Re: [Sugar-devel] RIT Math4Team PacMath Difficulties

2010-02-12 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 23:24, Walter Bender  wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 4:42 PM, Dennis Rodriguez (RIT Student)
>  wrote:
>> Hello,
>> My name is Dennis and I am currently part of the RIT OLPC class, currently
>> developing a program called PacMath for the Math4Team
>> (http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/PacMath).  My team members and I have no
>> previous experience with developing for sugar and recently have been getting
>> issues in terms of code.  We currently have python code using the pygame
>> libraries which work fine when run independently on the XO but attempts to
>> "sugarize", or make an activity, have been a hurdle for us.  Any advice or
>> input would be greatly appreciated.  Our code can be cloned
>> from: git://git.sugarlabs.org/pacmath/mainline.git.  Thank you for your
>> time.  Hope to hear from you guys soon.
>> Sincere Regards
>> Dennis Rodriguez
>> Rochester Institute of Technology
>>
>
> I would recommend you look at how other pygame-based activities are
> packaged. For example, Maze.
>
> http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/maze

Also, Jim's book could help clarifying several concepts, though I
don't see anything specific to pygame/sugargame.

Regards,

Tomeu

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[Sugar-devel] Video Chat, Video Editing and VOIP activities for Sugar

2010-02-12 Thread Manusheel Gupta
Dear friends,

6 developers working at SEETA  will be spearheading the
design and development of video chat, video editing and VOIP activities in
Sugar starting Feb. 15. We have been trying to arrive at a decision on the
approach to be followed -  designing the application and writing the code
from ground zero vs. porting an existing open source application to Sugar.

We have been examining a number of open source applications, and believe
that it will be easier to port the following applications to Sugar than
reinventing the wheel  -

1. Video Chat - Pidgin  (http://www.pidgin.im/)
2. Video Editor - PiTiVi  (http://www.pitivi.org/)
3. VOIP activity - Shtoom (http://divmod.org/trac/wiki/ShtoomProject)

Wish to have your feedback on issues, implementation strategies and external
dependencies that we might have overlooked.

Regards,

Manu
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[Sugar-devel] Test request: Wifi encryption changes...

2010-02-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi lists,

I've recently been working on wifi & wpa association issues  on the
8.2.x releases (F-9, NM-6.5, Sugar 0.82) and there is bug I would like
to ask people to test for with Strawberry (of F11 images on XO),
Blueberry and the 0.87 SoaS builds.

I have definitely seen it a long time ago, and it was known, but it
wasn't on dev.l.o as an open bug so I tracked it as
http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10021

To repro you need an XO or SoaS and an access point...

* Setup an AP with WPA or WPA2 encryption, with a passphrase
* Connect to it from XO giving the right passphrase
* On the AP, change the passphrase
* On the XO, reconnect. The reconnect will try to use the stored
passphrase, fail, and ask for a new passphrase. However, NM ignores
the new passphrase.

Similar issues are likely to exist with changing between no
encryption, WEP, WPA, WPA2.

Hopefully this is fixed in newer NM + Sugar, but it is something
nobody has been testing, and it does mess things up in the field so we
need your help...

If this gets fixed, then we can remove the ugly "delete network info"
button from the control panel (which is just a workaround for this).

(Why am I asking for this? I don't have equipment at all at this
moment, as I am "on the move".)

cheers,


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[Sugar-devel] Test request: Overwhelm chat

2010-02-12 Thread Martin Langhoff
Long time ago, we've seen Chat.xo get slower and slower as messages
pile up. It didn't seem to be a network issue, but a "draw it on the
screen" or perhaps on the scrollable canvas.

Here is the original bug report. It was done with an XS, and the
networking side (wifi, XS) was not saturated. It just seemed like Chat
could not handle the traffic for purely "local" reasons.

Does this still happen on SoaS Strawberry? Blueberry? Latest?

This one is easy to test with a few XOs or SoaS machines and
hiperactive testers... It will probably be more visible on XO-1s
because the CPU and GPU are fairly limited in performance.

