RE: Strut Books

2001-03-13 Thread Martijn Spronk

Here is some input from someone who started using
struts from scratch a week ago. So it might be valuable.

In a book on struts, I think it would be really good to 
emphasize on the 'why' and not only on the 'how'.

What I find with a lot of information and examples on
the struts site is that there is a lot of information on
how to do certain things (with a lot of examples) which is
pretty good. But because there is a lack of explaining 'why'
things work the way they work, it is not always easy to go
beyond functionality that is used in the examples. Simply
because the user is not always informed on why the things
work the way they work.


Martijn

Martijn Spronk
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-Original Message-
From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: March 13, 2001 7:49 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Strut Books


Julia Reynolds wrote:
> Also, many people who visit this list need ammunition to convince
> their management to
> use the struts framework in an upcoming project, so a "Why do I need
> Struts" section with a compelling case study or two would be a good
> idea.

"Why You Need Struts" is also (now) a good subtitle to Jason Hunter's
seminal JSP critique. 

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Re: Strut Books

2001-03-13 Thread Ted Husted

Julia Reynolds wrote:
> Also, many people who visit this list need ammunition to convince
> their management to
> use the struts framework in an upcoming project, so a "Why do I need
> Struts" section with a compelling case study or two would be a good
> idea.

"Why You Need Struts" is also (now) a good subtitle to Jason Hunter's
seminal JSP critique. 

< http://www.servlets.com/soapbox/problems-jsp.html >

-- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA.
-- Custom Software ~ Technical Services.
-- Tel 716 737-3463.
-- http://www.husted.com/about/struts/



Re: Strut Books

2001-03-13 Thread Julia Reynolds


For Beginners:


Getting started with Struts...a walk through of setting up a simple Struts
application


Explanation of the xml config files


How Action Servlet works


Brief explanation of the components needed like Xerces and Xalan


Life Cycle of a form submission including the execution of the Action class

For More Advanced Users:


Extending Struts


How the Digester works


Struts with various application servers, common workarounds to problems


Using JUNIT to test Struts applications.  This topic alone would make
the book worth buying for me!

Also, many people who visit this list need ammunition to convince their
management to
use the struts framework in an upcoming project, so a "Why do I need
Struts" section with a compelling case study or two would be a good idea.
Good luck, I hope to be writing you to request an autographed copy some
day soon!
Julia
"Lacerda, Wellington (AFIS)" wrote:
I'm working on a book about tag libraries that has
quite a number of
chapters dedicated to Struts. What are the topics you want to be covered
with more detail? I'm still working on those chapters to have them
more
up-to-date! This kind of input would be nice and right in time! :-)
Wellington Silva
UN/FAO
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Sent: 09/03/01 22:16
Subject: Re: Strut Books
If someone wrote one, I would buy it and my company would probably want
one for each developer.  I would buy the hardback, even! 
What about it
Craig?
Julia
Spencer Smith wrote:
> Don't I wish!
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Marty Fisher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 12:36 PM
> Subject: Strut Books
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Are there any decent books on the market now that give you a
detailed
> > account of how to modify/extend/use the strut classes ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Marty
> >
> >
--
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The
learned find themselves equipped to live in a world that no longer
exists.
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Re: Strut Books

2001-03-12 Thread Ted Husted

Are you including the new Taglibs JDBC tag set (which works well with
Struts, among other frameworks)?

"Lacerda, Wellington (AFIS)" wrote:
> 
> I'm working on a book about tag libraries that has quite a number of
> chapters dedicated to Struts. What are the topics you want to be covered
> with more detail? I'm still working on those chapters to have them more
> up-to-date! This kind of input would be nice and right in time! :-)
> 
> Wellington Silva
> UN/FAO



RE: Strut Books

2001-03-12 Thread Lacerda, Wellington (AFIS)

I'm working on a book about tag libraries that has quite a number of
chapters dedicated to Struts. What are the topics you want to be covered
with more detail? I'm still working on those chapters to have them more
up-to-date! This kind of input would be nice and right in time! :-)

Wellington Silva
UN/FAO 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 09/03/01 22:16
Subject: Re: Strut Books

If someone wrote one, I would buy it and my company would probably want
one for each developer.  I would buy the hardback, even!  What about it
Craig?

