Re: [sugar] [PATCH] 5657: don't install activities in Rainbow's loophole
Patch (1) makes sugar registry service not add bundles unless they're in ~/Activities. I don't object to such a patch for 2008. But I expect that sooner or later there will be hundreds of Activities -- they will NOT all fit into ~/Activities. When that happens, how to still have security will need to be re-thought. [What I have in mind is a 'hook-up' facility, which would add in Activities which reside elsewhere.] mikus (this is a hot button for me) ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] New joyride build 2258 (Eben Eliason)
There is a practical problem with opening the software-updater the first thing after a build install: What if the initial __settings__ in that build are not compatible with the environment required to run the XO on which the install was performed? For instance, I need to set some environmental variables before my XO's connection to the internet will work. If the *first* thing that opens is software-updater, those variables have not yet been set -- and software-updater will never work for me without them. Also, I've encountered difficulties if my XO 'suspends' while I am trying to download from the internet -- to run software-updater reliably on my system, would 'suspend' need to be inhibited first? mikus ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
[sugar] [RELEASE] Pippy 24
sources: http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/pippy-activity/Pippy-24.tar.bz2 bundled: http://dev.laptop.org/~erikos/bundles/0.82/Pippy-24.xo - many new great translations Best, Simon ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Proposal: Activity developers mailing list
Greg Smith wrote: I want to read all the e-mails that are important for XO users and I want to skip anything not directly relevant to them. I'll archive and maintain links to the rest in case I need to look something up. Knowing my perspective, let me know if you have any suggestions on how I can optimize my efficiency with the new communication channels. I think the Sugar development list, once moved to sugarlabs.org, will still focus on the same topics. If, and when, the traffic about non-OLPC ports grows to a point where it becomes distracting to core development, we might create additional lists. Cross-posting to multiple Sugarlabs and OLPC lists will be welcome as always. As for the technical aspect of reading multiple lists, can I suggest using gmame.org? Their list archives are very usable and they even relay them over NNTP, which is generally faster than IMAP for a large number of posts. The way I do it, is a little geeky, but I found it optimal: I use procmail recipes based on the Sender header to sort each list into its own server-side Maildir folder. Then, I use IMAP to access it from all my laptops. This lets me comfortably subscribe to ~30 lists for a total of 5GB of mail :-) We can rebuild him, we have the technology ... better than he was before, better, stronger, faster! http://www.technorati.com/videos/youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DaZ9phMCn_Lw It's too bad I have a 3kb/s downlink here in Kathmandu, but I know *exactly* where this quote comes from ;-))) -- \___/ Bernie Innocenti - http://www.codewiz.org/ _| X | Sugar Labs Team - http://www.sugarlabs.org/ \|_O_| It's an education project, not a laptop project! ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
[sugar] [RELEASE] Log 12
sources: http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/log-activity/Log-12.tar.bz2 bundled: http://dev.laptop.org/~erikos/bundles/0.82/Log-12.xo - translation update Best, Simon ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Question about write from Niue -OLPC training
On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 12:22 +1000, Martin Sevior wrote: There is a good chance this is fixed in the current joyride 8.20 builds. Clearly we need to get these out to you. I can't seem to remember any backport in AbiWord I did that would be related to this. Perhaps your memory is better than mine? Marc ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
[sugar] [RELEASE] sugar-presence-service 0.82.1 released
A new release of Presence Service is available at: https://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/sugar-presence-service/sugar-presence-service-0.82.1.tar.bz2 The One more bug fixed release. Fixes: * dev.laptop.org #5618: PS should drop handles causing InspectHandles failing Regards, G. ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Question about write from Niue -OLPC training
Hi Guys, Great question! So basic but so relevant! I don't think its just the image size, but I'm open to suggestions. I found one way using build 703 to get an image off the web and in to write. Open Browse and go to the page you want to get the image from. Then hold down the shift key and click the mouse button and hold it down. Then drag the image to the frame and drop it there. Now you should have a clipboard image stye icon on the frame. Mouse over it and choose add to the journal. Then open write, choose the image tab and click the insert image option. I don't know if that is meant to be supported (e.g. the drag and drop is not reliable in many cases) but it worked for me on 703. In my experience, there are several areas of instability you want to be aware of in the 656 and possibly 703 releases. The clipboard can get confused about what type of file it has and which one is the paste target. So I had to remove everything else from the clipboard before it decided that the image was the paste target. Even so it I couldn't paste it with control-v in to Write. When the journal is big it sometimes doesn't open. I think that is more relevant to 656 than 703 but its something to be aware of. That may block you from getting something off the journal in to write with the file chooser. Its a work around, but seemed to work for me :-) For the list, I don't know what version of Write or Browse I have on this XO. How do I determine that? HTHs. Try getting an image and text from Write on to a web page sometime too Thanks, Greg S -- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 21:07:16 -0500 From: Bastien [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [sugar] Question about write from Niue -OLPC training To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: sugar@lists.laptop.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Martin Sevior [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Think that write might not allow the image to be imported if it is too big. Can you tell me how large the images are? What are their dimensions in pixels? We've had had the same issue in Ha?ti, with both 656 and 703 builds, and with images as taken with the Record activity (I don't know ths size and dimensions.) Is this fixed in newer (stable) builds? -- Bastien -- Message: 4 Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2008 12:22:59 +1000 From: Martin Sevior [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [sugar] Question about write from Niue -OLPC training To: grisel carreira [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: sugar@lists.laptop.