(I ask Strawberry because that's the Sugar that gets deployed on XO-1.5s ;-) )



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[Sugar-devel] Tickets status - 3G Feature

2010-02-12 Thread Daniel Castelo
Just to be sure that we have the same status about this tickets.

The ticket 1652 "Add Connection Information to 3G (GSM) Modem Support" was
applied, but after that I received some improves to do. I could fix some of
theme (see the ticket information).

The ticket 1654 "Add Pin/Puk Configuration to 3G (GSM) Modem Support" was
not applied. I corrected some bugs produced by a previous merge with head. I
supposed that this patch will be applied in the next Sugar Version.

Regards, Daniel

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Video Chat, Video Editing and VOIP activities for Sugar

2010-02-12 Thread Benjamin M. Schwartz
Manusheel Gupta wrote:
> Dear friends,
> 
> 6 developers working at SEETA  will be spearheading the
> design and development of video chat, video editing and VOIP activities in
> Sugar starting Feb. 15.

Great!

> 1. Video Chat - Pidgin  (http://www.pidgin.im/)
> 3. VOIP activity - Shtoom (http://divmod.org/trac/wiki/ShtoomProject)

I think you'd be better off starting from Empathy
(http://live.gnome.org/Empathy), which already provides both features and
is built on the same communications platform (Telepathy) that Sugar
already uses.

> 2. Video Editor - PiTiVi  (http://www.pitivi.org/)

Yes. PiTiVi is the ideal starting point.

> Wish to have your feedback on issues, implementation strategies and external
> dependencies that we might have overlooked.

Definitely talk to the Telepathy developers (on their mailing list and
#telepathy on freenode).  They are very helpful.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Test request: Wifi encryption changes...

2010-02-12 Thread C. Scott Ananian
Clear network settings does have other uses, even in the absence of
bugs: you may want to remove a network from being autoselected, or
remove a password for a home network before lending your device to
someone.  In the absence of a per-connection editor (like nm-applet
has), "clear network settings" gets the job done.
  --scott

On Friday, February 12, 2010, Martin Langhoff  wrote:
> Hi lists,
>
> I've recently been working on wifi & wpa association issues  on the
> 8.2.x releases (F-9, NM-6.5, Sugar 0.82) and there is bug I would like
> to ask people to test for with Strawberry (of F11 images on XO),
> Blueberry and the 0.87 SoaS builds.
>
> I have definitely seen it a long time ago, and it was known, but it
> wasn't on dev.l.o as an open bug so I tracked it as
> http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10021
>
> To repro you need an XO or SoaS and an access point...
>
> * Setup an AP with WPA or WPA2 encryption, with a passphrase
> * Connect to it from XO giving the right passphrase
> * On the AP, change the passphrase
> * On the XO, reconnect. The reconnect will try to use the stored
> passphrase, fail, and ask for a new passphrase. However, NM ignores
> the new passphrase.
>
> Similar issues are likely to exist with changing between no
> encryption, WEP, WPA, WPA2.
>
> Hopefully this is fixed in newer NM + Sugar, but it is something
> nobody has been testing, and it does mess things up in the field so we
> need your help...
>
> If this gets fixed, then we can remove the ugly "delete network info"
> button from the control panel (which is just a workaround for this).
>
> (Why am I asking for this? I don't have equipment at all at this
> moment, as I am "on the move".)
>
> cheers,
>
>
> martín
> --
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Video Chat, Video Editing and VOIP activities for Sugar

2010-02-12 Thread Chris Ball
Hi Manu,

   > We have been examining a number of open source applications, and
   > believe that it will be easier to port the following applications
   > to Sugar than reinventing the wheel.
   > 
   > 1. Video Chat - Pidgin

This one's surprising, since the Sugar collaboration stack is based on
Telepathy, and Pidgin isn't.  Empathy would be a better base.

