RE: General Struts Question

[Galbreath, Mark]

STFW, dude.  Don't expect us to do your homework for you.

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Does any know of any good books on struts that are available at the 
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RE: General Struts Question

[Darren Hill]

Wait to October ... and get Chuck Cavaness' "Programming Jakarta Struts"
Good stuff.

BTW ... do you coach the Toronto Maple Leafs.

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RE: General Struts Question

[Pat Quinn]

Cheers Darren


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>Wait to October ... and get Chuck Cavaness' "Programming Jakarta Struts"
>Good stuff.
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>BTW ... do you coach the Toronto Maple Leafs.
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RE: General Struts Question

[Jim Young]

No I doubt he is the Coach/GM of the Leafs or he would have traded Struts 
for Smalltalk 80.

But, since he is not the coach I am sure he checked out the resources page

http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/resources/index.html

Jim

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>Wait to October ... and get Chuck Cavaness' "Programming Jakarta Struts"
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RE: General Struts Question

[jsadove]

Really! You wonder if these people have jobs. Let's hope not.




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STFW, dude.  Don't expect us to do your homework for you.

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RE: General Struts Question

[Pat Quinn]

i'm a first year uni student actually and i've only been working with java 
for six weeks actually


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RE: General Struts Question

[Pat Quinn]

Cheers man… its nice to know there are some decent people out there.

I have ordered Mastering Jakarta Struts by James Goodwill but its taking 
forever to go into dispatch.

Anyway thanks again.



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>Hi, Pat, and welcome to the crappy Struts mailing list.  [sigh]
>
>A lot of people have said good things about the preview chapters of Chuck's
>book--freely available on theserverside.com:
>
>http://www.theserverside.com/resources/strutsreview.jsp
>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/asin/0596003285/
>
>There's also this one, which i know nothing about:
>
>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/asin/0471213020/
>
>I'll probably wait for this one, though:
>
>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1930110502/
>
>It's by Ted Husted et. al.  See Ted's great site for Struts info/best
>practices at:
>
>http://www.husted.com/struts/
>
>Finally, if you haven't already, do check out the Struts Resources page:
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>http://jakarta.apache.org/struts/resources/
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>Tons of great info there.
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>Hope this helps.
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>chris
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RE: General Struts Question

[Galbreath, Mark]

That does not mean you can't (at least) go to amazon.com and search for
books on "Java Struts."  You were smart enough to subscribe to this list,
after all.

http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html


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i'm a first year uni student actually and i've only been working with java 
for six weeks actually


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RE: General Struts Question

[Pat Quinn]

Ok Mark i just read that link and i hold my hands up you got me... time to 
do some research for myself... sorry


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>That does not mean you can't (at least) go to amazon.com and search for
>books on "Java Struts."  You were smart enough to subscribe to this list,
>after all.
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>http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
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>i'm a first year uni student actually and i've only been working with java
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RE: General Struts Question

[Tiago Nodari]

 there should be an initial email stating where there are 
tutorials, books, release date :), and etc,
because there will always ask questions that takes a few seconds on the 
main website to find the answer :)

 at least I havent seen anyone ask where they can download struts :)


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>i'm a first year uni student actually and i've only been working with java
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Re: General Struts Question

[John Owen]

There should be a "Search Archive" link on the same page as the "Subscribe"
link.

John
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> Ok Mark i just read that link and i hold my hands up you got me... time to
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RE: General Struts Question

[Galbreath, Mark]

No, but does anybody know when the final 1.1 release will be?

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 there should be an initial email stating where there are 
tutorials, books, release date :), and etc,
because there will always ask questions that takes a few seconds on the 
main website to find the answer :)

 at least I havent seen anyone ask where they can download struts :)


At 03:03 PM 9/11/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>That does not mean you can't (at least) go to amazon.com and search for
>books on "Java Struts."  You were smart enough to subscribe to this list,
>after all.
>
>http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
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>
>i'm a first year uni student actually and i've only been working with java
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RE: General Struts Question

[Galbreath, Mark]

Education is a life-long process and requires work!  :-)

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Ok Mark i just read that link and i hold my hands up you got me... time to 
do some research for myself... sorry


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>
>That does not mean you can't (at least) go to amazon.com and search for
>books on "Java Struts."  You were smart enough to subscribe to this list,
>after all.
>
>http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
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>i'm a first year uni student actually and i've only been working with java
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> >
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RE: General Struts Question

[Darren Hill]

  


-Original Message-
From: John Owen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: September 11, 2002 3:21 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: General Struts Question


There should be a "Search Archive" link on the same page as the "Subscribe"
link.

John
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Subject: RE: General Struts Question


> Ok Mark i just read that link and i hold my hands up you got me... time to
> do some research for myself... sorry
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RE: General Struts Question

[Chappell, Simon P]

That is soo true! I graduated from Plymouth University (England) in 1990 and I 
swear that I learn more in any given year than I ever did during my entire University 
degree!

