Re: A great Shockwave flash movie
On 12/22/2000 at 9:17 AM Angus Mezick wrote: >Sounds like something that should be in a list FAQ. Kind of like the archive address... hmmm It would be nice to have a FAQ ;-) ... or a mailing list page that cited an archive ... I'm ready to post to a FAQ if it shows up on Jakarta (and someone fixed the FAQ-o-matic so you could actually logon; several messages to root pending about this). -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Custom Software ~ Technical Services. -- Tel 716 425-0252; Fax 716 223-2506. -- http://www.husted.com/
Re: A great Shockwave flash movie
Sounds like something that should be in a list FAQ. Kind of like the archive address... hmmm --Angus Michael Westbay wrote: > > Reddin-san wrote: > > > I agree. Just filter for viruses or certain types of attachments. > > Like annoying HTML repeats of what is in the text messages, usually > 2 to 3 times as large (one message was 35 times as large as the > plain text version - lots of " "s for a table). > > But then, if one person sends mail in HTML format, all Outlook users > who reply, even with HTML turned off, send in HTML format. I'd better > stop here before starting a flame war. > > -- > Michael Westbay > Work: Beacon-IT http://www.beacon-it.co.jp/ > Home: http://www.seaple.icc.ne.jp/~westbay > Commentary: http://www.japanesebaseball.com/
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Yep, this should be done somehow. There are obviously a bunch of us writing extra functionality for struts which would probably be useful to others, but is not appearing in the struts source. I suggest we have some kind of per person logon, and that person can control only the files they upload. Some decent categorization and a dependancy list would be needed. Sound like an idea structure to use broadvision, sorry, struts :-) This is not to compete with the struts development, but give a space for useful stuff that we are otherwise posting to the list. In many ways it could be thought of a staging ground for new code before it gets snaffled into the struts source. (BTW, sorry about my 0 byte post everybody, we had firewall problems here yesterday. I didn't even know that either of the messages had made it) Regards Ned >From: Dan Cancro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >What if you don't have a public web or ftp site? >What about archived messages? A lot of attachments are source code for >things that you don't need at the moment, but will sometime later. Will >posters need to keep their attachments and ftp/web sites available > >forever? _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
Re: A great Shockwave flash movie
Reddin-san wrote: > I agree. Just filter for viruses or certain types of attachments. Like annoying HTML repeats of what is in the text messages, usually 2 to 3 times as large (one message was 35 times as large as the plain text version - lots of " "s for a table). But then, if one person sends mail in HTML format, all Outlook users who reply, even with HTML turned off, send in HTML format. I'd better stop here before starting a flame war. -- Michael Westbay Work: Beacon-IT http://www.beacon-it.co.jp/ Home: http://www.seaple.icc.ne.jp/~westbay Commentary: http://www.japanesebaseball.com/
RE: A great Shockwave flash movie
I agree also. There's no harm in non-executable attachments. -Original Message- From: Greg Reddin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 10:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: A great Shockwave flash movie I agree. Just filter for viruses or certain types of attachments. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 11:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: A great Shockwave flash movie What if you don't have a public web or ftp site? What about archived messages? A lot of attachments are source code for things that you don't need at the moment, but will sometime later. Will posters need to keep their attachments and ftp/web sites available forever? -Original Message- From: Hines, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 5:32 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: A great Shockwave flash movie I'm in favor of banning attachments. We went though this on the JSP_INTEREST list. We started getting viruses, etc so attachments were banned and nobody misses them. Files can be hyperlinked from the messages to web sites, ftp sites, etc and downloaded that way. I would think that the attachments are pretty annoying to people that don't have broadband anyway, especially when some people insist on sending large files! -Original Message- From: Geoffrey Simmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 5:47 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: A great Shockwave flash movie > From: Colin Wilson-Salt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > There's probably no reason for a list like this this to allow > attachments. I personally don't care about viruses (and I > won't, until > someone writes an emailable virus that attacks Solaris machines), but > can we consider having the list dissallow attachments? After > all, we all > work on the internet, we can find other ways to get files to > each other. I would find it disappointing if the list were to indiscriminately reject all attachments. Many messages have sample code attached to them, and I find that these are among the most valuable contributions to the list. My employer's mail server, through which I receive the struts list, removes all attachments with the .exe extension, and prevented this particular virus from being transported. This could be done with a few other extensions as well, such as .vbs; and others have suggested, a virus scanner could be run over all attachments before mail is forwarded to the list. At any rate, there are a number of solutions that stop short of banning attachments altogether. Best, Geoff | || ||| || r a z o r f i s h , hamburg geoff simmons [ technologist ] >> tel (49) 40.35 53 77 92 >> fax (49) 40.35 53 77 20 >> http://www.razorfish.de
