RE: [OT] RE: J2EE certified
Are you interested in getting yourself or an application certified? Do you mean, for example, that you want to get certified as a knowledgeable person or that you have coded an application which for some reason you want to be certified as J2EE compliant? If either is the case, go to www.java.sun.com and do the relevant searches to find the right pages on either one. Good luck. Pax nabisco! Micael At 09:37 AM 8/18/2003 -0400, Mark Galbreath wrote: Very diplomatic of you, Mark, but I won't be an apologist for a bigot. Mark -Original Message- From: Mark Lowe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:34 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified I'd prefer to know the guys name. I wouldn't like to make any judgments about disturbedness, give him a chance. He could have got off to a bad start, been up against the wire and trying to get something working when he started out. And forgot that there are real people at the end of the messages. By the time he got a response the whole dialogue had started. Message, can you stop assuming that we're all white racists that all hate you, and tell us what struts problems your still having? Signing up with your real name and putting a lid on the dummy-spitting could help you solve your problem. Even remaining message message wouldn't be a problem, if you just stop giving it the large one. If the english is a problem please just say so, perhaps an over-reliance on first language idioms makes things a tad tricky to comprehend. So did you get your login app running? If not what's going on with it? Any error messages? Cheers Mark On Monday, August 18, 2003, at 02:15 PM, Mark Galbreath wrote: already done. I'd like to see Craig or Ted kick this guy off the list. There is absolutely no excuse for racial slurs or personal attacks. This guy is apparently very disturbed. Mark -Original Message- From: Jeff Kyser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:56 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified 'the majority of you...' ??? setting up message message filter filter now now... -jeff On Monday, August 18, 2003, at 07:51 AM, message message wrote: Who wants to know about your theory about girls or beer. I already you know that the majority of you are Racist , low life scum. From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 16:47:47 +0400 Why not filter you out. Perhaps because you are white. Or perhaps you represent certain interests. From: Mark Galbreath [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 08:05:44 -0400 Just filter out this message message character; he's been argumentative and arrogant since he joined a couple of weeks ago. Mark -Original Message- From: Adam Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 6:08 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Before you guys on this thread go really overboard with tit-for-tat arguments, perhaps you should consider whether that type of discussion fits in on a list where people are on first name terms, helpfulness and consideration are the order of the day, and secretiveness is generally considered unnecessary. It's only through such an attitude shared by all the listers here that such a high volume list can remain so productive. All the best, Adam On 08/16/2003 11:47 AM message message wrote: I should also inform you that I am writing my own product that includes marketing. It is none of your business what the product is. From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 13:37:43 +0400 There is nothing wonky here apart from your postings. A discussion is going on about verify applications and the consequences. I hardly consider you to be qualified to express an opinion on my posting. To make comments or express opinions about my postings is a qualification you gave yourself but I do not recognise it. From: Alen Ribic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 08:41:45 +0200 Just create a noise box and dump things like this in it. Does the job well. ;) Subjects aint standardised anyway. Some read [OT] other [OFF TOPIC], [???nothing???], etc. I can't really filter this so I just read first 1 or two threads and decide if it's relevant info to the reason I subscribed to this mailinglist. ;) ciao --Alen - Original Message
RE: [OT] RE: J2EE certified
Just filter out this message message character; he's been argumentative and arrogant since he joined a couple of weeks ago. Mark -Original Message- From: Adam Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 6:08 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Before you guys on this thread go really overboard with tit-for-tat arguments, perhaps you should consider whether that type of discussion fits in on a list where people are on first name terms, helpfulness and consideration are the order of the day, and secretiveness is generally considered unnecessary. It's only through such an attitude shared by all the listers here that such a high volume list can remain so productive. All the best, Adam On 08/16/2003 11:47 AM message message wrote: I should also inform you that I am writing my own product that includes marketing. It is none of your business what the product is. From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 13:37:43 +0400 There is nothing wonky here apart from your postings. A discussion is going on about verify applications and the consequences. I hardly consider you to be qualified to express an opinion on my posting. To make comments or express opinions about my postings is a qualification you gave yourself but I do not recognise it. From: Alen Ribic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 08:41:45 +0200 Just create a noise box and dump things like this in it. Does the job well. ;) Subjects aint standardised anyway. Some read [OT] other [OFF TOPIC], [???nothing???], etc. I can't really filter this so I just read first 1 or two threads and decide if it's relevant info to the reason I subscribed to this mailinglist. ;) ciao --Alen - Original Message - From: Micael [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 8:34 AM Subject: [OT] RE: J2EE certified This discussion has gotten a little wonky. Let me suggest you add [OT] to this stuff. At 02:09 AM 8/16/2003 +0400, message message wrote: Also if somebody logged on Sun Microsystems' mailing list using tomcat or JBOSS, I guess he/she would be treated some hostility because he could write applications using J2EE without paying for the J2EE compliancy fee. From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 00:14:02 +0400 There was a dispute by IBM over the specification so IBM's websphere 3.5 wasn't j2ee compliant ? From: Brian Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 13:32:47 -0400 The main advantage is marketing. Since only a few apps are verified, you can tell your clients My product is j2ee verified by sun, but company x is not. Who knows what it will do? Not much of an advantage. But remember all the fud that bea threw back when IBM didn't certify their app server? In my opinion it's not that essential, but then one of my current clients is verifying a couple of their major products. BAL From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 19:34:21 +0400 what is the point of verified application ? Assuming you are referring to the verifier tool which comes with the j2ee bundle from java.sun.com From: Brian Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 10:24:55 -0400 They force you to buy their testing prog at $2k. The bare minimum to verify your app as a j2ee app is $17k for the first year, $15k for each additional. They'll also charge $10k if you need any support during the verification process. It's just a way for sun to make money. Sun doesn't verify your verification so anyone can pay $17k, lie on the checklist and get a sun verified product. BAL From: Bill Chmura [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 01:53:38 -0400 Off that page there is a non-working link to a free trial version. Maybe you can claim your app passed in the free trial version :) -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din
RE: [OT] RE: J2EE certified
Why not filter you out. Perhaps because you are white. Or perhaps you represent certain interests. From: Mark Galbreath [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 08:05:44 -0400 Just filter out this message message character; he's been argumentative and arrogant since he joined a couple of weeks ago. Mark -Original Message- From: Adam Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 6:08 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Before you guys on this thread go really overboard with tit-for-tat arguments, perhaps you should consider whether that type of discussion fits in on a list where people are on first name terms, helpfulness and consideration are the order of the day, and secretiveness is generally considered unnecessary. It's only through such an attitude shared by all the listers here that such a high volume list can remain so productive. All the best, Adam On 08/16/2003 11:47 AM message message wrote: I should also inform you that I am writing my own product that includes marketing. It is none of your business what the product is. From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 13:37:43 +0400 There is nothing wonky here apart from your postings. A discussion is going on about verify applications and the consequences. I hardly consider you to be qualified to express an opinion on my posting. To make comments or express opinions about my postings is a qualification you gave yourself but I do not recognise it. From: Alen Ribic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 08:41:45 +0200 Just create a noise box and dump things like this in it. Does the job well. ;) Subjects aint standardised anyway. Some read [OT] other [OFF TOPIC], [???nothing???], etc. I can't really filter this so I just read first 1 or two threads and decide if it's relevant info to the reason I subscribed to this mailinglist. ;) ciao --Alen - Original Message - From: Micael [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 8:34 AM Subject: [OT] RE: J2EE certified This discussion has gotten a little wonky. Let me suggest you add [OT] to this stuff. At 02:09 AM 8/16/2003 +0400, message message wrote: Also if somebody logged on Sun Microsystems' mailing list using tomcat or JBOSS, I guess he/she would be treated some hostility because he could write applications using J2EE without paying for the J2EE compliancy fee. From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 00:14:02 +0400 There was a dispute by IBM over the specification so IBM's websphere 3.5 wasn't j2ee compliant ? From: Brian Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 13:32:47 -0400 The main advantage is marketing. Since only a few apps are verified, you can tell your clients My product is j2ee verified by sun, but company x is not. Who knows what it will do? Not much of an advantage. But remember all the fud that bea threw back when IBM didn't certify their app server? In my opinion it's not that essential, but then one of my current clients is verifying a couple of their major products. BAL From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 19:34:21 +0400 what is the point of verified application ? Assuming you are referring to the verifier tool which comes with the j2ee bundle from java.sun.com From: Brian Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 10:24:55 -0400 They force you to buy their testing prog at $2k. The bare minimum to verify your app as a j2ee app is $17k for the first year, $15k for each additional. They'll also charge $10k if you need any support during the verification process. It's just a way for sun to make money. Sun doesn't verify your verification so anyone can pay $17k, lie on the checklist and get a sun verified product. BAL From: Bill Chmura [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL
RE: [OT] RE: J2EE certified
Who wants to know about your theory about girls or beer. I already you know that the majority of you are Racist , low life scum. From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 16:47:47 +0400 Why not filter you out. Perhaps because you are white. Or perhaps you represent certain interests. From: Mark Galbreath [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 08:05:44 -0400 Just filter out this message message character; he's been argumentative and arrogant since he joined a couple of weeks ago. Mark -Original Message- From: Adam Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 6:08 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Before you guys on this thread go really overboard with tit-for-tat arguments, perhaps you should consider whether that type of discussion fits in on a list where people are on first name terms, helpfulness and consideration are the order of the day, and secretiveness is generally considered unnecessary. It's only through such an attitude shared by all the listers here that such a high volume list can remain so productive. All the best, Adam On 08/16/2003 11:47 AM message message wrote: I should also inform you that I am writing my own product that includes marketing. It is none of your business what the product is. From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 13:37:43 +0400 There is nothing wonky here apart from your postings. A discussion is going on about verify applications and the consequences. I hardly consider you to be qualified to express an opinion on my posting. To make comments or express opinions about my postings is a qualification you gave yourself but I do not recognise it. From: Alen Ribic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 08:41:45 +0200 Just create a noise box and dump things like this in it. Does the job well. ;) Subjects aint standardised anyway. Some read [OT] other [OFF TOPIC], [???nothing???], etc. I can't really filter this so I just read first 1 or two threads and decide if it's relevant info to the reason I subscribed to this mailinglist. ;) ciao --Alen - Original Message - From: Micael [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 8:34 AM Subject: [OT] RE: J2EE certified This discussion has gotten a little wonky. Let me suggest you add [OT] to this stuff. At 02:09 AM 8/16/2003 +0400, message message wrote: Also if somebody logged on Sun Microsystems' mailing list using tomcat or JBOSS, I guess he/she would be treated some hostility because he could write applications using J2EE without paying for the J2EE compliancy fee. From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 00:14:02 +0400 There was a dispute by IBM over the specification so IBM's websphere 3.5 wasn't j2ee compliant ? From: Brian Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 13:32:47 -0400 The main advantage is marketing. Since only a few apps are verified, you can tell your clients My product is j2ee verified by sun, but company x is not. Who knows what it will do? Not much of an advantage. But remember all the fud that bea threw back when IBM didn't certify their app server? In my opinion it's not that essential, but then one of my current clients is verifying a couple of their major products. BAL From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 19:34:21 +0400 what is the point of verified application ? Assuming you are referring to the verifier tool which comes with the j2ee bundle from java.sun.com From: Brian Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 10:24:55 -0400 They force you to buy their testing prog at $2k. The bare minimum to verify your app as a j2ee app is $17k for the first year, $15k for each additional. They'll also charge $10k if you need any support during the verification
