Framework comparison : Struts or Expresso
Hi Struts Experts, I have formed a table comparing Struts , Barracuda and Expresso Framework Struts Barracuda Expresso Parameter Value Architecture 5 4 5 4 Robustness 5 5 5 5 Scalability amp; Performance 5 5 5 5 Customizability 5 5 3 4 Workflow 3 1 0 5 Maintenance 4 4 4 5 Implementation Timelines 5 4 3 5 Adaptability to Internet Banking 5 5 2 5 Protocol independence 4 2 5 2 Support 4 5 3 5 Current user base 4 5 2 4 Future plans 4 4 3 5 Framework Learning 3 5 2 3 Extra Features 3 4 3 5 Weighted Average 255 195 269 I wud like to get all ur cooments on this and u really accept Expresso ir best at the moment. regds, Gurumurthy R. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy The Best In BOOKS at http://www.bestsellers.indiatimes.com Bid for Air Tickets @ Re.1 on Air Sahara Flights. Just log on to http://airsahara.indiatimes.com and Bid Now !
Re: Framework comparison : Struts or Expresso
Hi Struts Experts, I have formed a table comparing Struts , Barracuda and Expresso Architecture Value - 5 Struts - Barracuda - Epresso 4 - 5 - 4 Robustness value - 5 Struts - Barracuda - Expresso 5 - 5 - 5 Scalability amp; Performance value - 5 Struts - Barracuda - Expresso 5 - 5 -5 Customizability value - 5 Struts - Barracuda - Expresso 5 -- 3 - 4 Workflow value - 3 Struts - Barracuda - Expresso 1 - 0 - 5 Maintenance value - 4 Struts - Barracuda - Expresso 4 -4 - 5 Implementation Timelines Value - 5 Struts - Barracuda - Expresso 4 - 3 - 5 Adaptability to Internet Banking Value - 5 Struts - Barracuda - Expresso 5 - 2- 5 Protocol independence value - 4 Struts - Barracuda - Expresso 2- 5 - 2 Support value - 4 Struts - Barracuda - Expresso 5 - 3 - 5 Current user base value - 4 Struts - Barracuda - Expresso 5 - 2 - 4 Future plans value - 4 Struts - Barracuda - Expresso 4 - 3 - 5 Framework Learning Curve value - 3 Struts - Barracuda - Expresso 5- 2 - 3 Extra Features value - 3 Struts - Barracuda - Expresso 4 -3 -5 Weighted Average Struts - Barracuda - Expresso 255- 195 - 269 I wud like to get all ur cooments on this and u really accept Expresso ir best at the moment. regds, Gurumurthy R. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy The Best In BOOKS at http://www.bestsellers.indiatimes.com Bid for Air Tickets @ Re.1 on Air Sahara Flights. Just log on to http://airsahara.indiatimes.com and Bid Now !
Re: Framework comparison : Struts or Expresso
I think this is rather silly. Read the descriptions of both frameworks (notice that Expresso *uses* Struts), try them both out and then pick one. No one can make this decision for you. David From: resdev [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: resdev[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Framework comparison : Struts or Expresso Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 12:01:37 +0530 Hi Struts Experts, I have formed a table comparing Struts , Barracuda and Expresso Architecture Value - 5 Struts - Barracuda - Epresso 4 - 5 - 4 Robustness value - 5 Struts - Barracuda - Expresso 5 - 5 - 5 Scalability amp; Performance value - 5 Struts - Barracuda - Expresso 5 - 5 -5 Customizability value - 5 Struts - Barracuda - Expresso 5 -- 3 - 4 Workflow value - 3 Struts - Barracuda - Expresso 1 - 0 - 5 Maintenance value - 4 Struts - Barracuda - Expresso 4 -4 - 5 Implementation Timelines Value - 5 Struts - Barracuda - Expresso 4 - 3 - 5 Adaptability to Internet Banking Value - 5 Struts - Barracuda - Expresso 5 - 2- 5 Protocol independence value - 4 Struts - Barracuda - Expresso 2- 5 - 2 Support value - 4 Struts - Barracuda - Expresso 5 - 3 - 5 Current user base value - 4 Struts - Barracuda - Expresso 5 - 2 - 4 Future plans value - 4 Struts - Barracuda - Expresso 4 - 3 - 5 Framework Learning Curve value - 3 Struts - Barracuda - Expresso 5- 2 - 3 Extra Features value - 3 Struts - Barracuda - Expresso 4 -3 -5 Weighted Average Struts - Barracuda - Expresso 255- 195 - 269 I wud like to get all ur cooments on this and u really accept Expresso ir best at the moment. regds, Gurumurthy R. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy The Best In BOOKS at http://www.bestsellers.indiatimes.com Bid for Air Tickets @ Re.1 on Air Sahara Flights. Just log on to http://airsahara.indiatimes.com and Bid Now ! _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Framework comparison : Struts or Expresso
