Re: A great Shockwave flash movie

2000-12-22 Thread Ted Husted

On 12/22/2000 at 9:17 AM Angus Mezick wrote:
>Sounds like something that should be in a list FAQ.  Kind of like the
archive address... hmmm

It would be nice to have a FAQ ;-) ... or a mailing list page that
cited an archive ... I'm ready to post to a FAQ if it shows up on
Jakarta (and someone fixed the FAQ-o-matic so you could actually logon;
several messages to root pending about this).


-- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA.
-- Custom Software ~ Technical Services.
-- Tel 716 425-0252; Fax 716 223-2506.
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Re: A great Shockwave flash movie

2000-12-22 Thread Angus Mezick

Sounds like something that should be in a list FAQ.  Kind of like the
archive address... hmmm
--Angus

Michael Westbay wrote:
> 
> Reddin-san wrote:
> 
> > I agree.  Just filter for viruses or certain types of attachments.
> 
> Like annoying HTML repeats of what is in the text messages, usually
> 2 to 3 times as large (one message was 35 times as large as the
> plain text version - lots of " "s for a table).
> 
> But then, if one person sends mail in HTML format, all Outlook users
> who reply, even with HTML turned off, send in HTML format.  I'd better
> stop here before starting a flame war.
> 
> --
> Michael Westbay
> Work: Beacon-IT http://www.beacon-it.co.jp/
> Home:   http://www.seaple.icc.ne.jp/~westbay
> Commentary: http://www.japanesebaseball.com/



List web site - was RE: A great Shockwave flash movie

2000-12-22 Thread Ned Seagoon


Yep, this should be done somehow. There are obviously a bunch of us writing 
extra functionality for struts which would probably be useful to others, but 
is not appearing in the struts source.

I suggest we have some kind of per person logon, and that person can control 
only the files they upload. Some decent categorization and a dependancy list 
would be needed. Sound like an idea structure to use broadvision, sorry, 
struts :-)

This is not to compete with the struts development, but give a space for 
useful stuff that we are otherwise posting to the list. In many ways it 
could be thought of a staging ground for new code before it gets snaffled 
into the struts source.

(BTW, sorry about my 0 byte post everybody, we had firewall problems here 
yesterday. I didn't even know that either of the messages had made it)

Regards
Ned

>From: Dan Cancro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>What if you don't have a public web or ftp site?
>What about archived messages?  A lot of attachments are source code for
>things that you don't need at the moment, but will sometime later.  Will
>posters need to keep their attachments and ftp/web sites available 
> >forever?

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Re: A great Shockwave flash movie

2000-12-21 Thread Michael Westbay

Reddin-san wrote:

> I agree.  Just filter for viruses or certain types of attachments.

Like annoying HTML repeats of what is in the text messages, usually
2 to 3 times as large (one message was 35 times as large as the
plain text version - lots of " "s for a table).

But then, if one person sends mail in HTML format, all Outlook users
who reply, even with HTML turned off, send in HTML format.  I'd better
stop here before starting a flame war.

--
Michael Westbay
Work: Beacon-IT http://www.beacon-it.co.jp/
Home:   http://www.seaple.icc.ne.jp/~westbay
Commentary: http://www.japanesebaseball.com/



RE: A great Shockwave flash movie

2000-12-21 Thread Schachter, Michael

I agree also.  There's no harm in non-executable attachments.

-Original Message-
From: Greg Reddin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 10:05 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: A great Shockwave flash movie


I agree.  Just filter for viruses or certain types of attachments.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 11:49 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: A great Shockwave flash movie


What if you don't have a public web or ftp site?
What about archived messages?  A lot of attachments are source code for
things that you don't need at the moment, but will sometime later.  Will
posters need to keep their attachments and ftp/web sites available forever?