RE: [OT] RE: J2EE certified
Why o why must it always be a racist thing. Can't we all just get along. -Original Message- From: message message [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 7:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Who wants to know about your theory about girls or beer. I already you know that the majority of you are Racist , low life scum. From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 16:47:47 +0400 Why not filter you out. Perhaps because you are white. Or perhaps you represent certain interests. From: Mark Galbreath [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 08:05:44 -0400 Just filter out this message message character; he's been argumentative and arrogant since he joined a couple of weeks ago. Mark -Original Message- From: Adam Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 6:08 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Before you guys on this thread go really overboard with tit-for-tat arguments, perhaps you should consider whether that type of discussion fits in on a list where people are on first name terms, helpfulness and consideration are the order of the day, and secretiveness is generally considered unnecessary. It's only through such an attitude shared by all the listers here that such a high volume list can remain so productive. All the best, Adam On 08/16/2003 11:47 AM message message wrote: I should also inform you that I am writing my own product that includes marketing. It is none of your business what the product is. From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 13:37:43 +0400 There is nothing wonky here apart from your postings. A discussion is going on about verify applications and the consequences. I hardly consider you to be qualified to express an opinion on my posting. To make comments or express opinions about my postings is a qualification you gave yourself but I do not recognise it. From: Alen Ribic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 08:41:45 +0200 Just create a noise box and dump things like this in it. Does the job well. ;) Subjects aint standardised anyway. Some read [OT] other [OFF TOPIC], [???nothing???], etc. I can't really filter this so I just read first 1 or two threads and decide if it's relevant info to the reason I subscribed to this mailinglist. ;) ciao --Alen - Original Message - From: Micael [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 8:34 AM Subject: [OT] RE: J2EE certified This discussion has gotten a little wonky. Let me suggest you add [OT] to this stuff. At 02:09 AM 8/16/2003 +0400, message message wrote: Also if somebody logged on Sun Microsystems' mailing list using tomcat or JBOSS, I guess he/she would be treated some hostility because he could write applications using J2EE without paying for the J2EE compliancy fee. From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 00:14:02 +0400 There was a dispute by IBM over the specification so IBM's websphere 3.5 wasn't j2ee compliant ? From: Brian Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 13:32:47 -0400 The main advantage is marketing. Since only a few apps are verified, you can tell your clients My product is j2ee verified by sun, but company x is not. Who knows what it will do? Not much of an advantage. But remember all the fud that bea threw back when IBM didn't certify their app server? In my opinion it's not that essential, but then one of my current clients is verifying a couple of their major products. BAL From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 19:34:21 +0400 what is the point of verified application ? Assuming you are referring to the verifier tool which comes with the j2ee bundle from java.sun.com From: Brian Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts
Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified
'the majority of you...' ??? setting up message message filter filter now now... -jeff On Monday, August 18, 2003, at 07:51 AM, message message wrote: Who wants to know about your theory about girls or beer. I already you know that the majority of you are Racist , low life scum. From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 16:47:47 +0400 Why not filter you out. Perhaps because you are white. Or perhaps you represent certain interests. From: Mark Galbreath [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 08:05:44 -0400 Just filter out this message message character; he's been argumentative and arrogant since he joined a couple of weeks ago. Mark -Original Message- From: Adam Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 6:08 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Before you guys on this thread go really overboard with tit-for-tat arguments, perhaps you should consider whether that type of discussion fits in on a list where people are on first name terms, helpfulness and consideration are the order of the day, and secretiveness is generally considered unnecessary. It's only through such an attitude shared by all the listers here that such a high volume list can remain so productive. All the best, Adam On 08/16/2003 11:47 AM message message wrote: I should also inform you that I am writing my own product that includes marketing. It is none of your business what the product is. From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 13:37:43 +0400 There is nothing wonky here apart from your postings. A discussion is going on about verify applications and the consequences. I hardly consider you to be qualified to express an opinion on my posting. To make comments or express opinions about my postings is a qualification you gave yourself but I do not recognise it. From: Alen Ribic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 08:41:45 +0200 Just create a noise box and dump things like this in it. Does the job well. ;) Subjects aint standardised anyway. Some read [OT] other [OFF TOPIC], [???nothing???], etc. I can't really filter this so I just read first 1 or two threads and decide if it's relevant info to the reason I subscribed to this mailinglist. ;) ciao --Alen - Original Message - From: Micael [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 8:34 AM Subject: [OT] RE: J2EE certified This discussion has gotten a little wonky. Let me suggest you add [OT] to this stuff. At 02:09 AM 8/16/2003 +0400, message message wrote: Also if somebody logged on Sun Microsystems' mailing list using tomcat or JBOSS, I guess he/she would be treated some hostility because he could write applications using J2EE without paying for the J2EE compliancy fee. From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 00:14:02 +0400 There was a dispute by IBM over the specification so IBM's websphere 3.5 wasn't j2ee compliant ? From: Brian Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 13:32:47 -0400 The main advantage is marketing. Since only a few apps are verified, you can tell your clients My product is j2ee verified by sun, but company x is not. Who knows what it will do? Not much of an advantage. But remember all the fud that bea threw back when IBM didn't certify their app server? In my opinion it's not that essential, but then one of my current clients is verifying a couple of their major products. BAL From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 19:34:21 +0400 what is the point of verified application ? Assuming you are referring to the verifier tool which comes with the j2ee bundle from java.sun.com From: Brian Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 10:24:55 -0400 They force you to buy their testing prog at $2k
AW: [OT] RE: J2EE certified
I think that Mark was totally aware that you are not a white cause he can easily recognize this cause of your mail. I normally also check my wonderful magic sphere to check that. I read a few of your stuff, and it seems that you are really very impolite. Maybe check your own stuff before blaming other people on the list and come with such bullshit like your last mail. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: message message [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Montag, 18. August 2003 14:52 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: RE: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Who wants to know about your theory about girls or beer. I already you know that the majority of you are Racist , low life scum. From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 16:47:47 +0400 Why not filter you out. Perhaps because you are white. Or perhaps you represent certain interests. From: Mark Galbreath [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 08:05:44 -0400 Just filter out this message message character; he's been argumentative and arrogant since he joined a couple of weeks ago. Mark -Original Message- From: Adam Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 6:08 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Before you guys on this thread go really overboard with tit-for-tat arguments, perhaps you should consider whether that type of discussion fits in on a list where people are on first name terms, helpfulness and consideration are the order of the day, and secretiveness is generally considered unnecessary. It's only through such an attitude shared by all the listers here that such a high volume list can remain so productive. All the best, Adam On 08/16/2003 11:47 AM message message wrote: I should also inform you that I am writing my own product that includes marketing. It is none of your business what the product is. From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 13:37:43 +0400 There is nothing wonky here apart from your postings. A discussion is going on about verify applications and the consequences. I hardly consider you to be qualified to express an opinion on my posting. To make comments or express opinions about my postings is a qualification you gave yourself but I do not recognise it. From: Alen Ribic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 08:41:45 +0200 Just create a noise box and dump things like this in it. Does the job well. ;) Subjects aint standardised anyway. Some read [OT] other [OFF TOPIC], [???nothing???], etc. I can't really filter this so I just read first 1 or two threads and decide if it's relevant info to the reason I subscribed to this mailinglist. ;) ciao --Alen - Original Message - From: Micael [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 8:34 AM Subject: [OT] RE: J2EE certified This discussion has gotten a little wonky. Let me suggest you add [OT] to this stuff. At 02:09 AM 8/16/2003 +0400, message message wrote: Also if somebody logged on Sun Microsystems' mailing list using tomcat or JBOSS, I guess he/she would be treated some hostility because he could write applications using J2EE without paying for the J2EE compliancy fee. From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 00:14:02 +0400 There was a dispute by IBM over the specification so IBM's websphere 3.5 wasn't j2ee compliant ? From: Brian Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 13:32:47 -0400 The main advantage is marketing. Since only a few apps are verified, you can tell your clients My product is j2ee verified by sun, but company x is not. Who knows what it will do? Not much of an advantage. But remember all the fud that bea threw back when IBM didn't certify their app server? In my opinion it's not that essential, but then one of my current clients is verifying a couple of their major products. BAL From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List
Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified
Despite the slightly distasteful reference to the L and R phoneme discrimination in folks who have Oriental languages as there first language, I haven't seen any reason for anyone to make inferences like this. The L R thing was a bit snide, but I doubt was racially motivated. Just chill a bit message, nobody has anything against you, just you came in a bit heavy a few weeks back. I've spat my dummy a few times on the list, and i dare say it will happen again, but there's dummy spitting and just being a t*t. This is a really good group, and you will get good answers if you ask good questions. Why don't you ditch the message message sign up with your name. And start again. If you've problems setting up some of the examples then I'm sure people will be willing to help. Cheers and peaceful salutations Mark On Monday, August 18, 2003, at 01:47 PM, message message wrote: Why not filter you out. Perhaps because you are white. Or perhaps you represent certain interests. From: Mark Galbreath [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 08:05:44 -0400 Just filter out this message message character; he's been argumentative and arrogant since he joined a couple of weeks ago. Mark -Original Message- From: Adam Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 6:08 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Before you guys on this thread go really overboard with tit-for-tat arguments, perhaps you should consider whether that type of discussion fits in on a list where people are on first name terms, helpfulness and consideration are the order of the day, and secretiveness is generally considered unnecessary. It's only through such an attitude shared by all the listers here that such a high volume list can remain so productive. All the best, Adam On 08/16/2003 11:47 AM message message wrote: I should also inform you that I am writing my own product that includes marketing. It is none of your business what the product is. From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 13:37:43 +0400 There is nothing wonky here apart from your postings. A discussion is going on about verify applications and the consequences. I hardly consider you to be qualified to express an opinion on my posting. To make comments or express opinions about my postings is a qualification you gave yourself but I do not recognise it. From: Alen Ribic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 08:41:45 +0200 Just create a noise box and dump things like this in it. Does the job well. ;) Subjects aint standardised anyway. Some read [OT] other [OFF TOPIC], [???nothing???], etc. I can't really filter this so I just read first 1 or two threads and decide if it's relevant info to the reason I subscribed to this mailinglist. ;) ciao --Alen - Original Message - From: Micael [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 8:34 AM Subject: [OT] RE: J2EE certified This discussion has gotten a little wonky. Let me suggest you add [OT] to this stuff. At 02:09 AM 8/16/2003 +0400, message message wrote: Also if somebody logged on Sun Microsystems' mailing list using tomcat or JBOSS, I guess he/she would be treated some hostility because he could write applications using J2EE without paying for the J2EE compliancy fee. From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 00:14:02 +0400 There was a dispute by IBM over the specification so IBM's websphere 3.5 wasn't j2ee compliant ? From: Brian Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 13:32:47 -0400 The main advantage is marketing. Since only a few apps are verified, you can tell your clients My product is j2ee verified by sun, but company x is not. Who knows what it will do? Not much of an advantage. But remember all the fud that bea threw back when IBM didn't certify their app server? In my opinion it's not that essential, but then one of my current clients is verifying a couple of their major products. BAL From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 19:34:21 +0400 what
RE: [OT] RE: J2EE certified
already done. I'd like to see Craig or Ted kick this guy off the list. There is absolutely no excuse for racial slurs or personal attacks. This guy is apparently very disturbed. Mark -Original Message- From: Jeff Kyser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:56 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified 'the majority of you...' ??? setting up message message filter filter now now... -jeff On Monday, August 18, 2003, at 07:51 AM, message message wrote: Who wants to know about your theory about girls or beer. I already you know that the majority of you are Racist , low life scum. From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 16:47:47 +0400 Why not filter you out. Perhaps because you are white. Or perhaps you represent certain interests. From: Mark Galbreath [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 08:05:44 -0400 Just filter out this message message character; he's been argumentative and arrogant since he joined a couple of weeks ago. Mark -Original Message- From: Adam Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 6:08 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Before you guys on this thread go really overboard with tit-for-tat arguments, perhaps you should consider whether that type of discussion fits in on a list where people are on first name terms, helpfulness and consideration are the order of the day, and secretiveness is generally considered unnecessary. It's only through such an attitude shared by all the listers here that such a high volume list can remain so productive. All the best, Adam On 08/16/2003 11:47 AM message message wrote: I should also inform you that I am writing my own product that includes marketing. It is none of your business what the product is. From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 13:37:43 +0400 There is nothing wonky here apart from your postings. A discussion is going on about verify applications and the consequences. I hardly consider you to be qualified to express an opinion on my posting. To make comments or express opinions about my postings is a qualification you gave yourself but I do not recognise it. From: Alen Ribic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 08:41:45 +0200 Just create a noise box and dump things like this in it. Does the job well. ;) Subjects aint standardised anyway. Some read [OT] other [OFF TOPIC], [???nothing???], etc. I can't really filter this so I just read first 1 or two threads and decide if it's relevant info to the reason I subscribed to this mailinglist. ;) ciao --Alen - Original Message - From: Micael [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 8:34 AM Subject: [OT] RE: J2EE certified This discussion has gotten a little wonky. Let me suggest you add [OT] to this stuff. At 02:09 AM 8/16/2003 +0400, message message wrote: Also if somebody logged on Sun Microsystems' mailing list using tomcat or JBOSS, I guess he/she would be treated some hostility because he could write applications using J2EE without paying for the J2EE compliancy fee. From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 00:14:02 +0400 There was a dispute by IBM over the specification so IBM's websphere 3.5 wasn't j2ee compliant ? From: Brian Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 13:32:47 -0400 The main advantage is marketing. Since only a few apps are verified, you can tell your clients My product is j2ee verified by sun, but company x is not. Who knows what it will do? Not much of an advantage. But remember all the fud that bea threw back when IBM didn't certify their app server? In my opinion it's not that essential, but then one of my current clients is verifying a couple of their major products. BAL From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List
Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified
I'd prefer to know the guys name. I wouldn't like to make any judgments about disturbedness, give him a chance. He could have got off to a bad start, been up against the wire and trying to get something working when he started out. And forgot that there are real people at the end of the messages. By the time he got a response the whole dialogue had started. Message, can you stop assuming that we're all white racists that all hate you, and tell us what struts problems your still having? Signing up with your real name and putting a lid on the dummy-spitting could help you solve your problem. Even remaining message message wouldn't be a problem, if you just stop giving it the large one. If the english is a problem please just say so, perhaps an over-reliance on first language idioms makes things a tad tricky to comprehend. So did you get your login app running? If not what's going on with it? Any error messages? Cheers Mark On Monday, August 18, 2003, at 02:15 PM, Mark Galbreath wrote: already done. I'd like to see Craig or Ted kick this guy off the list. There is absolutely no excuse for racial slurs or personal attacks. This guy is apparently very disturbed. Mark -Original Message- From: Jeff Kyser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:56 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified 'the majority of you...' ??? setting up message message filter filter now now... -jeff On Monday, August 18, 2003, at 07:51 AM, message message wrote: Who wants to know about your theory about girls or beer. I already you know that the majority of you are Racist , low life scum. From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 16:47:47 +0400 Why not filter you out. Perhaps because you are white. Or perhaps you represent certain interests. From: Mark Galbreath [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 08:05:44 -0400 Just filter out this message message character; he's been argumentative and arrogant since he joined a couple of weeks ago. Mark -Original Message- From: Adam Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 6:08 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Before you guys on this thread go really overboard with tit-for-tat arguments, perhaps you should consider whether that type of discussion fits in on a list where people are on first name terms, helpfulness and consideration are the order of the day, and secretiveness is generally considered unnecessary. It's only through such an attitude shared by all the listers here that such a high volume list can remain so productive. All the best, Adam On 08/16/2003 11:47 AM message message wrote: I should also inform you that I am writing my own product that includes marketing. It is none of your business what the product is. From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 13:37:43 +0400 There is nothing wonky here apart from your postings. A discussion is going on about verify applications and the consequences. I hardly consider you to be qualified to express an opinion on my posting. To make comments or express opinions about my postings is a qualification you gave yourself but I do not recognise it. From: Alen Ribic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 08:41:45 +0200 Just create a noise box and dump things like this in it. Does the job well. ;) Subjects aint standardised anyway. Some read [OT] other [OFF TOPIC], [???nothing???], etc. I can't really filter this so I just read first 1 or two threads and decide if it's relevant info to the reason I subscribed to this mailinglist. ;) ciao --Alen - Original Message - From: Micael [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 8:34 AM Subject: [OT] RE: J2EE certified This discussion has gotten a little wonky. Let me suggest you add [OT] to this stuff. At 02:09 AM 8/16/2003 +0400, message message wrote: Also if somebody logged on Sun Microsystems' mailing list using tomcat or JBOSS, I guess he/she would be treated some hostility because he could write applications using J2EE without paying for the J2EE compliancy fee. From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 00:14:02 +0400 There was a dispute by IBM over the specification so IBM's websphere 3.5 wasn't j2ee
RE: [OT] RE: J2EE certified
Very diplomatic of you, Mark, but I won't be an apologist for a bigot. Mark -Original Message- From: Mark Lowe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:34 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified I'd prefer to know the guys name. I wouldn't like to make any judgments about disturbedness, give him a chance. He could have got off to a bad start, been up against the wire and trying to get something working when he started out. And forgot that there are real people at the end of the messages. By the time he got a response the whole dialogue had started. Message, can you stop assuming that we're all white racists that all hate you, and tell us what struts problems your still having? Signing up with your real name and putting a lid on the dummy-spitting could help you solve your problem. Even remaining message message wouldn't be a problem, if you just stop giving it the large one. If the english is a problem please just say so, perhaps an over-reliance on first language idioms makes things a tad tricky to comprehend. So did you get your login app running? If not what's going on with it? Any error messages? Cheers Mark On Monday, August 18, 2003, at 02:15 PM, Mark Galbreath wrote: already done. I'd like to see Craig or Ted kick this guy off the list. There is absolutely no excuse for racial slurs or personal attacks. This guy is apparently very disturbed. Mark -Original Message- From: Jeff Kyser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:56 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified 'the majority of you...' ??? setting up message message filter filter now now... -jeff On Monday, August 18, 2003, at 07:51 AM, message message wrote: Who wants to know about your theory about girls or beer. I already you know that the majority of you are Racist , low life scum. From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 16:47:47 +0400 Why not filter you out. Perhaps because you are white. Or perhaps you represent certain interests. From: Mark Galbreath [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 08:05:44 -0400 Just filter out this message message character; he's been argumentative and arrogant since he joined a couple of weeks ago. Mark -Original Message- From: Adam Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 6:08 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Before you guys on this thread go really overboard with tit-for-tat arguments, perhaps you should consider whether that type of discussion fits in on a list where people are on first name terms, helpfulness and consideration are the order of the day, and secretiveness is generally considered unnecessary. It's only through such an attitude shared by all the listers here that such a high volume list can remain so productive. All the best, Adam On 08/16/2003 11:47 AM message message wrote: I should also inform you that I am writing my own product that includes marketing. It is none of your business what the product is. From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 13:37:43 +0400 There is nothing wonky here apart from your postings. A discussion is going on about verify applications and the consequences. I hardly consider you to be qualified to express an opinion on my posting. To make comments or express opinions about my postings is a qualification you gave yourself but I do not recognise it. From: Alen Ribic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 08:41:45 +0200 Just create a noise box and dump things like this in it. Does the job well. ;) Subjects aint standardised anyway. Some read [OT] other [OFF TOPIC], [???nothing???], etc. I can't really filter this so I just read first 1 or two threads and decide if it's relevant info to the reason I subscribed to this mailinglist. ;) ciao --Alen - Original Message - From: Micael [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 8:34 AM Subject: [OT] RE: J2EE certified This discussion has gotten a little wonky. Let me suggest you add [OT] to this stuff. At 02:09 AM 8/16/2003 +0400, message message wrote: Also if somebody logged on Sun Microsystems' mailing list using tomcat or JBOSS, I guess he