>-Original Message-
>From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 2:24 PM
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>Subject: RE: General Struts Question
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>
>Education is a life-long process and requires work!  :-)
>
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>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
>Ok Mark i just read that link and i hold my hands up you got 
>me... time to 
>do some research for myself... sorry
>
>
>>From: "Galbreath, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: RE: General Struts Question
>>Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:03:54 -0400
>>
>>That does not mean you can't (at least) go to amazon.com and 
>search for
>>books on "Java Struts."  You were smart enough to subscribe 
>to this list,
>>after all.
>>
>>http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Pat Quinn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 2:52 PM
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: RE: General Struts Question
>>
>>
>>i'm a first year uni student actually and i've only been 
>working with java
>>for six weeks actually
>>
>>
>> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" 
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>> >Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:49:38 -0400
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Really! You wonder if these people have jobs. Let's hope not.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >"Galbreath, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 09/11/2002 02:32:39 PM
>> >
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>> >
>> >
>> >STFW, dude.  Don't expect us to do your homework for you.
>> >
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>> >From: Pat Quinn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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RE: General Struts Question

[James Mitchell]

LOL.good one

although you could have put:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=struts+books"/>


James Mitchell
Software Engineer\Struts Evangelist
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> There should be a "Search Archive" link on the same page as the
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> John
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Re: General Struts Question

[Eddie Bush]

http://www.theserverside.com/resources/strutsreview.jsp

You'll have to sign up before you can download the chapters.  Don't 
forget you can pre-order your own copy now -- I use bookpool.com over 
amazon.com since they're cheaper.

Regards,

Eddie

Pat Quinn wrote:

> i'm a first year uni student actually and i've only been working with 
> java for six weeks actually 




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Re: General Struts Question

[Eddie Bush]

Galbreath, Mark wrote:

>No, but does anybody know when the final 1.1 release will be?
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[OT] RE: General Struts Question

[jsadove]

that's reassuring to me. but not for my 14 year old!




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Subject:  RE: General Struts Question


i'm a first year uni student actually and i've only been working with java
for six weeks actually


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>Really! You wonder if these people have jobs. Let's hope not.
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>
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>STFW, dude.  Don't expect us to do your homework for you.
>
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[OT] Re: General Struts Question

[mailinglist]

> LOL.good one
>
> although you could have put:
> 
>
path="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=struts+books"/>


Too late:
"Availability:  Out-Of-Stock"  already a best seller :)


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Re: General Struts Question [OT]

[Michael Lee]

That just returns a list of books. It doesn't denote what we recommend. They
have user ratings but I would think that the struts email list would
probably be the best place to ask so I think it's a semi legitimate
question. I would like him to read a book...I have lots of questions. :)

BTW, buy.com has free shipping on its books.

My 5 c
Mike

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To: "'Struts Users Mailing List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 3:03 PM
Subject: RE: General Struts Question


> That does not mean you can't (at least) go to amazon.com and search for
> books on "Java Struts."  You were smart enough to subscribe to this list,
> after all.
>
> http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pat Quinn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 2:52 PM
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> Subject: RE: General Struts Question
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>
> i'm a first year uni student actually and i've only been working with java
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>
>
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:49:38 -0400
> >
> >
> >
> >Really! You wonder if these people have jobs. Let's hope not.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"Galbreath, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 09/11/2002 02:32:39 PM
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> >STFW, dude.  Don't expect us to do your homework for you.
> >
> >-Original Message-
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Re: General Struts Question[OT]

[Michael Lee]

Here's one more thing I think you might want to learn today...
[OT] = Off Topic!
:)

jk

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Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 3:28 PM
Subject: RE: General Struts Question


That is soo true! I graduated from Plymouth University (England) in 1990
and I swear that I learn more in any given year than I ever did during my
entire University degree!

>-Original Message-
>From: Galbreath, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 2:24 PM
>To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
>Subject: RE: General Struts Question
>
>
>Education is a life-long process and requires work!  :-)
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Pat Quinn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 3:14 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: General Struts Question
>
>
>Ok Mark i just read that link and i hold my hands up you got
>me... time to
>do some research for myself... sorry
>
>
>>From: "Galbreath, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: RE: General Struts Question
>>Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:03:54 -0400
>>
>>That does not mean you can't (at least) go to amazon.com and
>search for
>>books on "Java Struts."  You were smart enough to subscribe
>to this list,
>>after all.
>>
>>http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Pat Quinn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 2:52 PM
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: RE: General Struts Question
>>
>>
>>i'm a first year uni student actually and i've only been
>working with java
>>for six weeks actually
>>
>>
>> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List"
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>> >Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:49:38 -0400
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Really! You wonder if these people have jobs. Let's hope not.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >"Galbreath, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 09/11/2002 02:32:39 PM
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>> >
>> >
>> >STFW, dude.  Don't expect us to do your homework for you.
>> >
>> >-Original Message-
>> >From: Pat Quinn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Re: General Struts Question [OT]

[Pat Quinn]

Thats what i would have guessed but anyway the guys were very helpful in the 
end... so cheers guys now i've got some material i can take home... ok its 
late here so i'm off home

