Re: [Sugar-devel] youtube ...

2009-04-05 Thread Sean DALY
Video is, of course, the most stressful work one can ask of a
system, and the most common YouTube codecs these days (On2 VP6 and
H.264) are very processor-intensive.

Usually,the best workaround is to try to keep the framerate but
downsize to postage-stamp. No idea how that could be done though.

Sean


On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 5:57 PM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote:
 On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 11:28 PM, Luke Faraone l...@faraone.cc wrote:
 On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 10:36 PM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org
 wrote:

 On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Daniel Gross daniel.gr...@utoronto.ca
 wrote:
  Hello,
 
 
 
  I tried running youtube on the OLPC. The browser showed to click here to
  run
  flash, but flash never ran. Did anyone manage to run youtube in the
  browser?
  Is there a flash puggin needed? If so, does it exist?

 Gnash, which OLPC uses by default, is terrible in that version of the OS.
 Even if you installed the official Flash plugin from Adobe, it is too much
 overhead for the XO to handle. The best Youtube support I have seen on the
 XO is in debxo using totem plugins (written in C afaict and directly playing
 the video file through RSS magic)


 FWIW,

 I have not been able to get youtube on gnash working on ubuntu 8.10
 but it works fine on 9.04.

 But Ubuntu as a rule doesn't work well on the XO :(


 So, when sugar runs on ubuntu 9.04 we will be getting pretty close!

 I have not tried the latest version of Gnash in Jaunty, but if this is the
 case it will be most welcome, and will greatly ease the deployment of Sugar
 in schools.

 Still no luck getting the standard 9.04 Sugar packages to install and
 run on Sugar.  I could not do more testing of gnash in Sugar.

 But, when viewing youtube videos in gnash/firefox viewer on gnome both
 CPUs maxed out on my dual core 1.6GHz laptop:(

 david
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Proposal of Google Summer of Code

2009-04-05 Thread Jameson Quinn
Your mistake was that you created a document instead of a proposal in
google's web app. I have forwarded your message and explained the situation
to google's GSoC administrator to see what we can do. There's nothing else I
can do to help you.

Sincerely,
Jameson

On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício 
nathalia.sautc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Jameson,

 I did understand. I put my proposal in the Google's web app before the
 deadline. But, I checked now and it is not there anymore. I am desperate
 since I put a lot of effort on getting writing my proposal and everybody saw
 it during the last days.

 There are someting that could be done? I really want to participate in this
 GSoC and I can't understand why my proposal is not there

 Also, I put my proposal in the documents list inside the GSoC web, which
 you can check in the attached screenshot. It's is a copy of my proposal, and
 it is not modified after the deadline. Could Google consider this copy?

 Regards,

 Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício
 http://febracev.wordpress.com/

 Antes de imprimir, pense em sua responsabilidade social e com o MEIO
 AMBIENTE.


 On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 4:47 AM, Jameson Quinn jameson.qu...@gmail.comwrote:

 Nathalia, I am truly sorry, but since you did not get your application
 into Google's web app by the deadline, we are unable to consider you for
 Google Summer of Code. However, we would be happy if you are still
 interested in doing the project, and could probably assign you an unofficial
 mentor (I'll have to see how many slots Google assigns us before I can say
 that definitely though).

 I tried to make this clear, and it was clearly stated in several places on
 the mailing list, wiki, and google's site. I am sorry that I did not manage
 to get this message to you.

 Thanks,
 Jameson

  2009/4/3 Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício nathalia.sautc...@gmail.com

 Thanks a lot for all the feedbacks. It is very important.

 I improve my proposal, if anyone could read it I'm pleased.

