Re: [OT] RE: Not spam...I swear--
Nice looking family! Kenneth. - Original Message - From: Chappell, Simon P [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 8:30 AM Subject: RE: [OT] RE: Not spam...I swear-- http://simonpeter.com/family/2003/01jan/P1051973.JPG :-) -Original Message- From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 10:05 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: [OT] RE: Not spam...I swear-- Maybe, but who would date you? -Original Message- From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 10:44 AM He didn't say I was any good, just up to date! :-P -Original Message- From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 5:39 AM So much for your school's credentials -Original Message- From: Hookom, Jacob John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 10:09 PM I could send you my resume if you would like. The CS program I'm in starts you in Java your first year and emphasizes on design patterns and software development. The material is so up to date that the department even requested Simon Chappell (very well -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [OT] RE: Not spam...I swear--
An archeologist? -Original Message- From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 17 January 2003 00:05 To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: [OT] RE: Not spam...I swear-- Maybe, but who would date you? -Original Message- From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 10:44 AM He didn't say I was any good, just up to date! :-P -Original Message- From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 5:39 AM So much for your school's credentials -Original Message- From: Hookom, Jacob John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 10:09 PM I could send you my resume if you would like. The CS program I'm in starts you in Java your first year and emphasizes on design patterns and software development. The material is so up to date that the department even requested Simon Chappell (very well -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [OT] RE: Not spam...I swear--
So much for your school's credentials -Original Message- From: Hookom, Jacob John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 10:09 PM I could send you my resume if you would like. The CS program I'm in starts you in Java your first year and emphasizes on design patterns and software development. The material is so up to date that the department even requested Simon Chappell (very well attachment: winmail.dat-- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Not spam...I swear--
servlet-interest permits solicitations for jobs, but the requestor will get flamed if it's not clear in the subject, like [employment], so subscribers can filter it out. And if you need to received a solicitation on a user list, you have more problems than just unemployment Mark -Original Message- From: Daniel Joshua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 8:31 PM ... maybe there should be a [EMAIL PROTECTED] for this sort of ads. Regards, Daniel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Not spam...I swear--
Try Star Search -Original Message- From: Aileen Cardenas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 5:44 PM --just digging for TALENT! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [OT] RE: Not spam...I swear--
Lands' End is interested in hiring J2EE developers. I know of one opening, there may be more. The main benefit is you'd get to work with me! ;-) -Original Message- From: Jacob Hookom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 7:33 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: [OT] RE: Not spam...I swear-- Yeah, it would be nice to have some job offers for new college graduates from nationally accredited universities with lots of java programming experience especially those who have been developing in struts for over a year now ;-) | -Original Message- | From: Joe Barefoot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 7:11 PM | To: Struts Users Mailing List | Subject: RE: Not spam...I swear-- | | +1 | This is probably the best place to find Java web developers that actually | know what the hell they're doing. A hidden bonus to recruiters looking | for talent here, IMO, is that they might glean some notions of what | quality developers are interested in, talk about, etc--they have to hang | out on the list to see responses (well, okay, they could just use a filter, | but they're *likely* to hang out here). If more recruiters did that, I | might have to answer less questions in the vein of What's a Tomcat? the | next time I'm hunting for a new gig. | | peace, | Joe | | -Original Message- | From: Justin Ashworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 5:06 PM | To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' | Subject: RE: Not spam...I swear-- | | | At the risk of diverting all the flames of this thread to | myself, I have | to put in my 2 cents. Before you read any further - no, I am not | looking for a job. | | While a $100 referral fee isn't much at all, it shouldn't be | about that. | While YOU may be employed, if you have a friend who needs a job the | money should be secondary. | | Give credit to Ms. Aileen for knowing where to find good Struts talent | (see her original e-mail). Many technical recruiters don't | deserve that | title and to see one actually go right to the source of the | best Struts | talent is, to me, quite impressive. If more recruiters | worked this way | we would have fewer unqualified developers who get hired into | positions | that could've been ours, just because they have the right buzzwords on | their resumes. | | If this was a general Java job opening that was crossposted | to numerous | lists or if the list was flooded with such posts, I would have a | different opinion. | | Justin (donning my flame-retardant suit) | | -Original