Re: [ANN] Struttin' With Struts beta (newbies esp. welcome)
Sorry to take so long to get back to you. Thanks for the kind words. For some reason I missed your email in the stack... comment below... On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 17:49:34 -0600 Dan Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: html:link action=/setupEmployeeFormAdd Employee/html:link I wanted to use the html-el tags and for some reason html-el link doesn't have an action for some reason. Maybe you can post to the list and ask why? The reason I say that is because new users need to grasp the concept that the URL is not actually a page but rather a server command, which is interpretted by the controller to be an Action followed by a View. Also, it is good to keep any references to the action mapping patter out of the View so that if you need to change from /do/* - *.do Good point, what should I use with the html-el tag to enable to define an action though in the html-el:link which is what I'm using for the lessons (I just call it html:link but it's using the html-el.tld). Let me know if you have any suggestions. -- Rick Reumann - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ANN] Struttin' With Struts beta (newbies esp. welcome)
On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 18:51:10 -0600 Dan Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Two more comments: In the second tutorial, you are preparing the employeeForm using the SetUpEmployeeAction. In doing so, you run employeeForm.setDepartment(2); Shouldn't you instead set the default department selection in the form reset() method? I initially I did have that in the reset method, but then I wanted to show how you could use a SetUpAction to set up stuff in your bean if you wanted to. I also was lazy and didn't feel like explaining the reset method:)... you're right though I should have probably just kept it there. In regards to the discussion on using Tokens for the forward mapping keys (such as success and continue) you may also want to note that doing so allows you to have two tokens point to the same definition. In short Tokens.SUCCESS_KEY = success; Tokens.CONTINUE_KEY = success; So you can really play with the means of your Action class without having to bother the Action class. In short the action class shouldn't really care what view is choosen or its meaning, it just deals with the general workflow, such as success failure continue redo sigh, yea, the more I think about it I actually really should just use constants there and I'll include your explanation. I'm pissed I didn't include it from the start. Thanks for the comments and suggestions. I appreciate it. -- Rick Reumann - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ANN] Struttin' With Struts beta (newbies esp. welcome)
On Thu, 13 Mar 2003 16:20:39 -0500 Rick Reumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe you can post to the list and ask why? he he I thought I was replying to a personal e-mail and didn't realize this went to the list... so I guess since it's now on the list... Why doesn't the html-el tag have an action attribute? Is there something that should be used instead? -- Rick Reumann - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ANN] Struttin' With Struts beta (newbies esp. welcome)
* Phil Steitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] [0346 19:46]: Mark Zeltser wrote: Rick, Good job, somehow I can't unzip war files, I am getting corrupt zip file exception. Mark. Use jar -xf war file name War files are jar files, not zips. Your JDK should include the jar utility in its /bin directory. Yeah, but jar files are zip files :) -- Dave Mack: Your stupidity, Allen, is simply not up to par. Allen Gwinn:Yours is. Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ANN] Struttin' With Struts beta (newbies esp. welcome)
Rick, These lessons excellent! Congratulations. I didn't download the .war files, but just walked through the lessons ... very informative without being too involved. I have a feeling your URL will appear quite a lot on this list as a suggested learning resource. Susan Bradeen On 03/11/2003 02:36:38 AM Rick Reumann wrote: I created a web site that walks new Struts users step by step through the development of three VERY simple web applications in three lessons. Each lesson adds a few more features so that they build upon each other yet each stands alone such that if you follow the steps in any lesson you'll have built a very basic application regardless of which lesson you start with. I created these because there seemed to be lacking some more recent walk through Struts tutorials geared toward the very new Struts developer. I think real newbies will find them especially useful, but then again I could be way wrong:) I'm considering the site a beta because I'm sure there will be some mistakes. If anyone sees something I'm doing in a lesson that is way off (or a very bad practice) please let me know. Some of the stuff I know could be done in a more best practice way, but for the sake of trying to also keep the lessons small and simple some ideas weren't included (ie- I didn't use a constants interface for my forward definitions). If anyone wants to contribute, reword, or add anything please let me know. The site is there to help others. I got really lazy in a lot of places and didn't say much about certain things that I would have liked to. Hopefully over time the site will improve. Struttin' with Struts: http://www.reumann.net/do/struts/main -- Rick - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ANN] Struttin' With Struts beta (newbies esp. welcome)
One good practice (for everyone) it to use list backed beans or
collection backed bean.