Oh I dont know. We could make the decision for him - but it might not be a good decision depending on his needs... -Original Message- From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 4 April 2003 14:47 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Framework comparison : Struts or Expresso I think this is rather silly. Read the descriptions of both frameworks (notice that Expresso *uses* Struts), try them both out and then pick one. No one can make this decision for you. David From: resdev [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: resdev[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Framework comparison : Struts or Expresso Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 12:01:37 +0530 Hi Struts Experts, I have formed a table comparing Struts , Barracuda and Expresso Architecture Value - 5 Struts - Barracuda - Epresso 4 - 5 - 4 Robustness value - 5 Struts - Barracuda - Expresso 5 - 5 - 5 Scalability amp; Performance value - 5 Struts - Barracuda - Expresso 5 - 5 -5 Customizability value - 5 Struts - Barracuda - Expresso 5 -- 3 - 4 Workflow value - 3 Struts - Barracuda - Expresso 1 - 0 - 5 Maintenance value - 4 Struts - Barracuda - Expresso 4 -4 - 5 Implementation Timelines Value - 5 Struts - Barracuda - Expresso 4 - 3 - 5 Adaptability to Internet Banking Value - 5 Struts - Barracuda - Expresso 5 - 2- 5 Protocol independence value - 4 Struts - Barracuda - Expresso 2- 5 - 2 Support value - 4 Struts - Barracuda - Expresso 5 - 3 - 5 Current user base value - 4 Struts - Barracuda - Expresso 5 - 2 - 4 Future plans value - 4 Struts - Barracuda - Expresso 4 - 3 - 5 Framework Learning Curve value - 3 Struts - Barracuda - Expresso 5- 2 - 3 Extra Features value - 3 Struts - Barracuda - Expresso 4 -3 -5 Weighted Average Struts - Barracuda - Expresso 255- 195 - 269 I wud like to get all ur cooments on this and u really accept Expresso ir best at the moment. regds, Gurumurthy R. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy The Best In BOOKS at http://www.bestsellers.indiatimes.com Bid for Air Tickets @ Re.1 on Air Sahara Flights. Just log on to http://airsahara.indiatimes.com and Bid Now ! _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RE: Framework comparison : Struts or Expresso
Hi, You can tell ur decision but on what basis u have chosen it that might surely help me. regds, Gurumurthy R. Struts Users Mailing List wrote: Oh I dont know. We could make the decision for him - but it might not be a good decision depending on his needs... -Original Message- From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 4 April 2003 14:47 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Framework comparison : Struts or Expresso I think this is rather silly. Read the descriptions of both frameworks (notice that Expresso *uses* Struts), try them both out and then pick one. No one can make this decision for you. David gt;From: resdev gt;Reply-To: resdev gt;To: Struts Users Mailing List gt;Subject: Re: Framework comparison : Struts or Expresso gt;Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 12:01:37 +0530 gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt;Hi Struts Experts, gt; gt; gt;I have formed a table comparing Struts , Barracuda and Expresso gt; gt; gt;Architecture gt; gt;Value - 5 gt; gt;Struts - Barracuda - Epresso gt; gt; gt;4 - 5 - 4 gt; gt; gt; Robustness gt; gt;value - 5 gt; gt;Struts - Barracuda - Expresso gt; gt; gt;5 - 5 - 5 gt; gt; gt; gt;Scalability amp; Performance gt; gt;value - 5 gt; gt; gt; gt;Struts - Barracuda - Expresso gt;5 - 5 -5 gt; gt; gt;Customizability gt; gt;value - 5 gt; gt; gt; gt;Struts - Barracuda - Expresso gt;5 -- 3 - 4 gt; gt; gt;Workflow gt; gt;value - 3 gt; gt; gt; gt;Struts - Barracuda - Expresso gt;1 - 0 - 5 gt; gt; gt;Maintenance gt; gt;value - 4 gt; gt; gt; gt;Struts - Barracuda - Expresso gt;4 - 4 - 5 gt; gt;Implementation Timelines gt; gt;Value - 5 gt; gt;Struts - Barracuda - Expresso gt; gt; gt;4 - 3 - 5 gt; gt; gt;Adaptability to Internet Banking gt; gt;Value - 5 gt; gt;Struts - Barracuda - Expresso gt; gt; gt;5 - 2 - 5 gt; gt; gt; gt;Protocol independence gt; gt;value - 4 gt; gt;Struts - Barracuda - Expresso gt; gt; gt;2 - 5 - 2 gt; gt; gt;Support gt; gt;value - 4 gt; gt;Struts - Barracuda - Expresso gt; gt; gt;5 - 3 - 5 gt; gt; gt;Current user base gt; gt;value - 4 gt; gt;Struts - Barracuda - Expresso gt; gt; gt;5 - 2 - 4 gt; gt; gt;Future plans gt; gt;value - 4 gt; gt;Struts - Barracuda - Expresso gt; gt; gt;4 - 3 - 5 gt; gt; gt;Framework Learning Curve gt; gt;value - 3 gt; gt;Struts - Barracuda - Expresso gt; gt; gt;5 - 2 - 3 gt; gt; gt;Extra Features gt; gt;value - 3 gt; gt;Struts - Barracuda - Expresso gt; gt; gt;4 -3 -5 gt; gt; gt; gt;Weighted Average gt; gt;Struts - Barracuda - Expresso gt; gt; gt;255 - 195 - 269 gt;I wud like to get all ur cooments on this and u really accept Expresso ir gt;best at the moment. gt; gt; gt; gt;regds, gt;Gurumurthy R. gt;Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at gt;http://email.indiatimes.com gt;Buy The Best In BOOKS at http://www.bestsellers.indiatimes.com gt;Bid for Air Tickets @ Re.1 on Air Sahara Flights. Just log on to gt;http://airsahara.indiatimes.com and Bid Now ! _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from Indiatimes at http://email.indiatimes.com Buy The Best In BOOKS at http://www.bestsellers.indiatimes.com Bid for Air Tickets @ Re.1 on Air Sahara Flights. Just log on to http://airsahara.indiatimes.com and Bid Now !
RE: RE: Framework comparison : Struts or Expresso
Well I had to make the decision about this time last year between struts and barracuda. I ended up choosing struts simply because I could understand the basics of it in the time I had to do my evaluation, wheras I found Barracuda a lot more challenging to understand - especially since I was also new to servlet programming coming form using swing (which is kindof ironic given that Barracuda has a highly developed 'event' type model that would be more the sort of thing a swinger is used too!). Now this doesnt mean that struts is better than barracuda. I believe barracuda offers quite a bit that struts doesn't in some respects such as the event model and dom based rendering - although one of the advantages of struts is that while the JSP support is particularly strong - you arent tied to any particluar rendering technology - and I took advantage of this ditching JSP to go with a DOM based rendering methodology myself. And a comprehensive event model might add more complexity than is needed for many apps (though mines getting the stage where I could rather use one!) The impression I got ( still have) was that struts could be bent and twisted more to suit my own diabolical intentions - and figuring that I wasnt at the stage to know those needs fully - decided it was best I kept my options open and went with struts... Struts also has the advantage of having the greatest 'mindshare' - and I find the struts mailing list an invaluable resource that is much more helpful than mailing lists for other techs I use (certainly busier than most!). You really need to see how the frameworks fit in with *your* needs. For example expresso contains struts - so logically it is a superset of the features that struts has - which must be better right? Maybe maybe not! Maybe the extra stuff requires it to impose constraints on how you implement things (I havent used it so I cant offer any facts as to whether thats the case or not) or maybe you dont need the extra features so you would just be deploying deadweight - or maybe it has some features that would be really useful to your application and that would