Re: [sugar] xomail

2008-04-29 Thread Kevin Cole
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 10:05 PM, Joshua N Pritikin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I think a better angle on the problem is to be more aggressive about
  blocking email. Can we GPG sign email by default?

I hope you weren't serious about GPG either.  ;-)

I suppose people can tolerate a wee bit o' garbage at the end of their
messages, if for whatever reason they don't have access to GPG (e.g. I
don't get this list in my GPG-capable MUA, but use the web interface
-- and don't particularly like FireGPG).  But do you want people to
type a password on every send?  If not, aren't you kind of defeating
the whole point of GPG, or am I misunderstanding you?

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Re: [sugar] xomail

2008-04-29 Thread Joshua N Pritikin
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 11:27:56AM -0400, Kevin Cole wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 10:05 PM, Joshua N Pritikin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I think a better angle on the problem is to be more aggressive about
   blocking email. Can we GPG sign email by default?
 
 I hope you weren't serious about GPG either.  ;-)
 
 I suppose people can tolerate a wee bit o' garbage at the end of their
 messages, if for whatever reason they don't have access to GPG (e.g. I
 don't get this list in my GPG-capable MUA, but use the web interface
 -- and don't particularly like FireGPG).  But do you want people to
 type a password on every send?

No. The private key does not need to be password protected.

 If not, aren't you kind of defeating the whole point of GPG, or am I 
 misunderstanding you?

It's not a perfect strategy, I agree. However, I think it's better than 
nothing. The school server could be configured to bounce unsigned email or 
allow only certain whitelist signatures to pass through the mail server. 

If a kid really wants unrestricted email then Gmail exists. Email is 
great, but we need to protect kids until they are old enough to handle the 
responsibility.
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Re: [sugar] xomail

2008-04-28 Thread J.M. Maurer

On Tue, 2008-04-29 at 00:19 +0200, Shikhar wrote:
 J.M. Maurer wrote:
  On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 09:26 -0700, ValS wrote:

  Thanks for this wonderful program!  Speaking as an XO user, I am
  requesting a feature that I imagine would benefit any users that have
  internet access.   I would like to be able to use the Write function,
  and then send what  I have written in an email as an attachment.  That
  way, I can send it to others, send it to a computer with a printer,
  and use the written material  in various ways, even as a book.  So is
  there a chance of compatibility between the Write (and other)
  functions and the Browse (where we can access email)?
  
 
  If there is any service on the XO that can send email, then this would
  be trivial to add to Write. Isn't there a Google SoC application this
  year to create an an email thing based on tinymail for the XO ?
 
Marc

 While not an accepted application, I will be working on an email client 
 for the XO during June-August regardless. Support for attachments and 
 mailto: URI's is planned. The wiki page 
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Email_Activity details my ideas and I would 
 appreciate any suggestions.

Thanks, I'll keep an eye on it! :)

  Marc

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Re: [sugar] xomail

2008-04-28 Thread Martin Dengler
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 04:39:23PM -0700, Joshua N Pritikin wrote:
 Do we really want to encourage HTML email?

+1 to plain text email.  It seems one relevant concern is security.

Wikipedia's page is pretty good background reading
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML_e-mail

...and one pro-HTML mail view:

http://ukwebfocus.wordpress.com/2007/03/26/html-email-views-from-the-grizzled-techies-and-evil-marketeers/

Martin


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Re: [sugar] xomail

2008-04-28 Thread Shikhar
Martin Edmund Sevior wrote:

 Hi Shikar,
  You can immediately reuse the AbiWidget from libabiword for 
 your rich text HTML editor. libabiword has a very capable export 
 content to HTML feature. You can copy and paste the relevant parts 
 from the Write program to have the same interface as Write if you wish.

 Cheers

 Martin

That's great! It makes support for the feature feasible during the 
summer :-)

Shikhar
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Re: [sugar] xomail

2008-04-28 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Monday 28 April 2008, Joshua N Pritikin wrote:
 On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 09:32:45AM +1000, Martin Edmund Sevior wrote:
   You can immediately reuse the AbiWidget from libabiword for
   your rich text HTML editor. libabiword has a very capable
   export content to HTML feature. You can copy and paste the
   relevant parts from the Write program to have the same
   interface as Write if you wish.

 Do we really want to encourage HTML email? :-P
We should add the option,  but i would prefer plaintext as the default.

Dennis


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Re: [sugar] xomail

2008-04-28 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
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Joshua N Pritikin wrote:
| On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 07:39:13PM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
| On Monday 28 April 2008, Joshua N Pritikin wrote:
| Do we really want to encourage HTML email? :-P
| We should add the option,  but i would prefer plaintext as the default.
|
| I wasn't really serious about plain text email. I mean, do you want to
| try to explain to a 7 year old why he shouldn't email a photo to a
| friend?

Supporting attachments (and rendering them appropriately) is entirely
separate from automatically generating HTML for the body text.

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