RE: A great Shockwave flash movie
I agree. Just filter for viruses or certain types of attachments. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 11:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: A great Shockwave flash movie What if you don't have a public web or ftp site? What about archived messages? A lot of attachments are source code for things that you don't need at the moment, but will sometime later. Will posters need to keep their attachments and ftp/web sites available forever? -Original Message- From: Hines, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 5:32 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: A great Shockwave flash movie I'm in favor of banning attachments. We went though this on the JSP_INTEREST list. We started getting viruses, etc so attachments were banned and nobody misses them. Files can be hyperlinked from the messages to web sites, ftp sites, etc and downloaded that way. I would think that the attachments are pretty annoying to people that don't have broadband anyway, especially when some people insist on sending large files! -Original Message- From: Geoffrey Simmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 5:47 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: A great Shockwave flash movie > From: Colin Wilson-Salt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > There's probably no reason for a list like this this to allow > attachments. I personally don't care about viruses (and I > won't, until > someone writes an emailable virus that attacks Solaris machines), but > can we consider having the list dissallow attachments? After > all, we all > work on the internet, we can find other ways to get files to > each other. I would find it disappointing if the list were to indiscriminately reject all attachments. Many messages have sample code attached to them, and I find that these are among the most valuable contributions to the list. My employer's mail server, through which I receive the struts list, removes all attachments with the .exe extension, and prevented this particular virus from being transported. This could be done with a few other extensions as well, such as .vbs; and others have suggested, a virus scanner could be run over all attachments before mail is forwarded to the list. At any rate, there are a number of solutions that stop short of banning attachments altogether. Best, Geoff | || ||| || r a z o r f i s h , hamburg geoff simmons [ technologist ] >> tel (49) 40.35 53 77 92 >> fax (49) 40.35 53 77 20 >> http://www.razorfish.de
RE: A great Shockwave flash movie
What if you don't have a public web or ftp site? What about archived messages? A lot of attachments are source code for things that you don't need at the moment, but will sometime later. Will posters need to keep their attachments and ftp/web sites available forever? -Original Message- From: Hines, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 5:32 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: A great Shockwave flash movie I'm in favor of banning attachments. We went though this on the JSP_INTEREST list. We started getting viruses, etc so attachments were banned and nobody misses them. Files can be hyperlinked from the messages to web sites, ftp sites, etc and downloaded that way. I would think that the attachments are pretty annoying to people that don't have broadband anyway, especially when some people insist on sending large files! -Original Message- From: Geoffrey Simmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 5:47 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: A great Shockwave flash movie > From: Colin Wilson-Salt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > There's probably no reason for a list like this this to allow > attachments. I personally don't care about viruses (and I > won't, until > someone writes an emailable virus that attacks Solaris machines), but > can we consider having the list dissallow attachments? After > all, we all > work on the internet, we can find other ways to get files to > each other. I would find it disappointing if the list were to indiscriminately reject all attachments. Many messages have sample code attached to them, and I find that these are among the most valuable contributions to the list. My employer's mail server, through which I receive the struts list, removes all attachments with the .exe extension, and prevented this particular virus from being transported. This could be done with a few other extensions as well, such as .vbs; and others have suggested, a virus scanner could be run over all attachments before mail is forwarded to the list. At any rate, there are a number of solutions that stop short of banning attachments altogether. Best, Geoff | || ||| || r a z o r f i s h , hamburg geoff simmons [ technologist ] >> tel (49) 40.35 53 77 92 >> fax (49) 40.35 53 77 20 >> http://www.razorfish.de
RE: A great Shockwave flash movie
