Processing a 'GET' for path '/welcome'
DEBUG 2003-10-09 08:50:46,205 - Looking for ActionForm bean instance in
scope 'request' under attribute key 'loginForm'
DEBUG 2003-10-09 08:50:46,205 - Creating new ActionForm instance of type
'test.forms.main.CLoginForm'
DEBUG 2003-10-09 08:50:46,205 - -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DEBUG 2003-10-09 08:50:46,205 - Storing ActionForm bean instance in scope
'request' under attribute key 'loginForm'
DEBUG 2003-10-09 08:50:46,206 - Populating bean properties from this
request
DEBUG 2003-10-09 08:50:46,206 -
BeanUtils.populate([EMAIL PROTECTED], {})
DEBUG 2003-10-09 08:50:46,206 - Looking for Action instance for class
test.actions.CWelcomeAction
DEBUG 2003-10-09 08:50:46,206 - Returning existing Action instance
DEBUG 2003-10-09 08:50:46,206 - Begin CWelcomeAction.execute()
DEBUG 2003-10-09 08:50:46,206 - dispatch:
ActionConfig[path=/welcome,name=loginForm,scope=request,type=test.actions.CW
elcome
Action
...
DEBUG 2003-10-09 08:50:46,211 - End CWelcomeAction.execute()
DEBUG 2003-10-09 08:50:46,211 - processForwardConfig(dos.Welcome, false)
DEBUG 2003-10-09 08:50:46,212 - uri=/pages/layouts/dosDefaultLayout.jsp
doInclud
e=false
DEBUG 2003-10-09 08:50:46,214 - insert page='/pages/header/startpage.jsp'.
DEBUG 2003-10-09 08:50:46,219 - insert
page='/pages/mainmenu_bottom/welcomemain.
jsp'.
DEBUG 2003-10-09 08:50:46,226 - insert page='/pages/submenu/main/login.jsp'.
DEBUG 2003-10-09 08:50:46,230 - insert page='/pages/submenu/common/agb.jsp'.
DEBUG 2003-10-09 08:50:46,236 - insert page='/pages/navigation/empty.jsp'.
DEBUG 2003-10-09 08:50:46,238 - insert
page='/pages/captions/main/welcome.jsp'.
DEBUG 2003-10-09 08:50:46,240 - insert
page='/pages/mainpage/main/welcome.jsp'.
DEBUG 2003-10-09 08:50:46,242 - 'dos.Welcome' - processed as definition
THE SECOND ONE:
DEBUG 2003-10-09 08:50:46,522 - Get module name for path /action
DEBUG 2003-10-09 08:50:46,522 - Module name found: default
DEBUG 2003-10-09 08:50:46,523 - Processing a 'GET' for path '/welcome'
DEBUG 2003-10-09 08:50:46,523 - Looking for ActionForm bean instance in
scope '
request' under attribute key 'loginForm'
DEBUG 2003-10-09 08:50:46,523 - Creating new ActionForm instance of type
RE: struts double action execution!?
Yeah, wallaby-boy, I seem to remember a similar behavior when I was using
1.01 beta and using an image as an input to a submit tag.
Marconi
-Original Message-
From: Andrew Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 10:20 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: struts double action execution!?
Yep. That table thing is almost certainly a red herring.
-Original Message-
From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, 13 October 2003 22:18
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: struts double action execution!?
I didn't know table had a background attribute. But any HTML attribute
value should be ignored by Struts. Even using html:table shouldn't cause
a 2x submit.
-Original Message-
From: Otto, Frank [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 9:41 AM
To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
Subject: AW: struts double action execution!?
Thanks for your answer.
I have found the mistake. I had a # in my table-tag.
table background=#
...
/table
I don't know why struts execute the action twice, but without the # it
functions.
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Nicholson, Robb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gesendet: Montag, 13. Oktober 2003 15:36
An: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
Betreff: RE: struts double action execution!?
We had this problem briefly as well. Make sure you don't have a button that
looks like this on your JSP...
html:submit ... onclick=submit()/
-Original Message-
From: Otto, Frank [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 4:55 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: struts double action execution!?
Hello,
I have a difficult problem. My action was executed twice and I don't know
why.
There is a global forward in my main.jsp:
%@ taglib uri=/WEB-INF/struts-logic.tld prefix=logic %
logic:forward name=startpage/
struts-config.xml:
struts-config
global-forwards
forward
name=startpage
path=/action/welcome /
...
/global-forwards
action-mappings
action
path=/welcome
type=test.actions.CWelcomeAction
name=loginForm
scope=request
validate=false
forward
name=Success path=dos.Welcome /
/action
...
/action-mappings
tiles-def.xml:
tiles-definitions
definition name=dos.DefaultLayout
page=/pages/layouts/dosDefaultLayout.jsp
put name=header value=/pages/header/empty.jsp/
put name=agb value=/pages/submenu/common/agb.jsp/
/definition
definition name=dos.WelcomeLayout extends=dos.DefaultLayout
put name=header value=/pages/header/startpage.jsp/
put name=mainmenu_top value=/pages/mainmenu_top/emptymain.jsp/
put name=mainmenu_bottom
value=/pages/mainmenu_bottom/welcomemain.jsp/
put name=submenu value=/pages/submenu/main/login.jsp/
put name=navigation value=/pages/navigation/empty.jsp/
/definition
definition name=dos.Welcome extends=dos.WelcomeLayout
put name=caption
value=/pages/captions/main/welcome.jsp/
put name=content value=/pages/mainpage/main/welcome.jsp/
/definition
...
/tiles-definitions
That was written in the log-file:
DEBUG 2003-10-09 08:50:46,204 - Get module name for path /action
DEBUG 2003-10-09 08:50:46,204 - Module name found: default
DEBUG 2003-10-09 08:50:46,205 - Processing a 'GET' for path '/welcome'
DEBUG 2003-10-09 08:50:46,205 - Looking for ActionForm bean instance in
scope 'request' under attribute key 'loginForm'
DEBUG 2003-10-09 08:50:46,205 - Creating new ActionForm instance of type
'test.forms.main.CLoginForm'
DEBUG 2003-10-09 08:50:46,205 - -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DEBUG 2003-10-09 08:50:46,205 - Storing ActionForm bean instance in scope
'request' under attribute key 'loginForm'
DEBUG 2003-10-09 08:50:46,206 - Populating bean properties from this
request
DEBUG 2003-10-09 08:50:46,206 -
BeanUtils.populate([EMAIL PROTECTED], {})
DEBUG 2003-10-09 08:50:46,206 - Looking for Action instance for class
test.actions.CWelcomeAction
DEBUG 2003-10-09 08:50:46,206 - Returning existing Action instance
DEBUG 2003-10-09 08:50:46,206 - Begin CWelcomeAction.execute()
DEBUG 2003-10-09 08:50:46,206 - dispatch:
ActionConfig[path=/welcome,name=loginForm,scope=request,type=test.actions.CW
elcome
Action
...
DEBUG 2003-10-09 08:50:46,211 - End CWelcomeAction.execute()
DEBUG 2003-10-09 08:50:46,211 - processForwardConfig(dos.Welcome, false)
DEBUG 2003-10-09 08:50:46,212 - uri=/pages/layouts/dosDefaultLayout.jsp
doInclud
e=false
DEBUG 2003-10-09 08:50:46,214 - insert page='/pages/header/startpage.jsp'.
DEBUG 2003-10-09 08:50:46,219 - insert
page='/pages/mainmenu_bottom/welcomemain.
jsp'.
DEBUG 2003-10-09 08:50:46,226 - insert page='/pages/submenu/main/login.jsp'.
DEBUG 2003-10-09 08:50:46,230 - insert page='/pages/submenu/common/agb.jsp'.
DEBUG 2003-10-09 08:50:46,236 - insert page='/pages/navigation/empty.jsp'.
