RE: Application Design Document -- Struts Studio - Independent opinion

2003-08-14 Thread Mike Jasnowski
Here's another Eclipse based Struts diagram tool.  I haven't used it, I
don't know if it just renders the config, or if it is interactive and
enables you to edit the config thru the diagram.

http://www.improve-technologies.com/alpha/struts-config-editor/images/plug-i
n.gif

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I haven't downloaded any test application.
Test application came with the Swing GUI IDE.

I know exactly what the problem is.
The message says
INFO: Starting Coyote HTTP/1.1 on port 8880
That clearly isn't the case.
There is no server running on port 8880.
Port programming is beyond the intellect of Struts Studio staff.

The message is just a message.
The message bears no resemblence to the state of the server.

Another words Struts Studio people tried to cheat by
Putting a message saying server starting when they knew nothing of port
programming
nor did they tried to find out about port programming even though they
have the source code.

All the Strut Studio  people did was download free ware and then cash in on
it.
It takes more than putting a swing GUI  on Free Ware to build an IDE.



>From: "Cameron Hickey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'Struts Users Mailing List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: Application Design Document -- Struts Studio - Independent
>opinion
>Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 19:43:48 +0300
>
>I followed the same procedure you described for struts studio, and was
>quite surprised that the browser opened up, and actually did work.  I
>don't know why you had this problem, but you probably should not be so
>quick to blame it on the test application you downloaded.  There are
>possibly dozens of factors related to whether this sample function will
>work, most of which probably have to do with the custom configuration
>you have on your computer.
>
>For me, more relevant criticism of Struts Studio includes:
>
>   - Scrolling with a wheel mouse in the code view does not work.
>   - There is no simple way to zoom in and out on the schematic
>view.
>   - There are almost no keyboard shortcuts.
>
>This application is by no means a robust enterprise IDE, but it does a
>very nice job generating diagrams of your struts configuration, which
>can be very useful for debugging applications, or explaining to others
>how they work.  It also makes some of the manual modifications to all
>the different properties much simpler and quicker than straight text
>editing.
>
>Cameron
>
>
>
>-Original Message-----
>From: message message [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 7:04 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Application Design Document -- Struts Studio - Independent
>opinion
>
>
>After reading this thread I downloaded Struts Studio.
>Installed it.
>I started up the studio.
>Selected the Struts-config tab.
>Noticed a message  saying  starting Coyote HTTP 1.1 on port 8880.
>
>I then went to the Start game  icon where the message says right click &
>
>select run.
>So I did.
>
>The browser started automatically saying "The page cannot be displayed".
>
>As I have no doubts in my ability to start an IDE.
>It must be the Sh***it waste of time studio which can't run a simple
>sample
>program.
>
>I just wanted to share this information with everybody because this kind
>of
>thing happend alot with java sh***it tools.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "message message" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: RE: Application Design Document
> >Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 18:43:44 +0400
> >
> >
> >WAS 5.0 Struts Diagram -
> >Do you know if that is available as a plug-in for Eclipse 2.1
> >
> >
> >>From: "Syed, Nazeer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Subject: RE: Application Design Document
> >>Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 10:18:59 -0400
> >>
> >>There Struts Diagram in WSAD5.0 Which I ofen use to draw navigation
> >>
> >>Other tools like Struts Studio are also helpful.
> >>
> >>Thanks
> >>Nazeer
> >>
> >>
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: Tarek M. Nabil 

RE: Application Design Document -- Struts Studio - Independent opinion

2003-08-14 Thread Mark Galbreath
and from the looks of it, you are a wizard at configuring your own email
account.

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I haven't downloaded any test application.
Test application came with the Swing GUI IDE.

I know exactly what the problem is.
The message says
INFO: Starting Coyote HTTP/1.1 on port 8880
That clearly isn't the case.
There is no server running on port 8880.
Port programming is beyond the intellect of Struts Studio staff.

The message is just a message.
The message bears no resemblence to the state of the server.

Another words Struts Studio people tried to cheat by
Putting a message saying server starting when they knew nothing of port 
programming
nor did they tried to find out about port programming even though they have
the source code.

All the Strut Studio  people did was download free ware and then cash in on 
it.
It takes more than putting a swing GUI  on Free Ware to build an IDE.