 Regards

 Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício
 http://febracev.wordpress.com/

 Antes de imprimir, pense em sua responsabilidade social e com o MEIO
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 On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Eben Eliason e...@laptop.org wrote:

 I had this idea when I was making the very first mockups of Paint, and
 I think it's a great idea! Check out the mockup: it's the brush with
 the little gear next to it, which I always referred to as the
 behavior brush.
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Image:Activity_paint_tools.jpg

 The secondary palette for the brush would offer a list of different
 behaviors (which should be object which can be copied, shared,
 installed, etc., ideally). More importantly, the behaviors would be
 defined by simple scripts which took some basic pre-defined parameters
 (or maybe even allowed the creator of the behavior to define new
 parameters, linked to sliders or checkboxes or what have you...not
 sure), offered some predefined ways to size the brush, set colors,
 draw shapes, and make brush strokes, and thus allowed creation of
 behaviors with some simple syntax.

 As an example, you could have a mirror behavior which read in the
 current coordinates, and then made two marks with the brush mirrored
 across the middle of the canvas. A custom parameter could define which
 axis (or axes) were mirrored. You could have brushes which added
 randomness to the position making squiggly lines; or a brush which set
 the color based on the time to draw rainbow strokes; or a brush that
 worked like an airbrush of star shapes. The possibilities are endless,
 I think.

 Anyway, as Ben said, focus isn't on activities; but I wanted to chime
 in since I think this is truly a fantastic idea and I'd love to see it
 happen.

 Eben

 PS. I also had plans to allow behavior shapes, as well:
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Image:Activity_paint_shapes_polygon.jpg

 On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício
 nathalia.sautc...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hello everybody,
 
  I put my GSoC Proposal here:
  http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Summer_of_Code/2009/Oficina
 
  If somebody has a feedback send me an e-mail (personally or in this
 list) or
  put in the discussion page in wiki.
 
  Thanks a lot...
 
  Regards
 
  Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício
  http://febracev.wordpress.com/
 
  Antes de imprimir, pense em sua responsabilidade social e com o MEIO
  AMBIENTE.
 
 
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Call for Testers (New Snapshot!)

2009-04-05 Thread Sebastian Dziallas
Caroline Meeks wrote:
 On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Sebastian Dziallas sebast...@when.com 
 mailto:sebast...@when.com wrote:
 
 Hi Caroline,
 
 thanks for giving this a try! I added some comments below...
 
 By the way, would it be okay for you to get a final image by April
 7th or do you need one earlier?
 
 
 The ability to burn more then one USB at a time is still not working. If 
 it works April 7th is fine.  If it doesn't life is not going to be fun 
 for me.

Heh. Okay, I guess we'll see this tomorrow... ;)

 What of my wish list do you think I will get?
 
 Thanks,
 Caroline
 
 *Here is my wish list.*
 
 Add to favorites Ring:
 Slider Puzzle, Jigsaw Puzzle, Story Builder, Typing Turtle,
 Cartoon Builder,

I hope that everything works well, as I tried to add them manually. That 
will turn out in the next snapshot, which should be ready tomorrow.

 Take out of the favorites Ring
 Log, Terminal. Read
 
 Add a book or two for Read then add Read back to the favorites ring

Hm, we'd need some books to grab (preferable from a.sl.o)...

 Add Scratch and let me test it. It doesn't seem to be on the
 Activities Portal yet.

Well, this is kind of strange. I can see it's wiki page on laptop.org 
(http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/Scratch), but it seems like if it 
doesn't even have a GIT repo anymore (!) - that seems to be unavailable.

As far as I know, it has also not been migrated to SugarLabs, either, so 
I'm a bit lost. Is there still any development on this?

 Fix:
 Colors, Flipsticks and IRC and add the to the favorites Ring

IRC is working here.

Colors is reporting that it cannot find 'proper binary blobs' (fails 
with 'from colorsc import *'), and so is Bounce (fails with 'from pongc 
import *'). Maybe we're still missing some dependencies, I'm not yet 
sure... probably the activity maintainers know.

 I'm open to dissenting opinions here, this is just my current
 impressions of what would make a good demo stick.