Message- | From: Kukreja, Vijay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 7:49 PM | To: Struts Users Mailing List | Subject: RE: Not spam...I swear-- | | | $100 referal fee.. hehe.. you must be out of your mind. | | -Original Message- | From: Aileen Cardenas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 2:44 PM | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: Not spam...I swear-- | | | --just digging for TALENT! | | When I find the right person, I will unsubscribe--I promise! | | I HAD to ask the experts for referrals, you certainly can't | blame me for trying! Anyhow, I am sure that one of you has | some friends and family out of work and it can't hurt for you | to ask them--if you refer the person to me who gets the | contract, you receive a $100 referral fee. | | It's a win-win-win! Toll free 877-317-8700, or direct 650-583-3600. | | Thanks for your help! | Ms. Aileen | Aileen Cardenas | Technical Recruiter | Apex Systems, Inc. | 1250 Bayhill Drive, Suite 101 | San Bruno, CA 94066 | 650-583-3600 | 650-583-3668 Fax | www.apexsystemsinc.com | | | -- | To unsubscribe, e-mail: | mailto:struts-user- [EMAIL PROTECTED] | For | additional commands, | e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | | -- | To unsubscribe, e-mail: | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | For additional commands, e-mail: | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | | -- | To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:struts-user- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:struts-user- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:struts-user-[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [OT] RE: Not spam...I swear--
He didn't say I was any good, just up to date! :-P -Original Message- From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 5:39 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: [OT] RE: Not spam...I swear-- So much for your school's credentials -Original Message- From: Hookom, Jacob John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 10:09 PM I could send you my resume if you would like. The CS program I'm in starts you in Java your first year and emphasizes on design patterns and software development. The material is so up to date that the department even requested Simon Chappell (very well
RE: [OT] RE: Not spam...I swear--
That was a pun. -Original Message- From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 10:05 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: [OT] RE: Not spam...I swear-- Maybe, but who would date you? -Original Message- From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 10:44 AM He didn't say I was any good, just up to date! :-P -Original Message- From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 5:39 AM So much for your school's credentials -Original Message- From: Hookom, Jacob John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 10:09 PM I could send you my resume if you would like. The CS program I'm in starts you in Java your first year and emphasizes on design patterns and software development. The material is so up to date that the department even requested Simon Chappell (very well -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [OT] RE: Not spam...I swear--
http://simonpeter.com/family/2003/01jan/P1051973.JPG :-) -Original Message- From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 10:05 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: [OT] RE: Not spam...I swear-- Maybe, but who would date you? -Original Message- From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 10:44 AM He didn't say I was any good, just up to date! :-P -Original Message- From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 5:39 AM So much for your school's credentials -Original Message- From: Hookom, Jacob John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 10:09 PM I could send you my resume if you would like. The CS program I'm in starts you in Java your first year and emphasizes on design patterns and software development. The material is so up to date that the department even requested Simon Chappell (very well -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [OT] RE: Not spam...I swear--
Ahhh...that explains a lot. You are a fisherman. Thank goodness they don't look like you (http://simonpeter.com/spm/biographies.html)! And what's with that limey flag being bigger than the Star-Spangled Banner? But I sense Craig is going to squash this thread any time now -Original Message- From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 11:30 AM http://simonpeter.com/family/2003/01jan/P1051973.JPG :-) -Original Message- From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 10:05 AM Maybe, but who would date you? -Original Message- From: Chappell, Simon P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 10:44 AM He didn't say I was any good, just up to date! :-P -Original Message- From: Mark Galbreath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 5:39 AM So much for your school's credentials -Original Message- From: Hookom, Jacob John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 10:09 PM I could send you my resume if you would like. The CS program I'm in starts you in Java your first year and emphasizes on design patterns and software development. The material is so up to date that the department even requested Simon Chappell (very well -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Not spam...I swear--