>From: "Cameron Hickey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'Struts Users Mailing List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: Application Design Document -- Struts Studio - Independent
>opinion
>Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 19:43:48 +0300
>
>I followed the same procedure you described for struts studio, and was 
>quite surprised that the browser opened up, and actually did work.  I 
>don't know why you had this problem, but you probably should not be so 
>quick to blame it on the test application you downloaded.  There are 
>possibly dozens of factors related to whether this sample function will 
>work, most of which probably have to do with the custom configuration 
>you have on your computer.
>
>For me, more relevant criticism of Struts Studio includes:
>
>   - Scrolling with a wheel mouse in the code view does not work.
>   - There is no simple way to zoom in and out on the schematic view.
>   - There are almost no keyboard shortcuts.
>
>This application is by no means a robust enterprise IDE, but it does a 
>very nice job generating diagrams of your struts configuration, which 
>can be very useful for debugging applications, or explaining to others 
>how they work.  It also makes some of the manual modifications to all 
>the different properties much simpler and quicker than straight text 
>editing.
>
>Cameron
>
>
>
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>From: message message [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 7:04 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Application Design Document -- Struts Studio - Independent 
>opinion
>
>
>After reading this thread I downloaded Struts Studio. Installed it.
>I started up the studio.
>Selected the Struts-config tab.
>Noticed a message  saying  starting Coyote HTTP 1.1 on port 8880.
>
>I then went to the Start game  icon where the message says right click 
>&
>
>select run.
>So I did.
>
>The browser started automatically saying "The page cannot be 
>displayed".
>
>As I have no doubts in my ability to start an IDE.
>It must be the Sh***it waste of time studio which can't run a simple 
>sample program.
>
>I just wanted to share this information with everybody because this 
>kind of thing happend alot with java sh***it tools.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "message message" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" 
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: RE: Application Design Document
> >Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 18:43:44 +0400
> >
> >
> >WAS 5.0 Struts Diagram -
> >Do you know if that is available as a plug-in for Eclipse 2.1
> >
> >
> >>From: "Syed, Nazeer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" 
> >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Subject: RE: Application Design Document
> >>Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 10:18:59 -0400
> >>
> >>There Struts Diagram in WSAD5.0 Which I ofen use to draw navigation
> >>
> >>Other tools like Struts Studio are also helpful.
> >>
> >>Thanks
> >>Nazeer
> >>
> >>
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: Tarek M. Nabil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:07 AM
> >>To: Struts (E-mail)
> >>Subject: Application Design Document
> &g

Re: Application Design Document -- Struts Studio - Independent opinion

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RE: Application Design Document -- Struts Studio - Independent opinion

2003-08-14 Thread message message
After reading this thread I downloaded Struts Studio.
Installed it.
I started up the studio.
Selected the Struts-config tab.
Noticed a message  saying  starting Coyote HTTP 1.1 on port 8880.
I then went to the Start game  icon where the message says right click & 
select run.
So I did.

The browser started automatically saying "The page cannot be displayed".

As I have no doubts in my ability to start an IDE.
It must be the Sh***it waste of time studio which can't run a simple sample 
program.

I just wanted to share this information with everybody because this kind of
thing happend alot with java sh***it tools.












From: "message message" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Application Design Document
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 18:43:44 +0400
WAS 5.0 Struts Diagram -
Do you know if that is available as a plug-in for Eclipse 2.1

From: "Syed, Nazeer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Application Design Document
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 10:18:59 -0400
There Struts Diagram in WSAD5.0 Which I ofen use to draw navigation

Other tools like Struts Studio are also helpful.

Thanks
Nazeer
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From: Tarek M. Nabil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:07 AM
To: Struts (E-mail)
Subject: Application Design Document
Hi everyone,

I just finished developing a web application using Struts and our client
is asking us to provide a design document for the application.
I was wondering, if among the struts community, there's a certain
template or even ideas for how such a document should look like and what
it should include.
I was especially thinking of a diagram that illustrates the actions and
their relationship with the JSP's and the Model. Does such diagram
exist? And if yes, are there tools to generate it?
By the way, if there's nothing standard, then I would certainly
appreciate any individual experiences.
Thanks,
Tarek M. Nabil
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RE: Application Design Document -- Struts Studio - Independent opinion

2003-08-14 Thread Rohit Aeron

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Re: Application Design Document -- Struts Studio - Independent opinion

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RE: Application Design Document -- Struts Studio - Independent opinion

2003-08-06 Thread Mounagurusamy, Jayakumar (HAL)
Any one can provide the url that I can download this struts studio?
Jay

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I followed the same procedure you described for struts studio, and was
quite surprised that the browser opened up, and actually did work.  I
don't know why you had this problem, but you probably should not be so
quick to blame it on the test application you downloaded.  There are
possibly dozens of factors related to whether this sample function will
work, most of which probably have to do with the custom configuration
you have on your computer.  