DEBUG 2003-10-09 08:50:46,238 - insert
page='/pages/captions/main
RE: ejb's and tomcat
Yeah, but the only reason I posted that msg was for baiting purposes...and apparently I caught a lot of fish... ;-P Mark -Original Message- From: Brian McSweeney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 9:37 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: ejb's and tomcat I agree, but I was responding to your jboss is crap statement, which also has little to do with entity beans. -Original Message- From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 October 2003 11:41 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: ejb's and tomcat That's an improvement, but really has little to do with EJB entity beans. -Original Message- From: Brian McSweeney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 8:33 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: ejb's and tomcat Can't really agree with that. Besides, jboss have just employed the creator of hibernate and its CMP layer is going to be powered by hibernate in the near future anyway. So if you're a fan of hibernate, you'll get the same thing under the hood with jboss and CMP ejbs. -Original Message- From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 October 2003 11:08 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: ejb's and tomcat JBoss is crap, anyway. -Original Message- From: Brian McSweeney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 7:44 AM This isn't the case for jboss at least. You gain major performance increases. -Original Message- From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 October 2003 10:35 Yes, the advantage of using local interfaces in EJBs is avoiding the creation of stubs and skeletons, use of RMI and serialization. But what many people don't realize is that all the major containers have been doing this since 1.1 anyway, abeit in proprietary ways. You really gain no performance advantage by explicitly declaring an EJB interface local - you merely adhere to the specification. Mark -Original Message- From: Kunal H. Parikh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 8:20 PM The CMP2.x spec allows declaring EJBs as local objects. The advantage of the local EJB objects is that they don't get serialized/deserialized(I think) and pass-by-reference and not by-value. Effectively, If you use a LocalEJB, you have the flexibitly of making the REMOTE with very few changes to code. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ejb's and tomcat
I agree they scale well -Original Message- From: Andrew Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 6:56 AM Strangely enough I find most of your posts are decidedly fishy. -Original Message- From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 10 October 2003 18:51 Yeah, but the only reason I posted that msg was for baiting purposes...and apparently I caught a lot of fish... ;-P Mark -Original Message- From: Brian McSweeney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 9:37 AM I agree, but I was responding to your jboss is crap statement, which also has little to do with entity beans. -Original Message- From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 October 2003 11:41 That's an improvement, but really has little to do with EJB entity beans. -Original Message- From: Brian McSweeney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 8:33 AM Can't really agree with that. Besides, jboss have just employed the creator of hibernate and its CMP layer is going to be powered by hibernate in the near future anyway. So if you're a fan of hibernate, you'll get the same thing under the hood with jboss and CMP ejbs. -Original Message- From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 October 2003 11:08 JBoss is crap, anyway. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] Is Java Overkill?
http://www.sys-con.com/Java/article.cfm?id=2257 Mark - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] JSTL Primer
http://today.java.net/pub/a/today/2003/10/07/jstl1.html Mark - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ejb's and tomcat
Apparently more than 20 people believed it was important enough to spark a discussion of the issue, so if it was a waste of your time, perhaps you are just too important for this list? As far as bad advice goes, most of the people I know in the *real* world agree with my assessment: JBoss is not worth the trouble. In short, it's crap. Oh yeah...and thanks for the waste of bandwidth with your useless msg; next time, practice what you supposedly believe and email your criticism privately. Marko Sharko -Original Message- From: Brian McSweeney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 8:19 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: ejb's and tomcat Well congrats on a) wasting other people's time b) giving bad advice perhaps you should consider fishing elsewhere. -Original Message- From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 October 2003 10:51 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: ejb's and tomcat Yeah, but the only reason I posted that msg was for baiting purposes...and apparently I caught a lot of fish... ;-P Mark -Original Message- From: Brian McSweeney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 9:37 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: ejb's and tomcat I agree, but I was responding to your jboss is crap statement, which also has little to do with entity beans. -Original Message- From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 October 2003 11:41 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: ejb's and tomcat That's an improvement, but really has little to do with EJB entity beans. -Original Message- From: Brian McSweeney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 8:33 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: ejb's and tomcat Can't really agree with that. Besides, jboss have just employed the creator of hibernate and its CMP layer is going to be powered by hibernate in the near future anyway. So if you're a fan of hibernate, you'll get the same thing under the hood with jboss and CMP ejbs. -Original Message- From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 October 2003 11:08 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: ejb's and tomcat JBoss is crap, anyway. -Original Message- From: Brian McSweeney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 7:44 AM This isn't the case for jboss at least. You gain major performance increases. -Original Message- From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 October 2003 10:35 Yes, the advantage of using local interfaces in EJBs is avoiding the creation of stubs and skeletons, use of RMI and serialization. But what many people don't realize is that all the major containers have been doing this since 1.1 anyway, abeit in proprietary ways. You really gain no performance advantage by explicitly declaring an EJB interface local - you merely adhere to the specification. Mark -Original Message- From: Kunal H. Parikh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 8:20 PM The CMP2.x spec allows declaring EJBs as local objects. The advantage of the local EJB objects is that they don't get serialized/deserialized(I think) and pass-by-reference and not by-value. Effectively, If you use a LocalEJB, you have the flexibitly of making the REMOTE with very few changes to code. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: How to read contents of MANIFEST.MF
1. the META-INF directory should be under the webapp root, not a WEB-INF subdirectory; 2. read the file into an action class with java.io.FileReader, set the object in some scope, and display it in a JSP with a bean:write/. Mark -Original Message- From: Martin Gross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 7:13 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: How to read contents of MANIFEST.MF I would like to read the content of /WEB-INF/META-INF/MANIFEST.MF file by a struts based application. Does anybody have an example how to do it? The only references I found are only for jar files. TIA, Martin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: How to read contents of MANIFEST.MF
Where did you get this from? -Original Message- From: Kris Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 7:50 AM import java.util.jar.Manifest; - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ejb's and tomcat
Yes, the advantage of using local interfaces in EJBs is avoiding the creation of stubs and skeletons, use of RMI and serialization. But what many people don't realize is that all the major containers have been doing this since 1.1 anyway, abeit in proprietary ways. You really gain no performance advantage by explicitly declaring an EJB interface local - you merely adhere to the specification. Mark -Original Message- From: Kunal H. Parikh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 8:20 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: ejb's and tomcat Hi Andrew, Mark, and ALL! The CMP2.x spec allows declaring EJBs as local objects. The advantage of the local EJB objects is that they don't get serialized/deserialized(I think) and pass-by-reference and not by-value. Effectively, If you use a LocalEJB, you have the flexibitly of making the REMOTE with very few changes to code. People, please correct me if I am wrong. Kunal -Original Message- From: Andrew Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 8 October 2003 21:20 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: ejb's and tomcat Nonsense! In the same way acronyms look great on resumes, they also look just super on product brochures. If you use EJBs you can proudly proclaim that your application is based on J2EE EJB technology! This is useful for impressing clueless manager types even if EJBs confer no actual technical advantage (and often many disadvantages) to what your trying to do. btw: afaik its not just distributed stuff but also transaction type stuff its good for (but lets face it - most dbs do enough in that regards for most apps transaction needs already) -Original Message- From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 8 October 2003 19:04 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: ejb's and tomcat If you are asking these questions, you probably should not be using EJB. The ONLY reason to use EJB is if you are developing a distributed application; anything else is overkill. If you simply need data persistence, use JDBC and use DAO, or one of the persistence frameworks: Ibatus, Hibernate, or Kodo-JDO. Mark -Original Message- From: ajay brar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 9:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ejb's and tomcat Hi! does tomcat support ejb's. I'm building a web app which uses struts. i'm using ejb's for the model part. can i deploy the ejb component on tomcat? what other alternate ways are there to do so? thanks cheers ajay _ ninemsn Premium transforms your e-mail with colours, photos and animated text. Click here http://ninemsn.com.au/premium/landing.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [FRIDAY] Yeah I know it's early ;-)
Looks like Java developers chasing the latest JCP fad -Original Message- From: Shane Mingins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 8:21 PM http://www.foulds2000.freeserve.co.uk/economists.htm - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ejb's and tomcat