And you'll donate $100 to the Apache Software Foundation as well right? Simon not looking for another job at this time Chappell - Simon P. Chappell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Java Programming Specialist www.landsend.com Lands' End, Inc. (608) 935-4526 -Original Message- From: Aileen Cardenas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 4:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Not spam...I swear-- --just digging for TALENT! When I find the right person, I will unsubscribe--I promise! I HAD to ask the experts for referrals, you certainly can't blame me for trying! Anyhow, I am sure that one of you has some friends and family out of work and it can't hurt for you to ask them--if you refer the person to me who gets the contract, you receive a $100 referral fee. It's a win-win-win! Toll free 877-317-8700, or direct 650-583-3600. Thanks for your help! Ms. Aileen Aileen Cardenas Technical Recruiter Apex Systems, Inc. 1250 Bayhill Drive, Suite 101 San Bruno, CA 94066 650-583-3600 650-583-3668 Fax www.apexsystemsinc.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Not spam...I swear--
What kind of talent do you want? I'm pretty good at juggling cats. -- James Mitchell -Original Message- From: Aileen Cardenas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 5:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Not spam...I swear-- --just digging for TALENT! When I find the right person, I will unsubscribe--I promise! I HAD to ask the experts for referrals, you certainly can't blame me for trying! Anyhow, I am sure that one of you has some friends and family out of work and it can't hurt for you to ask them--if you refer the person to me who gets the contract, you receive a $100 referral fee. It's a win-win-win! Toll free 877-317-8700, or direct 650-583-3600. Thanks for your help! Ms. Aileen Aileen Cardenas Technical Recruiter Apex Systems, Inc. 1250 Bayhill Drive, Suite 101 San Bruno, CA 94066 650-583-3600 650-583-3668 Fax www.apexsystemsinc.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Not spam...I swear--
How many at once? -Original Message- From: James Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 4:48 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: Not spam...I swear-- What kind of talent do you want? I'm pretty good at juggling cats. -- James Mitchell -Original Message- From: Aileen Cardenas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 5:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Not spam...I swear-- --just digging for TALENT! When I find the right person, I will unsubscribe--I promise! I HAD to ask the experts for referrals, you certainly can't blame me for trying! Anyhow, I am sure that one of you has some friends and family out of work and it can't hurt for you to ask them--if you refer the person to me who gets the contract, you receive a $100 referral fee. It's a win-win-win! Toll free 877-317-8700, or direct 650-583-3600. Thanks for your help! Ms. Aileen Aileen Cardenas Technical Recruiter Apex Systems, Inc. 1250 Bayhill Drive, Suite 101 San Bruno, CA 94066 650-583-3600 650-583-3668 Fax www.apexsystemsinc.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Not spam...I swear--
$100 referal fee.. hehe.. you must be out of your mind. -Original Message- From: Aileen Cardenas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 2:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Not spam...I swear-- --just digging for TALENT! When I find the right person, I will unsubscribe--I promise! I HAD to ask the experts for referrals, you certainly can't blame me for trying! Anyhow, I am sure that one of you has some friends and family out of work and it can't hurt for you to ask them--if you refer the person to me who gets the contract, you receive a $100 referral fee. It's a win-win-win! Toll free 877-317-8700, or direct 650-583-3600. Thanks for your help! Ms. Aileen Aileen Cardenas Technical Recruiter Apex Systems, Inc. 1250 Bayhill Drive, Suite 101 San Bruno, CA 94066 650-583-3600 650-583-3668 Fax www.apexsystemsinc.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Not spam...I swear--
At the risk of diverting all the flames of this thread to myself, I have to put in my 2 cents. Before you read any further - no, I am not looking for a job. While a $100 referral fee isn't much at all, it shouldn't be about that. While YOU may be employed, if you have a friend who needs a job the money should be secondary. Give credit to Ms. Aileen for knowing where to find good Struts talent (see her original e-mail). Many technical recruiters don't deserve that title and to see one actually go right to the source of the best Struts talent is, to me, quite impressive. If more recruiters worked this way we would have fewer unqualified developers who get hired into positions that could've been ours, just because they have the right buzzwords on their resumes. If this was a general Java job opening that was crossposted to numerous lists or if the list was flooded with such posts, I would have a different opinion. Justin (donning my flame-retardant suit) -Original Message- From: Kukreja, Vijay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 7:49 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: Not spam...I swear-- $100 referal fee.. hehe.. you must be out of your mind. -Original Message- From: Aileen Cardenas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 2:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Not spam...I swear-- --just digging for TALENT! When I find the right person, I will unsubscribe--I promise! I HAD to ask the experts for referrals, you certainly can't blame me for trying! Anyhow, I am sure that one of you has some friends and family out of work and it can't hurt for you to ask them--if you refer the person to me who gets the contract, you receive a $100 referral fee. It's a win-win-win! Toll free 877-317-8700, or direct 650-583-3600. Thanks for your help! Ms. Aileen Aileen Cardenas Technical Recruiter Apex Systems, Inc. 1250 Bayhill Drive, Suite 101 San Bruno, CA 94066 650-583-3600 650-583-3668 Fax www.apexsystemsinc.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:struts-user- [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Not spam...I swear--