For me, more relevant criticism of Struts Studio includes:

- Scrolling with a wheel mouse in the code view does not work.
- There is no simple way to zoom in and out on the schematic
view.
- There are almost no keyboard shortcuts.

This application is by no means a robust enterprise IDE, but it does a
very nice job generating diagrams of your struts configuration, which
can be very useful for debugging applications, or explaining to others
how they work.  It also makes some of the manual modifications to all
the different properties much simpler and quicker than straight text
editing.

Cameron



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After reading this thread I downloaded Struts Studio.
Installed it.
I started up the studio.
Selected the Struts-config tab.
Noticed a message  saying  starting Coyote HTTP 1.1 on port 8880.

I then went to the Start game  icon where the message says right click &

select run.
So I did.

The browser started automatically saying "The page cannot be displayed".

As I have no doubts in my ability to start an IDE.
It must be the Sh***it waste of time studio which can't run a simple
sample 
program.

I just wanted to share this information with everybody because this kind
of
thing happend alot with java sh***it tools.













>From: "message message" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Application Design Document
>Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 18:43:44 +0400
>
>
>WAS 5.0 Struts Diagram -
>Do you know if that is available as a plug-in for Eclipse 2.1
>
>
>>From: "Syed, Nazeer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: RE: Application Design Document
>>Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 10:18:59 -0400
>>
>>There Struts Diagram in WSAD5.0 Which I ofen use to draw navigation
>>
>>Other tools like Struts Studio are also helpful.
>>
>>Thanks
>>Nazeer
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Tarek M. Nabil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:07 AM
>>To: Struts (E-mail)
>>Subject: Application Design Document
>>
>>Hi everyone,
>>
>>I just finished developing a web application using Struts and our
client
>>is asking us to provide a design document for the application.
>>
>>I was wondering, if among the struts community, there's a certain
>>template or even ideas for how such a document should look like and
what
>>it should include.
>>
>>I was especially thinking of a diagram that illustrates the actions
and
>>their relationship with the JSP's and the Model. Does such diagram
>>exist? And if yes, are there tools to generate it?
>>
>>By the way, if there's nothing standard, then I would certainly
>>appreciate any individual experiences.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Tarek M. Nabil
>>
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RE: Application Design Document -- Struts Studio - Independent opinion

2003-08-06 Thread message message
The diagram you have pointed is generated from the struts-config.xml file.
To edit the Action servlet (shown as .do ) you can point and click.
You can also point & click for JSPs & html.
Although the diagram doesn't show the form-beans.

From: "Mike Jasnowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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opinion
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 14:01:09 -0400

Here's another Eclipse based Struts diagram tool.  I haven't used it, I
don't know if it just renders the config, or if it is interactive and
enables you to edit the config thru the diagram.
http://www.improve-technologies.com/alpha/struts-config-editor/images/plug-i
n.gif
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I haven't downloaded any test application.
Test application came with the Swing GUI IDE.
I know exactly what the problem is.
The message says
INFO: Starting Coyote HTTP/1.1 on port 8880
That clearly isn't the case.
There is no server running on port 8880.
Port programming is beyond the intellect of Struts Studio staff.
The message is just a message.
The message bears no resemblence to the state of the server.
Another words Struts Studio people tried to cheat by
Putting a message saying server starting when they knew nothing of port
programming
nor did they tried to find out about port programming even though they
have the source code.
All the Strut Studio  people did was download free ware and then cash in on
it.
It takes more than putting a swing GUI  on Free Ware to build an IDE.