Thanks Guys


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>Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 16:14:53 -0400
>
>That just returns a list of books. It doesn't denote what we recommend. 
>They
>have user ratings but I would think that the struts email list would
>probably be the best place to ask so I think it's a semi legitimate
>question. I would like him to read a book...I have lots of questions. :)
>
>BTW, buy.com has free shipping on its books.
>
>My 5 c
>Mike
>
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>To: "'Struts Users Mailing List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
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> > books on "Java Struts."  You were smart enough to subscribe to this 
>list,
> > after all.
> >
> > http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
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> > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 2:52 PM
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> > Subject: RE: General Struts Question
> >
> >
> > i'm a first year uni student actually and i've only been working with 
>java
> > for six weeks actually
> >
> >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Really! You wonder if these people have jobs. Let's hope not.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >"Galbreath, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 09/11/2002 02:32:39 PM
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[OT] [DON'T READ] RE: [FRIVOLOUS] Re: General Struts Question

[micael]

No.  Did not see her chest.  If she let that thing go, we'd all be in 
trouble.  A lot of back hair though.  God, she is going to kill me if she 
sees this.

At 04:32 PM 9/11/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>Is her name Ingeborg?  I think I might know her?  Does she have more chest
>hair than Sasquatch?
>
>James Mitchell
>Software Engineer\Struts Evangelist
>Struts-Atlanta, the "Open Minded Developer Network"
>http://www.open-tools.org/struts-atlanta
>
>
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: micael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 4:03 PM
> > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > Subject: [FRIVOLOUS] Re: General Struts Question [LET US BE KINDER AND
> > MORE SOPHISTICATED?]
> >
> >
> > You would laugh harder if you saw her.  She is this very stern German
> > looking frau (married one of our servicemen) and has these
> > absolutely huge
> > ., armpit hair to die for, etc.  Reminded me of the German
> > camp frau in
> > Linda Wertmueller's "Seven Beauties," who was this Nazi that the
> > chicken-hearted Italian turncoat had to "do" to keep alive.  She actually
> > has since become a good friend, and I hope she sees this. lol
> >
> > At 02:48 PM 9/11/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> > >LMAO - she said that?!  LOL ... that will last me THE REST OF THE
> > >WEEK!!!  I *love* it!!
> > >
> > >micael wrote:
> > >
> > >>Sometimes we forget how much we know and are not kind to those who are
> > >>where we once were.  There is no point in giving this guy trouble.  He
> > >>correctly identified his question, and he could have been redirected
> > >>easily.  I remember my first day in a programming class.  I had to ask
> > >>another student, a woman, how to turn the computer on.  I simply said
> > >>"How do you turn these on?"  She said "I am MARRIED!"  Sometimes we
> > >>forget the obvious is the hardest thing to find out.  How do you find
> > >>out, if you don't know, how to make a space on the keyboard?
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RE: [OT] [DON'T READ] RE: [FRIVOLOUS] Re: General Struts Question

[James Mitchell]

LOLROTF!!  We better stop before we are forced to send out apology
letter like Mark DOH

James Mitchell
Software Engineer\Struts Evangelist
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http://www.open-tools.org/struts-atlanta




> -Original Message-
> From: micael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 4:37 PM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: [OT] [DON'T READ] RE: [FRIVOLOUS] Re: General Struts Question
>
>
> No.  Did not see her chest.  If she let that thing go, we'd all be in
> trouble.  A lot of back hair though.  God, she is going to kill me if she
> sees this.
>
> At 04:32 PM 9/11/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> >Is her name Ingeborg?  I think I might know her?  Does she have
> more chest
> >hair than Sasquatch?
> >
> >James Mitchell
> >Software Engineer\Struts Evangelist
> >Struts-Atlanta, the "Open Minded Developer Network"
> >http://www.open-tools.org/struts-atlanta
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: micael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 4:03 PM
> > > To: Struts Users Mailing List
> > > Subject: [FRIVOLOUS] Re: General Struts Question [LET US BE KINDER AND
> > > MORE SOPHISTICATED?]
> > >
> > >
> > > You would laugh harder if you saw her.  She is this very stern German
> > > looking frau (married one of our servicemen) and has these
> > > absolutely huge
> > > ., armpit hair to die for, etc.  Reminded me of the German
> > > camp frau in
> > > Linda Wertmueller's "Seven Beauties," who was this Nazi that the
> > > chicken-hearted Italian turncoat had to "do" to keep alive.
> She actually
> > > has since become a good friend, and I hope she sees this. lol
> > >
> > > At 02:48 PM 9/11/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> > > >LMAO - she said that?!  LOL ... that will last me THE REST OF THE
> > > >WEEK!!!  I *love* it!!
> > > >
> > > >micael wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>Sometimes we forget how much we know and are not kind to
> those who are
> > > >>where we once were.  There is no point in giving this guy
> trouble.  He
> > > >>correctly identified his question, and he could have been redirected
> > > >>easily.  I remember my first day in a programming class.  I
> had to ask
> > > >>another student, a woman, how to turn the computer on.  I
> simply said
> > > >>"How do you turn these on?"  She said "I am MARRIED!"  Sometimes we
> > > >>forget the obvious is the hardest thing to find out.  How
> do you find
> > > >>out, if you don't know, how to make a space on the keyboard?
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RE: General Struts Question [LET US BE KINDER AND MORE SOPHISTICATED?]