-Original Message-
From: Hines, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 5:32 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: A great Shockwave flash movie


I'm in favor of banning attachments. We went though this on the JSP_INTEREST
list. We started getting viruses, etc so attachments were banned and nobody
misses them. Files can be hyperlinked from the messages to web sites, ftp
sites, etc and downloaded that way. I would think that the attachments are
pretty annoying to people that don't have broadband anyway, especially when
some people insist on sending large files!

-Original Message-
From: Geoffrey Simmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 5:47 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: A great Shockwave flash movie


> From: Colin Wilson-Salt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>
> There's probably no reason for a list like this this to allow
> attachments. I personally don't care about viruses (and I
> won't, until
> someone writes an emailable virus that attacks Solaris machines), but
> can we consider having the list dissallow attachments? After
> all, we all
> work on the internet, we can find other ways to get files to
> each other.

I would find it disappointing if the list were to indiscriminately reject
all attachments. Many messages have sample code attached to them, and I find
that these are among the most valuable contributions to the list.

My employer's mail server, through which I receive the struts list, removes
all attachments with the .exe extension, and prevented this particular virus
from being transported. This could be done with a few other extensions as
well, such as .vbs; and others have suggested, a virus scanner could be run
over all attachments before mail is forwarded to the list.

At any rate, there are a number of solutions that stop short of banning
attachments altogether.


Best,
Geoff

| || ||| || r a z o r f i s h , hamburg

geoff simmons
[ technologist ]

>> tel (49) 40.35 53 77 92
>> fax (49) 40.35 53 77 20
>> http://www.razorfish.de



RE: A great Shockwave flash movie

2000-12-21 Thread Greg Reddin

I agree.  Just filter for viruses or certain types of attachments.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 11:49 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: A great Shockwave flash movie


What if you don't have a public web or ftp site?
What about archived messages?  A lot of attachments are source code for
things that you don't need at the moment, but will sometime later.  Will
posters need to keep their attachments and ftp/web sites available forever?

-Original Message-
From: Hines, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 5:32 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: A great Shockwave flash movie


I'm in favor of banning attachments. We went though this on the JSP_INTEREST
list. We started getting viruses, etc so attachments were banned and nobody
misses them. Files can be hyperlinked from the messages to web sites, ftp
sites, etc and downloaded that way. I would think that the attachments are
pretty annoying to people that don't have broadband anyway, especially when
some people insist on sending large files!

-Original Message-
From: Geoffrey Simmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 5:47 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: A great Shockwave flash movie


> From: Colin Wilson-Salt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>
> There's probably no reason for a list like this this to allow
> attachments. I personally don't care about viruses (and I
> won't, until
> someone writes an emailable virus that attacks Solaris machines), but
> can we consider having the list dissallow attachments? After
> all, we all
> work on the internet, we can find other ways to get files to
> each other.

I would find it disappointing if the list were to indiscriminately reject
all attachments. Many messages have sample code attached to them, and I find
that these are among the most valuable contributions to the list.

My employer's mail server, through which I receive the struts list, removes
all attachments with the .exe extension, and prevented this particular virus
from being transported. This could be done with a few other extensions as
well, such as .vbs; and others have suggested, a virus scanner could be run
over all attachments before mail is forwarded to the list.

At any rate, there are a number of solutions that stop short of banning
attachments altogether.


Best,
Geoff

| || ||| || r a z o r f i s h , hamburg

geoff simmons
[ technologist ]

>> tel (49) 40.35 53 77 92
>> fax (49) 40.35 53 77 20
>> http://www.razorfish.de



RE: A great Shockwave flash movie

2000-12-21 Thread Dan Cancro

What if you don't have a public web or ftp site?
What about archived messages?  A lot of attachments are source code for
things that you don't need at the moment, but will sometime later.  Will
posters need to keep their attachments and ftp/web sites available forever?

-Original Message-
From: Hines, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 5:32 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: A great Shockwave flash movie


I'm in favor of banning attachments. We went though this on the JSP_INTEREST
list. We started getting viruses, etc so attachments were banned and nobody
misses them. Files can be hyperlinked from the messages to web sites, ftp
sites, etc and downloaded that way. I would think that the attachments are
pretty annoying to people that don't have broadband anyway, especially when
some people insist on sending large files!