+1 This is probably the best place to find Java web developers that actually know what the hell they're doing. A hidden bonus to recruiters looking for talent here, IMO, is that they might glean some notions of what quality developers are interested in, talk about, etc--they have to hang out on the list to see responses (well, okay, they could just use a filter, but they're *likely* to hang out here). If more recruiters did that, I might have to answer less questions in the vein of What's a Tomcat? the next time I'm hunting for a new gig. peace, Joe -Original Message- From: Justin Ashworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 5:06 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: Not spam...I swear-- At the risk of diverting all the flames of this thread to myself, I have to put in my 2 cents. Before you read any further - no, I am not looking for a job. While a $100 referral fee isn't much at all, it shouldn't be about that. While YOU may be employed, if you have a friend who needs a job the money should be secondary. Give credit to Ms. Aileen for knowing where to find good Struts talent (see her original e-mail). Many technical recruiters don't deserve that title and to see one actually go right to the source of the best Struts talent is, to me, quite impressive. If more recruiters worked this way we would have fewer unqualified developers who get hired into positions that could've been ours, just because they have the right buzzwords on their resumes. If this was a general Java job opening that was crossposted to numerous lists or if the list was flooded with such posts, I would have a different opinion. Justin (donning my flame-retardant suit) -Original Message- From: Kukreja, Vijay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 7:49 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: Not spam...I swear-- $100 referal fee.. hehe.. you must be out of your mind. -Original Message- From: Aileen Cardenas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 2:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Not spam...I swear-- --just digging for TALENT! When I find the right person, I will unsubscribe--I promise! I HAD to ask the experts for referrals, you certainly can't blame me for trying! Anyhow, I am sure that one of you has some friends and family out of work and it can't hurt for you to ask them--if you refer the person to me who gets the contract, you receive a $100 referral fee. It's a win-win-win! Toll free 877-317-8700, or direct 650-583-3600. Thanks for your help! Ms. Aileen Aileen Cardenas Technical Recruiter Apex Systems, Inc. 1250 Bayhill Drive, Suite 101 San Bruno, CA 94066 650-583-3600 650-583-3668 Fax www.apexsystemsinc.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:struts-user- [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Not spam...I swear--
Good point! But aren't the majority of the people on the list already having jobs... ... maybe there should be a [EMAIL PROTECTED] for this sort of ads. Regards, Daniel -Original Message- From: Justin Ashworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 9:06 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: Not spam...I swear-- At the risk of diverting all the flames of this thread to myself, I have to put in my 2 cents. Before you read any further - no, I am not looking for a job. While a $100 referral fee isn't much at all, it shouldn't be about that. While YOU may be employed, if you have a friend who needs a job the money should be secondary. Give credit to Ms. Aileen for knowing where to find good Struts talent (see her original e-mail). Many technical recruiters don't deserve that title and to see one actually go right to the source of the best Struts talent is, to me, quite impressive. If more recruiters worked this way we would have fewer unqualified developers who get hired into positions that could've been ours, just because they have the right buzzwords on their resumes. If this was a general Java job opening that was crossposted to numerous lists or if the list was flooded with such posts, I would have a different opinion. Justin (donning my flame-retardant suit) -Original Message- From: Kukreja, Vijay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 7:49 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: Not spam...I swear-- $100 referal fee.. hehe.. you must be out of your mind. -Original Message- From: Aileen Cardenas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 2:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Not spam...I swear-- --just digging for TALENT! When I find the right person, I will unsubscribe--I promise! I HAD to ask the experts for referrals, you certainly can't blame me for trying! Anyhow, I am sure that one of you has some friends and family out of work and it can't hurt for you to ask them--if you refer the person to me who gets the contract, you receive a $100 referral fee. It's a win-win-win! Toll free 877-317-8700, or direct 650-583-3600. Thanks for your help! Ms. Aileen Aileen Cardenas Technical Recruiter Apex Systems, Inc. 1250 Bayhill Drive, Suite 101 San Bruno, CA 94066 650-583-3600 650-583-3668 Fax www.apexsystemsinc.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:struts-user- [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] RE: Not spam...I swear--