#1. When you use mutlirow, beans need to iterate (Collection) so your
design has to have it anyway.
#2. You can more easily change the DAO implementation of the DAO
interface, if you only use it as a list/collection. If your DAO proves
not scalable in real production, this is very nice.
#3. You can get SQL data, or XML, or MQ, or CORBA, etc, and just put it
in the list via your DAO.
#4. You can create a prototype by just hard coding a list when you
declare it (List l = {Bush, President}, {Collin, General};) , and not
implement the DAO until later in the project. Or teach Struts, without
going into model. But if you want to go model later, most DAO's return a
list/collection. Did that even make sense?
So consider using list/collection based beans. Ex:
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/basicportal/bP/WEB-INF/src/war/org/apache/scaffoldingLib/base
Note that I use iBatis.com DAO, a good and fast SQL based DAO.
2nd, consider moving up lessons on Tiles, Menu, etc. I found success on
projects when presentation was done up front as a prototype with action
just doing nothing but returning success to a tile. And the action
being called from a struts menu.
3rd consider teaching JSTL for tags.
But I repeat, Excellent!
I hope that we get a lot less newbie questions on the list thanks to
Rick, eveyone, even old hats should take it.
.V
ps: Rick, I will make sure you get a pass to see/hear Ted Husted's live
presentation via WebCast/Webex this Saturday.
pps: I still think RowSet is best practice, but list/collection is a
veery, very good practice and should work for most cases.
Rick Reumann wrote:
On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 06:49:54 -0500
Vic Cekvenich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Excellent!!!
I will take the tutorial.
I am wondering what are you doing for your Data Base, is it JDBC or
something else.
Thank you Vic.
Actually since the lessons are very basic they don't even really touch
the Model layer. They stop with a simple dummy call to service methods
like:
EmployeeDTO insertEmployee( EmployeeDTO employee ) { return employee; }
My goal eventually is to build up to some model layer
approaches on Database connectivity etc, but of course would have to run
that stuff by you gurus :) as I'm still very weak in that area myself.
Tentative lessons I'd like to see:
Lesson IV -
Tiles
internationalization
Lesson V -
Accessing your model layer ( proper use of factories, services, DAOs
etc.)
nested tags
It would be cool if someone wanted to create any of the above lessons
following the same pattern of dealing with inserting/updating an
employee. If each lesson follows the same functionality (with just added
components/features) it makes it much easier for a new person to follow.
Struttin' with Struts:
http://www.reumann.net/do/struts/main
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Re: [ANN] Struttin' With Struts beta (newbies esp. welcome)
Excellent!!! I will take the tutorial. I am wondering what are you doing for your Data Base, is it JDBC or something else. .V Rick Reumann wrote: I created a web site that walks new Struts users step by step through the development of three VERY simple web applications in three lessons. Each lesson adds a few more features so that they build upon each other yet each stands alone such that if you follow the steps in any lesson you'll have built a very basic application regardless of which lesson you start with. I created these because there seemed to be lacking some more recent walk through Struts tutorials geared toward the very new Struts developer. I think real newbies will find them especially useful, but then again I could be way wrong:) I'm considering the site a beta because I'm sure there will be some mistakes. If anyone sees something I'm doing in a lesson that is way off (or a very bad practice) please let me know. Some of the stuff I know could be done in a more best practice way, but for the sake of trying to also keep the lessons small and simple some ideas weren't included (ie- I didn't use a constants interface for my forward definitions). If anyone wants to contribute, reword, or add anything please let me know. The site is there to help others. I got really lazy in a lot of places and didn't say much about certain things that I would have liked to. Hopefully over time the site will improve. Struttin' with Struts: http://www.reumann.net/do/struts/main - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ANN] Struttin' With Struts beta (newbies esp. welcome)
Good work Rick. I'm sure many users (new and not-so-new) will greatly benefit from your efforts. robert -Original Message- From: Rick Reumann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 2:37 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: [ANN] Struttin' With Struts beta (newbies esp. welcome) I created a web site that walks new Struts users step by step through the development of three VERY simple web applications in three lessons. Each lesson adds a few more features so that they build upon each other yet each stands alone such that if you follow the steps in any lesson you'll have built a very basic application regardless of which lesson you start with. I created these because there seemed to be lacking some more recent walk through Struts tutorials geared toward the very new Struts developer. I think real newbies will find them especially useful, but then again I could be way wrong:) I'm considering the site a beta because I'm sure there will be some mistakes. If anyone sees something I'm doing in a lesson that is way off (or a very bad practice) please let me know. Some of the stuff I know could be done in a more best practice way, but for the sake of trying to also keep the lessons small and simple some ideas weren't included (ie- I didn't use a constants interface for my forward definitions). If anyone wants to contribute, reword, or add anything please let me know. The site is there to help others. I got really lazy in a lot of places and didn't say much about certain things that I would have liked to. Hopefully over time the site will improve. Struttin' with Struts: http://www.reumann.net/do/struts/main -- Rick - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ANN] Struttin' With Struts beta (newbies esp. welcome)
On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 06:49:54 -0500
Vic Cekvenich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Excellent!!!