[micael]

Sometimes we forget how much we know and are not kind to those who are 
where we once were.  There is no point in giving this guy trouble.  He 
correctly identified his question, and he could have been redirected 
easily.  I remember my first day in a programming class.  I had to ask 
another student, a woman, how to turn the computer on.  I simply said "How 
do you turn these on?"  She said "I am MARRIED!"  Sometimes we forget the 
obvious is the hardest thing to find out.  How do you find out, if you 
don't know, how to make a space on the keyboard?

At 04:19 PM 9/11/2002 -0300, you wrote:

> there should be an initial email stating where there are 
> tutorials, books, release date :), and etc,
>because there will always ask questions that takes a few seconds on the 
>main website to find the answer :)
>
> at least I havent seen anyone ask where they can download struts :)
>
>
>At 03:03 PM 9/11/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>>That does not mean you can't (at least) go to amazon.com and search for
>>books on "Java Struts."  You were smart enough to subscribe to this list,
>>after all.
>>
>>http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Pat Quinn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 2:52 PM
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: RE: General Struts Question
>>
>>
>>i'm a first year uni student actually and i've only been working with java
>>for six weeks actually
>>
>>
>> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >Subject: RE: General Struts Question
>> >Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:49:38 -0400
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Really! You wonder if these people have jobs. Let's hope not.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >"Galbreath, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 09/11/2002 02:32:39 PM
>> >
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>> >cc:(bcc: Joseph Sadove/DKBDS USA/DKB)
>> >
>> >Subject:  RE: General Struts Question
>> >
>> >
>> >STFW, dude.  Don't expect us to do your homework for you.
>> >
>> >-Original Message-
>> >From: Pat Quinn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> >Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 2:25 PM
>> >
>> >Does any know of any good books on struts that are available at the
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RE: General Struts Question [LET US BE KINDER AND MORE SOPHISTICATED?]

[Galbreath, Mark]

Don't ask me...I still haven't found the "any" key

-Original Message-
From: micael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 3:30 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: General Struts Question [LET US BE KINDER AND MORE
SOPHISTICATED?]


Sometimes we forget how much we know and are not kind to those who are 
where we once were.  There is no point in giving this guy trouble.  He 
correctly identified his question, and he could have been redirected 
easily.  I remember my first day in a programming class.  I had to ask 
another student, a woman, how to turn the computer on.  I simply said "How 
do you turn these on?"  She said "I am MARRIED!"  Sometimes we forget the 
obvious is the hardest thing to find out.  How do you find out, if you 
don't know, how to make a space on the keyboard?

At 04:19 PM 9/11/2002 -0300, you wrote:

> there should be an initial email stating where there are 
> tutorials, books, release date :), and etc,
>because there will always ask questions that takes a few seconds on the 
>main website to find the answer :)
>
> at least I havent seen anyone ask where they can download struts
:)
>
>
>At 03:03 PM 9/11/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>>That does not mean you can't (at least) go to amazon.com and search for
>>books on "Java Struts."  You were smart enough to subscribe to this list,
>>after all.
>>
>>http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Pat Quinn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 2:52 PM
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: RE: General Struts Question
>>
>>
>>i'm a first year uni student actually and i've only been working with java
>>for six weeks actually
>>
>>
>> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >Subject: RE: General Struts Question
>> >Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:49:38 -0400
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Really! You wonder if these people have jobs. Let's hope not.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >"Galbreath, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 09/11/2002 02:32:39 PM
>> >
>> >Please respond to "Struts Users Mailing List"
>> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >
>> >To:   "'Struts Users Mailing List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >cc:(bcc: Joseph Sadove/DKBDS USA/DKB)
>> >
>> >Subject:  RE: General Struts Question
>> >
>> >
>> >STFW, dude.  Don't expect us to do your homework for you.
>> >
>> >-Original Message-
>> >From: Pat Quinn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> >Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 2:25 PM
>> >
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Re: General Struts Question [LET US BE KINDER AND MORE SOPHISTICATED?]

[Eddie Bush]

LMAO - she said that?!  LOL ... that will last me THE REST OF THE 
WEEK!!!  I *love* it!!

micael wrote:

> Sometimes we forget how much we know and are not kind to those who are 
> where we once were.  There is no point in giving this guy trouble.  He 
> correctly identified his question, and he could have been redirected 
> easily.  I remember my first day in a programming class.  I had to ask 
> another student, a woman, how to turn the computer on.  I simply said 
> "How do you turn these on?"  She said "I am MARRIED!"  Sometimes we 
> forget the obvious is the hardest thing to find out.  How do you find 
> out, if you don't know, how to make a space on the keyboard?




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Re: General Struts Question [LET US BE KINDER AND MORE SOPHISTICATED?]