Yeah, it would be nice to have some job offers for new college graduates from nationally accredited universities with lots of java programming experience especially those who have been developing in struts for over a year now ;-) | -Original Message- | From: Joe Barefoot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 7:11 PM | To: Struts Users Mailing List | Subject: RE: Not spam...I swear-- | | +1 | This is probably the best place to find Java web developers that actually | know what the hell they're doing. A hidden bonus to recruiters looking | for talent here, IMO, is that they might glean some notions of what | quality developers are interested in, talk about, etc--they have to hang | out on the list to see responses (well, okay, they could just use a filter, | but they're *likely* to hang out here). If more recruiters did that, I | might have to answer less questions in the vein of What's a Tomcat? the | next time I'm hunting for a new gig. | | peace, | Joe | | -Original Message- | From: Justin Ashworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 5:06 PM | To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' | Subject: RE: Not spam...I swear-- | | | At the risk of diverting all the flames of this thread to | myself, I have | to put in my 2 cents. Before you read any further - no, I am not | looking for a job. | | While a $100 referral fee isn't much at all, it shouldn't be | about that. | While YOU may be employed, if you have a friend who needs a job the | money should be secondary. | | Give credit to Ms. Aileen for knowing where to find good Struts talent | (see her original e-mail). Many technical recruiters don't | deserve that | title and to see one actually go right to the source of the | best Struts | talent is, to me, quite impressive. If more recruiters | worked this way | we would have fewer unqualified developers who get hired into | positions | that could've been ours, just because they have the right buzzwords on | their resumes. | | If this was a general Java job opening that was crossposted | to numerous | lists or if the list was flooded with such posts, I would have a | different opinion. | | Justin (donning my flame-retardant suit) | | -Original Message- | From: Kukreja, Vijay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 7:49 PM | To: Struts Users Mailing List | Subject: RE: Not spam...I swear-- | | | $100 referal fee.. hehe.. you must be out of your mind. | | -Original Message- | From: Aileen Cardenas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 2:44 PM | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: Not spam...I swear-- | | | --just digging for TALENT! | | When I find the right person, I will unsubscribe--I promise! | | I HAD to ask the experts for referrals, you certainly can't | blame me for trying! Anyhow, I am sure that one of you has | some friends and family out of work and it can't hurt for you | to ask them--if you refer the person to me who gets the | contract, you receive a $100 referral fee. | | It's a win-win-win! Toll free 877-317-8700, or direct 650-583-3600. | | Thanks for your help! | Ms. Aileen | Aileen Cardenas | Technical Recruiter | Apex Systems, Inc. | 1250 Bayhill Drive, Suite 101 | San Bruno, CA 94066 | 650-583-3600 | 650-583-3668 Fax | www.apexsystemsinc.com | | | -- | To unsubscribe, e-mail: | mailto:struts-user- [EMAIL PROTECTED] | For | additional commands, | e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | | -- | To unsubscribe, e-mail: | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | For additional commands, e-mail: | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | | -- | To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:struts-user- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:struts-user- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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New college graduates . with lots of java programming experience??? How is that? Last I checked, 95% of what's taught in college, is useless at a development job. Hmmm, at least it was the case for me, and the developers I've hired in the past. I think experience speaks for way more than a degree. Ilya -Original Message- From: Jacob Hookom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 8:33 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: [OT] RE: Not spam...I swear-- Yeah, it would be nice to have some job offers for new college graduates from nationally accredited universities with lots of java programming experience especially those who have been developing in struts for over a year now ;-) | -Original Message- | From: Joe Barefoot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 7:11 PM | To: Struts Users Mailing List | Subject: RE: Not spam...I swear-- | | +1 | This is probably the best place to find Java web developers that actually | know what the hell they're doing. A hidden bonus to recruiters looking | for talent here, IMO, is that they might glean some notions of what | quality developers are interested in, talk about, etc--they have to hang | out on the list to see responses (well, okay, they could just use a filter, | but they're *likely* to hang out here). If more recruiters did that, I | might have to answer less questions in the vein of What's a Tomcat? the | next time I'm hunting for a new gig. | | peace, | Joe | | -Original Message- | From: Justin Ashworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 5:06 PM | To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' | Subject: RE: Not spam...I swear-- | | | At the risk of diverting all the flames of this thread to myself, I | have to put in my 2 cents. Before you read any further - no, I am | not looking for a job. | | While a $100 referral fee isn't much at all, it shouldn't be about | that. While YOU may be employed, if you have a friend who needs a | job the money should be secondary. | | Give credit to Ms. Aileen for knowing where to find good Struts talent | (see her original e-mail). Many technical recruiters don't deserve | that title and to see one actually go right to the source of the | best Struts | talent is, to me, quite impressive. If more recruiters | worked this way | we would have fewer unqualified developers who get hired into | positions | that could've been ours, just because they have the right buzzwords on | their resumes. | | If this was a general Java job opening that was crossposted to | numerous lists or if the list was flooded with such posts, I would | have a different opinion. | | Justin (donning my flame-retardant