Of course, it would also make sense to look at the Video Chat activity,
even though it needs work.  The Telepathy folks might be able to advise
you on what its next steps should be, if you decide to work on it.

http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Video_Chat
http://dev.laptop.org/git/projects/video-chat-activity
http://lists.laptop.org/pipermail/devel/2008-April/013227.html

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] Video Chat, Video Editing and VOIP activities for Sugar

2010-02-12 Thread Sayamindu Dasgupta
Hi,

On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 4:53 PM, Manusheel Gupta  wrote:
> Dear friends,
>
> 6 developers working at SEETA will be spearheading the design and
> development of video chat, video editing and VOIP activities in Sugar
> starting Feb. 15. We have been trying to arrive at a decision on the
> approach to be followed -  designing the application and writing the code
> from ground zero vs. porting an existing open source application to Sugar.
>
> We have been examining a number of open source applications, and believe
> that it will be easier to port the following applications to Sugar than
> reinventing the wheel  -
>
> 1. Video Chat - Pidgin  (http://www.pidgin.im/)
> 2. Video Editor - PiTiVi  (http://www.pitivi.org/)

For Video Editor, you may want to take a look at OpenShot
(http://www.openshotvideo.com/). I tried it out a couple of weeks back
and it seemed to be quite impressive as far a basic video editor goes.

Cheers,
Sayamindu

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Re: [Sugar-devel] RIT Math4Team PacMath Difficulties

2010-02-12 Thread Jim Simmons
Dennis,

There is a project in Gitorious that sounds like it might be of use to you:

http://git.sugarlabs.org/projects/sugargame

I haven't tried it myself, but the description sounds promising.

James Simmons


> Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:42:15 -0500
> From: "Dennis Rodriguez (RIT Student)" 
> Subject: [Sugar-devel] RIT Math4Team PacMath Difficulties
> To: sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org
> Cc: David Shein 
> Message-ID:
>        <98c6a2401002111342u58f90b4eo23358d5738639...@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Hello,
>
> My name is Dennis and I am currently part of the RIT OLPC class, currently
> developing a program called PacMath for the Math4Team (
> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/PacMath).  My team members and I have no
> previous experience with developing for sugar and recently have been getting
> issues in terms of code.  We currently have python code using the pygame
> libraries which work fine when run independently on the XO but attempts to
> "sugarize", or make an activity, have been a hurdle for us.  Any advice or
> input would be greatly appreciated.  Our code can be cloned from: git://
> git.sugarlabs.org/pacmath/mainline.git.  Thank you for your time.  Hope to
> hear from you guys soon.
>
> Sincere Regards
>
> Dennis Rodriguez
> Rochester Institute of Technology
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[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] sugar-artwork-0.87.2

2010-02-12 Thread Simon Schampijer
== Source ==

http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/glucose/sugar-artwork/sugar-artwork-0.87.2.tar.bz2

==News ==

* Add network-gsm icon

* Implement transparent-bg-hint so that mozilla can draw entries properly.
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[Sugar-devel] Fedora Sugar Packaging Queue

2010-02-12 Thread Sebastian Dziallas
Hi all,

I'd like to take the chance to hint once more at our tracking bug [1], 
as well as the activity wiki page [2]. Recently, TamTam has been posted 
for review, too. I'm a little disappointed with the speed we're 
progressing with.

Here's a list of the currently most important things we need to get in.

Settings Manager - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=563598
NoDM - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=559559

TamTam Suite - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=564425
Typing Turtle - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=559213

Other reviews still require action, either by the packager or the 
reviewer. I'm going to ping the owners directly.

In other news, we're being blocked by licensing issues for some 
activities and the boot screen, as I've posted before.

If you get a second, please go ahead and help to unblock us here - for 
example by reviewing a package (these aren't really that complicated, so 
it shouldn't take too long) or by packaging an activity from the list.