I will take the tutorial.
I am wondering what are you doing for your Data Base, is it JDBC or
something else.
Thank you Vic.
Actually since the lessons are very basic they don't even really touch
the Model layer. They stop with a simple dummy call to service methods
like:
EmployeeDTO insertEmployee( EmployeeDTO employee ) { return employee; }
My goal eventually is to build up to some model layer
approaches on Database connectivity etc, but of course would have to run
that stuff by you gurus :) as I'm still very weak in that area myself.
Tentative lessons I'd like to see:
Lesson IV -
Tiles
internationalization
Lesson V -
Accessing your model layer ( proper use of factories, services, DAOs
etc.)
nested tags
It would be cool if someone wanted to create any of the above lessons
following the same pattern of dealing with inserting/updating an
employee. If each lesson follows the same functionality (with just added
components/features) it makes it much easier for a new person to follow.
Struttin' with Struts:
http://www.reumann.net/do/struts/main
--
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Re: [ANN] Struttin' With Struts beta (newbies esp. welcome)
Rick, Good job, somehow I can't unzip war files, I am getting corrupt zip file exception. Mark. Rick Reumann wrote: I created a web site that walks new Struts users step by step through the development of three VERY simple web applications in three lessons. Each lesson adds a few more features so that they build upon each other yet each stands alone such that if you follow the steps in any lesson you'll have built a very basic application regardless of which lesson you start with. I created these because there seemed to be lacking some more recent walk through Struts tutorials geared toward the very new Struts developer. I think real newbies will find them especially useful, but then again I could be way wrong:) I'm considering the site a beta because I'm sure there will be some mistakes. If anyone sees something I'm doing in a lesson that is way off (or a very bad practice) please let me know. Some of the stuff I know could be done in a more best practice way, but for the sake of trying to also keep the lessons small and simple some ideas weren't included (ie- I didn't use a constants interface for my forward definitions). If anyone wants to contribute, reword, or add anything please let me know. The site is there to help others. I got really lazy in a lot of places and didn't say much about certain things that I would have liked to. Hopefully over time the site will improve. Struttin' with Struts: http://www.reumann.net/do/struts/main -- Rick - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender does not waive confidentiality or privilege, and use is prohibited. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ANN] Struttin' With Struts beta (newbies esp. welcome)
On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 11:53:39 -0500 Mark Zeltser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good job, somehow I can't unzip war files, I am getting corrupt zip file exception. I haven't tried to unzip a war file on Windows. Can you rename it to .zip and see what happens? You should just be able to plop it in your webapps directory and it'll expand for you. Struttin' with Struts: http://www.reumann.net/do/struts/main -- Rick Reumann - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ANN] Struttin' With Struts beta (newbies esp. welcome)
Mark Zeltser wrote: Rick, Good job, somehow I can't unzip war files, I am getting corrupt zip file exception. Mark. Use jar -xf war file name War files are jar files, not zips. Your JDK should include the jar utility in its /bin directory. Rick Reumann wrote: I created a web site that walks new Struts users step by step through the development of three VERY simple web applications in three lessons. Each lesson adds a few more features so that they build upon each other yet each stands alone such that if you follow the steps in any lesson you'll have built a very basic application regardless of which lesson you start with. I created these because there seemed to be lacking some more recent walk through Struts tutorials geared toward the very new Struts developer. I think real newbies will find them especially useful, but then again I could be way wrong:) I'm considering the site a beta because I'm sure there will be some mistakes. If anyone sees something I'm doing in a lesson that is way off (or a very bad practice) please let me know. Some of the stuff I know could be done in a more best practice way, but for the sake of trying to also keep the lessons small and simple some ideas weren't included (ie- I didn't use a constants interface for my forward definitions). If anyone wants to contribute, reword, or add anything please let me know. The site is there to help others. I got really lazy in a lot of places and didn't say much about certain things that I would have liked to. Hopefully over time the site will improve. Struttin' with Struts: http://www.reumann.net/do/struts/main -- Rick - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender does not waive confidentiality or privilege, and use is prohibited. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ANN] Struttin' With Struts beta (newbies esp. welcome)