>From: "Cameron Hickey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'Struts Users Mailing List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: Application Design Document -- Struts Studio - Independent
>opinion
>Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 19:43:48 +0300
>
>I followed the same procedure you described for struts studio, and was
>quite surprised that the browser opened up, and actually did work.  I
>don't know why you had this problem, but you probably should not be so
>quick to blame it on the test application you downloaded.  There are
>possibly dozens of factors related to whether this sample function will
>work, most of which probably have to do with the custom configuration
>you have on your computer.
>
>For me, more relevant criticism of Struts Studio includes:
>
>- Scrolling with a wheel mouse in the code view does not work.
>- There is no simple way to zoom in and out on the schematic
>view.
>- There are almost no keyboard shortcuts.
>
>This application is by no means a robust enterprise IDE, but it does a
>very nice job generating diagrams of your struts configuration, which
>can be very useful for debugging applications, or explaining to others
>how they work.  It also makes some of the manual modifications to all
>the different properties much simpler and quicker than straight text
>editing.
>
>Cameron
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: message message [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 7:04 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Application Design Document -- Struts Studio - Independent
>opinion
>
>
>After reading this thread I downloaded Struts Studio.
>Installed it.
>I started up the studio.
>Selected the Struts-config tab.
>Noticed a message  saying  starting Coyote HTTP 1.1 on port 8880.
>
>I then went to the Start game  icon where the message says right click &
>
>select run.
>So I did.
>
>The browser started automatically saying "The page cannot be displayed".
>
>As I have no doubts in my ability to start an IDE.
>It must be the Sh***it waste of time studio which can't run a simple
>sample
>program.
>
>I just wanted to share this information with everybody because this kind
>of
>thing happend alot with java sh***it tools.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "message message" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: RE: Application Design Document
> >Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 18:43:44 +0400
> >
> >
> >WAS 5.0 Struts Diagram -
> >Do you know if that is available as a plug-in for Eclipse 2.1
> >
> >
> >>From: "Syed, Nazeer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Reply-To: "Struts Users

Re: Application Design Document -- Struts Studio - Independent opinion

2003-08-06 Thread Sergey Smirnov
http://www.StrutsStudio.com

"Mounagurusamy, Jayakumar (HAL)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
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> Any one can provide the url that I can download this struts studio?
> Jay
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RE: Application Design Document -- Struts Studio - Independent opinion

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Re: Application Design Document -- Struts Studio - Independent opinion

2003-08-06 Thread Sergey Smirnov
> Port programming is beyond the intellect of Struts Studio staff.
>
What is your criteria of intellect? Is it ability to use anonymous account
and anonymous name for all your posts?
Your messages boil with anger. They do not look like "Independent Opinion"
you mentioned in the Subject. I never meet guy who were so angry running
freeware application on independent base :-)

P.S. your words about port programming and cheating were funny.

>
> It takes more than putting a swing GUI  on Free Ware to build an IDE.
>
>
 It sounds like a clue. Somebody really dislikes that Exadel Struts Studio
Community Edition is a freeware.







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RE: Application Design Document -- Struts Studio - Independent opinion

2003-08-06 Thread message message


I haven't downloaded any test application.
Test application came with the Swing GUI IDE.
I know exactly what the problem is.
The message says
INFO: Starting Coyote HTTP/1.1 on port 8880
That clearly isn't the case.
There is no server running on port 8880.
Port programming is beyond the intellect of Struts Studio staff.
The message is just a message.
The message bears no resemblence to the state of the server.
Another words Struts Studio people tried to cheat by
Putting a message saying server starting when they knew nothing of port 
programming
nor did they tried to find out about port programming even though they
have the source code.

All the Strut Studio  people did was download free ware and then cash in on 
it.
It takes more than putting a swing GUI  on Free Ware to build an IDE.



From: "Cameron Hickey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Struts Users Mailing List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Application Design Document -- Struts Studio - Independent 
opinion
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 19:43:48 +0300

I followed the same procedure you described for struts studio, and was
quite surprised that the browser opened up, and actually did work.  I
don't know why you had this problem, but you probably should not be so
quick to blame it on the test application you downloaded.  There are
possibly dozens of factors related to whether this sample function will
work, most of which probably have to do with the custom configuration
you have on your computer.
For me, more relevant criticism of Struts Studio includes:

- Scrolling with a wheel mouse in the code view does not work.
- There is no simple way to zoom in and out on the schematic
view.
- There are almost no keyboard shortcuts.
This application is by no means a robust enterprise IDE, but it does a
very nice job generating diagrams of your struts configuration, which
can be very useful for debugging applications, or explaining to others
how they work.  It also makes some of the manual modifications to all
the different properties much simpler and quicker than straight text
editing.
Cameron



-Original Message-
From: message message [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 7:04 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Application Design Document -- Struts Studio - Independent
opinion
After reading this thread I downloaded Struts Studio.
Installed it.
I started up the studio.
Selected the Struts-config tab.
Noticed a message  saying  starting Coyote HTTP 1.1 on port 8880.
I then went to the Start game  icon where the message says right click &

select run.
So I did.
The browser started automatically saying "The page cannot be displayed".