Thanks,
--Sebastian

[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=558617
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Sugar_Activities
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity & SoaS Licensing Concerns

2010-02-12 Thread Sebastian Dziallas
Sebastian Dziallas wrote:
> Sebastian Dziallas wrote:
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> I've lately taken the task of packaging more activities to get us a
>> reasonably user experience for the next iteration of SoaS. The normal
>> review process requires an application to be properly and clearly
>> licensed. I'd like to encourage activity authors to work on getting
>> these clarifications, if needed, committed into GIT.
>>
>> For example, if your activity doesn't contain a license file that states
>> unambiguously the licenses of the *whole* activity and all of its
>> bundled libraries, a kind of per-file licensing would be good, as some
>> files would be otherwise without a license specification.
>>
>> I'm not trying to make things up here, but am rather just realistic, as
>> such things are simply blockers. I'll try to follow up with people...
>
> Actually, another topic is the SoaS boot screen. Since we need to get
> that packaged in Fedora in time (meaning basically as soon as possible),
> we need to have a public location where we host a tarball or a GIT repo
> of the boot screen picture files, together with licensing information.
>
> Can I just move ahead and put them in git.sl.o?

Just to make sure everybody understands what this is about. If we are 
unable clarify this, there won't be a boot screen specifically for SoaS 
at all.

If nobody complains by the end of this weekend, I'll just upload the 
images, put a GPLv2+ license in the archive and make a tarball, as this 
is what they've been listed under in Strawberry and Blueberry, too.

--Sebastian

>> Thanks,
>> --Sebastian
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity & SoaS Licensing Concerns

2010-02-12 Thread Tim McNamara
On 13 February 2010 09:15, Sebastian Dziallas  wrote:

> If nobody complains by the end of this weekend, I'll just upload the
> images, put a GPLv2+ license in the archive and make a tarball, as this
> is what they've been listed under in Strawberry and Blueberry, too.
>
> --Sebastian
>
>
Sebastian, apparently the GPL isn't really that great for creative works,
like images & documents. Will see if I can get some more info by the end of
the weekend.

Tim
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity & SoaS Licensing Concerns

2010-02-12 Thread Sebastian Dziallas
Tim McNamara wrote:
> On 13 February 2010 09:15, Sebastian Dziallas  > wrote:
>
> If nobody complains by the end of this weekend, I'll just upload the
> images, put a GPLv2+ license in the archive and make a tarball, as this
> is what they've been listed under in Strawberry and Blueberry, too.
>
> --Sebastian
>
>
> Sebastian, apparently the GPL isn't really that great for creative
> works, like images & documents. Will see if I can get some more info by
> the end of the weekend.
>
> Tim

Alright, so here's the thing: I basically don't care what it's licensed 
under, as long as it's in the blessed license list either here [1] or 
here [2]. It would make certainly sense to go with a content license 
instead, agreed.

And I guess from how our logo policy [3] looks like, we might need to 
have a some more restrictive one there, since the tarball would 
essentially only bundle the boot screen (I guess it wouldn't make much 
sense to put something that's intended for SoaS in the sugar-artwork 
package, right? - Simon?).

 From the wiki table in [2], it looks like we could go with a CC-BY-ND, 
too. Is everybody alright with this?

--Sebastian

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing#Good_Licenses
[2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing#Good_Licenses_3
[3] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Logo#Logo_usage
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[Sugar-devel] FileShare Activity Feedback and Review Request

2010-02-12 Thread Justin Lewis
I am looking for testing, feedback, and reviews of my File Share
Activity so that I may find/fix any remaining bugs and hopefully
nominate it for public release on activities.sugarlabs.org.

The activity can be found here:
http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4266

Justin Lewis
http://people.rit.edu/~jtl1728
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[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Our Music MC-2

2010-02-12 Thread Sugar Labs Activities
Activity Homepage:
http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4227

Sugar Platform:
0.84 - 0.86

Download Now:
http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/26585/ourmusicmc-2.xo

Release notes:



Sugar Labs Activities
http://activities.sugarlabs.org

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[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Our Music-2

2010-02-12 Thread Sugar Labs Activities
Activity Homepage:
http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4226

Sugar Platform:
0.82 - 0.86

Download Now:
http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/26584/ourmusic-2.xo

Release notes:



Sugar Labs Activities
http://activities.sugarlabs.org

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Fedora Sugar Packaging Queue

2010-02-12 Thread James Cameron
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 09:11:02PM +0100, Sebastian Dziallas wrote:
> In other news, we're being blocked by licensing issues for some 
> activities and the boot screen, as I've posted before.