Julia

Spencer Smith wrote:

> Don't I wish!
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Marty Fisher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 12:36 PM
> Subject: Strut Books
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Are there any decent books on the market now that give you a
detailed
> > account of how to modify/extend/use the strut classes ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Marty
> >
> >

--
In a time of drastic change it is the learners who inherit the future.
The
learned find themselves equipped to live in a world that no longer
exists.
- Eric Hoffer



  H e a l t h S t r e a m,   I n c.
  Julia Reynolds - Systems Developer
  209 10th Ave. South Ste. 450 - Nashville, TN 37203
  phone: (615) 301-3220 - fax: (615) 301-3200

  email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Web Site: http://www.cmecourses.com




RE: Strut Books

2001-03-12 Thread Steve A Drake

On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, Rudy Bonefas wrote:

> Hey,
>   Maybe someone at Jakarta could look into setting up a news group so
> that my inbox is constantly spammed with useless shit like the following.

 Apparently, you are not aware that struts-user is well-behaved and
doesn't flame. 




RE: Strut Books

2001-03-12 Thread Rudy Bonefas

Hey,
Maybe someone at Jakarta could look into setting up a news group so
that my inbox is constantly spammed with useless shit like the following.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 4:16 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      Re: Strut Books
> 
> If someone wrote one, I would buy it and my company would probably want
> one for each developer.  I would buy the hardback, even!  What about it
> Craig?
> 
> Julia
> 
> Spencer Smith wrote:
> 
> > Don't I wish!
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Marty Fisher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 12:36 PM
> > Subject: Strut Books
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Are there any decent books on the market now that give you a detailed
> > > account of how to modify/extend/use the strut classes ?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Marty
> > >
> > >
> 
> --
> In a time of drastic change it is the learners who inherit the future. The
> learned find themselves equipped to live in a world that no longer exists.
> - Eric Hoffer
> 
> 
> 
>   H e a l t h S t r e a m,   I n c.
>   Julia Reynolds - Systems Developer
>   209 10th Ave. South Ste. 450 - Nashville, TN 37203
>   phone: (615) 301-3220 - fax: (615) 301-3200
> 
>   email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Web Site: http://www.cmecourses.com
> 



Re: Strut Books

2001-03-09 Thread Julia Reynolds

If someone wrote one, I would buy it and my company would probably want
one for each developer.  I would buy the hardback, even!  What about it
Craig?

Julia

Spencer Smith wrote:

> Don't I wish!
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Marty Fisher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 12:36 PM
> Subject: Strut Books
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Are there any decent books on the market now that give you a detailed
> > account of how to modify/extend/use the strut classes ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Marty
> >
> >

--
In a time of drastic change it is the learners who inherit the future. The
learned find themselves equipped to live in a world that no longer exists.
- Eric Hoffer



  H e a l t h S t r e a m,   I n c.
  Julia Reynolds - Systems Developer
  209 10th Ave. South Ste. 450 - Nashville, TN 37203
  phone: (615) 301-3220 - fax: (615) 301-3200

  email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Web Site: http://www.cmecourses.com





Re: Strut Books

2001-03-09 Thread Spencer Smith

Don't I wish!

- Original Message - 
From: "Marty Fisher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 12:36 PM
Subject: Strut Books


> Hello,
> 
> Are there any decent books on the market now that give you a detailed
> account of how to modify/extend/use the strut classes ?
> 
> Thanks,
> Marty
> 
> 




Strut Books

2001-03-09 Thread Marty Fisher

Hello,

Are there any decent books on the market now that give you a detailed
account of how to modify/extend/use the strut classes ?

Thanks,
Marty