[OT] RE: J2EE certified
This discussion has gotten a little wonky. Let me suggest you add [OT] to this stuff. At 02:09 AM 8/16/2003 +0400, message message wrote: Also if somebody logged on Sun Microsystems' mailing list using tomcat or JBOSS, I guess he/she would be treated some hostility because he could write applications using J2EE without paying for the J2EE compliancy fee. From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 00:14:02 +0400 There was a dispute by IBM over the specification so IBM's websphere 3.5 wasn't j2ee compliant ? From: Brian Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 13:32:47 -0400 The main advantage is marketing. Since only a few apps are verified, you can tell your clients My product is j2ee verified by sun, but company x is not. Who knows what it will do? Not much of an advantage. But remember all the fud that bea threw back when IBM didn't certify their app server? In my opinion it's not that essential, but then one of my current clients is verifying a couple of their major products. BAL From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 19:34:21 +0400 what is the point of verified application ? Assuming you are referring to the verifier tool which comes with the j2ee bundle from java.sun.com From: Brian Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 10:24:55 -0400 They force you to buy their testing prog at $2k. The bare minimum to verify your app as a j2ee app is $17k for the first year, $15k for each additional. They'll also charge $10k if you need any support during the verification process. It's just a way for sun to make money. Sun doesn't verify your verification so anyone can pay $17k, lie on the checklist and get a sun verified product. BAL From: Bill Chmura [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 01:53:38 -0400 Off that page there is a non-working link to a free trial version. Maybe you can claim your app passed in the free trial version :) -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 11:11 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: J2EE certified I guess since it is only verifying the war/ear, the thousands $$$ are not worth it. Plus, less than 10 products are j2ee verified ( http://java.sun.com/j2ee/verified/thirdparty.html ). I was 'told' by a colleague to get my app 'J2EE certified'. Never heard of a web application getting certified which was why I asked it here, since many j2ee experts are lurking in here. :) Thanks for the responses. Amin -Original Message- From: Adam Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 5:16 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: J2EE certified Ah, you meant verified, not certified! Well why didn't you say? ;) I guess Sun have to make money somehow - although at a charge of 15 grand per year, I think I'll skip the Verified Designation for my j2ee app. On 08/14/2003 05:52 AM Thamarajah Dharma wrote: http://java.sun.com/j2ee/verified/avk_enterprise.html -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 8:26 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: OT: J2EE certified Simple question, is there or is there not a certification for a J2EE web app? Struts question, I'm getting this error, nothing else. In tomcat, there's the Servlet action is currently unavailable error. Any ideas? --- error javax.servlet.UnavailableException: Parsing error processing resource path at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.handleConfigException(A ctionServl et.java:1035) at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.parseModuleConfigFile(A ctionServl et.java:1014) at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.initModuleConfig(Action Servlet.ja va:955) at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.init(ActionServlet. java:470) at javax.servlet.GenericServlet.init(GenericServlet.java:256) - snip - Amin -Original Message- From: Adam L [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:22 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List
Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified
Just create a noise box and dump things like this in it. Does the job well. ;) Subjects aint standardised anyway. Some read [OT] other [OFF TOPIC], [???nothing???], etc. I can't really filter this so I just read first 1 or two threads and decide if it's relevant info to the reason I subscribed to this mailinglist. ;) ciao --Alen - Original Message - From: Micael [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 8:34 AM Subject: [OT] RE: J2EE certified This discussion has gotten a little wonky. Let me suggest you add [OT] to this stuff. At 02:09 AM 8/16/2003 +0400, message message wrote: Also if somebody logged on Sun Microsystems' mailing list using tomcat or JBOSS, I guess he/she would be treated some hostility because he could write applications using J2EE without paying for the J2EE compliancy fee. From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 00:14:02 +0400 There was a dispute by IBM over the specification so IBM's websphere 3.5 wasn't j2ee compliant ? From: Brian Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 13:32:47 -0400 The main advantage is marketing. Since only a few apps are verified, you can tell your clients My product is j2ee verified by sun, but company x is not. Who knows what it will do? Not much of an advantage. But remember all the fud that bea threw back when IBM didn't certify their app server? In my opinion it's not that essential, but then one of my current clients is verifying a couple of their major products. BAL From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 19:34:21 +0400 what is the point of verified application ? Assuming you are referring to the verifier tool which comes with the j2ee bundle from java.sun.com From: Brian Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 10:24:55 -0400 They force you to buy their testing prog at $2k. The bare minimum to verify your app as a j2ee app is $17k for the first year, $15k for each additional. They'll also charge $10k if you need any support during the verification process. It's just a way for sun to make money. Sun doesn't verify your verification so anyone can pay $17k, lie on the checklist and get a sun verified product. BAL From: Bill Chmura [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 01:53:38 -0400 Off that page there is a non-working link to a free trial version. Maybe you can claim your app passed in the free trial version :) -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 11:11 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: J2EE certified I guess since it is only verifying the war/ear, the thousands $$$ are not worth it. Plus, less than 10 products are j2ee verified ( http://java.sun.com/j2ee/verified/thirdparty.html ). I was 'told' by a colleague to get my app 'J2EE certified'. Never heard of a web application getting certified which was why I asked it here, since many j2ee experts are lurking in here. :) Thanks for the responses. Amin -Original Message- From: Adam Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 5:16 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: J2EE certified Ah, you meant verified, not certified! Well why didn't you say? ;) I guess Sun have to make money somehow - although at a charge of 15 grand per year, I think I'll skip the Verified Designation for my j2ee app. On 08/14/2003 05:52 AM Thamarajah Dharma wrote: http://java.sun.com/j2ee/verified/avk_enterprise.html -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 8:26 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: OT: J2EE certified Simple question, is there or is there not a certification for a J2EE web app? Struts question, I'm getting this error, nothing else. In tomcat, there's the Servlet action is currently unavailable error. Any ideas? --- error javax.servlet.UnavailableException: Parsing error
Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified
There is nothing wonky here apart from your postings. A discussion is going on about verify applications and the consequences. I hardly consider you to be qualified to express an opinion on my posting. To make comments or express opinions about my postings is a qualification you gave yourself but I do not recognise it. From: Alen Ribic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 08:41:45 +0200 Just create a noise box and dump things like this in it. Does the job well. ;) Subjects aint standardised anyway. Some read [OT] other [OFF TOPIC], [???nothing???], etc. I can't really filter this so I just read first 1 or two threads and decide if it's relevant info to the reason I subscribed to this mailinglist. ;) ciao --Alen - Original Message - From: Micael [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 8:34 AM Subject: [OT] RE: J2EE certified This discussion has gotten a little wonky. Let me suggest you add [OT] to this stuff. At 02:09 AM 8/16/2003 +0400, message message wrote: Also if somebody logged on Sun Microsystems' mailing list using tomcat or JBOSS, I guess he/she would be treated some hostility because he could write applications using J2EE without paying for the J2EE compliancy fee. From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 00:14:02 +0400 There was a dispute by IBM over the specification so IBM's websphere 3.5 wasn't j2ee compliant ? From: Brian Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 13:32:47 -0400 The main advantage is marketing. Since only a few apps are verified, you can tell your clients My product is j2ee verified by sun, but company x is not. Who knows what it will do? Not much of an advantage. But remember all the fud that bea threw back when IBM didn't certify their app server? In my opinion it's not that essential, but then one of my current clients is verifying a couple of their major products. BAL From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 19:34:21 +0400 what is the point of verified application ? Assuming you are referring to the verifier tool which comes with the j2ee bundle from java.sun.com From: Brian Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 10:24:55 -0400 They force you to buy their testing prog at $2k. The bare minimum to verify your app as a j2ee app is $17k for the first year, $15k for each additional. They'll also charge $10k if you need any support during the verification process. It's just a way for sun to make money. Sun doesn't verify your verification so anyone can pay $17k, lie on the checklist and get a sun verified product. BAL From: Bill Chmura [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 01:53:38 -0400 Off that page there is a non-working link to a free trial version. Maybe you can claim your app passed in the free trial version :) -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 11:11 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: J2EE certified I guess since it is only verifying the war/ear, the thousands $$$ are not worth it. Plus, less than 10 products are j2ee verified ( http://java.sun.com/j2ee/verified/thirdparty.html ). I was 'told' by a colleague to get my app 'J2EE certified'. Never heard of a web application getting certified which was why I asked it here, since many j2ee experts are lurking in here. :) Thanks for the responses. Amin -Original Message- From: Adam Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 5:16 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: J2EE certified Ah, you meant verified, not certified! Well why didn't you say? ;) I guess Sun have to make money somehow - although at a charge of 15 grand per year, I think I'll skip the Verified Designation for my j2ee app. On 08/14/2003 05:52 AM Thamarajah Dharma wrote: http://java.sun.com/j2ee/verified/avk_enterprise.html -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL
Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified
I should also inform you that I am writing my own product that includes marketing. It is none of your business what the product is. From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 13:37:43 +0400 There is nothing wonky here apart from your postings. A discussion is going on about verify applications and the consequences. I hardly consider you to be qualified to express an opinion on my posting. To make comments or express opinions about my postings is a qualification you gave yourself but I do not recognise it. From: Alen Ribic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 08:41:45 +0200 Just create a noise box and dump things like this in it. Does the job well. ;) Subjects aint standardised anyway. Some read [OT] other [OFF TOPIC], [???nothing???], etc. I can't really filter this so I just read first 1 or two threads and decide if it's relevant info to the reason I subscribed to this mailinglist. ;) ciao --Alen - Original Message - From: Micael [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 8:34 AM Subject: [OT] RE: J2EE certified This discussion has gotten a little wonky. Let me suggest you add [OT] to this stuff. At 02:09 AM 8/16/2003 +0400, message message wrote: Also if somebody logged on Sun Microsystems' mailing list using tomcat or JBOSS, I guess he/she would be treated some hostility because he could write applications using J2EE without paying for the J2EE compliancy fee. From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 00:14:02 +0400 There was a dispute by IBM over the specification so IBM's websphere 3.5 wasn't j2ee compliant ? From: Brian Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 13:32:47 -0400 The main advantage is marketing. Since only a few apps are verified, you can tell your clients My product is j2ee verified by sun, but company x is not. Who knows what it will do? Not much of an advantage. But remember all the fud that bea threw back when IBM didn't certify their app server? In my opinion it's not that essential, but then one of my current clients is verifying a couple of their major products. BAL From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 19:34:21 +0400 what is the point of verified application ? Assuming you are referring to the verifier tool which comes with the j2ee bundle from java.sun.com From: Brian Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 10:24:55 -0400 They force you to buy their testing prog at $2k. The bare minimum to verify your app as a j2ee app is $17k for the first year, $15k for each additional. They'll also charge $10k if you need any support during the verification process. It's just a way for sun to make money. Sun doesn't verify your verification so anyone can pay $17k, lie on the checklist and get a sun verified product. BAL From: Bill Chmura [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 01:53:38 -0400 Off that page there is a non-working link to a free trial version. Maybe you can claim your app passed in the free trial version :) -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 11:11 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: J2EE certified I guess since it is only verifying the war/ear, the thousands $$$ are not worth it. Plus, less than 10 products are j2ee verified ( http://java.sun.com/j2ee/verified/thirdparty.html ). I was 'told' by a colleague to get my app 'J2EE certified'. Never heard of a web application getting certified which was why I asked it here, since many j2ee experts are lurking in here. :) Thanks for the responses. Amin -Original Message- From: Adam Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 5:16 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: J2EE certified Ah, you meant verified, not certified! Well why didn't you say? ;) I guess Sun have to make money somehow - although
Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified
Before you guys on this thread go really overboard with tit-for-tat arguments, perhaps you should consider whether that type of discussion fits in on a list where people are on first name terms, helpfulness and consideration are the order of the day, and secretiveness is generally considered unnecessary. It's only through such an attitude shared by all the listers here that such a high volume list can remain so productive. All the best, Adam On 08/16/2003 11:47 AM message message wrote: I should also inform you that I am writing my own product that includes marketing. It is none of your business what the product is. From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 13:37:43 +0400 There is nothing wonky here apart from your postings. A discussion is going on about verify applications and the consequences. I hardly consider you to be qualified to express an opinion on my posting. To make comments or express opinions about my postings is a qualification you gave yourself but I do not recognise it. From: Alen Ribic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 08:41:45 +0200 Just create a noise box and dump things like this in it. Does the job well. ;) Subjects aint standardised anyway. Some read [OT] other [OFF TOPIC], [???nothing???], etc. I can't really filter this so I just read first 1 or two threads and decide if it's relevant info to the reason I subscribed to this mailinglist. ;) ciao --Alen - Original Message - From: Micael [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 8:34 AM Subject: [OT] RE: J2EE certified This discussion has gotten a little wonky. Let me suggest you add [OT] to this stuff. At 02:09 AM 8/16/2003 +0400, message message wrote: Also if somebody logged on Sun Microsystems' mailing list using tomcat or JBOSS, I guess he/she would be treated some hostility because he could write applications using J2EE without paying for the J2EE compliancy fee. From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 00:14:02 +0400 There was a dispute by IBM over the specification so IBM's websphere 3.5 wasn't j2ee compliant ? From: Brian Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 13:32:47 -0400 The main advantage is marketing. Since only a few apps are verified, you can tell your clients My product is j2ee verified by sun, but company x is not. Who knows what it will do? Not much of an advantage. But remember all the fud that bea threw back when IBM didn't certify their app server? In my opinion it's not that essential, but then one of my current clients is verifying a couple of their major products. BAL From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 19:34:21 +0400 what is the point of verified application ? Assuming you are referring to the verifier tool which comes with the j2ee bundle from java.sun.com From: Brian Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 10:24:55 -0400 They force you to buy their testing prog at $2k. The bare minimum to verify your app as a j2ee app is $17k for the first year, $15k for each additional. They'll also charge $10k if you need any support during the verification process. It's just a way for sun to make money. Sun doesn't verify your verification so anyone can pay $17k, lie on the checklist and get a sun verified product. BAL From: Bill Chmura [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 01:53:38 -0400 Off that page there is a non-working link to a free trial version. Maybe you can claim your app passed in the free trial version :) -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 11:11 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: J2EE certified I guess since it is only verifying the war/ear, the thousands $$$ are not worth it. Plus, less than 10 products are j2ee verified ( http://java.sun.com/j2ee/verified/thirdparty.html ). I was 'told' by a colleague to get my app 'J2EE certified'. Never heard of a web
Re: [OT] RE: J2EE certified
On Sat, 16 Aug 2003, Adam Hardy wrote: Before you guys on this thread go really overboard with tit-for-tat arguments, perhaps you should consider whether that type of discussion fits in on a list where people are on first name terms, helpfulness and consideration are the order of the day, and secretiveness is generally considered unnecessary. It's only through such an attitude shared by all the listers here that such a high volume list can remain so productive. Well said. All the best, Adam Craig - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: J2EE certified
It is in your own benefit to do the J2EE tutorials. I don't think it is very clever to send messages with your opinions with out actually doing the tutorials. Struts being model neutral means you can also use it with EJBs/JMS etc. Going around reading books from o'reillys and mastering EJBs etc. will get you now where apart from wasting your time money, furthermore you will continue to form ill - informed opinions based on ill advised books. From: Bill Chmura [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 01:53:38 -0400 Off that page there is a non-working link to a free trial version. Maybe you can claim your app passed in the free trial version :) -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 11:11 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: J2EE certified I guess since it is only verifying the war/ear, the thousands $$$ are not worth it. Plus, less than 10 products are j2ee verified ( http://java.sun.com/j2ee/verified/thirdparty.html ). I was 'told' by a colleague to get my app 'J2EE certified'. Never heard of a web application getting certified which was why I asked it here, since many j2ee experts are lurking in here. :) Thanks for the responses. Amin -Original Message- From: Adam Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 5:16 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: J2EE certified Ah, you meant verified, not certified! Well why didn't you say? ;) I guess Sun have to make money somehow - although at a charge of 15 grand per year, I think I'll skip the Verified Designation for my j2ee app. On 08/14/2003 05:52 AM Thamarajah Dharma wrote: http://java.sun.com/j2ee/verified/avk_enterprise.html -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 8:26 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: OT: J2EE certified Simple question, is there or is there not a certification for a J2EE web app? Struts question, I'm getting this error, nothing else. In tomcat, there's the Servlet action is currently unavailable error. Any ideas? --- error javax.servlet.UnavailableException: Parsing error processing resource path at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.handleConfigException(A ctionServl et.java:1035) at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.parseModuleConfigFile(A ctionServl et.java:1014) at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.initModuleConfig(Action Servlet.ja va:955) at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.init(ActionServlet. java:470) at javax.servlet.GenericServlet.init(GenericServlet.java:256) - snip - Amin -Original Message- From: Adam L [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:22 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: J2EE certified J2EE encompasses a lot more than just a web application. JMS, EJB, XML processing/manipulation, SOAP, CORBA / IDL, JavaMail.. just to begin with. - Original Message - From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:14 PM Subject: RE: J2EE certified Struts is the de facto framework for J2EE. Does this mean my app using Struts is J2EE certified? Or is the such a thing as J2EE certified web app. Plus, not all question on the list are about struts -Original Message- From: Shane Mingins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:03 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: J2EE certified So where's the Struts question? -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 14 August 2003 2:01 p.m. To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: J2EE certified I meant getting a web application certified -Original Message- From: Raghu.Ramakrishnan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:59 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: J2EE certified Amin You can take the SCWCD (Sun Certified Web Component Developer), its for JSP and Servlets. You have to have JCP to take this exam. Raghu -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 11:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: J2EE
RE: J2EE certified
They force you to buy their testing prog at $2k. The bare minimum to verify your app as a j2ee app is $17k for the first year, $15k for each additional. They'll also charge $10k if you need any support during the verification process. It's just a way for sun to make money. Sun doesn't verify your verification so anyone can pay $17k, lie on the checklist and get a sun verified product. BAL From: Bill Chmura [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 01:53:38 -0400 Off that page there is a non-working link to a free trial version. Maybe you can claim your app passed in the free trial version :) -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 11:11 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: J2EE certified I guess since it is only verifying the war/ear, the thousands $$$ are not worth it. Plus, less than 10 products are j2ee verified ( http://java.sun.com/j2ee/verified/thirdparty.html ). I was 'told' by a colleague to get my app 'J2EE certified'. Never heard of a web application getting certified which was why I asked it here, since many j2ee experts are lurking in here. :) Thanks for the responses. Amin -Original Message- From: Adam Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 5:16 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: J2EE certified Ah, you meant verified, not certified! Well why didn't you say? ;) I guess Sun have to make money somehow - although at a charge of 15 grand per year, I think I'll skip the Verified Designation for my j2ee app. On 08/14/2003 05:52 AM Thamarajah Dharma wrote: http://java.sun.com/j2ee/verified/avk_enterprise.html -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 8:26 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: OT: J2EE certified Simple question, is there or is there not a certification for a J2EE web app? Struts question, I'm getting this error, nothing else. In tomcat, there's the Servlet action is currently unavailable error. Any ideas? --- error javax.servlet.UnavailableException: Parsing error processing resource path at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.handleConfigException(A ctionServl et.java:1035) at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.parseModuleConfigFile(A ctionServl et.java:1014) at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.initModuleConfig(Action Servlet.ja va:955) at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.init(ActionServlet. java:470) at javax.servlet.GenericServlet.init(GenericServlet.java:256) - snip - Amin -Original Message- From: Adam L [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:22 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: J2EE certified J2EE encompasses a lot more than just a web application. JMS, EJB, XML processing/manipulation, SOAP, CORBA / IDL, JavaMail.. just to begin with. - Original Message - From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:14 PM Subject: RE: J2EE certified Struts is the de facto framework for J2EE. Does this mean my app using Struts is J2EE certified? Or is the such a thing as J2EE certified web app. Plus, not all question on the list are about struts -Original Message- From: Shane Mingins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:03 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: J2EE certified So where's the Struts question? -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 14 August 2003 2:01 p.m. To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: J2EE certified I meant getting a web application certified -Original Message- From: Raghu.Ramakrishnan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:59 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: J2EE certified Amin You can take the SCWCD (Sun Certified Web Component Developer), its for JSP and Servlets. You have to have JCP to take this exam. Raghu -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 11:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: J2EE certified A colleague mentioned to me