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 09:45 +1000, grisel carreira wrote: Hi Gary, The versions I am using are: - Sugar v.1.703 - WikiBrowse v.9, and - Write v.55. Thanks Grisel Hi Grisel, There is a good chance this is fixed in the current joyride 8.20 builds. Clearly we need to get these out to you. A work around until then would be to reduce the size of the images or to only select images that are 640x480 or smaller. I'm almost certain these will work as this is the size of images made with the camera. Cheers Martin On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 9:16 AM, Gary C Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Grisel, On 6 Aug 2008, at 23:42, grisel carreira wrote: Hi there, Please let me know if I should direct the questions to someone else since I haven't received any response. (see below) Cheers, Grisel Sorry, this probably doesn't help... I'm running a very new development build (joyride-2258) and it seems to be running as hoped. Using Browse-94, visiting Google images, right clicking and selecting copy on several images into the clipboard, then starting a new Write-56 activity and dragging in the images with the mouse one by one (see attached screen shot for the not so masterpiece result). Can you say what version of the Sugar operating system you are using? Also Browse version and Write version would be good. Hi there, I am doing some volunteer work for the OLPC in Niue island. One basic activity we set up on the teacher training was to get pictures from Google images, save them to the journal and upload them into Write by using the Image tab, insert facility but it didnt work. We tried various ways: - copy the image and paste it in the 'write' document - upload to clipboard image and insert it into write - saving the image from goolge with a .jpg extension - although it will save
Re: [sugar] [RELEASE] Calculate 21
http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/Calculate-21.xo That package is malformed - it lacks the 'activity' subdirectory (including activity/activity.info). mikus ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
[sugar] letting the user specify the mesh channel
A question for Eben: G1G1. I've seen a large number of establishments provide an AP on channel 1. (Some on channel 6 - but rarely on channel 11.) This may be an incorrect observation, but it seems to me that, to date, my XO is slow to discriminate between a peer mesh existing on channel 1, versus commercial wifi occupying channel 1. The bypass I (and others) have used is to go to Neighborhood view, and manually click on the 'mesh 11' icon. Once our various XOs are meshed on channel 11, their further interaction appears to be free from interference from whatever channel 1 is being used for. My question concerns the 'New Design', where the mesh icons are removed from the Neighborhood view. Will the user still (now using the Frame) be able to choose to specifically mesh on channel 11 ? mikus ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] letting the user specify the mesh channel
On Thu, Aug 07, 2008 at 08:25:15AM -0400, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: A question for Eben: Though I'm not eben... Will the user still (now using the Frame) be able to choose to specifically mesh on channel 11 ? Yes. See http://dev.laptop.org/~mdengler/6995/6995_screenshot_45.png for an example of how I currently have it looking. mikus Martin pgpXKTAEAhnIO.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
[sugar] [RELEASE] sugar-base 0.82.1
sources: http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/sugar-base/sugar-base-0.82.1.tar.bz2 - update ALL_LINGUAS Best, Simon ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] letting the user specify the mesh channel
On 8/7/08, Martin Dengler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Aug 07, 2008 at 08:25:15AM -0400, Mikus Grinbergs wrote: A question for Eben: Though I'm not eben... Will the user still (now using the Frame) be able to choose to specifically mesh on channel 11 ? Yes. See http://dev.laptop.org/~mdengler/6995/6995_screenshot_45.png for an example of how I currently have it looking. Pretty nice! The only thing I'm wary about is whether the IP address should be there. It might be useful for devs and some G1G1 people but for children and teachers in the deployments this gotta be confusing... Just my 2 euro-cents, Christoph mikus Martin ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar -- Christoph Derndorfer co-editor, olpcnews url: www.olpcnews.com e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
[sugar] [RELEASE] Journal 97
sources: http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/journal-activity/Journal-97.tar.bz2 * added languages Norwegian and Slovenian * translation updates Best, Simon ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
[sugar] [RELEASE] sugar-datastore 0.82.0
sources: http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/sugar-datastore/sugar-datastore-0.82.0.tar.bz2 - no news only updated to get the 0.82 version Best, Simon ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
[sugar] [RELEASE] sugar-artwork 0.82.0
sources: http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/sugar-artwork/sugar-artwork-0.82.0.tar.bz2 7641: Install GTK compatibility symlinks using icon-naming-utils package. The GTK stock icons use pre-standardized icon names. The sugar theme uses icon names from http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/icon-naming-spec but GTK still uses its internal names for stock icons. In order for stock buttons, icons, and existing GTK applications to be themed correctly, we need to install symlinks. NOTE: This commit adds a build dependency on the icon-naming-utils package, available in both Fedora and Debian. Packagers, take note. Best, Simon ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
[sugar] [RELEASE] Browse 95
http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/web-activity/Browse-95.tar.bz2 = Closed tickets = * #7195 Corrupted multiple downloads at the same time = Testcases = #7195 Click on a link to initiate a download. That link's a element should have an onClick event handler that will initiate another download to a file with the same name. Check that two entries have been added to the journal and that its contents are correct. ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
[sugar] Firefox to adopt a Frame in the future?