I'm in favor of banning attachments. We went though this on the JSP_INTEREST list. We started getting viruses, etc so attachments were banned and nobody misses them. Files can be hyperlinked from the messages to web sites, ftp sites, etc and downloaded that way. I would think that the attachments are pretty annoying to people that don't have broadband anyway, especially when some people insist on sending large files! -Original Message- From: Geoffrey Simmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 5:47 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: A great Shockwave flash movie > From: Colin Wilson-Salt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > There's probably no reason for a list like this this to allow > attachments. I personally don't care about viruses (and I > won't, until > someone writes an emailable virus that attacks Solaris machines), but > can we consider having the list dissallow attachments? After > all, we all > work on the internet, we can find other ways to get files to > each other. I would find it disappointing if the list were to indiscriminately reject all attachments. Many messages have sample code attached to them, and I find that these are among the most valuable contributions to the list. My employer's mail server, through which I receive the struts list, removes all attachments with the .exe extension, and prevented this particular virus from being transported. This could be done with a few other extensions as well, such as .vbs; and others have suggested, a virus scanner could be run over all attachments before mail is forwarded to the list. At any rate, there are a number of solutions that stop short of banning attachments altogether. Best, Geoff | || ||| || r a z o r f i s h , hamburg geoff simmons [ technologist ] >> tel (49) 40.35 53 77 92 >> fax (49) 40.35 53 77 20 >> http://www.razorfish.de
RE: A great Shockwave flash movie
> From: Colin Wilson-Salt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > There's probably no reason for a list like this this to allow > attachments. I personally don't care about viruses (and I > won't, until > someone writes an emailable virus that attacks Solaris machines), but > can we consider having the list dissallow attachments? After > all, we all > work on the internet, we can find other ways to get files to > each other. I would find it disappointing if the list were to indiscriminately reject all attachments. Many messages have sample code attached to them, and I find that these are among the most valuable contributions to the list. My employer's mail server, through which I receive the struts list, removes all attachments with the .exe extension, and prevented this particular virus from being transported. This could be done with a few other extensions as well, such as .vbs; and others have suggested, a virus scanner could be run over all attachments before mail is forwarded to the list. At any rate, there are a number of solutions that stop short of banning attachments altogether. Best, Geoff | || ||| || r a z o r f i s h , hamburg geoff simmons [ technologist ] >> tel (49) 40.35 53 77 92 >> fax (49) 40.35 53 77 20 >> http://www.razorfish.de
Re: A great Shockwave flash movie VIRUS WARNING
>Von: John Sisk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Dezember 2000 18:09 >An: struts-list >Betreff: A great Shockwave flash movie > >Check out this new flash movie that I downloaded just now ... It's Great >Bye Well, I don't expect anyone from this list to be so dumb to open the executable attachment, but just to inform you: It contains the... W32.Prolin.Worm virus. It would be nice if the list administrator would filter virus infected material before broadcasting mails. Regards Nikolaus Rumm
Re: A great Shockwave flash movie
And if i want to attach some code Or a html file? - Original Message - From: "Colin Wilson-Salt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 6:25 PM Subject: Re: A great Shockwave flash movie > There's probably no reason for a list like this this to allow > attachments. I personally don't care about viruses (and I won't, until > someone writes an emailable virus that attacks Solaris machines), but > can we consider having the list dissallow attachments? After all, we all > work on the internet, we can find other ways to get files to each other. > > John Sisk wrote: > > > Check out this new flash movie that I downloaded just now ... It's Great > > Bye > > creative.exe > > > > Content-Type: > > > > application/x-msdownload > > Content-Encoding: > > > > base64 > > > > > >
RE: A great Shockwave flash movie
John, I recieved a virus warning from this email. You might want to check you system. ~Bruce -Original Message- From: John Sisk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 9:09 AM To: struts-list Subject: A great Shockwave flash movie Check out this new flash movie that I downloaded just now ... It's Great Bye
Re: A great Shockwave flash movie
There's probably no reason for a list like this this to allow attachments. I personally don't care about viruses (and I won't, until someone writes an emailable virus that attacks Solaris machines), but can we consider having the list dissallow attachments? After all, we all work on the internet, we can find other ways to get files to each other. John Sisk wrote: > Check out this new flash movie that I downloaded just now ... It's Great > Bye > creative.exe > > Content-Type: > > application/x-msdownload > Content-Encoding: > > base64 > >
Re: A great Shockwave flash movie
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Re: A great Shockwave flash movie
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A great Shockwave flash movie
Check out this new flash movie that I downloaded just now ... It's Great Bye creative.exe
Re: A great Shockwave flash movie
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A great Shockwave flash movie
Check out this new flash movie that I downloaded just now ... It's Great Bye creative.exe