RE: J2EE certified
what is the point of verified application ? Assuming you are referring to the verifier tool which comes with the j2ee bundle from java.sun.com From: Brian Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 10:24:55 -0400 They force you to buy their testing prog at $2k. The bare minimum to verify your app as a j2ee app is $17k for the first year, $15k for each additional. They'll also charge $10k if you need any support during the verification process. It's just a way for sun to make money. Sun doesn't verify your verification so anyone can pay $17k, lie on the checklist and get a sun verified product. BAL From: Bill Chmura [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 01:53:38 -0400 Off that page there is a non-working link to a free trial version. Maybe you can claim your app passed in the free trial version :) -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 11:11 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: J2EE certified I guess since it is only verifying the war/ear, the thousands $$$ are not worth it. Plus, less than 10 products are j2ee verified ( http://java.sun.com/j2ee/verified/thirdparty.html ). I was 'told' by a colleague to get my app 'J2EE certified'. Never heard of a web application getting certified which was why I asked it here, since many j2ee experts are lurking in here. :) Thanks for the responses. Amin -Original Message- From: Adam Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 5:16 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: J2EE certified Ah, you meant verified, not certified! Well why didn't you say? ;) I guess Sun have to make money somehow - although at a charge of 15 grand per year, I think I'll skip the Verified Designation for my j2ee app. On 08/14/2003 05:52 AM Thamarajah Dharma wrote: http://java.sun.com/j2ee/verified/avk_enterprise.html -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 8:26 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: OT: J2EE certified Simple question, is there or is there not a certification for a J2EE web app? Struts question, I'm getting this error, nothing else. In tomcat, there's the Servlet action is currently unavailable error. Any ideas? --- error javax.servlet.UnavailableException: Parsing error processing resource path at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.handleConfigException(A ctionServl et.java:1035) at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.parseModuleConfigFile(A ctionServl et.java:1014) at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.initModuleConfig(Action Servlet.ja va:955) at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.init(ActionServlet. java:470) at javax.servlet.GenericServlet.init(GenericServlet.java:256) - snip - Amin -Original Message- From: Adam L [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:22 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: J2EE certified J2EE encompasses a lot more than just a web application. JMS, EJB, XML processing/manipulation, SOAP, CORBA / IDL, JavaMail.. just to begin with. - Original Message - From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:14 PM Subject: RE: J2EE certified Struts is the de facto framework for J2EE. Does this mean my app using Struts is J2EE certified? Or is the such a thing as J2EE certified web app. Plus, not all question on the list are about struts -Original Message- From: Shane Mingins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:03 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: J2EE certified So where's the Struts question? -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 14 August 2003 2:01 p.m. To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: J2EE certified I meant getting a web application certified -Original Message- From: Raghu.Ramakrishnan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:59 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: J2EE certified Amin You can take the SCWCD (Sun Certified Web Component
RE: J2EE certified
The main advantage is marketing. Since only a few apps are verified, you can tell your clients My product is j2ee verified by sun, but company x is not. Who knows what it will do? Not much of an advantage. But remember all the fud that bea threw back when IBM didn't certify their app server? In my opinion it's not that essential, but then one of my current clients is verifying a couple of their major products. BAL From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 19:34:21 +0400 what is the point of verified application ? Assuming you are referring to the verifier tool which comes with the j2ee bundle from java.sun.com From: Brian Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 10:24:55 -0400 They force you to buy their testing prog at $2k. The bare minimum to verify your app as a j2ee app is $17k for the first year, $15k for each additional. They'll also charge $10k if you need any support during the verification process. It's just a way for sun to make money. Sun doesn't verify your verification so anyone can pay $17k, lie on the checklist and get a sun verified product. BAL From: Bill Chmura [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 01:53:38 -0400 Off that page there is a non-working link to a free trial version. Maybe you can claim your app passed in the free trial version :) -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 11:11 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: J2EE certified I guess since it is only verifying the war/ear, the thousands $$$ are not worth it. Plus, less than 10 products are j2ee verified ( http://java.sun.com/j2ee/verified/thirdparty.html ). I was 'told' by a colleague to get my app 'J2EE certified'. Never heard of a web application getting certified which was why I asked it here, since many j2ee experts are lurking in here. :) Thanks for the responses. Amin -Original Message- From: Adam Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 5:16 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: J2EE certified Ah, you meant verified, not certified! Well why didn't you say? ;) I guess Sun have to make money somehow - although at a charge of 15 grand per year, I think I'll skip the Verified Designation for my j2ee app. On 08/14/2003 05:52 AM Thamarajah Dharma wrote: http://java.sun.com/j2ee/verified/avk_enterprise.html -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 8:26 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: OT: J2EE certified Simple question, is there or is there not a certification for a J2EE web app? Struts question, I'm getting this error, nothing else. In tomcat, there's the Servlet action is currently unavailable error. Any ideas? --- error javax.servlet.UnavailableException: Parsing error processing resource path at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.handleConfigException(A ctionServl et.java:1035) at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.parseModuleConfigFile(A ctionServl et.java:1014) at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.initModuleConfig(Action Servlet.ja va:955) at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.init(ActionServlet. java:470) at javax.servlet.GenericServlet.init(GenericServlet.java:256) - snip - Amin -Original Message- From: Adam L [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:22 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: J2EE certified J2EE encompasses a lot more than just a web application. JMS, EJB, XML processing/manipulation, SOAP, CORBA / IDL, JavaMail.. just to begin with. - Original Message - From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:14 PM Subject: RE: J2EE certified Struts is the de facto framework for J2EE. Does this mean my app using Struts is J2EE certified? Or is the such a thing as J2EE certified web app. Plus, not all question on the list are about struts -Original Message- From: Shane Mingins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:03 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List
RE: J2EE certified
There was a dispute by IBM over the specification so IBM's websphere 3.5 wasn't j2ee compliant ? From: Brian Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 13:32:47 -0400 The main advantage is marketing. Since only a few apps are verified, you can tell your clients My product is j2ee verified by sun, but company x is not. Who knows what it will do? Not much of an advantage. But remember all the fud that bea threw back when IBM didn't certify their app server? In my opinion it's not that essential, but then one of my current clients is verifying a couple of their major products. BAL From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 19:34:21 +0400 what is the point of verified application ? Assuming you are referring to the verifier tool which comes with the j2ee bundle from java.sun.com From: Brian Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 10:24:55 -0400 They force you to buy their testing prog at $2k. The bare minimum to verify your app as a j2ee app is $17k for the first year, $15k for each additional. They'll also charge $10k if you need any support during the verification process. It's just a way for sun to make money. Sun doesn't verify your verification so anyone can pay $17k, lie on the checklist and get a sun verified product. BAL From: Bill Chmura [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 01:53:38 -0400 Off that page there is a non-working link to a free trial version. Maybe you can claim your app passed in the free trial version :) -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 11:11 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: J2EE certified I guess since it is only verifying the war/ear, the thousands $$$ are not worth it. Plus, less than 10 products are j2ee verified ( http://java.sun.com/j2ee/verified/thirdparty.html ). I was 'told' by a colleague to get my app 'J2EE certified'. Never heard of a web application getting certified which was why I asked it here, since many j2ee experts are lurking in here. :) Thanks for the responses. Amin -Original Message- From: Adam Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 5:16 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: J2EE certified Ah, you meant verified, not certified! Well why didn't you say? ;) I guess Sun have to make money somehow - although at a charge of 15 grand per year, I think I'll skip the Verified Designation for my j2ee app. On 08/14/2003 05:52 AM Thamarajah Dharma wrote: http://java.sun.com/j2ee/verified/avk_enterprise.html -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 8:26 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: OT: J2EE certified Simple question, is there or is there not a certification for a J2EE web app? Struts question, I'm getting this error, nothing else. In tomcat, there's the Servlet action is currently unavailable error. Any ideas? --- error javax.servlet.UnavailableException: Parsing error processing resource path at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.handleConfigException(A ctionServl et.java:1035) at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.parseModuleConfigFile(A ctionServl et.java:1014) at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.initModuleConfig(Action Servlet.ja va:955) at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.init(ActionServlet. java:470) at javax.servlet.GenericServlet.init(GenericServlet.java:256) - snip - Amin -Original Message- From: Adam L [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:22 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: J2EE certified J2EE encompasses a lot more than just a web application. JMS, EJB, XML processing/manipulation, SOAP, CORBA / IDL, JavaMail.. just to begin with. - Original Message - From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:14 PM Subject: RE: J2EE certified Struts is the de facto framework for J2EE. Does this mean my app using Struts is J2EE certified
RE: J2EE certified
Also if somebody logged on Sun Microsystems' mailing list using tomcat or JBOSS, I guess he/she would be treated some hostility because he could write applications using J2EE without paying for the J2EE compliancy fee. From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 00:14:02 +0400 There was a dispute by IBM over the specification so IBM's websphere 3.5 wasn't j2ee compliant ? From: Brian Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 13:32:47 -0400 The main advantage is marketing. Since only a few apps are verified, you can tell your clients My product is j2ee verified by sun, but company x is not. Who knows what it will do? Not much of an advantage. But remember all the fud that bea threw back when IBM didn't certify their app server? In my opinion it's not that essential, but then one of my current clients is verifying a couple of their major products. BAL From: message message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 19:34:21 +0400 what is the point of verified application ? Assuming you are referring to the verifier tool which comes with the j2ee bundle from java.sun.com From: Brian Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 10:24:55 -0400 They force you to buy their testing prog at $2k. The bare minimum to verify your app as a j2ee app is $17k for the first year, $15k for each additional. They'll also charge $10k if you need any support during the verification process. It's just a way for sun to make money. Sun doesn't verify your verification so anyone can pay $17k, lie on the checklist and get a sun verified product. BAL From: Bill Chmura [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 01:53:38 -0400 Off that page there is a non-working link to a free trial version. Maybe you can claim your app passed in the free trial version :) -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 11:11 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: J2EE certified I guess since it is only verifying the war/ear, the thousands $$$ are not worth it. Plus, less than 10 products are j2ee verified ( http://java.sun.com/j2ee/verified/thirdparty.html ). I was 'told' by a colleague to get my app 'J2EE certified'. Never heard of a web application getting certified which was why I asked it here, since many j2ee experts are lurking in here. :) Thanks for the responses. Amin -Original Message- From: Adam Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 5:16 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: J2EE certified Ah, you meant verified, not certified! Well why didn't you say? ;) I guess Sun have to make money somehow - although at a charge of 15 grand per year, I think I'll skip the Verified Designation for my j2ee app. On 08/14/2003 05:52 AM Thamarajah Dharma wrote: http://java.sun.com/j2ee/verified/avk_enterprise.html -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 8:26 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: OT: J2EE certified Simple question, is there or is there not a certification for a J2EE web app? Struts question, I'm getting this error, nothing else. In tomcat, there's the Servlet action is currently unavailable error. Any ideas? --- error javax.servlet.UnavailableException: Parsing error processing resource path at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.handleConfigException(A ctionServl et.java:1035) at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.parseModuleConfigFile(A ctionServl et.java:1014) at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.initModuleConfig(Action Servlet.ja va:955) at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.init(ActionServlet. java:470) at javax.servlet.GenericServlet.init(GenericServlet.java:256) - snip - Amin -Original Message- From: Adam L [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:22 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: J2EE certified J2EE encompasses a lot more than just a web application. JMS, EJB, XML processing/manipulation, SOAP, CORBA