-Original Message-
From: Geoffrey Simmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 5:47 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: A great Shockwave flash movie


> From: Colin Wilson-Salt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> 
> There's probably no reason for a list like this this to allow 
> attachments. I personally don't care about viruses (and I 
> won't, until 
> someone writes an emailable virus that attacks Solaris machines), but 
> can we consider having the list dissallow attachments? After 
> all, we all 
> work on the internet, we can find other ways to get files to 
> each other.

I would find it disappointing if the list were to indiscriminately reject
all attachments. Many messages have sample code attached to them, and I find
that these are among the most valuable contributions to the list.

My employer's mail server, through which I receive the struts list, removes
all attachments with the .exe extension, and prevented this particular virus
from being transported. This could be done with a few other extensions as
well, such as .vbs; and others have suggested, a virus scanner could be run
over all attachments before mail is forwarded to the list.

At any rate, there are a number of solutions that stop short of banning
attachments altogether.


Best,
Geoff

| || ||| || r a z o r f i s h , hamburg

geoff simmons
[ technologist ] 

>> tel (49) 40.35 53 77 92
>> fax (49) 40.35 53 77 20
>> http://www.razorfish.de



RE: A great Shockwave flash movie

2000-12-21 Thread Hines, Bill

I'm in favor of banning attachments. We went though this on the JSP_INTEREST
list. We started getting viruses, etc so attachments were banned and nobody
misses them. Files can be hyperlinked from the messages to web sites, ftp
sites, etc and downloaded that way. I would think that the attachments are
pretty annoying to people that don't have broadband anyway, especially when
some people insist on sending large files!

-Original Message-
From: Geoffrey Simmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 5:47 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: A great Shockwave flash movie


> From: Colin Wilson-Salt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> 
> There's probably no reason for a list like this this to allow 
> attachments. I personally don't care about viruses (and I 
> won't, until 
> someone writes an emailable virus that attacks Solaris machines), but 
> can we consider having the list dissallow attachments? After 
> all, we all 
> work on the internet, we can find other ways to get files to 
> each other.

I would find it disappointing if the list were to indiscriminately reject
all attachments. Many messages have sample code attached to them, and I find
that these are among the most valuable contributions to the list.

My employer's mail server, through which I receive the struts list, removes
all attachments with the .exe extension, and prevented this particular virus
from being transported. This could be done with a few other extensions as
well, such as .vbs; and others have suggested, a virus scanner could be run
over all attachments before mail is forwarded to the list.

At any rate, there are a number of solutions that stop short of banning
attachments altogether.


Best,
Geoff

| || ||| || r a z o r f i s h , hamburg

geoff simmons
[ technologist ] 

>> tel (49) 40.35 53 77 92
>> fax (49) 40.35 53 77 20
>> http://www.razorfish.de



RE: A great Shockwave flash movie

2000-12-19 Thread Geoffrey Simmons

> From: Colin Wilson-Salt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> 
> There's probably no reason for a list like this this to allow 
> attachments. I personally don't care about viruses (and I 
> won't, until 
> someone writes an emailable virus that attacks Solaris machines), but 
> can we consider having the list dissallow attachments? After 
> all, we all 
> work on the internet, we can find other ways to get files to 
> each other.

I would find it disappointing if the list were to indiscriminately reject
all attachments. Many messages have sample code attached to them, and I find
that these are among the most valuable contributions to the list.

My employer's mail server, through which I receive the struts list, removes
all attachments with the .exe extension, and prevented this particular virus
from being transported. This could be done with a few other extensions as
well, such as .vbs; and others have suggested, a virus scanner could be run
over all attachments before mail is forwarded to the list.

At any rate, there are a number of solutions that stop short of banning
attachments altogether.