Thanks, I didn't notice it was in .war.zip format. Mark. Phil Steitz wrote: Mark Zeltser wrote: Rick, Good job, somehow I can't unzip war files, I am getting corrupt zip file exception. Mark. Use jar -xf war file name War files are jar files, not zips. Your JDK should include the jar utility in its /bin directory. Rick Reumann wrote: I created a web site that walks new Struts users step by step through the development of three VERY simple web applications in three lessons. Each lesson adds a few more features so that they build upon each other yet each stands alone such that if you follow the steps in any lesson you'll have built a very basic application regardless of which lesson you start with. I created these because there seemed to be lacking some more recent walk through Struts tutorials geared toward the very new Struts developer. I think real newbies will find them especially useful, but then again I could be way wrong:) I'm considering the site a beta because I'm sure there will be some mistakes. If anyone sees something I'm doing in a lesson that is way off (or a very bad practice) please let me know. Some of the stuff I know could be done in a more best practice way, but for the sake of trying to also keep the lessons small and simple some ideas weren't included (ie- I didn't use a constants interface for my forward definitions). If anyone wants to contribute, reword, or add anything please let me know. The site is there to help others. I got really lazy in a lot of places and didn't say much about certain things that I would have liked to. Hopefully over time the site will improve. Struttin' with Struts: http://www.reumann.net/do/struts/main -- Rick - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender does not waive confidentiality or privilege, and use is prohibited. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender does not waive confidentiality or privilege, and use is prohibited. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ANN] Struttin' With Struts beta (newbies esp. welcome)
Winzip will open all of these and probably more: arc arj b64 bhx cab hqx lzh mim tar tgz gz z jar war ear sar uu uue xxe -- James Mitchell Software Developer/Struts Evangelist http://struts.sourceforge.net/struts-atlanta/ -Original Message- From: Phil Steitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 2:44 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [ANN] Struttin' With Struts beta (newbies esp. welcome) Mark Zeltser wrote: Rick, Good job, somehow I can't unzip war files, I am getting corrupt zip file exception. Mark. Use jar -xf war file name War files are jar files, not zips. Your JDK should include the jar utility in its /bin directory. Rick Reumann wrote: I created a web site that walks new Struts users step by step through the development of three VERY simple web applications in three lessons. Each lesson adds a few more features so that they build upon each other yet each stands alone such that if you follow the steps in any lesson you'll have built a very basic application regardless of which lesson you start with. I created these because there seemed to be lacking some more recent walk through Struts tutorials geared toward the very new Struts developer. I think real newbies will find them especially useful, but then again I could be way wrong:) I'm considering the site a beta because I'm sure there will be some mistakes. If anyone sees something I'm doing in a lesson that is way off (or a very bad practice) please let me know. Some of the stuff I know could be done in a more best practice way, but for the sake of trying to also keep the lessons small and simple some ideas weren't included (ie- I didn't use a constants interface for my forward definitions). If anyone wants to contribute, reword, or add anything please let me know. The site is there to help others. I got really lazy in a lot of places and didn't say much about certain things that I would have liked to. Hopefully over time the site will improve. Struttin' with Struts: http://www.reumann.net/do/struts/main -- Rick - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender does not waive confidentiality or privilege, and use is prohibited. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ANN] Struttin' With Struts beta (newbies esp. welcome)
I've got an idea that may be good for the model layer of your demo. I usually create
implementations of my services that just use a class with one or more static maps for
storing data. Downside, restart the app server and lose all your data. Upside, (1)
it's a fast way to get going, (2) everyone will understand it, and (3) it's a good way
to create a semi-working service for your demo without having to talk about the model
layer, which is really a separate issue from struts. If you decide to write a tutorial
about model technologies, it can be separate from the struts tutorial and just talk
about how to implement your service, decoupling your tutorials like the model should
be decoupled from the presentation.
