AW: proposal: splitting struts mailing list
what features should this service have? perhaps i can spend some time to develop one or modify an existing. please propose some. norman -Ursprungliche Nachricht- Von: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Gesendet: Dienstag, 3. Juli 2001 18:22 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: proposal: splitting struts mailing list Struts is free, user-supported software and we depend on the advanced users to help the beginners. A few of us have write access to the Struts repository, but most of the end-user support, patches, and new contributions must come from the user community if Struts is to continue to grow. Right now, Jakarta can offer us a mailing list for the end-users and a mailing list to discuss new Struts development. If other support services are going to be offered, like newsgroups or bulletin boards or list digests, we would need someone to step up and volunteer the resources and energy to make those services work. -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Custom Software ~ Technical Services. -- Tel 716 737-3463. -- http://www.husted.com/about/struts/ Norman Timmler wrote: > > hi, > > the daily mails in this mailinglist incrased a lot past the last month. > what do you think about to split the mailinglist into two. eg. into a > beginner and advanced one. > > perhaps this could fit everybodys needs. > > norman > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > Norman Timmler > application developer > > neteye GmbH > Alsterchaussee 3 > 20149 Hamburg > Tel +49-(0)40 85 40 26 -40 > Fax +49-(0)40 85 40 26 -10 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://neteye.de
RE: proposal: splitting struts mailing list
If you're worried about crossposts, why not call the advanced struts list, "struts-advanced-unsubscribe"? To unsubscribe, you'd have to send an email to "struts-advanced-unsubscribe-unsubscribe", which never get it if they did somehow subscribe. Nevermind. ;-) Anthony -Original Message- From: Wayland Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2001 10:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: proposal: splitting struts mailing list We already have a struts-user and struts-dev list. I doubt a beginner and advanced list would work because newbies would likely cross-post to both lists or even go directly to the advanced list because they think a more advanced readership would be able to help them. My only suggestion would be to put a link on the Struts homepage to the archives where people can search for past resolutions to common problems. Also, mailing list commands (how to unsubscribe) should be echoed on the homepage. From the number of unsubscribe posts we get in here, it's obvious people aren't reading the reply from the mailing list upon joining that teach them how to do all this. > Norman Timmler wrote: > > hi, > > the daily mails in this mailinglist incrased a lot past the last month. > what do you think about to split the mailinglist into two. eg. into a > beginner and advanced one. > > perhaps this could fit everybodys needs. > > norman > __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: proposal: splitting struts mailing list
We already have a struts-user and struts-dev list. I doubt a beginner and advanced list would work because newbies would likely cross-post to both lists or even go directly to the advanced list because they think a more advanced readership would be able to help them. My only suggestion would be to put a link on the Struts homepage to the archives where people can search for past resolutions to common problems. Also, mailing list commands (how to unsubscribe) should be echoed on the homepage. From the number of unsubscribe posts we get in here, it's obvious people aren't reading the reply from the mailing list upon joining that teach them how to do all this. > Norman Timmler wrote: > > hi, > > the daily mails in this mailinglist incrased a lot past the last month. > what do you think about to split the mailinglist into two. eg. into a > beginner and advanced one. > > perhaps this could fit everybodys needs. > > norman > __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: proposal: splitting struts mailing list
Struts is free, user-supported software and we depend on the advanced users to help the beginners. A few of us have write access to the Struts repository, but most of the end-user support, patches, and new contributions must come from the user community if Struts is to continue to grow. Right now, Jakarta can offer us a mailing list for the end-users and a mailing list to discuss new Struts development. If other support services are going to be offered, like newsgroups or bulletin boards or list digests, we would need someone to step up and volunteer the resources and energy to make those services work. -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Custom Software ~ Technical Services. -- Tel 716 737-3463. -- http://www.husted.com/about/struts/ Norman Timmler wrote: > > hi, > > the daily mails in this mailinglist incrased a lot past the last month. > what do you think about to split the mailinglist into two. eg. into a > beginner and advanced one. > > perhaps this could fit everybodys needs. > > norman > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > Norman Timmler > application developer > > neteye GmbH > Alsterchaussee 3 > 20149 Hamburg > Tel +49-(0)40 85 40 26 -40 > Fax +49-(0)40 85 40 26 -10 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://neteye.de
Re: proposal: splitting struts mailing list
Exactly my opinion as well. If splitting is necessary, some other split-boundary should be found. Maybe one could try splitting between the Java-centred part and the HTML-centered part. But this is not convincing to me. Guido Peter Alfors cc: Subject: Re: proposal: splitting struts mailing list 02.07.2001 19:57 Please respond to struts-user The problem with splitting into two lists is that the "advanced" users will not be around to answer the "beginner" questions. I agree that there is a lot of traffic on this list, both beginner and advanced. I see it as a benefit though. The beginners get to learn from the advanced, and the advanced (developers) get to see the typical types of questions that are asked. This may then lead to a better design, or better documentation, etc. Just my two cents. :) Pete Norman Timmler wrote: > hi, > > the daily mails in this mailinglist incrased a lot past the last month. > what do you think about to split the mailinglist into two. eg. into a > beginner and advanced one. > > perhaps this could fit everybodys needs. > > norman > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > Norman Timmler > application developer > > neteye GmbH > Alsterchaussee 3 > 20149 Hamburg > Tel +49-(0)40 85 40 26 -40 > Fax +49-(0)40 85 40 26 -10 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://neteye.de
RE: proposal: splitting struts mailing list
Agreed. :) Chris -Original Message- From: Peter Alfors [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 1:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: proposal: splitting struts mailing list The problem with splitting into two lists is that the "advanced" users will not be around to answer the "beginner" questions. I agree that there is a lot of traffic on this list, both beginner and advanced. I see it as a benefit though. The beginners get to learn from the advanced, and the advanced (developers) get to see the typical types of questions that are asked. This may then lead to a better design, or better documentation, etc. Just my two cents. :) Pete
Re: proposal: splitting struts mailing list
The problem with splitting into two lists is that the "advanced" users will not be around to answer the "beginner" questions. I agree that there is a lot of traffic on this list, both beginner and advanced. I see it as a benefit though. The beginners get to learn from the advanced, and the advanced (developers) get to see the typical types of questions that are asked. This may then lead to a better design, or better documentation, etc. Just my two cents. :) Pete Norman Timmler wrote: > hi, > > the daily mails in this mailinglist incrased a lot past the last month. > what do you think about to split the mailinglist into two. eg. into a > beginner and advanced one. > > perhaps this could fit everybodys needs. > > norman > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > Norman Timmler > application developer > > neteye GmbH > Alsterchaussee 3 > 20149 Hamburg > Tel +49-(0)40 85 40 26 -40 > Fax +49-(0)40 85 40 26 -10 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://neteye.de
RE: proposal: splitting struts mailing list
I recently signed up for this mailing list, but I no longer wish to be on it. I emailed [EMAIL PROTECTED], and asked to be removed, but I am still getting the messages! Please remove me from all of your lists! Thanks! > -Original Message- > From: Norman Timmler [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2001 10:36 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: proposal: splitting struts mailing list > > hi, > > the daily mails in this mailinglist incrased a lot past the last month. > what do you think about to split the mailinglist into two. eg. into a > beginner and advanced one. > > perhaps this could fit everybodys needs. > > norman > > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > > Norman Timmler > application developer > > neteye GmbH > Alsterchaussee 3 > 20149 Hamburg > Tel +49-(0)40 85 40 26 -40 > Fax +49-(0)40 85 40 26 -10 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://neteye.de >
proposal: splitting struts mailing list
hi, the daily mails in this mailinglist incrased a lot past the last month. what do you think about to split the mailinglist into two. eg. into a beginner and advanced one. perhaps this could fit everybodys needs. norman . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Norman Timmler application developer neteye GmbH Alsterchaussee 3 20149 Hamburg Tel +49-(0)40 85 40 26 -40 Fax +49-(0)40 85 40 26 -10 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://neteye.de
