[Sugar-devel] Bundlebuilder dev command
Hello, as discussed in another thread, the sugar-toolkit bundlebuilder dev command is not respecting the SUGAR_ACTIVITIES_PATH (a fix for that landed in sugar-toolkit-gtk3 recently). I wonder if we should just drop the dev command, and suggest to develop directly in sugar-build/activities (or ~/Activities when outside sugar-build). All that the command does is to create a symlink anyway, if someone really wants they can do that themselves easily... As it is, the dev command feels like unnecessary magic to me. -- Daniel Narvaez ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] Pushing a project built onto OLPCGames onto github : files to exclude ?
Hello, I am building an activity based on OLPCGames 1.6, so I downloaded the version 1.6, and used the skeleton in order to generate my project fondations. But the project contains a symlink (added during the project generation) to a subfolder of OLPCGame folder, the one containing classes defining OLPCGame library (OLPCGameRoot/olpcgames). So i am wondering if, in order to push my project to my sugar labs gitorious account, I need to exclude this symlink, or if I must keep it. Regards. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Is it possible to access to my Host System home folder from sugar-build instance ?
Another issue that activity developers encounter is lack of access to ~/Documents. xdg-user-dir find the chroot home rather than the developer's home. Also, for some reason, I cannot get the debug file to be read by sugar. I've tried updating it in sugar-build, in /var/broot, and ~/.sugar but it seems to be ignored :( -walter On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 7:18 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: On 15 September 2013 01:15, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: With the latest sugar-build the user installed activities are in sugar-build/activities. Outside of broot? Well, both inside and outside (the sugar-build directory is bind mounted inside the chroot). ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Bundlebuilder dev command
developers should be able to grok sugar-build/activities (as long as it is documented -- see PR-41). -walter On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 4:13 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, as discussed in another thread, the sugar-toolkit bundlebuilder dev command is not respecting the SUGAR_ACTIVITIES_PATH (a fix for that landed in sugar-toolkit-gtk3 recently). I wonder if we should just drop the dev command, and suggest to develop directly in sugar-build/activities (or ~/Activities when outside sugar-build). All that the command does is to create a symlink anyway, if someone really wants they can do that themselves easily... As it is, the dev command feels like unnecessary magic to me. -- Daniel Narvaez -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Pushing a project built onto OLPCGames onto github : files to exclude ?
The symlink points somewhere outside your activity directory? On 15 September 2013 14:08, laurent bernabe laurent.bern...@gmail.comwrote: Hello, I am building an activity based on OLPCGames 1.6, so I downloaded the version 1.6, and used the skeleton in order to generate my project fondations. But the project contains a symlink (added during the project generation) to a subfolder of OLPCGame folder, the one containing classes defining OLPCGame library (OLPCGameRoot/olpcgames). So i am wondering if, in order to push my project to my sugar labs gitorious account, I need to exclude this symlink, or if I must keep it. Regards. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Daniel Narvaez ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Is it possible to access to my Host System home folder from sugar-build instance ?
On 15 September 2013 14:12, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: Another issue that activity developers encounter is lack of access to ~/Documents. xdg-user-dir find the chroot home rather than the developer's home. Are you using ~/Documents to exchange stuff between your main desktop and sugar? Also, for some reason, I cannot get the debug file to be read by sugar. I've tried updating it in sugar-build, in /var/broot, and ~/.sugar but it seems to be ignored :( Hmm something seems broken, a sugar-build/home/default/debug file is supposed to exist, and at least here I don't see one. Probably one more bug I didn't manage to fix with my set of patches. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Bundlebuilder dev command
Link to the pull request? I don't see it in the sugarlabs/ list. On 15 September 2013 14:16, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: developers should be able to grok sugar-build/activities (as long as it is documented -- see PR-41). -walter On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 4:13 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, as discussed in another thread, the sugar-toolkit bundlebuilder dev command is not respecting the SUGAR_ACTIVITIES_PATH (a fix for that landed in sugar-toolkit-gtk3 recently). I wonder if we should just drop the dev command, and suggest to develop directly in sugar-build/activities (or ~/Activities when outside sugar-build). All that the command does is to create a symlink anyway, if someone really wants they can do that themselves easily... As it is, the dev command feels like unnecessary magic to me. -- Daniel Narvaez -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org -- Daniel Narvaez ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Is it possible to access to my Host System home folder from sugar-build instance ?
On 15 September 2013 15:15, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: On 15 September 2013 14:12, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: Another issue that activity developers encounter is lack of access to ~/Documents. xdg-user-dir find the chroot home rather than the developer's home. Are you using ~/Documents to exchange stuff between your main desktop and sugar? What about sugar-build/home/documents? It should be possible to make that work. Also, for some reason, I cannot get the debug file to be read by sugar. I've tried updating it in sugar-build, in /var/broot, and ~/.sugar but it seems to be ignored :( Hmm something seems broken, a sugar-build/home/default/debug file is supposed to exist, and at least here I don't see one. Probably one more bug I didn't manage to fix with my set of patches. Yeah one stupid mistake on my side and a more tricky bug... I'll see if I can just move this to the sugar script, it should be called as early as possible and it should look nicer in a shell script anyway. -- Daniel Narvaez ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Pushing a project built onto OLPCGames onto github : files to exclude ?
yes, it points to a folder above. 2013/9/15 Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com The symlink points somewhere outside your activity directory? On 15 September 2013 14:08, laurent bernabe laurent.bern...@gmail.comwrote: Hello, I am building an activity based on OLPCGames 1.6, so I downloaded the version 1.6, and used the skeleton in order to generate my project fondations. But the project contains a symlink (added during the project generation) to a subfolder of OLPCGame folder, the one containing classes defining OLPCGame library (OLPCGameRoot/olpcgames). So i am wondering if, in order to push my project to my sugar labs gitorious account, I need to exclude this symlink, or if I must keep it. Regards. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Daniel Narvaez ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Pushing a project built onto OLPCGames onto github : files to exclude ?