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On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 06:49:54 -0500
Vic Cekvenich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Excellent!!!
I will take the tutorial.
I am wondering what are you doing for your Data Base, is it JDBC or
something else.
Thank you Vic.
Actually since the lessons are very basic they don't even really touch
the Model layer. They stop with a simple dummy call to service methods
like:
EmployeeDTO insertEmployee( EmployeeDTO employee ) { return
employee; }
My goal eventually is to build up to some model layer
approaches on Database connectivity etc, but of course would
have to run
that stuff by you gurus :) as I'm still very weak in that
area myself.
Tentative lessons I'd like to see:
Lesson IV -
Tiles
internationalization
Lesson V -
Accessing your model layer ( proper use of factories,
services, DAOs
etc.)
nested tags
It would be cool if someone wanted to create any of the above lessons
following the same pattern of dealing with inserting/updating an
employee. If each lesson follows the same functionality (with
just added
components/features) it makes it much easier for a new person
to follow.
Struttin' with Struts:
http://www.reumann.net/do/struts/main
--
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Re: [ANN] Struttin' With Struts beta (newbies esp. welcome)
A good way to tell if win zip will open your archive is to create a shortcut on your desktop to winzip. Try to open the shortcut while dragging the file that you want to open. This works for Jar, War, Zip, Tar, Exe (That where created in winzip) and many other compressed file types. - Original Message - From: James Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 2:50 PM Subject: RE: [ANN] Struttin' With Struts beta (newbies esp. welcome) Winzip will open all of these and probably more: arc arj b64 bhx cab hqx lzh mim tar tgz gz z jar war ear sar uu uue xxe -- James Mitchell Software Developer/Struts Evangelist http://struts.sourceforge.net/struts-atlanta/ -Original Message- From: Phil Steitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 2:44 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [ANN] Struttin' With Struts beta (newbies esp. welcome) Mark Zeltser wrote: Rick, Good job, somehow I can't unzip war files, I am getting corrupt zip file exception. Mark. Use jar -xf war file name War files are jar files, not zips. Your JDK should include the jar utility in its /bin directory. Rick Reumann wrote: I created a web site that walks new Struts users step by step through the development of three VERY simple web applications in three lessons. Each lesson adds a few more features so that they build upon each other yet each stands alone such that if you follow the steps in any lesson you'll have built a very basic application regardless of which lesson you start with. I created these because there seemed to be lacking some more recent walk through Struts tutorials geared toward the very new Struts developer. I think real newbies will find them especially useful, but then again I could be way wrong:) I'm considering the site a beta because I'm sure there will be some mistakes. If anyone sees something I'm doing in a lesson that is way off (or a very bad practice) please let me know. Some of the stuff I know could be done in a more best practice way, but for the sake of trying to also keep the lessons small and simple some ideas weren't included (ie- I didn't use a constants interface for my forward definitions). If anyone wants to contribute, reword, or add anything please let me know. The site is there to help others. I got really lazy in a lot of places and didn't say much about certain things that I would have liked to. Hopefully over time the site will improve. Struttin' with Struts: http://www.reumann.net/do/struts/main -- Rick - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender does not waive confidentiality or privilege, and use is prohibited. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [ANN] Struttin' With Struts beta (newbies esp. welcome)
I just add it to my right click menu. For 2000 and XP, you can do it using 'open with' context menu. With 98 and NT, you can do it in the Registry. I hope saying 'do it in the Registry' doesn't get hung up in our scan mail :D -- James Mitchell Software Developer/Struts Evangelist http://struts.sourceforge.net/struts-atlanta/ -Original Message- From: Daniel Jaffa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 4:12 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [ANN] Struttin' With Struts beta (newbies esp. welcome) A good way to tell if win zip will open your archive is to create a shortcut on your desktop to winzip. Try to open the shortcut while dragging the file that you want to open. This works for Jar, War, Zip, Tar, Exe (That where created in winzip) and many other compressed file types. - Original Message - From: James Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 2:50 PM Subject: RE: [ANN] Struttin' With Struts beta (newbies esp. welcome) Winzip will open all of these and probably more: arc arj b64 bhx cab hqx lzh mim tar tgz gz z jar war ear sar uu uue xxe -- James Mitchell Software Developer/Struts Evangelist http://struts.sourceforge.net/struts-atlanta/ -Original Message- From: Phil Steitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 2:44 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [ANN] Struttin' With Struts beta (newbies esp. welcome) Mark Zeltser wrote: Rick, Good job, somehow I can't unzip war files, I am getting corrupt zip file exception. Mark. Use