suit) | | -Original Message- | From: Kukreja, Vijay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 7:49 PM | To: Struts Users Mailing List | Subject: RE: Not spam...I swear-- | | | $100 referal fee.. hehe.. you must be out of your mind. | | -Original Message- | From: Aileen Cardenas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 2:44 PM | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: Not spam...I swear-- | | | --just digging for TALENT! | | When I find the right person, I will unsubscribe--I promise! | | I HAD to ask the experts for referrals, you certainly can't blame | me for trying! Anyhow, I am sure that one of you has some friends | and family out of work and it can't hurt for you to ask them--if | you refer the person to me who gets the contract, you receive a | $100 referral fee. | | It's a win-win-win! Toll free 877-317-8700, or direct 650-583-3600. | | Thanks for your help! | Ms. Aileen | Aileen Cardenas | Technical Recruiter | Apex Systems, Inc. | 1250 Bayhill Drive, Suite 101 | San Bruno, CA 94066 | 650-583-3600 | 650-583-3668 Fax | www.apexsystemsinc.com | | | -- | To unsubscribe, e-mail: | mailto:struts-user- [EMAIL PROTECTED] | For | additional commands, | e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | | -- | To unsubscribe, e-mail: | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | For additional commands, e-mail: | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | | -- | To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:struts-user- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:struts-user- | [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] RE: Not spam...I swear--
I could send you my resume if you would like. The CS program I'm in starts you in Java your first year and emphasizes on design patterns and software development. The material is so up to date that the department even requested Simon Chappell (very well known on the Struts-User mailing list) to lecture on the Struts Framework. A lot of my classmates end up at companies like 3M or IBM and are considered to be of a much higher caliber than graduates when it comes to software development, specifically Java applications. School aside though, I was actually with a software consulting company at the age of 17 and was generating more revenue than the other senior programmers in the company. I've also held lead programmer and product manager positions on projects with companies such as Sony and Adaptec :-) Currently, I am looking to relocate after graduation (late May possibly) into a long term career. Best Regards, Jacob Hookom -Original Message- From: Sterin, Ilya [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wed 1/15/2003 8:40 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Cc: Subject: RE: [OT] RE: Not spam...I swear-- New college graduates . with lots of java programming experience??? How is that? Last I checked, 95% of what's taught in college, is useless at a development job. Hmmm, at least it was the case for me, and the developers I've hired in the past. I think experience speaks for way more than a degree. Ilya -Original Message- From: Jacob Hookom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 8:33 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: [OT] RE: Not spam...I swear-- Yeah, it would be nice to have some job offers for new college graduates from nationally accredited universities with lots of java programming experience especially those who have been developing in struts for over a year now ;-) | -Original Message- | From: Joe Barefoot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 7:11 PM | To: Struts Users Mailing List | Subject: RE: Not spam...I swear-- | | +1 | This is probably the best place to find Java web developers that actually | know what the hell they're doing. A hidden bonus to recruiters looking | for talent here, IMO, is that they might glean some notions of what | quality developers are interested in, talk about, etc--they have to hang | out on the list to see responses (well, okay, they could just use a filter, | but they're *likely* to hang out here). If more recruiters did that, I | might have to answer less questions in the vein of What's a Tomcat? the | next time I'm hunting for a new gig. | | peace, | Joe | | -Original Message- | From: Justin Ashworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 5:06 PM | To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' | Subject: RE: Not spam...I swear-- | | | At the risk of diverting all the flames of this thread to myself, I | have to put in my 2 cents. Before you read any further - no, I am | not looking for a job. | | While a $100 referral fee isn't much at all, it shouldn't be about | that. While YOU may be employed, if you have a friend who needs a | job the money should be secondary. | | Give credit to Ms. Aileen for knowing where to find good Struts talent | (see her original e-mail). Many technical recruiters don't deserve | that title and to see one actually go right to the source of the | best Struts | talent is, to me, quite impressive. If more recruiters | worked this way | we would have fewer unqualified developers who get hired into | positions | that could've been ours, just because they have the right buzzwords on | their resumes. | | If this was a general Java job opening that was crossposted to | numerous lists or if the list was flooded with such posts, I would | have a different opinion. | | Justin (donning my flame-retardant suit) | | -Original Message- | From: Kukreja, Vijay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 7:49 PM | To: Struts Users Mailing List | Subject: RE: Not spam...I swear-- | | | $100 referal fee.. hehe.. you must be out of your mind. | | -Original Message