[Pat Quinn]

I know how to search in google and I have ordered a book (Mastering Struts 
by James Goodwill) on this topic… but I just wanted to make sure it was a 
decent book as I’m living on a student allowance…



>From: Eddie Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: General Struts Question [LET US BE KINDER AND MORE  
>SOPHISTICATED?]
>Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:48:08 -0500
>
>LMAO - she said that?!  LOL ... that will last me THE REST OF THE WEEK!!!  
>I *love* it!!
>
>micael wrote:
>
>>Sometimes we forget how much we know and are not kind to those who are 
>>where we once were.  There is no point in giving this guy trouble.  He 
>>correctly identified his question, and he could have been redirected 
>>easily.  I remember my first day in a programming class.  I had to ask 
>>another student, a woman, how to turn the computer on.  I simply said "How 
>>do you turn these on?"  She said "I am MARRIED!"  Sometimes we forget the 
>>obvious is the hardest thing to find out.  How do you find out, if you 
>>don't know, how to make a space on the keyboard?
>
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Re: General Struts Question [LET US BE KINDER AND MORE SOPHISTICATED?]

[Daniel Jaffa]

If you look very hard,  i do not know where i found it
but u can down load a free beta book called Struts Fast Track by Vic
Cekvenich

There are nice people out there

Daniel Jaffa

I was new to struts only 9 months ago

- Original Message -
From: "Pat Quinn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: General Struts Question [LET US BE KINDER AND MORE
SOPHISTICATED?]


> I know how to search in google and I have ordered a book (Mastering Struts
> by James Goodwill) on this topic. but I just wanted to make sure it was a
> decent book as I'm living on a student allowance.
>
>
>
> >From: Eddie Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: General Struts Question [LET US BE KINDER AND MORE
> >SOPHISTICATED?]
> >Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:48:08 -0500
> >
> >LMAO - she said that?!  LOL ... that will last me THE REST OF THE WEEK!!!
> >I *love* it!!
> >
> >micael wrote:
> >
> >>Sometimes we forget how much we know and are not kind to those who are
> >>where we once were.  There is no point in giving this guy trouble.  He
> >>correctly identified his question, and he could have been redirected
> >>easily.  I remember my first day in a programming class.  I had to ask
> >>another student, a woman, how to turn the computer on.  I simply said
"How
> >>do you turn these on?"  She said "I am MARRIED!"  Sometimes we forget
the
> >>obvious is the hardest thing to find out.  How do you find out, if you
> >>don't know, how to make a space on the keyboard?
> >
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Re: General Struts Question [LET US BE KINDER AND MORE SOPHISTICATED?]

[micael]

The information on the site is actually really, really good.  That combined 
with the archives is good enough, if you have a budget problem.  I think 
that it is cool that you are a new java person checking this out already.

At 08:49 PM 9/11/2002 +0100, you wrote:
>I know how to search in google and I have ordered a book (Mastering Struts 
>by James Goodwill) on this topic… but I just wanted to make sure it was a 
>decent book as I’m living on a student allowance…
>
>
>
>>From: Eddie Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: Re: General Struts Question [LET US BE KINDER AND MORE
>>SOPHISTICATED?]
>>Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:48:08 -0500
>>
>>LMAO - she said that?!  LOL ... that will last me THE REST OF THE WEEK!!!
>>I *love* it!!
>>
>>micael wrote:
>>
>>>Sometimes we forget how much we know and are not kind to those who are 
>>>where we once were.  There is no point in giving this guy trouble.  He 
>>>correctly identified his question, and he could have been redirected 
>>>easily.  I remember my first day in a programming class.  I had to ask 
>>>another student, a woman, how to turn the computer on.  I simply said 
>>>"How do you turn these on?"  She said "I am MARRIED!"  Sometimes we 
>>>forget the obvious is the hardest thing to find out.  How do you find 
>>>out, if you don't know, how to make a space on the keyboard?
>>
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RE: General Struts Question [LET US BE KINDER AND MORE SOPHISTICATED?]

[Galbreath, Mark]

That book sucks!  Read the reviews on amazon, dude!

-Original Message-
From: Daniel Jaffa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 3:59 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: General Struts Question [LET US BE KINDER AND MORE
SOPHISTICATED?]


If you look very hard,  i do not know where i found it
but u can down load a free beta book called Struts Fast Track by Vic
Cekvenich

There are nice people out there

Daniel Jaffa

I was new to struts only 9 months ago

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From: "Pat Quinn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: General Struts Question [LET US BE KINDER AND MORE
SOPHISTICATED?]


> I know how to search in google and I have ordered a book (Mastering Struts
> by James Goodwill) on this topic. but I just wanted to make sure it was a
> decent book as I'm living on a student allowance.
>
>
>
> >From: Eddie Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: General Struts Question [LET US BE KINDER AND MORE
> >SOPHISTICATED?]
> >Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:48:08 -0500
> >
> >LMAO - she said that?!  LOL ... that will last me THE REST OF THE WEEK!!!
> >I *love* it!!
> >
> >micael wrote:
> >
> >>Sometimes we forget how much we know and are not kind to those who are
> >>where we once were.  There is no point in giving this guy trouble.  He
> >>correctly identified his question, and he could have been redirected
> >>easily.  I remember my first day in a programming class.  I had to ask
> >>another student, a woman, how to turn the computer on.  I simply said
"How
> >>do you turn these on?"  She said "I am MARRIED!"  Sometimes we forget
the
> >>obvious is the hardest thing to find out.  How do you find out, if you
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Re: General Struts Question [LET US BE KINDER AND MORE SOPHISTICATED?]