jar -xf war file name War files are jar files, not zips. Your JDK should include the jar utility in its /bin directory. Rick Reumann wrote: I created a web site that walks new Struts users step by step through the development of three VERY simple web applications in three lessons. Each lesson adds a few more features so that they build upon each other yet each stands alone such that if you follow the steps in any lesson you'll have built a very basic application regardless of which lesson you start with. I created these because there seemed to be lacking some more recent walk through Struts tutorials geared toward the very new Struts developer. I think real newbies will find them especially useful, but then again I could be way wrong:) I'm considering the site a beta because I'm sure there will be some mistakes. If anyone sees something I'm doing in a lesson that is way off (or a very bad practice) please let me know. Some of the stuff I know could be done in a more best practice way, but for the sake of trying to also keep the lessons small and simple some ideas weren't included (ie- I didn't use a constants interface for my forward definitions). If anyone wants to contribute, reword, or add anything please let me know. The site is there to help others. I got really lazy in a lot of places and didn't say much about certain things that I would have liked to. Hopefully over time the site will improve. Struttin' with Struts: http://www.reumann.net/do/struts/main -- Rick - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender does not waive confidentiality or privilege, and use is prohibited. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ANN] Struttin' With Struts beta (newbies esp. welcome)
On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 16:10:47 -0500 Derek Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got an idea that may be good for the model layer of your demo. I usually create implementations of my services that just use a class with one or more static maps for storing data. Actually I used that approach in another demo and had the objects serialized so they persisted. I was too lazy in these lessons to add that extra functionality but probably will do so in a future lesson (or a reworking of the existing ones). -- Rick Reumann - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [ANN] Struttin' With Struts beta (newbies esp. welcome)
These tutorials rock, even for people that have been using struts for a while. Nothing beats reviewing concepts from the ground up over and over. You always pick up something new. That is why I love reading linux tutorials even after 3 years of using it. One suggesion: In the first tutorial you make use of html:link and explain its purpose, but you leave out using the action attribute and substitute it for page instead. I think it might be better for the sake of the tutorial to make it html:link action=/setupEmployeeFormAdd Employee/html:link The reason I say that is because new users need to grasp the concept that the URL is not actually a page but rather a server command, which is interpretted by the controller to be an Action followed by a View. Also, it is good to keep any references to the action mapping patter out of the View so that if you need to change from /do/* - *.do you can do so by only updating your two configuration files (web.xml and struts-config.xml) and not have to call up your JSP developer and tell him that all action patterns need to be changed. the page attribute should really only be used for assets, since all jsp pages should be masked by an action anyway. I hope you find my defense to be clear. Please respond if you have any objections/rebutals. Thank you so very much. I will do my absolute best to try to donate at least some portion of a tutorial once I get a few projects off my plate here. Dan -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Daniel Allen, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mojavelinux.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - umm... i guess this is my signature. 8-} - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Two more comments: In the second tutorial, you are preparing the employeeForm using the SetUpEmployeeAction. In doing so, you run employeeForm.setDepartment(2); Shouldn't you instead set the default department selection in the form reset() method? Naturally the reset() method is the incorrect place to populate the options, but it is a good place to define which one will be selected by default. In regards to the discussion on using Tokens for the forward mapping keys (such as success and continue) you may also want to note that doing so allows you to have two tokens point to the same definition. In short Tokens.SUCCESS_KEY = success; Tokens.CONTINUE_KEY = success; So you can really play with the means of your Action class without having to bother the Action class. In short the action class shouldn't really care what view is choosen or its meaning, it just deals with the general workflow, such as success failure continue redo Dan -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Daniel Allen, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mojavelinux.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - If you still don't like it, that's ok: that's why I'm boss. I simply know better than you do. -- Linus Torvalds - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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thanx a lot for the concept, great work rick. regards, amit malhotra - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