In the following video, mozilla labs present Aurora, which showcases collaborative browsing and other concepts. Around time 4:50'' in the video, they present a Frame that shows: top: frequently used objects left: history: recently used objects left: temporary objects area, sorted by most recent bottom: objects in use right now http://labs.mozilla.com/projects/concept-series/ Pol -- Polychronis Ypodimatopoulos Graduate student Viral Communications MIT Media Lab Tel: +1 (617) 459-6058 http://www.mit.edu/~ypod/ ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
[sugar] notify::active signal behaviour change
Hi, In update1, when you launch an activity by clicking an icon, the activity receives a notify::active signal immediately after it has launched. Measure relies on this assumption. In 8.2, when launching an activity by clicking on the icon, no notify::active signal arrives on launch. However, if you launch from terminal with the sugar-launch command, the signal is indeed generated. Bug or feature? Thanks, Daniel ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] notify::active signal behaviour change
Daniel Drake wrote: Hi, In update1, when you launch an activity by clicking an icon, the activity receives a notify::active signal immediately after it has launched. Measure relies on this assumption. In 8.2, when launching an activity by clicking on the icon, no notify::active signal arrives on launch. However, if you launch from terminal with the sugar-launch command, the signal is indeed generated. Bug or feature? Bug, please trac it. Marco ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] letting the user specify the mesh channel
See http://dev.laptop.org/~mdengler/6995/6995_screenshot_45.png for an example of how I currently have it looking. Thank you. Currently, I use the presence of a 'Disconnect' entry in the palette as a mnemonic device to indicate to me that a connection currently exists. Would be nice to keep that. mikus p.s. For laughs: Now that you are *explicitly* showing channel numbers -- I have a friend whose home AP is on channel 9. At his house, I manually use 'iwconfig' to set my XO's radio to channel 9, to be able to connect to his AP. I haven't tried setting multiple XOs to channel 9 when there is no AP -- but if mesh were configured to run that way, would your palette show that? ;) ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] letting the user specify the mesh channel
On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 11:45 AM, Mikus Grinbergs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See http://dev.laptop.org/~mdengler/6995/6995_screenshot_45.png for an example of how I currently have it looking. Thank you. Currently, I use the presence of a 'Disconnect' entry in the palette as a mnemonic device to indicate to me that a connection currently exists. Would be nice to keep that. Hey Mikus - In the new designs, the Mesh device icon turns on (becomes colored) when the mesh is active, and is rendered in white when it's off. It should be even easier to tell the present state, without needing to dig into the palette. - Eben p.s. For laughs: Now that you are *explicitly* showing channel numbers -- I have a friend whose home AP is on channel 9. At his house, I manually use 'iwconfig' to set my XO's radio to channel 9, to be able to connect to his AP. I haven't tried setting multiple XOs to channel 9 when there is no AP -- but if mesh were configured to run that way, would your palette show that? ;) No, the mesh channels are independent* of the AP channels; if you connect to an AP on channel 9, you are not on the mesh, which is only offered on channels 1, 6, and 11. If you turn the mesh on, you'll implicitly be disconnected from an AP on channel 9. If you manually set the mesh channel otherwise, I doubt it will be reflected in this palette. * Note that in the future it will be possible to be connected on the mesh and to an AP, assuming they are both on the same channel. ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] [RELEASE] Pippy 24
Simon Schampijer wrote: sources: http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/pippy-activity/Pippy-24.tar.bz2 bundled: http://dev.laptop.org/~erikos/bundles/0.82/Pippy-24.xo - many new great translations Best, Simon ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar sources: http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/pippy-activity/Pippy-25.tar.bz2 bundled: http://dev.laptop.org/~erikos/bundles/0.82/Pippy-25.xo ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] [RELEASE] Log 12
Simon Schampijer wrote: sources: http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/log-activity/Log-12.tar.bz2 bundled: http://dev.laptop.org/~erikos/bundles/0.82/Log-12.xo - translation update Best, Simon ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar sources: http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/log-activity/Log-13.tar.bz2 bundled: http://dev.laptop.org/~erikos/bundles/0.82/Log-13.xo ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
[sugar] [RELEASE] Write 57
sources: http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/write-activity/Write-57.tar.bz2 bundled: http://dev.laptop.org/~erikos/bundles/0.82/Write-57.xo * added languages Norwegian and Slovenian * translation updates Best, Simon ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
[sugar] Please help test our new 8.2.0 weekly beta, joyride-2263!
We are thrilled to announce a new test build, joyride-2230, valid until Wednesday, August 13. Please help test it according to the detailed instructions at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Friends_in_testing while we still have time to fix issues you might find! Our specific interest this week continues to be activity compatibility: Does your favorite activity still run on joyride-2263? Currently known issues are recorded at: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Test_Group_Release_Notes#Build_Joyride_2263 New issues should be filed in our bug-tracking system (dev.laptop.org) according to http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Submitting_bugs or by notifying us by other means. Thanks! Michael ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Please help test our new 8.2.0 weekly beta, joyride-2263!
On Thu, Aug 07, 2008 at 02:45:56PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: We are thrilled to announce a new test build, joyride-2230, valid until Wednesday, August 13. Apologies for the text substitution failure. The correct build is, in fact, joyride-2263. Michael ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] [RELEASE] Calculate 21
Hi, Did bundlebuilder stuff change? I think I never included the activity directory in the MANIFEST, but it got picked up anyway. Also, the locale files got included automatically, but fail to do so now... Cheers, Reinier Mikus Grinbergs wrote: http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/Calculate-21.xo That package is malformed - it lacks the 'activity' subdirectory (including activity/activity.info). mikus -- Reinier Heeres Waalstraat 17 2515 XK Den Haag The Netherlands Tel: +31 6 10852639 ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
[sugar] [RELEASE] Calculate 23
Hi, The Calculate-23 bundle should now include all necessary files due to the updated MANIFEST file. http://dev.laptop.org/pub/sugar/sources/calculate-activity/Calculate-23.tar.bz2 http://dev.laptop.org/~rwh/Calculate-23.xo Regards, -- Reinier Heeres Waalstraat 17 2515 XK Den Haag The Netherlands Tel: +31 6 10852639 ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Physics games on XO, Info wanted
Etoys comes with a physics game and a few physics related examples. -- Yoshiki At Wed, 06 Aug 2008 21:33:33 -0500, Robert Myers wrote: ILXO is sponsoring a game jam this weekend. I'm going to talk about Physics games on the XO. Here's what I'm familiar with: Asteroids (and what I've done to it) X2o Space Tag Physics-0.2 Bounce (hey, it bounces and has gravity) Related stuff: Upcoming Jam in Cambridge Wiki discussions of various 2D physics engines Is there anything I'm missing? Is anyone hiding a project in their garage? Thanks, Bob ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Physics games on XO, Info wanted
I'm not sure if this has been mentioned, but there is a uk source for over 200 physics experiments offered by the virtual physics lab. These experiments work quite well through wine and are geared towards students from 13 up. I have used them on a linux only network without any issues for several years... There are some free samples on the website, but I'm sure that if someone contacts them and talks about the olpc project, they'd be happy to share more of them for free... website: http://ccgi.colpus.plus.com/vplabd/?q=node/16 Kind Regards, David Van Assche, OLE Nepal On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 4:00 AM, Yoshiki Ohshima [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Etoys comes with a physics game and a few physics related examples. -- Yoshiki At Wed, 06 Aug 2008 21:33:33 -0500, Robert Myers wrote: ILXO is sponsoring a game jam this weekend. I'm going to talk about Physics games on the XO. Here's what I'm familiar with: Asteroids (and what I've done to it) X2o Space Tag Physics-0.2 Bounce (hey, it bounces and has gravity) Related stuff: Upcoming Jam in Cambridge Wiki discussions of various 2D physics engines Is there anything I'm missing? Is anyone hiding a project in their garage? Thanks, Bob ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
Re: [sugar] Please help test our new 8.2.0 weekly beta, joyride-2263!
On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Martin Langhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is there a better / handier way? On first boot, it found my local School Server and up a big Software Update window popped, and said do you want to install all these activities. Colour me impressed. Bravo! Now, who's coded this up? I am keen on devising a way to fetch the activities locally (if an XS is present) via http or rsync. cheers, m -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff ___ Sugar mailing list Sugar@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/sugar