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[Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Deadlines for upcoming FOSSVT Release

2009-04-05 Thread Sebastian Dziallas
Hi all,

as you'll have noticed, we're currently readying Sugar on a Stick for 
release, which is scheduled for April 10th. The roadmap is located here:

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Roadmap

So here's a quick heads-up for activity packagers and maintainers! I 
know, it's quite of short notice...

* SoaS will be frozen as of April 7th. The final image will be already 
composed on that date, as it takes some time to get everything together 
for FOSSVT.

* Sugar 0.84.2 is the version scheduled for inclusion.

* If you want to get your latest bits included, please get them ready as 
soon as possible!

We really need to get this done within the next two days, as we can 
spend only tomorrow on testing. If your package belongs to sucrose, you 
might need to get it build in koji, as well.

Please ping or e-mail me, if you've any concerns. Again, this is urgent!

Thanks and let's make this an awesome release,
--Your SoaS Team
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Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC Proposal: Multimedia Broadcasting

2009-04-05 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Benjamin M. Schwartz
bmsch...@fas.harvard.edu wrote:
 I'm not aware of any problems using UDP broadcast on 802.11abg.  Could you
 elaborate?

Broadcast frames will be sent at the lowest speed -- IIRC, ot should
be the lowest common speed supported by all associated nodes, but the
experimental outcomes lead to suspicion that many APs just go straight
for the lowest. That's 1Mbps. And it takes over all the air time
too, starving all other users.

So there is room for very interesting work in finding viable ways to
broadcast and unicast screencasts, but it will necessarily be a lot of
heavy lifting looking at the 802.11abg (and maybe even s) layer in
making broadcast work for many users in dense environments.

btw: sugar-dev back on the cc list -

cheers,



martin
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Call for Testers (New Snapshot!)

2009-04-05 Thread Carol Farlow Lerche
One choice -- Newberry medal winning children's books by women authors:

http://digital.library.upenn.edu/women/_collections/newbery/newbery.html

I have converted these to epub format including the illustrations found at
the website, very compact and accessible via fbreader.  How should they be
packaged to make them available?

On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Sebastian Dziallas sebast...@when.comwrote:

 Caroline Meeks wrote:
  On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 5:58 PM, Sebastian Dziallas sebast...@when.com
  mailto:sebast...@when.com wrote:
 
  Hi Caroline,
 
  thanks for giving this a try! I added some comments below...
 
  By the way, would it be okay for you to get a final image by April
  7th or do you need one earlier?
 
 
  The ability to burn more then one USB at a time is still not working. If
  it works April 7th is fine.  If it doesn't life is not going to be fun
  for me.

 Heh. Okay, I guess we'll see this tomorrow... ;)

  What of my wish list do you think I will get?
 
  Thanks,
  Caroline
 
  *Here is my wish list.*
 
  Add to favorites Ring:
  Slider Puzzle, Jigsaw Puzzle, Story Builder, Typing Turtle,
  Cartoon Builder,

 I hope that everything works well, as I tried to add them manually. That
 will turn out in the next snapshot, which should be ready tomorrow.

  Take out of the favorites Ring
  Log, Terminal. Read
 
  Add a book or two for Read then add Read back to the favorites
 ring

 Hm, we'd need some books to grab (preferable from a.sl.o)...

  Add Scratch and let me test it. It doesn't seem to be on the
  Activities Portal yet.

 Well, this is kind of strange. I can see it's wiki page on laptop.org
 (http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/Scratch), but it seems like if it
 doesn't even have a GIT repo anymore (!) - that seems to be unavailable.

 As far as I know, it has also not been migrated to SugarLabs, either, so
 I'm a bit lost. Is there still any development on this?

  Fix:
  Colors, Flipsticks and IRC and add the to the favorites Ring

 IRC is working here.

 Colors is reporting that it cannot find 'proper binary blobs' (fails
 with 'from colorsc import *'), and so is Bounce (fails with 'from pongc
 import *'). Maybe we're still missing some dependencies, I'm not yet
 sure... probably the activity maintainers know.

  I'm open to dissenting opinions here, this is just my current
  impressions of what would make a good demo stick.

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