I've recently submitted patches to bugs.sugarlabs.org for two activities
because we had identified them in dev.laptop.org bugs as having
inadequately described licenses in code and packaging, but are there
other activities that need this review?

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity & SoaS Licensing Concerns

2010-02-12 Thread Luke Faraone

On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 16:15, Sebastian Dziallas  wrote:

And I guess from how our logo policy [3] looks like, we might need to
have a some more restrictive one there


IANAL, but from my understanding, the license of the logo file does not change the trademark license, which is always in effect. 



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[Sugar-devel] Problem importing hulahop.webview() in sugar emulator

2010-02-12 Thread vijit singh
Hello everyone,

SocialCalc is based upon the use of hulahop.webview widget. While trying to
run socialcalc on sugar emulator running on Fedora and Ubuntu, error saying
"No module hulahop" was occurring. So, we tried installing hulahop on these
linux distributions.

*1. Firstly we tried with ubuntu-8.10, here are the exact steps taken- *

* **xulrunner was pre-installed. And then I installed python-support.deb and
libxul0d.deb which are pre-requistie packages for python-xpcom package
(other pre-requistie packages were already installed). Then i installed
python-xpcom. And then I installed python-hulahop and hulahop. *

*Downlaod links for these packages are as follows:-*
*http://packages.ubuntu.com/en/intrepid/python/python-xpcom*
* **
http://packages.ubuntu.com/en/intrepid/hulahop*
*
**http://packages.ubuntu.com/en/intrepid/python-hulahop*

Now, though hulahop was getting imported but while using hulahop.webview, an
error saying "hulahop has no attribute webview" occured. However, when we
checked the hulahop folder, there was a file named webview.py, so this
problem might be because of some kind of wrongly set library paths.

*2. Then we tried it with ubuntu-9.10, with similar steps but got the same
result.*
*
*
*3. Then we tried it with fedora-11-*
*
*
*Installed hulahop and then xpcom from the following link- **
http://www.rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/mandriva/2009.1/i586/media/main/release/python-xpcom-1.9.0.8-1mdv2009.1.i586.html
*

Now, when we tried to use hulahop.webview, the following error occured-
http://pastebin.be/23452. though hulahop was getting imported properly in
this case as well.

Could someone please guide us about what are right steps in case we are
wrong somewhere. Also has anyone been able to use
hulahop.webview  successfully on linux distros before?

Regards,
VIJIT
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Problem importing hulahop.webview() in sugar emulator

2010-02-12 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 05:06:38AM +0530, vijit singh wrote:
> Hello everyone,
> 
> SocialCalc is based upon the use of hulahop.webview widget. While trying to
> run socialcalc on sugar emulator running on Fedora and Ubuntu, error saying
> "No module hulahop" was occurring. So, we tried installing hulahop on these
> linux distributions.
> 
> *1. Firstly we tried with ubuntu-8.10, here are the exact steps taken- *
> 
> * **xulrunner was pre-installed. And then I installed python-support.deb and
> libxul0d.deb which are pre-requistie packages for python-xpcom package
> (other pre-requistie packages were already installed). Then i installed
> python-xpcom. And then I installed python-hulahop and hulahop. *
> 
> *Downlaod links for these packages are as follows:-*
> *http://packages.ubuntu.com/en/intrepid/python/python-xpcom*
> * **
> http://packages.ubuntu.com/en/intrepid/hulahop*
> *
> **http://packages.ubuntu.com/en/intrepid/python-hulahop*
> 
> Now, though hulahop was getting imported but while using hulahop.webview, an
> error saying "hulahop has no attribute webview" occured. However, when we
> checked the hulahop folder, there was a file named webview.py, so this
> problem might be because of some kind of wrongly set library paths.
> 
> *2. Then we tried it with ubuntu-9.10, with similar steps but got the same
> result.*

for all ubuntu versions before 10.04(10.04 uses debian packages),
try sugar repos from
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Ubuntu
the package is python-hulahop

but it supports only 9.10, 9.04, 8.04
not sure if supporting 8.10 makes sense today, since LTS is 8.04

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Test request: Wifi encryption changes...