RE: J2EE certified
Amin You can take the SCWCD (Sun Certified Web Component Developer), its for JSP and Servlets. You have to have JCP to take this exam. Raghu -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 11:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: J2EE certified A colleague mentioned to me something about getting J2EE certified. I could only find getting an application server certified not the application. Anyone knows how to get a web application J2EE certified or is there a certification for Java web apps? Amin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: J2EE certified [Off-Topic]
He was referring to the Verifier tool AKA write once run anywhere. From: Mainguy, Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified [Off-Topic] Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 09:15:42 -0400 I'll certify it for $1000 -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 12:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: J2EE certified A colleague mentioned to me something about getting J2EE certified. I could only find getting an application server certified not the application. Anyone knows how to get a web application J2EE certified or is there a certification for Java web apps? Amin This message and its contents (to include attachments) are the property of Kmart Corporation (Kmart) and may contain confidential and proprietary information. You are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on information contained herein is strictly prohibited. Unauthorized use of information contained herein may subject you to civil and criminal prosecution and penalties. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message immediately. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: J2EE certified
I meant getting a web application certified -Original Message- From: Raghu.Ramakrishnan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:59 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: J2EE certified Amin You can take the SCWCD (Sun Certified Web Component Developer), its for JSP and Servlets. You have to have JCP to take this exam. Raghu -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 11:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: J2EE certified A colleague mentioned to me something about getting J2EE certified. I could only find getting an application server certified not the application. Anyone knows how to get a web application J2EE certified or is there a certification for Java web apps? Amin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: J2EE certified
It's filed under URGENT This list is about using Struts. Yes, Struts is built on Java technology. Sun is the producer of Java. They've got all the info you could ever want about Java, and associated certifications, and forums to chat with other java dorks about Java in general, and various technology aspects. cruise on over to java.sun.com and check it out. don't mean to be a prick or sound rude.. but, c'mon. all these hourly messages about nothing to do with Struts.. lots of URGENT!! when it's just a simple question that could've been answered by reading the docs (and apparently isn't THAT urgent after all). this list is way too busy because of all the way OT posts. learn to read the docs, manuals, list archives. and behold the power which is Google.com. /rant - Original Message - From: Shane Mingins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:02 PM Subject: RE: J2EE certified So where's the Struts question? -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 14 August 2003 2:01 p.m. To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: J2EE certified I meant getting a web application certified -Original Message- From: Raghu.Ramakrishnan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:59 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: J2EE certified Amin You can take the SCWCD (Sun Certified Web Component Developer), its for JSP and Servlets. You have to have JCP to take this exam. Raghu -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 11:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: J2EE certified A colleague mentioned to me something about getting J2EE certified. I could only find getting an application server certified not the application. Anyone knows how to get a web application J2EE certified or is there a certification for Java web apps? Amin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: J2EE certified
Struts is the de facto framework for J2EE. Does this mean my app using Struts is J2EE certified? Or is the such a thing as J2EE certified web app. Plus, not all question on the list are about struts -Original Message- From: Shane Mingins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:03 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: J2EE certified So where's the Struts question? -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 14 August 2003 2:01 p.m. To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: J2EE certified I meant getting a web application certified -Original Message- From: Raghu.Ramakrishnan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:59 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: J2EE certified Amin You can take the SCWCD (Sun Certified Web Component Developer), its for JSP and Servlets. You have to have JCP to take this exam. Raghu -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 11:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: J2EE certified A colleague mentioned to me something about getting J2EE certified. I could only find getting an application server certified not the application. Anyone knows how to get a web application J2EE certified or is there a certification for Java web apps? Amin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: J2EE certified
So where's the Struts question? -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 14 August 2003 2:01 p.m. To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: J2EE certified I meant getting a web application certified -Original Message- From: Raghu.Ramakrishnan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:59 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: J2EE certified Amin You can take the SCWCD (Sun Certified Web Component Developer), its for JSP and Servlets. You have to have JCP to take this exam. Raghu -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 11:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: J2EE certified A colleague mentioned to me something about getting J2EE certified. I could only find getting an application server certified not the application. Anyone knows how to get a web application J2EE certified or is there a certification for Java web apps? Amin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: J2EE certified [Off-Topic]
I'll certify it for $1000 -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 12:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: J2EE certified A colleague mentioned to me something about getting J2EE certified. I could only find getting an application server certified not the application. Anyone knows how to get a web application J2EE certified or is there a certification for Java web apps? Amin This message and its contents (to include attachments) are the property of Kmart Corporation (Kmart) and may contain confidential and proprietary information. You are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this message, or the taking of any action based on information contained herein is strictly prohibited. Unauthorized use of information contained herein may subject you to civil and criminal prosecution and penalties. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message immediately. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: J2EE certified
Ah, you meant verified, not certified! Well why didn't you say? ;) I guess Sun have to make money somehow - although at a charge of 15 grand per year, I think I'll skip the Verified Designation for my j2ee app. On 08/14/2003 05:52 AM Thamarajah Dharma wrote: http://java.sun.com/j2ee/verified/avk_enterprise.html -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 8:26 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: OT: J2EE certified Simple question, is there or is there not a certification for a J2EE web app? Struts question, I'm getting this error, nothing else. In tomcat, there's the Servlet action is currently unavailable error. Any ideas? --- error javax.servlet.UnavailableException: Parsing error processing resource path at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.handleConfigException(A ctionServl et.java:1035) at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.parseModuleConfigFile(A ctionServl et.java:1014) at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.initModuleConfig(Action Servlet.ja va:955) at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.init(ActionServlet.java:470) at javax.servlet.GenericServlet.init(GenericServlet.java:256) - snip - Amin -Original Message- From: Adam L [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:22 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: J2EE certified J2EE encompasses a lot more than just a web application. JMS, EJB, XML processing/manipulation, SOAP, CORBA / IDL, JavaMail.. just to begin with. - Original Message - From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:14 PM Subject: RE: J2EE certified Struts is the de facto framework for J2EE. Does this mean my app using Struts is J2EE certified? Or is the such a thing as J2EE certified web app. Plus, not all question on the list are about struts -Original Message- From: Shane Mingins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:03 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: J2EE certified So where's the Struts question? -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 14 August 2003 2:01 p.m. To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: J2EE certified I meant getting a web application certified -Original Message- From: Raghu.Ramakrishnan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:59 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: J2EE certified Amin You can take the SCWCD (Sun Certified Web Component Developer), its for JSP and Servlets. You have to have JCP to take this exam. Raghu -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 11:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: J2EE certified A colleague mentioned to me something about getting J2EE certified. I could only find getting an application server certified not the application. Anyone knows how to get a web application J2EE certified or is there a certification for Java web apps? Amin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- struts 1.1 + tomcat 4.1.27 + java 1.4.2 Linux 2.4.20 RH9 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: J2EE certified