[mailinglist]

> I know how to search in google and I have ordered a book (Mastering Struts
> by James Goodwill) on this topic. but I just wanted to make sure it was a
> decent book as I'm living on a student allowance.

It's a good book (I've not finished it yet), I understand everything in
spite of my poor english skills, maybe a little light even for a newbie like
me...
However, Chuck's book preview seems more complete so start reading
"Mastering Struts" then "Programming Jakarta Struts" and Ted's one should
then be available:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1930110502/qid=1031774919/sr=8
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Re: General Struts Question [LET US BE KINDER AND MORE SOPHISTICATED?]

[Eddie Bush]

I haven't read James' book. Mark is in the process of reviewing it and 
sharing his experience with us. In the meantime, let Chuck's book 
suffice. It's free for download (the review chapters are anyway), and it 
will really flesh things out for you (I'll be *very* surprised if it 
doesn't help emensly).

Having not read James' book, and having seen the example chapters out of 
Chuck's, I would tend to recommend Chuck's. I'm not sure how long ago 
James' book became available, but there could also be issues related to 
new functionality in Struts 1.1 not having made it into James' book. 
Mark could tell you more about that. I know Chuck's book really shed 
good light on some of the more advanced features for me though. Thus, I 
recommend it to everyone. Ted's book will probably be quite good too. 
The tips he puts out are small excerpts from his book. Having found 
several of them handy, I recon his book will be too. I wish I knew more 
about James' book ...

Chuck said something about how each of the books' authors had a 
different background, and how he figured, while there would be some 
overlap, each of them would cover different things.

Regards,

Eddie

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> Struts by James Goodwill) on this topic? but I just wanted to make 
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[Galbreath, Mark]

Speaking of which, here is the archive for our new young Strutster:

http://www.mail-archive.com/struts-user%40jakarta.apache.org/

There will be very few questions you will ask (including the one you just
did) that are not already answered here.

Mark (wiping trout scales from face...tastes like sushi!)

-Original Message-
From: micael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 4:04 PM

The information on the site is actually really, really good.  That combined 
with the archives is good enough, if you have a budget problem.  I think 
that it is cool that you are a new java person checking this out already.

At 08:49 PM 9/11/2002 +0100, you wrote:
>I know how to search in google and I have ordered a book (Mastering Struts 
>by James Goodwill) on this topic... but I just wanted to make sure it was a

>decent book as I'm living on a student allowance...
>
>
>
>>From: Eddie Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Subject: Re: General Struts Question [LET US BE KINDER AND MORE
>>SOPHISTICATED?]
>>Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:48:08 -0500
>>
>>LMAO - she said that?!  LOL ... that will last me THE REST OF THE WEEK!!!
>>I *love* it!!
>>
>>micael wrote:
>>
>>>Sometimes we forget how much we know and are not kind to those who are 
>>>where we once were.  There is no point in giving this guy trouble.  He 
>>>correctly identified his question, and he could have been redirected 
>>>easily.  I remember my first day in a programming class.  I had to ask 
>>>another student, a woman, how to turn the computer on.  I simply said 
>>>"How do you turn these on?"  She said "I am MARRIED!"  Sometimes we 
>>>forget the obvious is the hardest thing to find out.  How do you find 
>>>out, if you don't know, how to make a space on the keyboard?
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[micael]

I agree 100%.  I bought the online version and nuked it.  Sorry Vic.  I 
know you tried.  Did not work!

At 04:10 PM 9/11/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>That book sucks!  Read the reviews on amazon, dude!
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Daniel Jaffa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 3:59 PM
>To: Struts Users Mailing List
>Subject: Re: General Struts Question [LET US BE KINDER AND MORE
>SOPHISTICATED?]
>
>
>If you look very hard,  i do not know where i found it
>but u can down load a free beta book called Struts Fast Track by Vic
>Cekvenich
>
>There are nice people out there
>
>Daniel Jaffa
>
>I was new to struts only 9 months ago
>
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>From: "Pat Quinn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 3:49 PM
>Subject: Re: General Struts Question [LET US BE KINDER AND MORE
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>
>
> > I know how to search in google and I have ordered a book (Mastering Struts
> > by James Goodwill) on this topic. but I just wanted to make sure it was a
> > decent book as I'm living on a student allowance.
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: Eddie Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > >Subject: Re: General Struts Question [LET US BE KINDER AND MORE
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> > >Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:48:08 -0500
> > >
> > >LMAO - she said that?!  LOL ... that will last me THE REST OF THE WEEK!!!
> > >I *love* it!!
> > >
> > >micael wrote:
> > >
> > >>Sometimes we forget how much we know and are not kind to those who are
> > >>where we once were.  There is no point in giving this guy trouble.  He
> > >>correctly identified his question, and he could have been redirected
> > >>easily.  I remember my first day in a programming class.  I had to ask
> > >>another student, a woman, how to turn the computer on.  I simply said
>"How
> > >>do you turn these on?"  She said "I am MARRIED!"  Sometimes we forget
>the
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[Pat Quinn]

See this is the info i wanted... i've just downloaded chucks book and i'll 
be holding out for the final version cheers guys

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>Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 22:10:26 +0200
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>
> > I know how to search in google and I have ordered a book (Mastering 
>Struts
> > by James Goodwill) on this topic. but I just wanted to make sure it was 
>a
> > decent book as I'm living on a student allowance.
>
>It's a good book (I've not finished it yet), I understand everything in
>spite of my poor english skills, maybe a little light even for a newbie 
>like
>me...
>However, Chuck's book preview seems more complete so start reading
>"Mastering Struts" then "Programming Jakarta Struts" and Ted's one should
>then be available:
>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1930110502/qid=1031774919/sr=8
>-3/ref=sr_8_3/104-5500255-0862313?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
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[Galbreath, Mark]

I've read Chuck's draft (edited half of it) and am half-way through James'
book.  James' book is definitely the book with which to start a new user.

Mark the Smelly One

-Original Message-
From: Eddie Bush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 4:14 PM

I haven't read James' book. Mark is in the process of reviewing it and 
sharing his experience with us. In the meantime, let Chuck's book 
suffice. It's free for download (the review chapters are anyway), and it 
will really flesh things out for you (I'll be *very* surprised if it 
doesn't help emensly).

Having not read James' book, and having seen the example chapters out of 
Chuck's, I would tend to recommend Chuck's. I'm not sure how long ago 
James' book became available, but there could also be issues related to 
new functionality in Struts 1.1 not having made it into James' book. 
Mark could tell you more about that. I know Chuck's book really shed 
good light on some of the more advanced features for me though. Thus, I 
recommend it to everyone. Ted's book will probably be quite good too. 
The tips he puts out are small excerpts from his book. Having found 
several of them handy, I recon his book will be too. I wish I knew more 
about James' book ...

Chuck said something about how each of the books' authors had a 
different background, and how he figured, while there would be some 
overlap, each of them would cover different things.

Regards,

Eddie

Pat Quinn wrote:

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[Day, Michael-IBM/TT]

Personally, I don't understand why should would say that she is married...

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Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 3:30 PM
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Sometimes we forget how much we know and are not kind to those who are 
where we once were.  There is no point in giving this guy trouble.  He 
correctly identified his question, and he could have been redirected 
easily.  I remember my first day in a programming class.  I had to ask 
another student, a woman, how to turn the computer on.  I simply said "How 
do you turn these on?"  She said "I am MARRIED!"  Sometimes we forget the 
obvious is the hardest thing to find out.  How do you find out, if you 
don't know, how to make a space on the keyboard?

At 04:19 PM 9/11/2002 -0300, you wrote:

> there should be an initial email stating where there are 
> tutorials, books, release date :), and etc,
>because there will always ask questions that takes a few seconds on the 
>main website to find the answer :)
>
> at least I havent seen anyone ask where they can download struts
:)
>
>
>At 03:03 PM 9/11/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>>That does not mean you can't (at least) go to amazon.com and search for
>>books on "Java Struts."  You were smart enough to subscribe to this list,
>>after all.
>>
>>http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Pat Quinn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 2:52 PM
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: RE: General Struts Question
>>
>>
>>i'm a first year uni student actually and i've only been working with java
>>for six weeks actually
>>
>>
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>> >Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>> >Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:49:38 -0400
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Really! You wonder if these people have jobs. Let's hope not.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >"Galbreath, Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 09/11/2002 02:32:39 PM
>> >
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>> >Subject:  RE: General Struts Question
>> >
>> >
>> >STFW, dude.  Don't expect us to do your homework for you.
>> >
>> >-Original Message-
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>> >Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 2:25 PM
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>> >Does any know of any good books on struts that are available at the
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[micael]

You would laugh harder if you saw her.  She is this very stern German 
looking frau (married one of our servicemen) and has these absolutely huge 
., armpit hair to die for, etc.  Reminded me of the German camp frau in 
Linda Wertmueller's "Seven Beauties," who was this Nazi that the 
chicken-hearted Italian turncoat had to "do" to keep alive.  She actually 
has since become a good friend, and I hope she sees this. lol

At 02:48 PM 9/11/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>LMAO - she said that?!  LOL ... that will last me THE REST OF THE 
>WEEK!!!  I *love* it!!
>
>micael wrote:
>
>>Sometimes we forget how much we know and are not kind to those who are 
>>where we once were.  There is no point in giving this guy trouble.  He 
>>correctly identified his question, and he could have been redirected 
>>easily.  I remember my first day in a programming class.  I had to ask 
>>another student, a woman, how to turn the computer on.  I simply said 
>>"How do you turn these on?"  She said "I am MARRIED!"  Sometimes we 
>>forget the obvious is the hardest thing to find out.  How do you find 
>>out, if you don't know, how to make a space on the keyboard?
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RE: General Struts Question [LET US BE KINDER AND MORE SOPHISTICA TED?]

[Darren Hill]

Sorry to say but .. Brutal Book.

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Sent: September 11, 2002 4:11 PM
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That book sucks!  Read the reviews on amazon, dude!