Best,
Geoff

| || ||| || r a z o r f i s h , hamburg

geoff simmons
[ technologist ] 

>> tel (49) 40.35 53 77 92
>> fax (49) 40.35 53 77 20
>> http://www.razorfish.de



Re: A great Shockwave flash movie VIRUS WARNING

2000-12-19 Thread Nikolaus Rumm

>Von: John Sisk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Gesendet: Dienstag, 19. Dezember 2000 18:09
>An: struts-list
>Betreff: A great Shockwave flash movie
>
>Check out this new flash movie that I downloaded just now ... It's Great
>Bye

Well, I don't expect anyone from this list to be so dumb to open the
executable attachment, but just to inform you: It contains the...

W32.Prolin.Worm

virus. It would be nice if the list administrator would filter virus
infected material before broadcasting mails.

Regards

Nikolaus Rumm




Re: A great Shockwave flash movie

2000-12-19 Thread Johan Compagner

And if i want to attach some code Or a html file?

- Original Message - 
From: "Colin Wilson-Salt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: A great Shockwave flash movie


> There's probably no reason for a list like this this to allow 
> attachments. I personally don't care about viruses (and I won't, until 
> someone writes an emailable virus that attacks Solaris machines), but 
> can we consider having the list dissallow attachments? After all, we all 
> work on the internet, we can find other ways to get files to each other.
> 
> John Sisk wrote:
> 
> > Check out this new flash movie that I downloaded just now ... It's Great
> > Bye
> > creative.exe
> > 
> > Content-Type:
> > 
> > application/x-msdownload
> > Content-Encoding:
> > 
> > base64
> > 
> > 
> 
> 




RE: A great Shockwave flash movie

2000-12-19 Thread Bruce McCleave

John,

I recieved a virus warning from this email.  You might want to check you
system.

~Bruce

-Original Message-
From: John Sisk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 9:09 AM
To: struts-list
Subject: A great Shockwave flash movie



Check out this new flash movie that I downloaded just now ... It's Great
Bye



Re: A great Shockwave flash movie

2000-12-19 Thread Colin Wilson-Salt

There's probably no reason for a list like this this to allow 
attachments. I personally don't care about viruses (and I won't, until 
someone writes an emailable virus that attacks Solaris machines), but 
can we consider having the list dissallow attachments? After all, we all 
work on the internet, we can find other ways to get files to each other.

John Sisk wrote:

> Check out this new flash movie that I downloaded just now ... It's Great
> Bye
> creative.exe
> 
> Content-Type:
> 
> application/x-msdownload
> Content-Encoding:
> 
> base64
> 
> 




Re: A great Shockwave flash movie

2000-12-19 Thread root

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Re: A great Shockwave flash movie

2000-12-19 Thread bram

DUDE your attachment has a virus
see the logging

++
   Network Associates GroupShield Exchange  **

   Virus Alert generated at: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 18:07:51
**



The file creative.exe has been replaced as it contains the W32/ProLin@MM
virus. Please consult your administrator for further help.


Action Taken: The attachment could not be repaired, so the attachment was
quarantined
in the quarantine folder: Quarantine Folder
++



- Original Message -
From: "John Sisk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "struts-list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 6:09 PM
Subject: A great Shockwave flash movie


>
> Check out this new flash movie that I downloaded just now ... It's Great
> Bye
>
>




A great Shockwave flash movie

2000-12-19 Thread John Sisk


Check out this new flash movie that I downloaded just now ... It's Great
Bye

 creative.exe


Re: A great Shockwave flash movie

2000-12-19 Thread root

We are very paranoid, so we run a virus check on all incoming mail.
Our virus-scanner triggered on your message, so chances are that your
machine is infected. The headers from your original message are included
below, along with the output from our virus-scanner.

Note:  A copy of this message has been sent to the original addressee(s)
of your mail, as well as to the systems administrators at STEP Infotek A/S.

Sincerely,
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A great Shockwave flash movie

2000-12-19 Thread John Sisk


Check out this new flash movie that I downloaded just now ... It's Great
Bye

 creative.exe