chained actions

2003-11-19 Thread Caroline Lauferon
I don't understand what is happening: I am chaining to Actions that use the
same form input. when i submit the form, Action1 is called, and the form
parameter is well populated. at the end of action1, I make a forward to
Action2. and in Action2, the form is emptied!!???
I don't understand what is happening, and why. the solution I have found is
not to specify a form bean for action2 and get it by
request.getAttribute(MyForm). i t works, but I would like to understand
why struts creates a new form bean, overriding the existing one.
I hope someone will explain me.

Caroline
PS: here is a snippet of struts-config.xml, Action1.java and Action2.java

action path=/action1 type=package.Action1 name=MyForm
scope=request
   forward name=ok path=/action2.do/
/action
 action path=/action2 type=package.Action2  name=MyForm
scope=request 
   forward name=ok path=nextpage/
/action

/// Action1
MyForm f = (MyForm ) a_form;
s_logger.info(f.getField1() : + f.getField1()); // outputs a value

/// Action2
MyForm f = (MyForm ) a_form;
s_logger.info(f.getField1() : + f.getField1()); // outputs null


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RE: chained actions

2003-11-19 Thread Andrew Hill
Action chaining is considered bad practice.
There are numerous threads discussing the reasons - search the archive for
details.

Remember of course that when you hit the second action the RequestProcessor
executes again - this means that reset() is called again - and the form
repopulated - which makes your symptoms emptied kind of strange - one
would expect to see the form repopulated from the request (with changes you
made to its contents in the first action being written over) but not emptied
(unless none of those properties were in the request but were cleared in
reset). Are you using a redirecting forward? hmmm. No you cant be if you can
still find the form in the request.

Anyhow, these are just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the sort of
fun problems you get from commiting the sin of action chaining.


-Original Message-
From: Caroline Lauferon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 19 November 2003 16:55
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: chained actions


I don't understand what is happening: I am chaining to Actions that use the
same form input. when i submit the form, Action1 is called, and the form
parameter is well populated. at the end of action1, I make a forward to
Action2. and in Action2, the form is emptied!!???
I don't understand what is happening, and why. the solution I have found is
not to specify a form bean for action2 and get it by
request.getAttribute(MyForm). i t works, but I would like to understand
why struts creates a new form bean, overriding the existing one.
I hope someone will explain me.

Caroline
PS: here is a snippet of struts-config.xml, Action1.java and Action2.java

action path=/action1 type=package.Action1 name=MyForm
scope=request
   forward name=ok path=/action2.do/
/action
 action path=/action2 type=package.Action2  name=MyForm
scope=request 
   forward name=ok path=nextpage/
/action

/// Action1
MyForm f = (MyForm ) a_form;
s_logger.info(f.getField1() : + f.getField1()); // outputs a value

/// Action2
MyForm f = (MyForm ) a_form;
s_logger.info(f.getField1() : + f.getField1()); // outputs null


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Re: chained actions

2003-11-19 Thread Adam Hardy
Hi Caroline,

the only reason that I know of which would explain the loss of the form 
property values is redirecting from action1 to action2, but your action 
mappings don't show redirect=true.

Are you redirecting by default somehow? I know it is possible for 
instance with an init-param on your action servlet config in web.xml.

Adam
PS Andrew - limited action chaining isn't that bad. Are you claiming you 
don't do any at all?

On 11/19/2003 09:55 AM Caroline Lauferon wrote:
I don't understand what is happening: I am chaining to Actions that use the
same form input. when i submit the form, Action1 is called, and the form
parameter is well populated. at the end of action1, I make a forward to
Action2. and in Action2, the form is emptied!!???
I don't understand what is happening, and why. the solution I have found is
not to specify a form bean for action2 and get it by
request.getAttribute(MyForm). i t works, but I would like to understand
why struts creates a new form bean, overriding the existing one.
I hope someone will explain me.
Caroline
PS: here is a snippet of struts-config.xml, Action1.java and Action2.java
action path=/action1 type=package.Action1 name=MyForm
scope=request
   forward name=ok path=/action2.do/
/action
 action path=/action2 type=package.Action2  name=MyForm
scope=request 
   forward name=ok path=nextpage/
/action
/// Action1
MyForm f = (MyForm ) a_form;
s_logger.info(f.getField1() : + f.getField1()); // outputs a value
/// Action2
MyForm f = (MyForm ) a_form;
s_logger.info(f.getField1() : + f.getField1()); // outputs null