As I have no doubts in my ability to start an IDE.
It must be the Sh***it waste of time studio which can't run a simple
sample
program.
I just wanted to share this information with everybody because this kind
of
thing happend alot with java sh***it tools.












>From: "message message" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Application Design Document
>Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 18:43:44 +0400
>
>
>WAS 5.0 Struts Diagram -
>Do you know if that is available as a plug-in for Eclipse 2.1
>
>
>>From: "Syed, Nazeer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: RE: Application Design Document
>>Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 10:18:59 -0400
>>
>>There Struts Diagram in WSAD5.0 Which I ofen use to draw navigation
>>
>>Other tools like Struts Studio are also helpful.
>>
>>Thanks
>>Nazeer
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Tarek M. Nabil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:07 AM
>>To: Struts (E-mail)
>>Subject: Application Design Document
>>
>>Hi everyone,
>>
>>I just finished developing a web application using Struts and our
client
>>is asking us to provide a design document for the application.
>>
>>I was wondering, if among the struts community, there's a certain
>>template or even ideas for how such a document should look like and
what
>>it should include.
>>
>>I was especially thinking of a diagram that illustrates the actions
and
>>their relationship with the JSP's and the Model. Does such diagram
>>exist? And if yes, are there tools to generate it?
>>
>>By the way, if there's nothing standard, then I would certainly
>>appreciate any individual experiences.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Tarek M. Nabil
>

Re: Application Design Document -- Struts Studio - Independent opinion

2003-08-06 Thread Kwok Peng Tuck
http://jakarta.apache.org

Check out the link about mailling list.

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Hi

What should I do.

I would like to subscribe to struts mailing list.



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RE: Application Design Document -- Struts Studio - Independent opinion

2003-08-05 Thread Cameron Hickey
I followed the same procedure you described for struts studio, and was
quite surprised that the browser opened up, and actually did work.  I
don't know why you had this problem, but you probably should not be so
quick to blame it on the test application you downloaded.  There are
possibly dozens of factors related to whether this sample function will
work, most of which probably have to do with the custom configuration
you have on your computer.  

For me, more relevant criticism of Struts Studio includes:

- Scrolling with a wheel mouse in the code view does not work.
- There is no simple way to zoom in and out on the schematic
view.
- There are almost no keyboard shortcuts.

This application is by no means a robust enterprise IDE, but it does a
very nice job generating diagrams of your struts configuration, which
can be very useful for debugging applications, or explaining to others
how they work.  It also makes some of the manual modifications to all
the different properties much simpler and quicker than straight text
editing.

Cameron



-Original Message-
From: message message [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 7:04 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Application Design Document -- Struts Studio - Independent
opinion


After reading this thread I downloaded Struts Studio.
Installed it.
I started up the studio.
Selected the Struts-config tab.
Noticed a message  saying  starting Coyote HTTP 1.1 on port 8880.

I then went to the Start game  icon where the message says right click &

select run.
So I did.

The browser started automatically saying "The page cannot be displayed".

As I have no doubts in my ability to start an IDE.
It must be the Sh***it waste of time studio which can't run a simple
sample 
program.

I just wanted to share this information with everybody because this kind
of
thing happend alot with java sh***it tools.













>From: "message message" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Application Design Document
>Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 18:43:44 +0400
>
>
>WAS 5.0 Struts Diagram -
>Do you know if that is available as a plug-in for Eclipse 2.1
>
>
>>From: "Syed, Nazeer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: RE: Application Design Document
>>Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2003 10:18:59 -0400
>>
>>There Struts Diagram in WSAD5.0 Which I ofen use to draw navigation
>>
>>Other tools like Struts Studio are also helpful.
>>
>>Thanks
>>Nazeer
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Tarek M. Nabil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:07 AM
>>To: Struts (E-mail)
>>Subject: Application Design Document
>>
>>Hi everyone,
>>
>>I just finished developing a web application using Struts and our
client
>>is asking us to provide a design document for the application.
>>
>>I was wondering, if among the struts community, there's a certain
>>template or even ideas for how such a document should look like and
what
>>it should include.
>>
>>I was especially thinking of a diagram that illustrates the actions
and
>>their relationship with the JSP's and the Model. Does such diagram
>>exist? And if yes, are there tools to generate it?
>>
>>By the way, if there's nothing standard, then I would certainly
>>appreciate any individual experiences.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Tarek M. Nabil
>>
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