The O'Reilly version has one, too. -Original Message- From: Andrew Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 11:18 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: ejb's and tomcat Chuck's book has a chapter on using EJB with struts. (Chuck Caveness Programming Jakarta Struts - O'Rielly) -Original Message- From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 8 October 2003 23:13 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: ejb's and tomcat Have your action classes call methods on a DTO (data transfer object) that calls an EJB stateless session bean that will, in turn, call the business logic contained in EJB entity beans that reflect your datastore. State in the DTO can then be transferred to your ActionForm/DynaActionForm beans. Mark -Original Message- From: ajay brar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 8:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ejb's and tomcat hi! its actually for my software project at university. i am in uni. and the aim of the project is to use ejb with struts. we are developing a transaction/payment gateway. the ejb's will be implementing the model, ie, the actual transaction and also merchant support functions. since me and my group are still in uni(and learning among other things groupwork), we divided the tasks. so while i developed the web tier using struts someone else developed the ejb's and ofcourse now we have to integrate the two sides and hence my question. we are currently experimenting with openEJB; any alternative recommendations will be most welcome. thanks cheers ajay From: Mark Galbreath [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ejb's and tomcat Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 07:03:51 -0400 If you are asking these questions, you probably should not be using EJB. The ONLY reason to use EJB is if you are developing a distributed application; anything else is overkill. If you simply need data persistence, use JDBC and use DAO, or one of the persistence frameworks: Ibatus, Hibernate, or Kodo-JDO. Mark -Original Message- From: ajay brar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 9:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ejb's and tomcat Hi! does tomcat support ejb's. I'm building a web app which uses struts. i'm using ejb's for the model part. can i deploy the ejb component on tomcat? what other alternate ways are there to do so? thanks cheers ajay _ ninemsn Premium transforms your e-mail with colours, photos and animated text. Click here http://ninemsn.com.au/premium/landing.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Hot chart ringtones and polyphonics. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilemania/default.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Holmes and Schildt Book
I was surfing McGraw-Hill's website yesterday and spied a Java book co-authored by James Holmes and Herbert Schildt...anybody read this and can offer an opinion? I have been buying Schildt's C/C++ books for 10 years. Mark - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ejb's and tomcat
That's an improvement, but really has little to do with EJB entity beans. -Original Message- From: Brian McSweeney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 8:33 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: ejb's and tomcat Can't really agree with that. Besides, jboss have just employed the creator of hibernate and its CMP layer is going to be powered by hibernate in the near future anyway. So if you're a fan of hibernate, you'll get the same thing under the hood with jboss and CMP ejbs. -Original Message- From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 October 2003 11:08 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: ejb's and tomcat JBoss is crap, anyway. -Original Message- From: Brian McSweeney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 7:44 AM This isn't the case for jboss at least. You gain major performance increases. -Original Message- From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 October 2003 10:35 Yes, the advantage of using local interfaces in EJBs is avoiding the creation of stubs and skeletons, use of RMI and serialization. But what many people don't realize is that all the major containers have been doing this since 1.1 anyway, abeit in proprietary ways. You really gain no performance advantage by explicitly declaring an EJB interface local - you merely adhere to the specification. Mark -Original Message- From: Kunal H. Parikh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 8:20 PM The CMP2.x spec allows declaring EJBs as local objects. The advantage of the local EJB objects is that they don't get serialized/deserialized(I think) and pass-by-reference and not by-value. Effectively, If you use a LocalEJB, you have the flexibitly of making the REMOTE with very few changes to code. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: bean:write in html:text
Whatever, O'Rielly-boy. -Original Message- From: Andrew Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 7:47 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: bean:write in html:text snip Struts does not support /snip You mean JSP does not support surely? -Original Message- From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 9 October 2003 19:44 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: bean:write in html:text You will have to use JSP scripting or JSTL - Struts does not support nested tags as attributes. Mark -Original Message- From: Tim Smal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 7:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: bean:write in html:text I'd like to use a bean:write within my html:text tag. Like this: html:text property=value(key1) onmouseover=bean:write name=myForm property=myMethod// But I can't do it this way. Anyone has suggestions? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ejb's and tomcat
WebSphere 5.0, WebLogic 8.0, and even JRun 4.0 all optimize intra-container inter-bean method calls. I still maintain, however, that EJB has been over-hyped and (especially) now that iBATIS, Hibernate, and various JDO implementations are available, is overkill and too restrictive (e.g., does not support polymorphism nor inheritence). Ask yourself if you would use CORBA in the same situation. Mark -Original Message- From: Navjot Singh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 7:20 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: ejb's and tomcat then which one is good in your eyes? -Original Message- From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 4:38 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: ejb's and tomcat JBoss is crap, anyway. -Original Message- From: Brian McSweeney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 7:44 AM This isn't the case for jboss at least. You gain major performance increases. -Original Message- From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 October 2003 10:35 Yes, the advantage of using local interfaces in EJBs is avoiding the creation of stubs and skeletons, use of RMI and serialization. But what many people don't realize is that all the major containers have been doing this since 1.1 anyway, abeit in proprietary ways. You really gain no performance advantage by explicitly declaring an EJB interface local - you merely adhere to the specification. Mark -Original Message- From: Kunal H. Parikh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 8:20 PM The CMP2.x spec allows declaring EJBs as local objects. The advantage of the local EJB objects is that they don't get serialized/deserialized(I think) and pass-by-reference and not by-value. Effectively, If you use a LocalEJB, you have the flexibitly of making the REMOTE with very few changes to code. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ejb's and tomcat
If you are asking these questions, you probably should not be using EJB. The ONLY reason to use EJB is if you are developing a distributed application; anything else is overkill. If you simply need data persistence, use JDBC and use DAO, or one of the persistence frameworks: Ibatus, Hibernate, or Kodo-JDO. Mark -Original Message- From: ajay brar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 9:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ejb's and tomcat Hi! does tomcat support ejb's. I'm building a web app which uses struts. i'm using ejb's for the model part. can i deploy the ejb component on tomcat? what other alternate ways are there to do so? thanks cheers ajay _ ninemsn Premium transforms your e-mail with colours, photos and animated text. Click here http://ninemsn.com.au/premium/landing.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Books
Sure thing! It's always good to learn new things when idle, but you seem to need to start from the basics: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Cheers! Mark -Original Message- From: Brian Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 11:02 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: Books I'm a complete struts newb. I got tomcat 4.1 installed along with struts and eclipse. I was wondering if you guys could recommend a book for learning struts. Not necessarily a reference book. But it would be nice to have some good examples. Getting laid off has me starving to learn something new. So I'm trying to think of *something* to implement with struts. So yeah, book recommendations? -Brian Richards - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ejb's and tomcat
Is there an Aussie equivalent for hillbilly? -Original Message- From: Andrew Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 7:20 AM Nonsense! In the same way acronyms look great on resumes, they also look just super on product brochures. If you use EJBs you can proudly proclaim that your application is based on J2EE EJB technology! This is useful for impressing clueless manager types even if EJBs confer no actual technical dvantage (and often many disadvantages) to what your trying to do. btw: afaik its not just distributed stuff but also transaction type stuff its good for (but lets face it - most dbs do enough in that regards for most apps transaction needs already) -Original Message- From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 8 October 2003 19:04 If you are asking these questions, you probably should not be using EJB. The ONLY reason to use EJB is if you are developing a distributed application; anything else is overkill. If you simply need data persistence, use JDBC and use DAO, or one of the persistence frameworks: Ibatus, Hibernate, or Kodo-JDO. Mark -Original Message- From: ajay brar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 9:51 PM does tomcat support ejb's. I'm building a web app which uses struts. i'm using ejb's for the model part. can i deploy the ejb component on tomcat? what other alternate ways are there to do so? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Struts And iBATIS
Actually, Rick is Daniel's pimp, but he did do a nice job on the Ibatis tutorial. -Original Message- From: Daniel H. F. e Silva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 7:50 AM Take a loot at this URL: http://www.reumann.net It has a nice example of using iBatis and Struts together. It was designed by a great guy: Rick Reumann. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ejb's and tomcat
Have your action classes call methods on a DTO (data transfer object) that calls an EJB stateless session bean that will, in turn, call the business logic contained in EJB entity beans that reflect your datastore. State in the DTO can then be transferred to your ActionForm/DynaActionForm beans. Mark -Original Message- From: ajay brar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 8:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ejb's and tomcat hi! its actually for my software project at university. i am in uni. and the aim of the project is to use ejb with struts. we are developing a transaction/payment gateway. the ejb's will be implementing the model, ie, the actual transaction and also merchant support functions. since me and my group are still in uni(and learning among other things groupwork), we divided the tasks. so while i developed the web tier using struts someone else developed the ejb's and ofcourse now we have to integrate the two sides and hence my question. we are currently experimenting with openEJB; any alternative recommendations will be most welcome. thanks cheers ajay From: Mark Galbreath [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ejb's and tomcat Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2003 07:03:51 -0400 If you are asking these questions, you probably should not be using EJB. The ONLY reason to use EJB is if you are developing a distributed application; anything else is overkill. If you simply need data persistence, use JDBC and use DAO, or one of the persistence frameworks: Ibatus, Hibernate, or Kodo-JDO. Mark -Original Message- From: ajay brar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 9:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ejb's and tomcat Hi! does tomcat support ejb's. I'm building a web app which uses struts. i'm using ejb's for the model part. can i deploy the ejb component on tomcat? what other alternate ways are there to do so? thanks cheers ajay _ ninemsn Premium transforms your e-mail with colours, photos and animated text. Click here http://ninemsn.com.au/premium/landing.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Hot chart ringtones and polyphonics. Go to http://ninemsn.com.au/mobilemania/default.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Article] SoftwareFashion (includes paragraph about Struts)
Nothing really more than I've been saying for over a yearway too much complexity in these frameworks! too bad it's not Friday, though: http://www.softwarereality.com/truestories/ Mark -Original Message- From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Yann Cébron Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 11:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Article] SoftwareFashion (includes paragraph about Struts) Read for yourself and judge: http://www.softwarereality.com/soapbox/softwarefashion.jsp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Article] SoftwareFashion (includes paragraph about Struts)
Yeah! And I bet you didn't know that struts-user enforces a dress code, too?! Mark Cut us some slack, Keith. -Original Message- From: Keith Pemberton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 1:28 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [Article] SoftwareFashion (includes paragraph about Struts) This response was uncalled for... at least be more professional when responding to people through the listserv. - Original Message - From: Adam Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [Article] SoftwareFashion (includes paragraph about Struts) Hey, Steve ... Guess what? You don't understand Struts. (= From: Gregory Seidman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Article] SoftwareFashion (includes paragraph about Struts) Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 12:57:18 -0400 On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 09:32:52AM -0700, Steve Raeburn wrote: } 'In fact, we'd particularly invite Struts advocates to respond to this } article by describing the benefits that they feel Struts provides over } vanilla JSP.' } } Well if they don't get what Struts provides over vanilla JSP, then they } never will. Discussing what Struts provides compared to other MVC } frameworks might be useful, but the vanilla JSP topic is surely dead } and buried by now. This is a lousy attitude. It's like the stereotype of a woman who says, If you don't know what you did, I'm not going to tell you. If you can clearly and succinctly respond to his challenge, do so. If not, perhaps you don't understand Struts as well as you think. Myself, I'm still evaluating Struts. I have a prototype of my project written with vanilla JSP and a tiny custom taglib, and I'm trying to decide whether to rewrite it with Struts or simply clean it up and extend it. I can't, yet, see whether there is a net benefit to using Struts for my small project. [...] } Steve --Greg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ High-speed Internet access as low as $29.95/month (depending on the local service providers in your area). Click here. https://broadband.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Craig: Tomcat 5.0 WAR Deployment
Craig, I'm writing a simple Struts standalone app to Tomcat 5.0 (trying to learn Struts + JDO) and Tomcat is not auto-deploying the WAR after Ant compiles, assembles, and puts it in the webapps root. Auto-deploy is set to true in server.xml...anything else I am missing? Thx, Mark - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Craig: Tomcat 5.0 WAR Deployment [solution found]
1. If I need a subscription to tomcat-luser just to figure out why 5.0 is not auto-deploying a WAR, then there is something fundamentally flawed in 5.0; 2. I already have a subscription to yo' momma - and I'd rather RTFM; 3. I found the problem - error in path in deploy target in my Ant build.xml...it works per the documentation now. So, byte me, you bloody limey-wannabe! -Original Message- From: Andrew Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 8:41 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: Craig: Tomcat 5.0 WAR Deployment A subscription to the tomcat_user list perhaps? ;- -Original Message- From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 6 October 2003 20:35 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Craig: Tomcat 5.0 WAR Deployment Craig, I'm writing a simple Struts standalone app to Tomcat 5.0 (trying to learn Struts + JDO) and Tomcat is not auto-deploying the WAR after Ant compiles, assembles, and puts it in the webapps root. Auto-deploy is set to true in server.xml...anything else I am missing? Thx, Mark - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Craig: Tomcat 5.0 WAR Deployment
Cool...thx for the suggestions! -Original Message- From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 12:33 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: Craig: Tomcat 5.0 WAR Deployment Mark Galbreath wrote: Craig, I'm writing a simple Struts standalone app to Tomcat 5.0 (trying to learn Struts + JDO) and Tomcat is not auto-deploying the WAR after Ant compiles, assembles, and puts it in the webapps root. Auto-deploy is set to true in server.xml...anything else I am missing? I don't like the autodeploy from the webapps feature because you can't undeploy. I tend to use the install and remove and reload Ant tasks instead: http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-5.0-doc/manager-howto.html#Executing %20Manager%20Commands%20With%20Ant Note that you don't have to copy anything -- just tell Tomcat to deploy directly from your build directory (if you're on the same machine). An example build.xml that supports this feature can be found at: http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-5.0-doc/appdev/index.html Thx, Mark Craig - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] Simon Chappell's Top 10 Picks for the Wisconsin Quarter
For the past several years, the US Mint has been producing quarters commemorating the different states. The quarters have a symbol of whichever state stamped on the back and the citizens of Wisconsin just voted to have a cow's head, a wheel of cheese and an ear of corn on their quarter. There were, however, several other symbols of the state submitted by Simon that didn't make it. Here are his top ten, in no particular order: 10: Farmer Brown sexually molesting a cow. 9. A 4x4 pickup breaking through the ice and sinking. 8. The Mars Cheese Castle. 7. A Green Bay linebacker stepping on the neck of a Chicago Bears quarterback. 6. A drunk snowmobiler crashing into the ravine. 5. A car with Wisconsin plates and its left turn signal blinking, sitting at an Illinois tollbooth with the gate still down because the driver didn't put enough change in the basket. 4. Vince Lombardi, Ray Nitschke and Bret Favre. 3. An X-ray of a bloated and gassy human stomach filled to capacity with brats and beer. 2. A fish fry at the supper club. 1. Two deer hunters shooting each other in the ass. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: EJB's vs. Hibernate vs. Torque vs. custom DTO's
simple answer: http://java.sun.com/products/jdo/ Mark -Original Message- From: Sasha Borodin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 3:10 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: EJB's vs. Hibernate vs. Torque vs. custom DTO's I hope I'm not comparing apples and oranges; if I am, please excuse the ignorance, and slap me upside the head... The subject line says it all - I'm investigating the appropriate uses of the above technologies to move data between databases and objects. Thus far in my development career, I've relied on my own DTO's - homegrown primitive lazy loading, caching, etc. As I'm starting projects for other companies, I'm realizing that no one wants home-grown solutions where standards and proven products have already filled the niche. Thus, I'd like to get some opinions as to the level of complexity and appropriate use of EJBs and other object-relational bridging technologies. Who uses what, why, and where? :-) -Sasha Borodin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[FRIDAY] Hip-Hop Hits Bahgdad
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RE: Struts Case Study
Does the company have to be using CASE? -Original Message- From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 12:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Struts Case Study I've recently finished filming a Struts video presentation for a company called WatchIT and they're looking for a large company using Struts to do a case study on. If you're interested please contact me. Thanks, James Holmes Struts Console http://www.jamesholmes.com/struts/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: newbie: Best Practice Struts/Value-Objects?
Could you not, then, consider ActionForms and DynaActionForms xfer objects? Mark -Original Message- From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 2:42 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: newbie: Best Practice Struts/Value-Objects? Value Objects, also called Transfer Objects, are a design pattern. The idea is that you can minimize the calls to the business tier by collecting all the data you might need at once and submitting it as a batch. (Opposed to, say, updating a form a line a time.) The properties on the Transfer Object might be used by more than one business component, but you collect them all together to minimize the number of trips to the business layer. The ActionForms are a type of Transfer Object. They transfer data between a HTML form on the presentation layer to the Action on the controller layer. (But most people would say they should not travel past the Action.) Many people also use Transfer Objects on the business layer, and often the ActionForms and their Transfer Objects will look alot alike. (Annoyingly so, some might say.) It's commonplace for someone to collect what they need on an ActionForm and then copy all that over to a Transfer Object, for submittal to the business layer. Sometimes people will even nest a Transfer Object on a ActionForm. Another approach is to have the ActionForm implement the Transfer Object's interface. If your Transfer Objects and ActionForms share the same protocol (use the same propert names), you can also pass your Transfer Object directly to the HTML page. The HTML form tag doesn't care if you use an ActionForm to populate a form or not, so long as the properties match. If you kept your ActionForm in session scope, then you could just expose five fields and keep the others intact. Just watch the that your reset method doesn't blank them out. Without using session scope (or a cookie), there is no clean way to retain the fields without writing them out on the page somehow. One trick is to use a method that will spit out whatever hidden fields you need and then just call that using bean:write. For this use-case, another approach would be to create a more finely grained business layer. If you only need to update five fields, then you should be able to update only those five fields. So you would have another database query that set those five fields, but left the others alone. The others may exist on the Transfer Object, but the other database query can just ignore those. -Ted. Darren Hartford wrote: Hi all! Been working with struts and value-objects, and I am beginning to understand the power of these two in combination. I did however run into a snag that may be either on purpose or just ignorance on my part. If I pass a 20-field value-object to an ActionForm (let's say an EmployeeVO), and I only show the employee's name and address for editing (only 5 or so fields). They make the necessary changes and submit the form. What I understand is the form will populate a NEW EmployeeVO and not make the changes to the original EmployeeVO, thereby creating an EmployeeVO populated only from the 5 fields on the form and nulling the other 15 fields. I was hoping to take an existing Value-Object, only make necessary changes from the submitted form (i.e. 0-5 changed fields and the other 15 stay the way they are), and then re-submit the Value-Object for updating the DB, but that does not seem possible. Am I doing something wrong and/or mis-understanding the best utilization of Value-Objects with Struts? Again, I'm a newbie so any pointers, help, or examples would be great! thanky in advance! -D - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ted Husted, Junit in Action - http://www.manning.com/massol/, Struts in Action - http://husted.com/struts/book.html, JSP Site Design - http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN=1861005512. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Urgent help reqd Stuck..!! - Getting a value String[] from a Form Bean
1. setRate() isn't doing a thing.
2. use JSTL to iterate over the array using c:forEach after setting a
page-scoped variable containing the array:
c:set var='arrayValues' value='${pageScope.request.myForm.rate}'/
tr
c:forEach items='$(arrayValues)' var='item'
td
c:out value='$(item)'/
/td
/c:forEach
/tr
Mark
-Original Message-
From: Chawla, Yogesh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 5:46 AM
My form bean contains the following get set methods :
setRate(String[] rate)
{
rate = this.rate;
}
public String[] getRate()
{
return rate (which is the String[])
}
Also one int variable (counter) which stores the no. of elements in the
Array.
public int counter() {
return counter;
}
public void setCounter(int counter) {
counter = this.counter;
}
How to get these values in the JSP for iterating the String[] counter no. of
times...
Pls. assist...
Thanx for your help.
Regards.
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[OT] So, you think your job sucks?
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RE: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
That's fine if, of course, you subscribe to the school of thought prescribing a pre-code test (which I do not). Mark -Original Message- From: Vic Cekvenic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 3:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm +1 ActionForms. On of the benefits of Modular/MVC programing is that you can unit test a module, before integrating it. .V Andrew Hill wrote: Call me old fashioned but I always use good old hand coded ActionForms. Guess I like having something my compiler can get its teeth into. :-) Now that Im using Eclipse getters and setters are no problem at all. I love that generate getter setter menu option. :-) (Validation isnt an issue for me either way as Ive always found it more convenient to do in the Action) -Original Message- From: Mainguy, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 1 October 2003 00:52 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm Next in my series of struts-user polls (please complain if this gets old). What sort of ActionForms does everyone use? #1 ActionForm #2 DynaActionForm Personally, I'm an advocate of the DynaActionForm as it seems to be able to do 80-90% of everything I need to do and everything else can be done in my business tier. I have, however, run into another person who is dead set against using it. His rationale is that you are then unable to do custom validation when you use the DynaValidatorForm... I think you can still do it, it's just a little more difficult, but, I'm polling to see if I'm out in left field... This message and its contents (to include attachments) are the property of Kmart Corporation (Kmart) and may contain confidential and proprietary information. You are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on information contained herein is strictly prohibited. Unauthorized use of information contained herein may subject you to civil and criminal prosecution and penalties. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message immediately. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
Reread my post, you illiterate pseudo-limey! -Original Message- From: Andrew Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 6:45 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm I subscribe to that school. I believe everything should have a unit test. Its a very good school... ...I just happen to be playing truant today. -Original Message- From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 1 October 2003 18:41 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm That's fine if, of course, you subscribe to the school of thought prescribing a pre-code test (which I do not). Mark -Original Message- From: Vic Cekvenic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 3:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm +1 ActionForms. On of the benefits of Modular/MVC programing is that you can unit test a module, before integrating it. .V Andrew Hill wrote: Call me old fashioned but I always use good old hand coded ActionForms. Guess I like having something my compiler can get its teeth into. :-) Now that Im using Eclipse getters and setters are no problem at all. I love that generate getter setter menu option. :-) (Validation isnt an issue for me either way as Ive always found it more convenient to do in the Action) -Original Message- From: Mainguy, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 1 October 2003 00:52 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm Next in my series of struts-user polls (please complain if this gets old). What sort of ActionForms does everyone use? #1 ActionForm #2 DynaActionForm Personally, I'm an advocate of the DynaActionForm as it seems to be able to do 80-90% of everything I need to do and everything else can be done in my business tier. I have, however, run into another person who is dead set against using it. His rationale is that you are then unable to do custom validation when you use the DynaValidatorForm... I think you can still do it, it's just a little more difficult, but, I'm polling to see if I'm out in left field... This message and its contents (to include attachments) are the property of Kmart Corporation (Kmart) and may contain confidential and proprietary information. You are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on information contained herein is strictly prohibited. Unauthorized use of information contained herein may subject you to civil and criminal prosecution and penalties. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message immediately. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
when? -Original Message- From: Andrew Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 6:39 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm That was me and it was over a year ago when I was a struts newbie... -Original Message- From: Adam Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 1 October 2003 18:33 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm I remember a while back I think it was Mark made an excellent post about his problem with ActionForms that went along the lines of 'Old Macdonald had an ActionForm'. Well basically I think the problem was he had edited an existing ActionForm and messed up the getter / setter so that his JSP refused to recognise the form as a Javabean and it ended up costing a fair few hours work to track down the error. So another +1 for DynaActionForms. On 10/01/2003 06:02 AM Andrew Hill wrote: Call me old fashioned but I always use good old hand coded ActionForms. Guess I like having something my compiler can get its teeth into. :-) Now that Im using Eclipse getters and setters are no problem at all. I love that generate getter setter menu option. :-) (Validation isnt an issue for me either way as Ive always found it more convenient to do in the Action) -Original Message- From: Mainguy, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 1 October 2003 00:52 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm Next in my series of struts-user polls (please complain if this gets old). What sort of ActionForms does everyone use? #1 ActionForm #2 DynaActionForm Personally, I'm an advocate of the DynaActionForm as it seems to be able to do 80-90% of everything I need to do and everything else can be done in my business tier. I have, however, run into another person who is dead set against using it. His rationale is that you are then unable to do custom validation when you use the DynaValidatorForm... I think you can still do it, it's just a little more difficult, but, I'm polling to see if I'm out in left field... This message and its contents (to include attachments) are the property of Kmart Corporation (Kmart) and may contain confidential and proprietary information. You are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on information contained herein is strictly prohibited. Unauthorized use of information contained herein may subject you to civil and criminal prosecution and penalties. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message immediately. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- struts 1.1 + tomcat 5.0.12 + java 1.4.2 Linux 2.4.20 RH9 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [OT] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
At the time, I couldn't think of a suitably rude-enough disparaging remark for an expatriate Aussie. Nevertheless, for posterity's and newbies' sakes, we do kid each other here from time-to-time and no real personal attacks are tolerated. That being said, Andrew, I never have liked you. Mark ;-) -Original Message- From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 7:08 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm I know you guys are used to joshing each other, but let's still observe the rule that while we might disrespect a technology choice, but we don't disrespect the person making the choice. Of course, anyone who knows Mark and Andrew knows this exchange is all in good fun, but all of this gets archived for posterity, and people new to the list can take it out of context. -Ted. Mark Galbreath wrote: Reread my post, you illiterate pseudo-limey! -Original Message- From: Andrew Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 6:45 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm I subscribe to that school. I believe everything should have a unit test. Its a very good school... ...I just happen to be playing truant today. -Original Message- From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 1 October 2003 18:41 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm That's fine if, of course, you subscribe to the school of thought prescribing a pre-code test (which I do not). Mark - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [OT] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
Don't quit yer day job - the Malaysian Poet Laureate position is probably tentative at best. -Original Message- From: Andrew Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 7:10 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=struts-userm=102696975022454w=2 -Original Message- From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 1 October 2003 18:59 To: Struts Users Mailing List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm when? -Original Message- From: Andrew Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 6:39 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm That was me and it was over a year ago when I was a struts newbie... -Original Message- From: Adam Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 1 October 2003 18:33 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm I remember a while back I think it was Mark made an excellent post about his problem with ActionForms that went along the lines of 'Old Macdonald had an ActionForm'. Well basically I think the problem was he had edited an existing ActionForm and messed up the getter / setter so that his JSP refused to recognise the form as a Javabean and it ended up costing a fair few hours work to track down the error. So another +1 for DynaActionForms. On 10/01/2003 06:02 AM Andrew Hill wrote: Call me old fashioned but I always use good old hand coded ActionForms. Guess I like having something my compiler can get its teeth into. :-) Now that Im using Eclipse getters and setters are no problem at all. I love that generate getter setter menu option. :-) (Validation isnt an issue for me either way as Ive always found it more convenient to do in the Action) -Original Message- From: Mainguy, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 1 October 2003 00:52 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm Next in my series of struts-user polls (please complain if this gets old). What sort of ActionForms does everyone use? #1 ActionForm #2 DynaActionForm Personally, I'm an advocate of the DynaActionForm as it seems to be able to do 80-90% of everything I need to do and everything else can be done in my business tier. I have, however, run into another person who is dead set against using it. His rationale is that you are then unable to do custom validation when you use the DynaValidatorForm... I think you can still do it, it's just a little more difficult, but, I'm polling to see if I'm out in left field... This message and its contents (to include attachments) are the property of Kmart Corporation (Kmart) and may contain confidential and proprietary information. You are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on information contained herein is strictly prohibited. Unauthorized use of information contained herein may subject you to civil and criminal prosecution and penalties. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message immediately. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- struts 1.1 + tomcat 5.0.12 + java 1.4.2 Linux 2.4.20 RH9 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[FRIDAY] (early) The Race
Arianna just dropped out of the race for governor, so this URL will probably go down soon: http://votearianna.com/movie Mark - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: books and tutorials
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html The Definitive Answer. -Original Message- From: Carlos Llona [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 1:07 PM Im new in Struts but its very interesting,but I dont find goob books or tutorials to download, please if anyone knows links send me plz - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [POLL] ActionFrom vs DynaActionForm
As Linus Tovalds said about SCO, You must be smokin' crack. -Original Message- From: Brandon Goodin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 1:28 PM #1 Reasons: -Dynas massive struts configs are annoying and the runtime errors bite. -DynaForm time saving is insignificant (how long does it take for your ide to generate getters/setters?). -Refactoring is easier is traditional ActionForms -Also, for all the time that you spend restarting your tomcat for each change you make to the config you could make changes to a hard class more easily and let the classloader reaload it instead of the whole container. -An ActionForm is more cleanly organized in package structures (not configs). -DynaForms also have limitations in regards to the use of LazyList -DynaForms also make extending more difficult -DynaForms also don't have traditional getters and setter for the times that you want to insert code into them (personally, I use them quite often cuz I don't like huge Action classes) That said... I am not completely anti Dyna. I just don't see the value in using them for everything. I've used them for my whole app and didn't find them that useful. But, I have used them in niche cases where I wanted to enhance chained action classes (see http://strutschaining.org/ ). But, even that can be solved with a mapped back form. IMAO - I do not see the case for DynaForms. But, I am willing to be convinced. Brandon Goodin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: And now for something completely different... [OT]
What do expect from a manager? Managers are like art critics: if they were worth a damn in their fields, they would be DOING, not observing. I'd rather have an alcoholic C++ programmer than a manager any day of the week. At least the alcoholic coder is incompetent only part of the time. Mark -Original Message- From: Andrew Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 11:39 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: And now for something completely different... [OT] snip This just strikes me as a very strange statement -- I don't get it. /snip Too much BSD will do that to you... -Original Message- From: Max Cooper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 26 September 2003 04:28 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: And now for something completely different... [OT] What's with this?: Drug and alcohol abusers will vehemently deny their addiction, especially UNIX systems administrators... Are Unix Sys Admins the hardest partyers of the IT bunch? Or maybe the author thinks that Unix is over, and that the sysadmins are just in denial about that and thus prone to denial about other problems? This just strikes me as a very strange statement -- I don't get it. -Max - Original Message - From: Christian Bollmeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 12:06 PM Subject: And now for something completely different... [OT] Please don't kick me for posting this here, but still, one or two might possibly be interested in taking notice: http://www.dba-oracle.com/art_firing.htm It's always good to know one's enemies :-) -- Chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: JSP IDEs
DreamweaverMX will do this. -Original Message- From: Stankard, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 9:16 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: JSP IDEs Hello there, I'm working on a JSP application in WSAD 5.0. Does anyone know a way to have the WYSIWYG JSP previewer evaluate jsp:include statements in a JSP? I'm working with JSPs that have jsp:include statements that include header/footer files that hold stuff like javascript, html tags and formatting HTML tags. If this can't be done in WSAD, does anyone know of another JSP editor that will do this? Thanks, David Stankard - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New Concept.
huh? -Original Message- From: Abhijeet Mahalkar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 6:04 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: New Concept. Hi All , A Small Request... We always ask those questions only, for which we don't get solutions easily. So somebody from the group solves that question. But what about those question which we do ask and later on we only get the solution of it. In such a case we have to keep informed the other developers about the solution appeared for the question. And also if we get some small small problems which we solve ourself within 1 - 2 hrs... Please keep informed others also about those problems as well as solutions of it. So every time we will not wait for the solutions to get appeared in the list. It may be ready in the list. regards, Abhijeet Mahalkar. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New Concept.
I was serious! I reread the post 4 times and could not tell what the msg was until I read Ted's reply, then read it again, and I'm still not sure. On the other hand, I have advocated your position before. Mark -Original Message- From: Mike Deegan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 12:43 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: New Concept. Come on Mark it's Monday ! Give him / her a break. Not a bad request really ... if you work on some Struts related problem for more than an hour and you think the list would benefit from how you solved your problem - it wouldn't hurt to take a couple of minutes and document the problem and solution and post it back to the list - mainly helpful for newcomers to Struts one thinks - maybe helpful to all depending on the problem - and maybe a new take on the solution. Just my $0.02 ! Later Mike - Original Message - From: Mark Galbreath [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 10:16 AM Subject: RE: New Concept. huh? -Original Message- From: Abhijeet Mahalkar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 6:04 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: New Concept. Hi All , A Small Request... We always ask those questions only, for which we don't get solutions easily. So somebody from the group solves that question. But what about those question which we do ask and later on we only get the solution of it. In such a case we have to keep informed the other developers about the solution appeared for the question. And also if we get some small small problems which we solve ourself within 1 - 2 hrs... Please keep informed others also about those problems as well as solutions of it. So every time we will not wait for the solutions to get appeared in the list. It may be ready in the list. regards, Abhijeet Mahalkar. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[FRIDAY] So...you think M$ is evil?
http://www.wewantyoursoul.com/index.php muhahahaha! Mark - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [FRIDAY] So...you think M$ is evil?
But I understand you can get a second mortgageif you have any equity left. -Original Message- From: Andrew Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 9:13 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: [FRIDAY] So...you think M$ is evil? £20510 eh? Tempting... but I think my current employee contract already covers the rights to it :-( -Original Message- From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 21 September 2003 20:56 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: [FRIDAY] So...you think M$ is evil? http://www.wewantyoursoul.com/index.php muhahahaha! Mark - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [FRIDAY] So...you think M$ is evil?
doh! I thought it read, autorobotic! (no batteries included) -Original Message- From: Adam Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 11:07 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [FRIDAY] So...you think M$ is evil? I got £57000 or so - You obviously answered the question about autoerotic sex wrongly! On 09/21/2003 03:12 PM Andrew Hill wrote: £20510 eh? Tempting... but I think my current employee contract already covers the rights to it :-( -Original Message- From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, 21 September 2003 20:56 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: [FRIDAY] So...you think M$ is evil? http://www.wewantyoursoul.com/index.php muhahahaha! Mark - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- struts 1.1 + tomcat 4.1.27 + java 1.4.2 Linux 2.4.20 RH9 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: jstl question
I don't get it. Accessors for JavaBeans do not use parameters (public
String getValueNum()); mutators use parameters (public void setValueNum(
String param ). Why are you passing an accessor a param argument?
Nevertheless, if this were a real JavaBean, you would set and get its values
in JSTL like this:
// reference the tab library
@ taglib uri=http://java.sun.com/jstl/core; prefix=c %
// instantiate the bean in page scope
jsp:useBean id='whatever' class='myPackage.MyJavaBean'/
// set the property from the request parameter passed to the page
c:set target='${whatever}' property='ValueNum'
value='${param.valueNum}'/('
// print the parameter value
c:out value='${param.valueNum}'/
Happy Hurricanes!
Mark
-Original Message-
From: Richard Raquepo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 12:10 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: jstl question
i have a bean that has this gettter method
...
public String getValueNum(String param){
}
...
using struts tag i can call it like:
bean:write name=bean value=valueNum(test)/
and it will works.
now i can't seem to figure out how can i do that using jstl.
i need your expert advice on this very simple problem that i can't seem to
hack.
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RE: jstl question
smartass
-Original Message-
From: Bradley Handy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 9:44 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: jstl question
Accessors of java.util.Map implementations use a single parameter. Is
the instance variable behind the valueNum property an implementation
of java.util.Map (ie. HashMap,
org.apache.commons.collections.FastHashMap, etc)?
If it is, then Mark's suggestion needs one little tweak.
Change: ${whatever} - ${whatever.key}
Where key is the java.util.Map key, under which, you wish to store
your parameter from your form.
Brad Handy
-Original Message-
From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 9:39 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: jstl question
I don't get it. Accessors for JavaBeans do not use parameters (public
String getValueNum()); mutators use parameters (public void
setValueNum(
String param ). Why are you passing an accessor a param argument?
Nevertheless, if this were a real JavaBean, you would set and get its
values
in JSTL like this:
// reference the tab library
@ taglib uri=http://java.sun.com/jstl/core; prefix=c %
// instantiate the bean in page scope
jsp:useBean id='whatever' class='myPackage.MyJavaBean'/
// set the property from the request parameter passed to the page
c:set target='${whatever}' property='ValueNum'
value='${param.valueNum}'/('
// print the parameter value
c:out value='${param.valueNum}'/
Happy Hurricanes!
Mark
-Original Message-
From: Richard Raquepo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 12:10 AM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: jstl question
i have a bean that has this gettter method
...
public String getValueNum(String param){
}
...
using struts tag i can call it like:
bean:write name=bean value=valueNum(test)/
and it will works.
now i can't seem to figure out how can i do that using jstl.
i need your expert advice on this very simple problem that i can't
seem to
hack.
thanks
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RE: bean:write property= Format a Date ?
Just use java.text.DateFormat in your action class and set a String property in your form bean with the result. Easy as pie. -Original Message- From: Abhijeet Mahalkar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 8:45 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: bean:write property= Format a Date ? I don't thing struts provide you formating date functionality as i never tried also but frankly it will take another 20 min. to write a function for formatting date.. use string.substring methods and all after retriving the date from DB using getStirng() or use to_char(datefield,'dd/mm/ hh24:mi:ss') or any other format u want. and if you are working with Java Date class then calculate the long value of that with String s = date.getDay()+/+ getMonth()+/getYear() functions it's really simple... regards abhijeet - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts-User [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 6:00 PM Subject: bean:write property= Format a Date ? one of my Bean propertys is a Date and i want to output it formated, is there a way to do that with struts ? Mit freundlichen Grüßen Christian Reps, Dipl. Inf. (FH) Web Applications - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: problem in getproperties.
Why are you creating a new I/O object when the execute method gets the resource passed as a parameter argument? MessageResources properties = getResources( request ); properties.getProperty( key ); Mark -Original Message- From: deepaksawdekar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 8:58 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: problem in getproperties. I am using following code to access the property from properties file in my action class. Code snippet is as follows... .. InputStream in = ClassLoader.getSystemResourceAsStream( propertyFilePath); properties.load(in); value = properties.getProperty(key); When I write the main in action class it works fine but when i copied the same code to execute method, the code does not load the propertyfilepath file properly even though in both the case class path and location of file is same. Am i doing something wrong. Deepak - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: problem in getproperties.
I thought about that, Andrew After I hit send, of course. :-) -Original Message- From: Andrew Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 10:36 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: problem in getproperties. Maybe thats not the particular property file he is trying to load? Try using getServlet().getServletContext().getResourceAsStream( propertyFilePath ); In your actions execute method. snip src=javadocs This method is different from java.lang.Class.getResourceAsStream, which uses a class loader. This method allows servlet containers to make a resource available to a servlet from any location, without using a class loader. /snip -Original Message- From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 9 September 2003 22:23 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: problem in getproperties. Why are you creating a new I/O object when the execute method gets the resource passed as a parameter argument? MessageResources properties = getResources( request ); properties.getProperty( key ); Mark -Original Message- From: deepaksawdekar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 8:58 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: problem in getproperties. I am using following code to access the property from properties file in my action class. Code snippet is as follows... .. InputStream in = ClassLoader.getSystemResourceAsStream( propertyFilePath); properties.load(in); value = properties.getProperty(key); When I write the main in action class it works fine but when i copied the same code to execute method, the code does not load the propertyfilepath file properly even though in both the case class path and location of file is same. Am i doing something wrong. Deepak - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Avoid Validate After Submit
You can't unless you move the validation to the Action class. Mark -Original Message- From: Andre Michel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 8:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Avoid Validate After Submit Hello ... I'd like to have two submit buttons on a page. Pressing no. 1 should run through validation, pressing no. 2 should avoid this. How am I able to this in a good way? I'm using Struts 1.01 thus validate method is in the form bean. Any hints would be welcomed, Andre Michel -- COMPUTERBILD 15/03: Premium-e-mail-Dienste im Test -- 1. GMX TopMail - Platz 1 und Testsieger! 2. GMX ProMail - Platz 2 und Preis-Qualitätssieger! 3. Arcor - 4. web.de - 5. T-Online - 6. freenet.de - 7. daybyday - 8. e-Post - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[FRIDAY] Project Management
A tourist walked into a pet shop and was looking at the animals on display. While he was there, another customer walked in and said to the shopkeeper, I'll have a C monkey please. The shopkeeper nodded, went over to a cage at the side of the shop and took out a monkey. He fit a collar and leash, handed it to the customer, saying, That'll be $5,000. The customer paid and walked out with his monkey. Startled, the tourist went over to the shopkeeper and said, That is a very expensive monkey. Why did it cost so much? The shopkeeper answered, Ah, that monkey can program in C - very fast, tight code, no bugs, well worth the money. The tourist looked at the monkey in another cage. That one's even more expensive! $10,000! What does it do? Oh, that one's a C++ monkey; it can manage object-oriented programming, Visual C++, even some Java. All the really useful stuff, said the shopkeeper. The tourist looked around for a little longer and saw a third monkey in a cage of it's own. The price tag around its neck read $50,000. He gasped to the shopkeeper, That one costs more than all the other put together! What on earth does it do? The shopkeeper replied, Well, I haven't actually seen it do anything, but, the other monkeys call him the Project Manager. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[FRIDAY] Project Management
A tourist walked into a pet shop and was looking at the animals on display. While he was there, another customer walked in and said to the shopkeeper, I'll have a C monkey please. The shopkeeper nodded, went over to a cage at the side of the shop and took out a monkey. He fit a collar and leash, handed it to the customer, saying, That'll be $5,000. The customer paid and walked out with his monkey. Startled, the tourist went over to the shopkeeper and said, That is a very expensive monkey. Why did it cost so much? The shopkeeper answered, Ah, that monkey can program in C - very fast, tight code, no bugs, well worth the money. The tourist looked at the monkey in another cage. That one's even more expensive! $10,000! What does it do? Oh, that one's a C++ monkey; it can manage object-oriented programming, Visual C++, even some Java. All the really useful stuff, said the shopkeeper. The tourist looked around for a little longer and saw a third monkey in a cage of it's own. The price tag around its neck read $50,000. He gasped to the shopkeeper, That one costs more than all the other put together! What on earth does it do? The shopkeeper replied, Well, I haven't actually seen it do anything, but, the other monkeys call him the Project Manager. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: closing tag for html tags...
The simple truth is, is that we were all drunk, drinking beer and eating crabs that night we put all this shit up on the whiteboard and had such a bad hangover the next morning that we decided just to include it into the spec and deal with it later, man. Oh, my head still hurts from that night Mark -Original Message- From: Pady Srinivasan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 3:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: closing tag for html tags... I was wondering why Struts doesn't put closing tags on the html generated. Like html:text property=name / Generates input type=text name=name value= Where is the / or /input ? Is there a reason for not generating this ? Thanks -- pady [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Error ordering
Sort the errors alphanumerically? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 5:22 AM Has any of you had an easy solution to the error ordering problem? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Is there a way to disable the browser's Back button without sending an http request?
Set a token in request scope and use Struts logic tags to test is presence
and value, then forward or not. Simple.
Mark
-Original Message-
From: Jing Zhou [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 11:53 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Is there a way to disable the browser's Back button without
sending an http request?
It looks to me the answer is NO, although we could use Java script
location.replace('url'). But the statement sends out an http request.
I would like to know if there is a different answer to it.
Jing
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RE: Information about visitors using my portal
Jason Hunter explains how to do this in Java Servlet Programming, 2d ed. (O'Reilly 2002): Chapter 7. Mark -Original Message- From: Stefan Trcko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 5:55 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Information about visitors using my portal Hello I want to get information of how many visitors is currently using my portal. When someone open url www.iz-fotelja.com I create a session, so I think that from all of the currently active sessions I can get this statistic. But I don't know how to implement it. Any suggestions? Best regards Stefan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: How can i simply show a form property as a simple text
or bean:message/ -Original Message- From: Mike Jasnowski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 9:31 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: How can i simply show a form property as a simple text bean:write/ -Original Message- From: Florent LOTHON [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 9:25 AM To: Struts Subject: How can i simply show a form property as a simple text Hi In an editing form page How can i simply show a form property as a simple text (not in an html:xxx input tag). Flo -- Ce message est protege par les regles relatives au secret des correspondances ; il peut en outre contenir des informations a caractere confidentiel ou protegees par differentes regles et notamment le secret des affaires ; il est etabli a destination exclusive de son destinataire. Toute divulgation, utilisation, diffusion ou reproduction (totale ou partielle) de ce message, ou des informations qu'il contient, doit etre prealablement autorisee. Tout message electronique est susceptible d'alteration et son integrite ne peut etre assuree. Les AGF declinent toute responsabilite au titre de ce message s'il a ete modifie ou falsifie. Si vous n'etes pas destinataire de ce message, merci de le detruire immediatement et d'avertir l'expediteur de l'erreur de distribution et de la destruction du message. This message is protected by the secrecy of correspondence rules ; furthermore it may contain privileged or confidential information that is protected by law, notably by the secrecy of business relations rule ; it is intended solely for the attention of the addressee . Any disclosure, use, dissemination or reproduction (either whole or partial) of this message or the information contained herein is strictly prohibited without prior consent. Any electronic message is susceptible to alteration and its integrity can not be assured. AGF declines any responsibility for this message in the event of alteration or falsification.. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy it immediately and notify the sender of the wrong delivery and the mail deletion. -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: basic struts question...
Is that heroix.com or herion.duh? -Original Message- From: Pady Srinivasan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 10:00 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: basic struts question... I have exactly that. It doesn't work. I don't have the Action class. Could that be creating a problem ? I was expecting Struts to throw an error about the missing class. Anyways, I will create an Action class and see. Thanks -- pady [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: David Friedman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 5:35 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: basic struts question... Pady, Your external url of http://myserver/taglib/jsp/submit.do, suggests your application is mapped to /taglib/. That means your directory structure should be: taglib/jsp taglib/WEB-INF/struts-config.xml taglib/WEB-INF/web.xml taglib/WEB-INF/classes taglib/WEB-INF/lib (and so forth Then your mapping should as: (path modified) action-mappings action path=/jsp/submit type=com.heroix.firenze.webui.actions.TabChangeAction forward name=success path=/jsp/tiles_insert.jsp/ /action /action-mappings Regards, David -Original Message- From: Pady Srinivasan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 4:59 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: basic struts question... I tried all the changes recommended here, but it doesn't work. I hope you meant changing action path=/jsp/submit... to action path=/jsp/submit.do... That didn't work. Thanks -- pady [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 4:32 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: basic struts question... Specifically, the URL in your action path in struts-config.xml. -Original Message- From: Bradley Handy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 4:28 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: basic struts question... You need to append the .do extension to your request URL. -Original Message- From: Pady Srinivasan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 3:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: basic struts question... If I have an action-mapping defined as action-mappings actionpath=/taglib/jsp/submit type=com.heroix.firenze.webui.actions.TabChangeAction forward name=success path=/jsp/tiles_insert.jsp/ /action /action-mappings When I access http://myserver/taglib/jsp/submit.do I get an error Invalid path /jsp/submit was requested. My web.xml does have *.do mapped to ActionServlet. What am I doing wrong ? Thanks -- pady [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Bars Graph
yeahsure. JFreeChart may be free but unless you are a friggin genius, you have to pony up $150 for the documentation in order to be able to use it. Mark -Original Message- From: Ronald Rotteveel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 11:41 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: Bars Graph Hello, I'm not going to say anything about choosing struts is the right choice. And I think some people won't call it a TOOL, it's more like a framework... What I can say is something about the Bars Graph tool/library you need. I personally think that http://www.jfree.org/jfreechart/index.html is a very good one and it's Open Source (LGPL) and free. There is also another project that uses this library for a custom tag library called: http://cewolf.sourceforge.net/ Hope this helps Cheers, Ronald - Original Message - From: NYIMI Jose (BMB) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 5:20 PM Subject: Bars Graph Hello, I have following needs: * parse a text files on daily basis * put the result into database * buit a web application upon above database * provide the client a web form where he can choose which graph to see * on submit, connect to database, plot the graph(bars) and render it to the client as an image I would like to build my web application using struts (hope i have choosen a right tool :-) ) Is there any re-usable component that will build graphs (image) for me. Let say, i will give it (x,y) pairs of data and it will build bars graph ? Any inputs is welcome. Thanks in advance DISCLAIMER This e-mail and any attachment thereto may contain information which is confidential and/or protected by intellectual property rights and are intended for the sole use of the recipient(s) named above. Any use of the information contained herein (including, but not limited to, total or partial reproduction, communication or distribution in any form) by other persons than the designated recipient(s) is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender either by telephone or by e-mail and delete the material from any computer. Thank you for your cooperation. For further information about Proximus mobile phone services please see our website at http://www.proximus.be or refer to any Proximus agent. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: basic struts question...
Specifically, the URL in your action path in struts-config.xml. -Original Message- From: Bradley Handy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 4:28 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: basic struts question... You need to append the .do extension to your request URL. -Original Message- From: Pady Srinivasan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 3:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: basic struts question... If I have an action-mapping defined as action-mappings actionpath=/taglib/jsp/submit type=com.heroix.firenze.webui.actions.TabChangeAction forward name=success path=/jsp/tiles_insert.jsp/ /action /action-mappings When I access http://myserver/taglib/jsp/submit.do I get an error Invalid path /jsp/submit was requested. My web.xml does have *.do mapped to ActionServlet. What am I doing wrong ? Thanks -- pady [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Vacancy
Where the heck is this? Is English spoken there? -Original Message- From: Indra Gunawan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 9:27 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: FW: Vacancy PT. BenihInti Subur Intani (BISI), Charoen Pokphand (CP) group, is one of the Plantation and Plant Research export oriented National company. We are developing a web based application for supporting our growing business. We are now having a vacancy for System DEveloper position for our Pare, Kediri site. We seek candidate with specific criterias as mentioned below: 1. At least Bachelor degree in Computer science with GAP =2.75 2. Ability in JAVA and JSP is a must. 3. Fully understanding in RDBMS concept. 4. ability in Oracle/MySQL is highly valued. Full application include : -CV or Resume -Your Recent Photo or scanned Photo -Copy of your certificates Send your full application to [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or by postal service to Attn : P.Suryanto, EDP PO BOX 1261, Surabaya - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: What is Java Server faces ?
This should help: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html -Original Message- From: Madhu Nair [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 3:52 AM What is java server faces technology? Is it similar to Struts ? Will all that I learnt about Struts go waste? Regards, Madhu - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [FRIDAY] Vacancy
Isn't Andrew living/working in Indonesia? I thought he said he hated it there. -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 6:47 AM Its in Indonesia, not India -Original Message- From: Adam Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 6:32 PM Mark, they won't want you, so just forget about it. However after watching the Bollywood movie 'Sometimes Happy, Sometimes Sad', I can understand why impressionable people like you might want to go and work there. ;) On 08/29/2003 11:51 AM Mark Galbreath wrote: Where the heck is this? Is English spoken there? -Original Message- From: Indra Gunawan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 9:27 PM PT. BenihInti Subur Intani (BISI), Charoen Pokphand (CP) group, is one of the Plantation and Plant Research export oriented National company. We are developing a web based application for supporting our growing business. We are now having a vacancy for System DEveloper position for our Pare, Kediri site. We seek candidate with specific criterias as mentioned below: 1. At least Bachelor degree in Computer science with GAP =2.75 2. Ability in JAVA and JSP is a must. 3. Fully understanding in RDBMS concept. 4. ability in Oracle/MySQL is highly valued. Full application include : -CV or Resume -Your Recent Photo or scanned Photo -Copy of your certificates Send your full application to [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or by postal service to Attn : P.Suryanto, EDP PO BOX 1261, Surabaya - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: What is Java Server faces ?
Did you read the part about doing a web search before posting inane questions on mailing lists? -Original Message- From: Andrew Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 7:04 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: What is Java Server faces ? Eh? You sure thats the link Mark? I read through it but it all seems to be some nonsense about questionable hackers , or hackers with questions or asking questions or something like that? - I didnt see anything about JSF or even struts. -Original Message- From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 29 August 2003 17:54 To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: What is Java Server faces ? This should help: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html -Original Message- From: Madhu Nair [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 3:52 AM What is java server faces technology? Is it similar to Struts ? Will all that I learnt about Struts go waste? Regards, Madhu - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] RE: What is Java Server faces ?
yep, and can you write my code for me? -Original Message- From: Jeff Kyser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 9:02 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: What is Java Server faces ? do you still have to do a web search if you don't actually ask an inane question, but instead include the phrase 'I don't have the time to...' LOL -jeff On Friday, August 29, 2003, at 07:41 AM, Mark Galbreath wrote: Did you read the part about doing a web search before posting inane questions on mailing lists? -Original Message- From: Andrew Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 7:04 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: What is Java Server faces ? Eh? You sure thats the link Mark? I read through it but it all seems to be some nonsense about questionable hackers , or hackers with questions or asking questions or something like that? - I didnt see anything about JSF or even struts. -Original Message- From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 29 August 2003 17:54 To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: What is Java Server faces ? This should help: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html -Original Message- From: Madhu Nair [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 3:52 AM What is java server faces technology? Is it similar to Struts ? Will all that I learnt about Struts go waste? Regards, Madhu - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