take ages for you to duplicate if you just used struts which would thus make it a better choice... -Original Message- From: resdev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 4 April 2003 14:47 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: RE: Framework comparison : Struts or Expresso Hi, You can tell ur decision but on what basis u have chosen it that might surely help me. regds, Gurumurthy R. Struts Users Mailing List wrote: Oh I dont know. We could make the decision for him - but it might not be a good decision depending on his needs... -Original Message- From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 4 April 2003 14:47 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Framework comparison : Struts or Expresso I think this is rather silly. Read the descriptions of both frameworks (notice that Expresso *uses* Struts), try them both out and then pick one. No one can make this decision for you. David gt;From: resdev gt;Reply-To: resdev gt;To: Struts Users Mailing List gt;Subject: Re: Framework comparison : Struts or Expresso gt;Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 12:01:37 +0530 gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt;Hi Struts Experts, gt; gt; gt;I have formed a table comparing Struts , Barracuda and Expresso gt; gt; gt;Architecture gt; gt;Value - 5 gt; gt;Struts - Barracuda - Epresso gt; gt; gt;4 - 5 - 4 gt; gt; gt; Robustness gt; gt;value - 5 gt; gt;Struts - Barracuda - Expresso gt; gt; gt;5 - 5 - 5 gt; gt; gt; gt;Scalability amp; Performance gt; gt;value - 5 gt; gt; gt; gt;Struts - Barracuda - Expresso gt;5 - 5 -5 gt; gt; gt;Customizability gt; gt;value - 5 gt; gt; gt; gt;Struts - Barracuda - Expresso gt;5 -- 3 - 4 gt; gt; gt;Workflow gt; gt;value - 3 gt; gt; gt; gt;Struts - Barracuda - Expresso gt;1 - 0 - 5 gt; gt; gt;Maintenance gt; gt;value - 4 gt; gt; gt; gt;Struts - Barracuda - Expresso gt;4 - 4 - 5 gt; gt;Implementation Timelines gt; gt;Value - 5 gt; gt;Struts - Barracuda - Expresso gt; gt; gt;4 - 3 - 5 gt; gt; gt;Adaptability to Internet Banking gt; gt;Value - 5 gt; gt;Struts - Barracuda - Expresso gt; gt; gt;5 - 2 - 5 gt; gt; gt; gt;Protocol independence gt; gt;value - 4 gt; gt;Struts - Barracuda - Expresso gt; gt; gt;2 - 5 - 2 gt; gt; gt;Support gt; gt;value - 4 gt; gt;Struts - Barracuda - Expresso gt; gt; gt;5 - 3 - 5 gt; gt; gt;Current user base gt; gt;value - 4 gt; gt;Struts - Barracuda - Expresso gt; gt; gt;5 - 2 - 4 gt; gt; gt;Future plans gt; gt;value - 4 gt; gt;Struts - Barracuda - Expresso gt; gt; gt;4 - 3 - 5 gt; gt; gt;Framework Learning Curve gt; gt;value - 3 gt; gt;Struts - Barracuda - Expresso gt; gt; gt;5 - 2 - 3 gt; gt; gt;Extra Features gt; gt;value - 3 gt; gt;Struts - Barracuda - Expresso gt; gt; gt;4 -3 -5 gt; gt; gt; gt;Weighted Average gt; gt;Struts - Barracuda - Expresso gt; gt; gt;255 - 195 - 269 gt;I wud like to get all ur cooments on this and u really accept Expresso ir gt;best
Re: RE: RE: Framework comparison : Struts or Expresso
Hi Hill, Thank u for ur invaluable response. Im in to development of Internet Banking applications and felt Expresso had extra features than wht struts provides and also it is superset of struts, in which case it shud give me that easy extendability that struts provides, that's wht im gonna check for. in case of Barracuda, i also had the same sentiment with that framework. infact the Push MVC mechanism really impressed me , but i felt that the event handling mechanism must be really desingned well to adapt to changes or else u will have lot of problems later. i have started exploring Expresso and hope that it delivers wht it promises to be. regds, Gurumurthy R. Struts Users Mailing List wrote: Well I had to make the decision about this time last year between struts and barracuda. I ended up choosing struts simply because I could understand the basics of it in the time I had to do my evaluation, wheras I found Barracuda a lot more challenging to understand - especially since I was also new to servlet programming