If you download the J2EE V.1.3 bundle from www.java.sun.com/j2ee Then go through the tutorials which can be found at http://java.sun.com/j2ee/tutorial/1_3-fcs/doc/J2eetutorialTOC.html You will come across a tool called the verifier. The verifier can be used to verify whether an .EAR ,.WAR ,JAR are J2EE compliant. Struts framework uses a WAR file. This page shows you the instructions on how to use the verifier. It is an extract from J2EE the tutorial. www.java.sun.com/j2ee/tutorial/1_3-fcs/doc/tools11.html In theory, you should be able to deploy any .EAR,WAR,JAR file on any of the J2EE compliant application server. For instance if you take a Struts War (Web Application (I can't remember what R mean)) file, which you may have developed on tomcat using your favourite free bie GUI IDE. Then you should deploy it on the Application Server which comes with the J2EE bundle. Then run the verifier to make sure it is J2EE compliant. If the Verifier does not throw any errors this means that in theory you can deploy your WAR file on Weblogic or Websphere 4.0 + ,SilverStream. with out any problems. Another words your WAR (Web Application) file has been verified or certified to be J2EE compliant. From: Thamarajah Dharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: J2EE certified Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 23:52:01 -0400 http://java.sun.com/j2ee/verified/avk_enterprise.html -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 8:26 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: OT: J2EE certified Simple question, is there or is there not a certification for a J2EE web app? Struts question, I'm getting this error, nothing else. In tomcat, there's the Servlet action is currently unavailable error. Any ideas? --- error javax.servlet.UnavailableException: Parsing error processing resource path at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.handleConfigException(A ctionServl et.java:1035) at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.parseModuleConfigFile(A ctionServl et.java:1014) at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.initModuleConfig(Action Servlet.ja va:955) at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.init(ActionServlet.java:470) at javax.servlet.GenericServlet.init(GenericServlet.java:256) - snip - Amin -Original Message- From: Adam L [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:22 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: J2EE certified J2EE encompasses a lot more than just a web application. JMS, EJB, XML processing/manipulation, SOAP, CORBA / IDL, JavaMail.. just to begin with. - Original Message - From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:14 PM Subject: RE: J2EE certified Struts is the de facto framework for J2EE. Does this mean my app using Struts is J2EE certified? Or is the such a thing as J2EE certified web app. Plus, not all question on the list are about struts -Original Message- From: Shane Mingins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:03 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: J2EE certified So where's the Struts question? -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 14 August 2003 2:01 p.m. To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: J2EE certified I meant getting a web application certified -Original Message- From: Raghu.Ramakrishnan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:59 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: J2EE certified Amin You can take the SCWCD (Sun Certified Web Component Developer), its for JSP and Servlets. You have to have JCP to take this exam. Raghu -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 11:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: J2EE certified A colleague mentioned to me something about getting J2EE certified. I could only find getting an application server certified not the application. Anyone knows how to get a web application J2EE certified or is there a certification for Java web apps? Amin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe
Re: J2EE certified
J2EE encompasses a lot more than just a web application. JMS, EJB, XML processing/manipulation, SOAP, CORBA / IDL, JavaMail.. just to begin with. - Original Message - From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:14 PM Subject: RE: J2EE certified Struts is the de facto framework for J2EE. Does this mean my app using Struts is J2EE certified? Or is the such a thing as J2EE certified web app. Plus, not all question on the list are about struts -Original Message- From: Shane Mingins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:03 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: J2EE certified So where's the Struts question? -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 14 August 2003 2:01 p.m. To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: J2EE certified I meant getting a web application certified -Original Message- From: Raghu.Ramakrishnan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:59 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: J2EE certified Amin You can take the SCWCD (Sun Certified Web Component Developer), its for JSP and Servlets. You have to have JCP to take this exam. Raghu -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 11:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: J2EE certified A colleague mentioned to me something about getting J2EE certified. I could only find getting an application server certified not the application. Anyone knows how to get a web application J2EE certified or is there a certification for Java web apps? Amin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: J2EE certified
http://java.sun.com/j2ee/verified/avk_enterprise.html -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 8:26 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: OT: J2EE certified Simple question, is there or is there not a certification for a J2EE web app? Struts question, I'm getting this error, nothing else. In tomcat, there's the Servlet action is currently unavailable error. Any ideas? --- error javax.servlet.UnavailableException: Parsing error processing resource path at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.handleConfigException(A ctionServl et.java:1035) at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.parseModuleConfigFile(A ctionServl et.java:1014) at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.initModuleConfig(Action Servlet.ja va:955) at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.init(ActionServlet.java:470) at javax.servlet.GenericServlet.init(GenericServlet.java:256) - snip - Amin -Original Message- From: Adam L [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:22 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: J2EE certified J2EE encompasses a lot more than just a web application. JMS, EJB, XML processing/manipulation, SOAP, CORBA / IDL, JavaMail.. just to begin with. - Original Message - From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:14 PM Subject: RE: J2EE certified Struts is the de facto framework for J2EE. Does this mean my app using Struts is J2EE certified? Or is the such a thing as J2EE certified web app. Plus, not all question on the list are about struts -Original Message- From: Shane Mingins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:03 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: J2EE certified So where's the Struts question? -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 14 August 2003 2:01 p.m. To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: J2EE certified I meant getting a web application certified -Original Message- From: Raghu.Ramakrishnan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:59 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: J2EE certified Amin You can take the SCWCD (Sun Certified Web Component Developer), its for JSP and Servlets. You have to have JCP to take this exam. Raghu -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 11:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: J2EE certified A colleague mentioned to me something about getting J2EE certified. I could only find getting an application server certified not the application. Anyone knows how to get a web application J2EE certified or is there a certification for Java web apps? Amin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: J2EE certified
I guess since it is only verifying the war/ear, the thousands $$$ are not worth it. Plus, less than 10 products are j2ee verified ( http://java.sun.com/j2ee/verified/thirdparty.html ). I was 'told' by a colleague to get my app 'J2EE certified'. Never heard of a web application getting certified which was why I asked it here, since many j2ee experts are lurking in here. :) Thanks for the responses. Amin -Original Message- From: Adam Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 5:16 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: J2EE certified Ah, you meant verified, not certified! Well why didn't you say? ;) I guess Sun have to make money somehow - although at a charge of 15 grand per year, I think I'll skip the Verified Designation for my j2ee app. On 08/14/2003 05:52 AM Thamarajah Dharma wrote: http://java.sun.com/j2ee/verified/avk_enterprise.html -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 8:26 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: OT: J2EE certified Simple question, is there or is there not a certification for a J2EE web app? Struts question, I'm getting this error, nothing else. In tomcat, there's the Servlet action is currently unavailable error. Any ideas? --- error javax.servlet.UnavailableException: Parsing error processing resource path at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.handleConfigException(A ctionServl et.java:1035) at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.parseModuleConfigFile(A ctionServl et.java:1014) at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.initModuleConfig(Action Servlet.ja va:955) at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.init(ActionServlet.java:470) at javax.servlet.GenericServlet.init(GenericServlet.java:256) - snip - Amin -Original Message- From: Adam L [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:22 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: J2EE certified J2EE encompasses a lot more than just a web application. JMS, EJB, XML processing/manipulation, SOAP, CORBA / IDL, JavaMail.. just to begin with. - Original Message - From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:14 PM Subject: RE: J2EE certified Struts is the de facto framework for J2EE. Does this mean my app using Struts is J2EE certified? Or is the such a thing as J2EE certified web app. Plus, not all question on the list are about struts -Original Message- From: Shane Mingins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:03 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: J2EE certified So where's the Struts question? -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 14 August 2003 2:01 p.m. To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: J2EE certified I meant getting a web application certified -Original Message- From: Raghu.Ramakrishnan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:59 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: J2EE certified Amin You can take the SCWCD (Sun Certified Web Component Developer), its for JSP and Servlets. You have to have JCP to take this exam. Raghu -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 11:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: J2EE certified A colleague mentioned to me something about getting J2EE certified. I could only find getting an application server certified not the application. Anyone knows how to get a web application J2EE certified or is there a certification for Java web apps? Amin - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL
RE: J2EE certified
Off that page there is a non-working link to a free trial version. Maybe you can claim your app passed in the free trial version :) -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 11:11 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: J2EE certified I guess since it is only verifying the war/ear, the thousands $$$ are not worth it. Plus, less than 10 products are j2ee verified ( http://java.sun.com/j2ee/verified/thirdparty.html ). I was 'told' by a colleague to get my app 'J2EE certified'. Never heard of a web application getting certified which was why I asked it here, since many j2ee experts are lurking in here. :) Thanks for the responses. Amin -Original Message- From: Adam Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 5:16 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: J2EE certified Ah, you meant verified, not certified! Well why didn't you say? ;) I guess Sun have to make money somehow - although at a charge of 15 grand per year, I think I'll skip the Verified Designation for my j2ee app. On 08/14/2003 05:52 AM Thamarajah Dharma wrote: http://java.sun.com/j2ee/verified/avk_enterprise.html -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 8:26 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: OT: J2EE certified Simple question, is there or is there not a certification for a J2EE web app? Struts question, I'm getting this error, nothing else. In tomcat, there's the Servlet action is currently unavailable error. Any ideas? --- error javax.servlet.UnavailableException: Parsing error processing resource path at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.handleConfigException(A ctionServl et.java:1035) at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.parseModuleConfigFile(A ctionServl et.java:1014) at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.initModuleConfig(Action Servlet.ja va:955) at org.apache.struts.action.ActionServlet.init(ActionServlet. java:470) at javax.servlet.GenericServlet.init(GenericServlet.java:256) - snip - Amin -Original Message- From: Adam L [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:22 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: J2EE certified J2EE encompasses a lot more than just a web application. JMS, EJB, XML processing/manipulation, SOAP, CORBA / IDL, JavaMail.. just to begin with. - Original Message - From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:14 PM Subject: RE: J2EE certified Struts is the de facto framework for J2EE. Does this mean my app using Struts is J2EE certified? Or is the such a thing as J2EE certified web app. Plus, not all question on the list are about struts -Original Message- From: Shane Mingins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 10:03 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: J2EE certified So where's the Struts question? -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 14 August 2003 2:01 p.m. To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: J2EE certified I meant getting a web application certified -Original Message- From: Raghu.Ramakrishnan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 9:59 AM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: J2EE certified Amin You can take the SCWCD (Sun Certified Web Component Developer), its for JSP and Servlets. You have to have JCP to take this exam. Raghu -Original Message- From: Mohd Amin Mohd Din [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 11:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: J2EE certified A colleague mentioned to me something about getting J2EE certified. I could only find getting an application server certified not the application. Anyone knows how to get a web application J2EE certified or is there a certification for Java web apps? Amin -- --- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED