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so here's your job. insert contract here/ please pass 'go' and collect your $100. chris - Original Message - From: Hookom, Jacob John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Struts Users Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 10:08 PM Subject: [OT] RE: Not spam...I swear-- I could send you my resume if you would like. The CS program I'm in starts you in Java your first year and emphasizes on design patterns and software development. The material is so up to date that the department even requested Simon Chappell (very well known on the Struts-User mailing list) to lecture on the Struts Framework. A lot of my classmates end up at companies like 3M or IBM and are considered to be of a much higher caliber than graduates when it comes to software development, specifically Java applications. School aside though, I was actually with a software consulting company at the age of 17 and was generating more revenue than the other senior programmers in the company. I've also held lead programmer and product manager positions on projects with companies such as Sony and Adaptec :-) Currently, I am looking to relocate after graduation (late May possibly) into a long term career. Best Regards, Jacob Hookom -Original Message- From: Sterin, Ilya [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wed 1/15/2003 8:40 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Cc: Subject: RE: [OT] RE: Not spam...I swear-- New college graduates . with lots of java programming experience??? How is that? Last I checked, 95% of what's taught in college, is useless at a development job. Hmmm, at least it was the case for me, and the developers I've hired in the past. I think experience speaks for way more than a degree. Ilya -Original Message- From: Jacob Hookom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 8:33 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: [OT] RE: Not spam...I swear-- Yeah, it would be nice to have some job offers for new college graduates from nationally accredited universities with lots of java programming experience especially those who have been developing in struts for over a year now ;-) | -Original Message- | From: Joe Barefoot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 7:11 PM | To: Struts Users Mailing List | Subject: RE: Not spam...I swear-- | | +1 | This is probably the best place to find Java web developers that actually | know what the hell they're doing. A hidden bonus to recruiters looking | for talent here, IMO, is that they might glean some notions of what | quality developers are interested in, talk about, etc--they have to hang | out on the list to see responses (well, okay, they could just use a filter, | but they're *likely* to hang out here). If more recruiters did that, I | might have to answer less questions in the vein of What's a Tomcat? the | next time I'm hunting for a new gig. | | peace, | Joe | | -Original Message- | From: Justin Ashworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 5:06 PM | To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' | Subject: RE: Not spam...I swear-- | | | At the risk of diverting all the flames of this thread to myself, I | have to put in my 2 cents. Before you read any further - no, I am | not looking for a job. | | While a $100 referral fee isn't much at all, it shouldn't be about | that. While YOU may be employed, if you have a friend who needs a | job the money should be secondary. | | Give credit to Ms. Aileen for knowing where to find good Struts talent | (see her original e-mail). Many technical recruiters don't deserve | that title and to see one actually go right to the source of the | best Struts | talent is, to me, quite impressive. If more recruiters | worked this way | we would have fewer unqualified developers who get hired into | positions | that could've been ours, just because they have the right buzzwords on | their resumes. | | If this was a general Java job opening that was crossposted to | numerous lists or if the list was flooded with such posts, I would | have a different opinion. | | Justin (donning my flame-retardant suit) | | -Original Message- | From: Kukreja, Vijay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 7:49 PM | To: Struts Users Mailing List | Subject: RE: Not spam...I swear-- | | | $100 referal fee.. hehe.. you must be out of your mind. | | -Original Message- | From: Aileen Cardenas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 2:44 PM | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: Not spam...I swear-- | | | --just digging for TALENT! | | When I find the right person, I will unsubscribe--I promise! | | I HAD to ask the experts for referrals, you certainly can't blame | me for trying! Anyhow, I am sure that one of you has some friends | and family out of work and it can't hurt for you to ask them--if | you refer the person
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It is not true, I know quite a few good web developer without job. However, I beleive the recruiter is looking into long term so that when economy picks up, they have a handfull to darn good developers to go after. -D - Original Message - From: Daniel Joshua [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 5:31 PM Subject: RE: Not spam...I swear-- Good point! But aren't the majority of the people on the list already having jobs... ... maybe there should be a [EMAIL PROTECTED] for this sort of ads. Regards, Daniel -Original Message- From: Justin Ashworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 9:06 AM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: RE: Not spam...I swear-- At the risk of diverting all the flames of this thread to myself, I have to put in my 2 cents. Before you read any further - no, I am not looking for a job. While a $100 referral fee isn't much at all, it shouldn't be about that. While YOU may be employed, if you have a friend who needs a job the money should be secondary. Give credit to Ms. Aileen for knowing where to find good Struts talent (see her