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RE: chained actions

2003-11-19 Thread Andrew Hill
Cant be redirecting though. If it was then one would not be able to retrieve
the form object from the request attributes in the second action.
My guess it that the parameters in question are being set in the first
action and there isnt actually a corresponding parameter value in the
request and they are then cleared by reset() prior toi hitting action 2. Is
this the case Caroline?

snip
PS Andrew - limited action chaining isn't that bad. Are you claiming you
don't do any at all?
/snip

Ah.. ahem, well I
Im only human, and sometimes ... well you know...  but its not something Im
proud of ok.
blush/

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From: Adam Hardy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 19 November 2003 17:11
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: chained actions


Hi Caroline,

the only reason that I know of which would explain the loss of the form
property values is redirecting from action1 to action2, but your action
mappings don't show redirect=true.

Are you redirecting by default somehow? I know it is possible for
instance with an init-param on your action servlet config in web.xml.

Adam
PS Andrew - limited action chaining isn't that bad. Are you claiming you
don't do any at all?


On 11/19/2003 09:55 AM Caroline Lauferon wrote:
 I don't understand what is happening: I am chaining to Actions that use
the
 same form input. when i submit the form, Action1 is called, and the form
 parameter is well populated. at the end of action1, I make a forward to
 Action2. and in Action2, the form is emptied!!???
 I don't understand what is happening, and why. the solution I have found
is
 not to specify a form bean for action2 and get it by
 request.getAttribute(MyForm). i t works, but I would like to understand
 why struts creates a new form bean, overriding the existing one.
 I hope someone will explain me.

 Caroline
 PS: here is a snippet of struts-config.xml, Action1.java and Action2.java

 action path=/action1 type=package.Action1 name=MyForm
 scope=request
forward name=ok path=/action2.do/
 /action
  action path=/action2 type=package.Action2  name=MyForm
 scope=request 
forward name=ok path=nextpage/
 /action

 /// Action1
 MyForm f = (MyForm ) a_form;
 s_logger.info(f.getField1() : + f.getField1()); // outputs a value

 /// Action2
 MyForm f = (MyForm ) a_form;
 s_logger.info(f.getField1() : + f.getField1()); // outputs null


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Re: chained actions

2003-11-19 Thread Caroline Lauferon
 My guess it that the parameters in question are being set in the first
 action and there isnt actually a corresponding parameter value in the
 request and they are then cleared by reset() prior toi hitting action 2.
Is
 this the case Caroline?

I'm not sure I understand what you mean do you mean the form fields by
parameters?
If so, that's not what i am doing. My form has several submission buttons.
Action1 is just logging the field values and forwarding to the action
corresponding to the button used to submit. No modification is made.

i found in the archives: when the second action is being invoked, the form
is being 'repopulated' with the initial form values that the form had when
it was passed to the first action . and that's not what is happening :-(

Caroline



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RE: chained actions

2003-11-19 Thread Andrew Hill
snip
I'm not sure I understand what you mean do you mean the form fields by
parameters?
/snip

Yes. Thats what I mean. In this case you say you arent modifying any of the
form properties but just forwarding straight to the next action. This is
quite mysterious actually. Based on all the info you have given it should be
working! Hmmm.

Is it a multipart form (file upload)?

Definately no exceptions/errors from struts in the log?

Can you dump the request parameters in the second action to make sure the
parameters are there?
Also try putting a logging statement in the forms reset() method to see if
its being called again for the second action.



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From: Caroline Lauferon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 19 November 2003 17:33
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Subject: Re: chained actions


 My guess it that the parameters in question are being set in the first
 action and there isnt actually a corresponding parameter value in the
 request and they are then cleared by reset() prior toi hitting action 2.
Is
 this the case Caroline?

I'm not sure I understand what you mean do you mean the form fields by
parameters?
If so, that's not what i am doing. My form has several submission buttons.
Action1 is just logging the field values and forwarding to the action
corresponding to the button used to submit. No modification is made.

i found in the archives: when the second action is being invoked, the form
is being 'repopulated' with the initial form values that the form had when
it was passed to the first action . and that's not what is happening :-(

Caroline



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Re: chained actions

2003-11-19 Thread Caroline Lauferon
 Is it a multipart form (file upload)?
yes. and since you asked me, I just changed it. and now it works???
(but the reset method is called between the two action in both cases). I
don't need this encoding, but I wanted to always use the same skeleton,
that's why i used it.
can you explain me what has been happening?


Caroline, puzzled


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Re: chained actions

2003-11-19 Thread Nicolas De Loof
Here is what happens :

reset() is called before every form population
form population occurs before every struts action url (*.do) is processed.

When an action forwards to another one using forward path=another.do, struts 
actionServlet is called to handle this
second URL. FormBean is then reseted and populated from request.

If you doesn't use a redirect, request is the same an all parameters are still in it, 
so formbean is populated the same
way for the two actions.

If you use a redirect, when first action forwards, a HTTP Redirect response (with 
location=another.do) is sent to the
browser. Browser follows new location and builds a new request, but this new request 
hasn't any parameter. When form
population occurs for another.do, form-bean is reseted and population has no effect 
(no parameters !).

Nico.


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  Is it a multipart form (file upload)?
 yes. and since you asked me, I just changed it. and now it works???
 (but the reset method is called between the two action in both cases). I
 don't need this encoding, but I wanted to always use the same skeleton,
 that's why i used it.
 can you explain me what has been happening?


 Caroline, puzzled


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RE: chained actions

2003-11-19 Thread Andrew Hill
Ahhh.
Multipart requests are funny beasts. They dont work the same way as normal
requests.

In a normal request the servlet container will parse the request and
initialise the request parameters in the request object (which you can then
obtain through such calls as request.getParameter(bob)).

Multipart requests however are submitted a different way to normal requests.
The servlet container is too stuck up to associate with such working-class
request types (something to do with the format being merely an RFC and not
an official standard or some such bourgeious nonsense) and so for a
multipart request, getParameter() will return null!!!

This is where struts comes in. Struts is much nicer than your average
servlet container, and it provides special support for multipart requests to
help make them act like normal requests for most purposes. (Well actually I
think its in some commons project now that struts leverages off - but the
origin of this code was actually in struts so I'll just lump it all in
together as Struts for the purposes of this discussion).

When a multipart request is submitted the request parameters arent
initialised by your servlet container. Struts will create a RequestWrapper
object to wrap the request and it will read from the requests input stream
and initialise the parameters in this RequestWrapper object. (It will also
read the files being uploaded and create the FormFile objects for the file
fields if there are any). The request object that gets passed to your action
is thus in fact this Multipart request wrapper object created by struts.
(You can verify this by comparing the results of a
request.getClass().getName() call for a multipart and non-multipart request
sent to your action).

When the action has finished processing the request processor will unwrap
the request wrapper it created and forward based on the original request
object.

Now what I think is happening to you here (and Im not 100% sure) is that
when the second action is hit, the input stream for the request has been
read already and cannot be re-read - and thus the multipart request cant be
processed a second time. Your best bet for a workaround is to do something
like what you were doing before - store a reference to the actionform
populated for the first request and look this up in the second.

hth
Andrew



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From: Caroline Lauferon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 19 November 2003 18:32
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Subject: Re: chained actions


 Is it a multipart form (file upload)?
yes. and since you asked me, I just changed it. and now it works???
(but the reset method is called between the two action in both cases). I
don't need this encoding, but I wanted to always use the same skeleton,
that's why i used it.
can you explain me what has been happening?


Caroline, puzzled


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Re: chained actions

2003-11-19 Thread Caroline Lauferon
Wahouh! thanks a lot for your great explanation!
thanks to all those who have also helped me: Adam Hardy and Nicolas De Loof
;-)

Caroline




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Re: chained actions

2003-11-19 Thread Adam Hardy
On 11/19/2003 12:13 PM Caroline Lauferon wrote:
Wahouh! thanks a lot for your great explanation!
thanks to all those who have also helped me: Adam Hardy and Nicolas De Loof
;-)
and thanks Andrew from me too - I never knew that.

Adam
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problem with chained actions in IE it work while Mozilla(Firebird) shows 404 (the context path gets lost)

2003-10-31 Thread Martin Grüneberg
Hello togehter,

in my application I have a series of chained Actions defined like this:

action
path=/setupModifyData

type=activegroup.hdb.struts.action.LockDatasetAction
scope=request
name=insertDataForm
validate=false
forward name=Success path=/preloadData.do /
/action
action
path=/preloadData

type=activegroup.hdb.struts.action.ModifyPreloadAction
scope=request
name=insertDataForm
validate=false
forward name=Success path=/jsp/modifyData.jsp
/
forward name=Failure path=/unlockDataset.do /
forward name=View_Only path=/jsp/viewData.jsp
/
/action
action
path=/modifyData

type=activegroup.hdb.struts.action.ModifyDataAction
scope=request
name=insertDataForm
validate=true
input=/jsp/modifyData.jsp
forward name=Success path=/unlockDataset.do /
forward name=Failure path=/unlockDataset.do /
/action
action
path=/unlockDataset

type=activegroup.hdb.struts.action.UnlockDatasetAction
scope=request
name=insertDataForm
validate=true
input=/jsp/modifyData.jsp
forward name=Success
path=/jsp/closeAndReload.jsp /
/action
When I call (by click on a link) the /setupModifyData.do action in IE the
dataset is locked and the appcontext/jsp/modifyData.jsp showes up. When I
click on the same link in Mozilla(Firebird) a 404 Error is shown because the
appcontext gets lost somewhere and the resource /jsp/modifyData.jsp could
not be found.

Why does this happen?
Martin Grüneberg



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AW: problem with chained actions in IE it work while Mozilla(Firebird) shows 404 (the context path gets lost) (SOLVED)

2003-10-31 Thread Martin Grüneberg
Solved, it was only a Browser caching problem

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 Betreff: problem with chained actions in IE it work while 
 Mozilla(Firebird) shows 404 (the context path gets lost)
 
 
 Hello togehter,
 
 in my application I have a series of chained Actions defined 
 like this:
 
   action
   path=/setupModifyData
   
 type=activegroup.hdb.struts.action.LockDatasetAction
   scope=request
   name=insertDataForm
   validate=false
   forward name=Success 
 path=/preloadData.do /
   /action
   action
   path=/preloadData
   
 type=activegroup.hdb.struts.action.ModifyPreloadAction
   scope=request
   name=insertDataForm
   validate=false
   forward name=Success 
 path=/jsp/modifyData.jsp
 /
   forward name=Failure 
 path=/unlockDataset.do /
   forward name=View_Only 
 path=/jsp/viewData.jsp
 /
   /action
   action
   path=/modifyData
   
 type=activegroup.hdb.struts.action.ModifyDataAction
   scope=request
   name=insertDataForm
   validate=true
   input=/jsp/modifyData.jsp
   forward name=Success 
 path=/unlockDataset.do /
   forward name=Failure 
 path=/unlockDataset.do /
   /action
   action
   path=/unlockDataset
   
 type=activegroup.hdb.struts.action.UnlockDatasetAction
   scope=request
   name=insertDataForm
   validate=true
   input=/jsp/modifyData.jsp
   forward name=Success
 path=/jsp/closeAndReload.jsp /
   /action
 When I call (by click on a link) the /setupModifyData.do 
 action in IE the dataset is locked and the 
 appcontext/jsp/modifyData.jsp showes up. When I click on 
 the same link in Mozilla(Firebird) a 404 Error is shown 
 because the appcontext gets lost somewhere and the resource 
 /jsp/modifyData.jsp could not be found.
 
 Why does this happen?
 Martin Grüneberg
 
 
 
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Chained Actions (why so bad?), forwards vs. redirects, and Tiles

2003-09-17 Thread Thompson, David
I'm still not seeing why 'chained' actions are so bad.  On our current
project, we want a user who has just signed up to go ahead and be logged-in
all in the same step, and forwarded straight to the logged-in homepage.
There are 2 actions, and using 1.1b3 with Tiles, the following struts-config
worked just fine:

action path=/signup
...
forward name=login path=login.do/
/action
action path=/login
...
forward name=success path=tile.homepage/
/action

We even figured out that you could specify the next 'link' of the chain with
it's own request parameters, ala path=login.do?someparm=hello.  Note that
it _forwarded_ to the next action (same request object, so we could pass
data as attributes), and re-triggering the dispatcher was a-ok.  So then we
switched to 1.1final, and noticed this doesn't work any more (Cannot get
request dispatcher for path...).  Now, I can understand how pulling
path=login.do?someparm=hello in a forward shouldn't work (even stepping
through the code, I still can't figure out how it was working before), but
for a number of circumstances, I still want to be able to _forward_ to other
actions.

Why is that so bad?  I'm not entirely seeing how it's breaking the MVC
pattern.  The intent of an action is to perform a discreet activity so
you're not duplicating code everywhere, so to get 2 or more to execute on
one request seems completely within reason.  I realize there's no way to
change request parameters, so yes, I'd be using request attributes to pass
data between actions, so I suppose that's the whole riff over chained
actions?  the 'bad' practice of using request attributes?  Would it be bad
if I didn't need to pass anything to the next action?  I'd argue using a
redirect (forward redirect=true...) can be looked down on too, as it can
be effected by the visitor's browser, play tricks on hit logging and
clickstream tracking systems, potentially leave slow-connection users with
blank screens, etc.  but I digress...

In _lieu_ (;^) of being able to forward to other actions, I can think of a
number of other ways to work this.  For a second action in the chain who
wants a simple, request-scoped form, I don't mind having the first action
create a form and set data, place it on the request, and use a mapping to
the next action.  Or, change the form to be session scoped, create the form
and set data, place it in the session (you'd have to use the struts-config
given name as the key, and that'd be icky), use a redirect=true mapping to
get to the second action, have the second action remove it from the session.
Or, have the first action create a full URL to the second action, with query
string to pass parameters in, and return a redirected ActionForward (oh the
semantics!).  Then complicate matters of how to add, and ensure use of,
https in this mix.  whew.

Thanks,
david
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RE: Chained Actions (why so bad?), forwards vs. redirects, and Tiles

2003-09-17 Thread Andrew Hill
snip
Now, I can understand how pulling
path=login.do?someparm=hello in a forward shouldn't work (even stepping
through the code, I still can't figure out how it was working before
/snip

Theres no problem slipping query params into a forward url like that. Its a
standard technique. All my apps depend on it. Look elsewhere for your bug
for it lyeth not in the forwarded params.

btw: redirecting to another action is not action chaining. Its only chaining
if you do it on the server side (non-redirecting), and its only evil as you
can get (a lot of) unanticipated side-effects from a second pass through the
request processor (such as form repopulation)

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From: Thompson, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 18 September 2003 03:26
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Chained Actions (why so bad?), forwards vs. redirects, and
Tiles


I'm still not seeing why 'chained' actions are so bad.  On our current
project, we want a user who has just signed up to go ahead and be logged-in
all in the same step, and forwarded straight to the logged-in homepage.
There are 2 actions, and using 1.1b3 with Tiles, the following struts-config
worked just fine:

action path=/signup
...
forward name=login path=login.do/
/action
action path=/login
...
forward name=success path=tile.homepage/
/action

We even figured out that you could specify the next 'link' of the chain with
it's own request parameters, ala path=login.do?someparm=hello.  Note that
it _forwarded_ to the next action (same request object, so we could pass
data as attributes), and re-triggering the dispatcher was a-ok.  So then we
switched to 1.1final, and noticed this doesn't work any more (Cannot get
request dispatcher for path...).  Now, I can understand how pulling
path=login.do?someparm=hello in a forward shouldn't work (even stepping
through the code, I still can't figure out how it was working before), but
for a number of circumstances, I still want to be able to _forward_ to other
actions.

Why is that so bad?  I'm not entirely seeing how it's breaking the MVC
pattern.  The intent of an action is to perform a discreet activity so
you're not duplicating code everywhere, so to get 2 or more to execute on
one request seems completely within reason.  I realize there's no way to
change request parameters, so yes, I'd be using request attributes to pass
data between actions, so I suppose that's the whole riff over chained
actions?  the 'bad' practice of using request attributes?  Would it be bad
if I didn't need to pass anything to the next action?  I'd argue using a
redirect (forward redirect=true...) can be looked down on too, as it can
be effected by the visitor's browser, play tricks on hit logging and
clickstream tracking systems, potentially leave slow-connection users with
blank screens, etc.  but I digress...

In _lieu_ (;^) of being able to forward to other actions, I can think of a
number of other ways to work this.  For a second action in the chain who
wants a simple, request-scoped form, I don't mind having the first action
create a form and set data, place it on the request, and use a mapping to
the next action.  Or, change the form to be session scoped, create the form
and set data, place it in the session (you'd have to use the struts-config
given name as the key, and that'd be icky), use a redirect=true mapping to
get to the second action, have the second action remove it from the session.
Or, have the first action create a full URL to the second action, with query
string to pass parameters in, and return a redirected ActionForward (oh the
semantics!).  Then complicate matters of how to add, and ensure use of,
https in this mix.  whew.

Thanks,
david
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