2010-02-12 Thread James Cameron
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 01:48:35PM +0100, Martin Langhoff wrote:
> Similar issues are likely to exist with changing between no
> encryption, WEP, WPA, WPA2.

Yes, dev.laptop.org #9977 (AP association failure after removing
encryption), and Sugar Labs #1673 (discard network history does
nothing).

> If this gets fixed, then we can remove the ugly "delete network info"
> button from the control panel (which is just a workaround for this).

I think that something that prevents automatic connection to a network
that you previously trusted is still worthwhile.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] FileShare Activity Feedback and Review Request

2010-02-12 Thread Tim McNamara
Justin,

Alastair, Grant & I had a great time with this app this morning. Seemed to
work great.

>From a UI perspective, I found myself wanting to click files to download
pending ones. This may be a hangup from too much web experience. Having to
click on the icon at the top took a little bit of retraining :)

Well done!

Tim.

On 13 February 2010 10:49, Justin Lewis  wrote:

> I am looking for testing, feedback, and reviews of my File Share
> Activity so that I may find/fix any remaining bugs and hopefully
> nominate it for public release on activities.sugarlabs.org.
>
> The activity can be found here:
> http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4266
>
> Justin Lewis
> http://people.rit.edu/~jtl1728
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Activity & SoaS Licensing Concerns

2010-02-12 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 4:15 AM, Sebastian Dziallas wrote:

> Sebastian Dziallas wrote:
> > Sebastian Dziallas wrote:
> >> Hi folks,
> >>
> >> I've lately taken the task of packaging more activities to get us a
> >> reasonably user experience for the next iteration of SoaS. The normal
> >> review process requires an application to be properly and clearly
> >> licensed. I'd like to encourage activity authors to work on getting
> >> these clarifications, if needed, committed into GIT.
> >>
> >> For example, if your activity doesn't contain a license file that states
> >> unambiguously the licenses of the *whole* activity and all of its
> >> bundled libraries, a kind of per-file licensing would be good, as some
> >> files would be otherwise without a license specification.
> >>
> >> I'm not trying to make things up here, but am rather just realistic, as
> >> such things are simply blockers. I'll try to follow up with people...
> >
> > Actually, another topic is the SoaS boot screen. Since we need to get
> > that packaged in Fedora in time (meaning basically as soon as possible),
> > we need to have a public location where we host a tarball or a GIT repo
> > of the boot screen picture files, together with licensing information.
> >
> > Can I just move ahead and put them in git.sl.o?
>
> Just to make sure everybody understands what this is about. If we are
> unable clarify this, there won't be a boot screen specifically for SoaS
> at all.
>

Or we use one of the standard fedora plymouth ones with a Sugar logo (ie a
boot screen but not the usual 'clock' style. Like the current F-12 one but
with the sugar logo.


> If nobody complains by the end of this weekend, I'll just upload the
> images, put a GPLv2+ license in the archive and make a tarball, as this
> is what they've been listed under in Strawberry and Blueberry, too.
>

 Not sure whether that is such a good idea. I know at least dsd has
contributed to the boot_splash stuff. Might be worth checking with him.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Fedora Sugar Packaging Queue

2010-02-12 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 6:50 AM, James Cameron  wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 09:11:02PM +0100, Sebastian Dziallas wrote:
> > In other news, we're being blocked by licensing issues for some
> > activities and the boot screen, as I've posted before.
>
> I've recently submitted patches to bugs.sugarlabs.org for two activities
> because we had identified them in dev.laptop.org bugs as having
> inadequately described licenses in code and packaging, but are there
> other activities that need this review?
>
>
Bug numbers?

Peter
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Fedora Sugar Packaging Queue

2010-02-12 Thread James Cameron
On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 09:42:43AM +0800, Peter Robinson wrote:
> Bug numbers?

SL#1571 for Pippy, just a tiny fix.
SL#1695 for Physics, with a detailed review.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Fedora Sugar Packaging Queue

2010-02-12 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 12.02.2010, at 12:11, Sebastian Dziallas wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I'd like to take the chance to hint once more at our tracking bug [1], 

> [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=558617

This should also depend on #520294.

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