original e-mail). Many technical recruiters don't deserve that title and to see one actually go right to the source of the best Struts talent is, to me, quite impressive. If more recruiters worked this way we would have fewer unqualified developers who get hired into positions that could've been ours, just because they have the right buzzwords on their resumes. If this was a general Java job opening that was crossposted to numerous lists or if the list was flooded with such posts, I would have a different opinion. Justin (donning my flame-retardant suit) -Original Message- From: Kukreja, Vijay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 7:49 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: RE: Not spam...I swear-- $100 referal fee.. hehe.. you must be out of your mind. -Original Message- From: Aileen Cardenas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 2:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Not spam...I swear-- --just digging for TALENT! When I find the right person, I will unsubscribe--I promise! I HAD to ask the experts for referrals, you certainly can't blame me for trying! Anyhow, I am sure that one of you has some friends and family out of work and it can't hurt for you to ask them--if you refer the person to me who gets the contract, you receive a $100 referral fee. It's a win-win-win! Toll free 877-317-8700, or direct 650-583-3600. Thanks for your help! Ms. Aileen Aileen Cardenas Technical Recruiter Apex Systems, Inc. 1250 Bayhill Drive, Suite 101 San Bruno, CA 94066 650-583-3600 650-583-3668 Fax www.apexsystemsinc.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:struts-user- [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] RE: Not spam...I swear--
Phew! I'm exhausted from all that CV flexing! Maybe now we can settle down to the tasks of asking and answering friendly Struts-user questions ; P -Original Message- From: Hookom, Jacob John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 16 January 2003 2:09 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: [OT] RE: Not spam...I swear-- I could send you my resume if you would like. The CS program I'm in starts you in Java your first year and emphasizes on design patterns and software development. The material is so up to date that the department even requested Simon Chappell (very well known on the Struts-User mailing list) to lecture on the Struts Framework. A lot of my classmates end up at companies like 3M or IBM and are considered to be of a much higher caliber than graduates when it comes to software development, specifically Java applications. School aside though, I was actually with a software consulting company at the age of 17 and was generating more revenue than the other senior programmers in the company. I've also held lead programmer and product manager positions on projects with companies such as Sony and Adaptec :-) Currently, I am looking to relocate after graduation (late May possibly) into a long term career. Best Regards, Jacob Hookom -Original Message- From: Sterin, Ilya [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wed 1/15/2003 8:40 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Cc: Subject: RE: [OT] RE: Not spam...I swear-- New college graduates . with lots of java programming experience??? How is that? Last I checked, 95% of what's taught in college, is useless at a development job. Hmmm, at least it was the case for me, and the developers I've hired in the past. I think experience speaks for way more than a degree. Ilya -Original Message- From: Jacob Hookom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 8:33 PM To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' Subject: [OT] RE: Not spam...I swear-- Yeah, it would be nice to have some job offers for new college graduates from nationally accredited universities with lots of java programming experience especially those who have been developing in struts for over a year now ;-) | -Original Message- | From: Joe Barefoot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 7:11 PM | To: Struts Users Mailing List | Subject: RE: Not spam...I swear-- | | +1 | This is probably the best place to find Java web developers that actually | know what the hell they're doing. A hidden bonus to recruiters looking | for talent here, IMO, is that they might glean some notions of what | quality developers are interested in, talk about, etc--they have to hang | out on the list to see responses (well, okay, they could just use a filter, | but they're *likely* to hang out here). If more recruiters did that, I | might have to answer less questions in the vein of What's a Tomcat? the | next time I'm hunting for a new gig. | | peace, | Joe | | -Original Message- | From: Justin Ashworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 5:06 PM | To: 'Struts Users Mailing List' | Subject: RE: Not spam...I swear-- | | | At the risk of diverting all the flames of this thread to myself, I | have to put in my 2 cents. Before you read any further - no, I am | not looking for a job. | | While a $100 referral fee isn't much at all, it shouldn't be about | that. While YOU may be employed, if you have a friend who needs a | job the money should be secondary. | | Give credit to Ms. Aileen for knowing where to find good Struts talent | (see her original e-mail). Many technical recruiters don't deserve | that title and to see one actually go right to the source of the | best Struts | talent is, to me, quite impressive. If more recruiters | worked this way | we would have fewer unqualified developers who get hired into | positions | that could've been ours, just because they have the right buzzwords on | their resumes. | | If this was a general Java job opening that was crossposted to | numerous lists or if the list was flooded with such posts, I would | have a different opinion. | | Justin (donning my flame-retardant suit) | | -Original Message