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If you look very hard,  i do not know where i found it
but u can down load a free beta book called Struts Fast Track by Vic
Cekvenich

There are nice people out there

Daniel Jaffa

I was new to struts only 9 months ago

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Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 3:49 PM
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> I know how to search in google and I have ordered a book (Mastering Struts
> by James Goodwill) on this topic. but I just wanted to make sure it was a
> decent book as I'm living on a student allowance.
>
>
>
> >From: Eddie Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: Struts Users Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: General Struts Question [LET US BE KINDER AND MORE
> >SOPHISTICATED?]
> >Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:48:08 -0500
> >
> >LMAO - she said that?!  LOL ... that will last me THE REST OF THE WEEK!!!
> >I *love* it!!
> >
> >micael wrote:
> >
> >>Sometimes we forget how much we know and are not kind to those who are
> >>where we once were.  There is no point in giving this guy trouble.  He
> >>correctly identified his question, and he could have been redirected
> >>easily.  I remember my first day in a programming class.  I had to ask
> >>another student, a woman, how to turn the computer on.  I simply said
"How
> >>do you turn these on?"  She said "I am MARRIED!"  Sometimes we forget
the
> >>obvious is the hardest thing to find out.  How do you find out, if you
> >>don't know, how to make a space on the keyboard?
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Re: General Struts Question [LET US BE KINDER AND MORE SOPHISTICA TED?]

[Daniel Jaffa]

Sorry, just downloaded the book 3 weeks ago, never read it since i am
waiting for James book.

I guess i can delete it from my machine then
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> I've read Chuck's draft (edited half of it) and am half-way through James'
> book.  James' book is definitely the book with which to start a new user.
>
> Mark the Smelly One
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Eddie Bush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 4:14 PM
>
> I haven't read James' book. Mark is in the process of reviewing it and
> sharing his experience with us. In the meantime, let Chuck's book
> suffice. It's free for download (the review chapters are anyway), and it
> will really flesh things out for you (I'll be *very* surprised if it
> doesn't help emensly).
>
> Having not read James' book, and having seen the example chapters out of
> Chuck's, I would tend to recommend Chuck's. I'm not sure how long ago
> James' book became available, but there could also be issues related to
> new functionality in Struts 1.1 not having made it into James' book.
> Mark could tell you more about that. I know Chuck's book really shed
> good light on some of the more advanced features for me though. Thus, I
> recommend it to everyone. Ted's book will probably be quite good too.
> The tips he puts out are small excerpts from his book. Having found
> several of them handy, I recon his book will be too. I wish I knew more
> about James' book ...
>
> Chuck said something about how each of the books' authors had a
> different background, and how he figured, while there would be some
> overlap, each of them would cover different things.
>
> Regards,
>
> Eddie
>
> Pat Quinn wrote:
>
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[Eddie Bush]

I gather he incorporated the 1.1 information then?

Galbreath, Mark wrote:

>I've read Chuck's draft (edited half of it) and am half-way through James'
>book.  James' book is definitely the book with which to start a new user.
>
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[Eddie Bush]

I wouldn't :-)  I've found that thing so useful, the book (when it 
arrives) will have a permenant spot on my bookshelf.  Heck, I might even 
frame it for nostaliga once we move on to 1.2 or 2.0!

Daniel Jaffa wrote:

>Sorry, just downloaded the book 3 weeks ago, never read it since i am
>waiting for James book.
>
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[Galbreath, Mark]

yep

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I gather he incorporated the 1.1 information then?

Galbreath, Mark wrote:

>I've read Chuck's draft (edited half of it) and am half-way through James'
>book.  James' book is definitely the book with which to start a new user.
>
>Mark the Smelly One
>
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RE: [FRIVOLOUS] Re: General Struts Question [LET US BE KINDER AND MORE SOPHISTICATED?]

[James Mitchell]

Is her name Ingeborg?  I think I might know her?  Does she have more chest
hair than Sasquatch?

James Mitchell
Software Engineer\Struts Evangelist
Struts-Atlanta, the "Open Minded Developer Network"
http://www.open-tools.org/struts-atlanta




> -Original Message-
> From: micael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 4:03 PM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: [FRIVOLOUS] Re: General Struts Question [LET US BE KINDER AND
> MORE SOPHISTICATED?]
>
>
> You would laugh harder if you saw her.  She is this very stern German
> looking frau (married one of our servicemen) and has these
> absolutely huge
> ., armpit hair to die for, etc.  Reminded me of the German
> camp frau in
> Linda Wertmueller's "Seven Beauties," who was this Nazi that the
> chicken-hearted Italian turncoat had to "do" to keep alive.  She actually
> has since become a good friend, and I hope she sees this. lol
>
> At 02:48 PM 9/11/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> >LMAO - she said that?!  LOL ... that will last me THE REST OF THE
> >WEEK!!!  I *love* it!!
> >
> >micael wrote:
> >
> >>Sometimes we forget how much we know and are not kind to those who are
> >>where we once were.  There is no point in giving this guy trouble.  He
> >>correctly identified his question, and he could have been redirected
> >>easily.  I remember my first day in a programming class.  I had to ask
> >>another student, a woman, how to turn the computer on.  I simply said
> >>"How do you turn these on?"  She said "I am MARRIED!"  Sometimes we
> >>forget the obvious is the hardest thing to find out.  How do you find
> >>out, if you don't know, how to make a space on the keyboard?
> >
> >
> >
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