RE: Estimating Projects with Struts

2001-03-27 Thread Kyle Robinson

We are using:

JDK 1.3
Struts 1.0b1
Tomcat 3.2.1
Apache 1.3.19
Kawa 5.0 (Pro Edition)
Win2000
Oracle 8.1.6 (Stored Procedure calls from JDBC)

-Original Message-
From: malcolm davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 22:39
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Estimating Projects with Struts


Hello Kyle,

What kind of development envior. are you using?


   -Original Message-
   From: Kyle Robinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 5:09 PM
   To: Struts (E-mail)
   Subject: Estimating Projects with Struts
   
   
   We have a number of projects, big and small starting up that 
   will be using
   Struts as a framework.  Our main concern with this is how to 
   best estimate
   with it.  Does anyone have any experience with estimating with 
   Struts?  For
   example, how long it takes to do the following:
   
   1. A basic screen (editing, saving to a db, etc.)
   2. A medium screen (same as above but maybe with a parent, child
   relationship)
   3. A complex screen (same as above but maybe some special 
   naivgation, extra
   controls)
   
   This may sound broad but any help would be appreciated...
   
   Thanks.
   
   Kyle Robinson
   Systems Consultant
   Pangaea Systems Inc.
   (250) 360-0111
   



Re: Estimating Projects with Struts

2001-03-27 Thread Maya Muchnik

It is depending on how much your team are familiar with Struts. If you
can explain or draw a good picture for page developers how to use the
Struts tags, then to develop small screen - 1/2 day (from a scratch),
big one - 1 week. Then your java developers need to make the Action and
Form classes for each form (until we do not have a general purpose
Action and Form). It can take 2 months, depending how big is your team.
Also, installation, bugs fixes, testing on Tomcat-Apache can take 1
month. It is minimum from my point of view.

By the way, what is Kawa - IDE? Can you email its link?

Maya

Kyle Robinson wrote:

 We are using:

 JDK 1.3
 Struts 1.0b1
 Tomcat 3.2.1
 Apache 1.3.19
 Kawa 5.0 (Pro Edition)
 Win2000
 Oracle 8.1.6 (Stored Procedure calls from JDBC)

 -Original Message-
 From: malcolm davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 22:39
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Estimating Projects with Struts

 Hello Kyle,

 What kind of development envior. are you using?

-Original Message-
From: Kyle Robinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 5:09 PM
To: Struts (E-mail)
Subject: Estimating Projects with Struts
   
   
We have a number of projects, big and small starting up that
will be using
Struts as a framework.  Our main concern with this is how to
best estimate
with it.  Does anyone have any experience with estimating with
Struts?  For
example, how long it takes to do the following:
   
1. A basic screen (editing, saving to a db, etc.)
2. A medium screen (same as above but maybe with a parent, child
relationship)
3. A complex screen (same as above but maybe some special
naivgation, extra
controls)
   
This may sound broad but any help would be appreciated...
   
Thanks.
   
Kyle Robinson
Systems Consultant
Pangaea Systems Inc.
(250) 360-0111
   




RE: Estimating Projects with Struts

2001-03-27 Thread Kyle Robinson

Allaire's Kawa 5.0

http://www.allaire.com/products/kawa/index.cfm

-Original Message-
From: Maya Muchnik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 09:25
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Estimating Projects with Struts


It is depending on how much your team are familiar with Struts. If you
can explain or draw a good picture for page developers how to use the
Struts tags, then to develop small screen - 1/2 day (from a scratch),
big one - 1 week. Then your java developers need to make the Action and
Form classes for each form (until we do not have a general purpose
Action and Form). It can take 2 months, depending how big is your team.
Also, installation, bugs fixes, testing on Tomcat-Apache can take 1
month. It is minimum from my point of view.

By the way, what is Kawa - IDE? Can you email its link?

Maya

Kyle Robinson wrote:

 We are using:

 JDK 1.3
 Struts 1.0b1
 Tomcat 3.2.1
 Apache 1.3.19
 Kawa 5.0 (Pro Edition)
 Win2000
 Oracle 8.1.6 (Stored Procedure calls from JDBC)

 -Original Message-
 From: malcolm davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 22:39
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Estimating Projects with Struts

 Hello Kyle,

 What kind of development envior. are you using?

-Original Message-
From: Kyle Robinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 5:09 PM
To: Struts (E-mail)
Subject: Estimating Projects with Struts
   
   
We have a number of projects, big and small starting up that
will be using
Struts as a framework.  Our main concern with this is how to
best estimate
with it.  Does anyone have any experience with estimating with
Struts?  For
example, how long it takes to do the following:
   
1. A basic screen (editing, saving to a db, etc.)
2. A medium screen (same as above but maybe with a parent, child
relationship)
3. A complex screen (same as above but maybe some special
naivgation, extra
controls)
   
This may sound broad but any help would be appreciated...
   
Thanks.
   
Kyle Robinson
Systems Consultant
Pangaea Systems Inc.
(250) 360-0111
   



RE: Estimating Projects with Struts

2001-03-26 Thread malcolm davis

Hello Kyle,

What kind of development envior. are you using?


   -Original Message-
   From: Kyle Robinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 5:09 PM
   To: Struts (E-mail)
   Subject: Estimating Projects with Struts
   
   
   We have a number of projects, big and small starting up that 
   will be using
   Struts as a framework.  Our main concern with this is how to 
   best estimate
   with it.  Does anyone have any experience with estimating with 
   Struts?  For
   example, how long it takes to do the following:
   
   1. A basic screen (editing, saving to a db, etc.)
   2. A medium screen (same as above but maybe with a parent, child
   relationship)
   3. A complex screen (same as above but maybe some special 
   naivgation, extra
   controls)
   
   This may sound broad but any help would be appreciated...
   
   Thanks.
   
   Kyle Robinson
   Systems Consultant
   Pangaea Systems Inc.
   (250) 360-0111