coming form using swing (which is kindof ironic given that Barracuda has a highly developed 'event' type model that would be more the sort of thing a swinger is used too!). Now this doesnt mean that struts is better than barracuda. I believe barracuda offers quite a bit that struts doesn't in some respects such as the event model and dom based rendering - although one of the advantages of struts is that while the JSP support is particularly strong - you arent tied to any particluar rendering technology - and I took advantage of this ditching JSP to go with a DOM based rendering methodology myself. And a comprehensive event model might add more complexity than is needed for many apps (though mines getting the stage where I could rather use one!) The impression I got (amp; still have) was that struts could be bent and twisted more to suit my own diabolical intentions - and figuring that I wasnt at the stage to know those needs fully - decided it was best I kept my options open and went with struts... Struts also has the advantage of having the greatest 'mindshare' - and I find the struts mailing list an invaluable resource that is much more helpful than mailing lists for other techs I use (certainly busier than most!). You really need to see how the frameworks fit in with *your* needs. For example expresso contains struts - so logically it is a superset of the features that struts has - which must be better right? Maybe amp; maybe not! Maybe the extra stuff requires it to impose constraints on how you implement things (I havent used it so I cant offer any facts as to whether thats the case or not) or maybe you dont need the extra features so you would just be deploying deadweight - or maybe it has some features that would be really useful to your application and that would take ages for you to duplicate if you just used struts which would thus make it a better choice... -Original Message- From: resdev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 4 April 2003 14:47 To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: RE: Framework comparison : Struts or Expresso Hi, You can tell ur decision but on what basis u have chosen it that might surely help me. regds, Gurumurthy R. Struts Users Mailing List wrote: Oh I dont know. We could make the decision for him - but it might not be a good decision depending on his needs... -Original Message- From: David Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 4 April 2003 14:47 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Framework comparison : Struts or Expresso I think this is rather silly. Read the descriptions of both frameworks (notice that Expresso *uses* Struts), try them both out and then pick one. No one can make this decision for you. David gt;From: resdev gt;Reply-To: resdev gt;To: Struts Users Mailing List gt;Subject: Re: Framework comparison : Struts or Expresso gt;Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 12:01:37 +0530 gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt;Hi Struts Experts, gt; gt; gt;I have formed a table comparing Struts , Barracuda and Expresso gt; gt; gt;Architecture gt; gt;Value - 5 gt; gt;Struts - Barracuda - Epresso gt; gt; gt;4 - 5 - 4 gt; gt; gt; Robustness gt; gt;value - 5 gt; gt;Struts - Barracuda - Expresso gt; gt; gt;5 - 5 - 5 gt; gt; gt; gt;Scalability amp; Performance gt; gt;value - 5 gt; gt; gt; gt;Struts - Barracuda - Expresso gt;5 - 5 -5 gt; gt; gt;Customizability gt; gt;value - 5 gt; gt; gt; gt;Struts - Barracuda - Expresso gt;5 -- 3 - 4 gt; gt; gt;Workflow gt; gt;value - 3 gt; gt; gt; gt;Struts - Barracuda - Expresso gt;1 - 0 - 5 gt; gt; gt;Maintenance gt; gt;value - 4 gt; gt; gt; gt;Struts - Barracuda - Expresso gt;4 - 4 - 5 gt; gt;Implementation Timelines gt; gt;Value - 5 gt; gt;Struts - Barracuda - Expresso gt; gt; gt;4 - 3 - 5 gt; gt; gt;Adaptability to Internet Banking gt; gt;Value - 5 gt; gt;Struts - Barracuda - Expresso gt; gt; gt;5 - 2 - 5 gt; gt; gt; gt;Protocol independence gt; gt;value - 4 gt; gt;Struts