I know nothing about olpcgames but I wouldn't put that symlink in git. It will just be a broken symlink for people that clone the repository... On 15 September 2013 16:14, laurent bernabe laurent.bern...@gmail.comwrote: yes, it points to a folder above. 2013/9/15 Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com The symlink points somewhere outside your activity directory? On 15 September 2013 14:08, laurent bernabe laurent.bern...@gmail.comwrote: Hello, I am building an activity based on OLPCGames 1.6, so I downloaded the version 1.6, and used the skeleton in order to generate my project fondations. But the project contains a symlink (added during the project generation) to a subfolder of OLPCGame folder, the one containing classes defining OLPCGame library (OLPCGameRoot/olpcgames). So i am wondering if, in order to push my project to my sugar labs gitorious account, I need to exclude this symlink, or if I must keep it. Regards. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Daniel Narvaez -- Daniel Narvaez ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Is it possible to access to my Host System home folder from sugar-build instance ?
On 15 September 2013 15:44, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah one stupid mistake on my side and a more tricky bug... I'll see if I can just move this to the sugar script, it should be called as early as possible and it should look nicer in a shell script anyway. https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/pull/100 https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-toolkit-gtk3/pull/40 ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Is it possible to access to my Host System home folder from sugar-build instance ?
On 15 September 2013 15:44, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: On 15 September 2013 15:15, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: On 15 September 2013 14:12, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.comwrote: Another issue that activity developers encounter is lack of access to ~/Documents. xdg-user-dir find the chroot home rather than the developer's home. Are you using ~/Documents to exchange stuff between your main desktop and sugar? What about sugar-build/home/documents? It should be possible to make that work. The only other alternative I can think of is to mount ~/Documents inside the chroot. I'm not really keen about that though, because if you (or sugar-build) accidentally deleted the chroot with ~/Documents mounted, you would also delete it's content from the host system... I'm not sure if there is a way around that, I think it's also the reason I decided to mount only sugar-build instead of the whole user home... ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Pushing a project built onto OLPCGames onto github : files to exclude ?
Ok, thanks, so I'll exclude this symlink. Regards 2013/9/15 Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com I know nothing about olpcgames but I wouldn't put that symlink in git. It will just be a broken symlink for people that clone the repository... On 15 September 2013 16:14, laurent bernabe laurent.bern...@gmail.comwrote: yes, it points to a folder above. 2013/9/15 Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com The symlink points somewhere outside your activity directory? On 15 September 2013 14:08, laurent bernabe laurent.bern...@gmail.comwrote: Hello, I am building an activity based on OLPCGames 1.6, so I downloaded the version 1.6, and used the skeleton in order to generate my project fondations. But the project contains a symlink (added during the project generation) to a subfolder of OLPCGame folder, the one containing classes defining OLPCGame library (OLPCGameRoot/olpcgames). So i am wondering if, in order to push my project to my sugar labs gitorious account, I need to exclude this symlink, or if I must keep it. Regards. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Daniel Narvaez -- Daniel Narvaez ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Bundlebuilder dev command
https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-docs/pull/43 On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 9:17 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: Link to the pull request? I don't see it in the sugarlabs/ list. On 15 September 2013 14:16, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: developers should be able to grok sugar-build/activities (as long as it is documented -- see PR-41). -walter On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 4:13 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, as discussed in another thread, the sugar-toolkit bundlebuilder dev command is not respecting the SUGAR_ACTIVITIES_PATH (a fix for that landed in sugar-toolkit-gtk3 recently). I wonder if we should just drop the dev command, and suggest to develop directly in sugar-build/activities (or ~/Activities when outside sugar-build). All that the command does is to create a symlink anyway, if someone really wants they can do that themselves easily... As it is, the dev command feels like unnecessary magic to me. -- Daniel Narvaez -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org -- Daniel Narvaez -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Is it possible to access to my Host System home folder from sugar-build instance ?
On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 9:15 AM, Daniel Narvaez dwnarv...@gmail.com wrote: On 15 September 2013 14:12, Walter Bender walter.ben...@gmail.com wrote: Another issue that activity developers encounter is lack of access to ~/Documents. xdg-user-dir find the chroot home rather than the developer's home. Are you using ~/Documents to exchange stuff between your main desktop and sugar? Yes.. Used by, for example, the Background cpsection. It is an integral part of Sugar that would be nice to be able to test in the devel environment. Also, for some reason, I cannot get the debug file to be read by sugar. I've tried updating it in sugar-build, in /var/broot, and ~/.sugar but it seems to be ignored :( Hmm something seems broken, a sugar-build/home/default/debug file is supposed to exist, and at least here I don't see one. Probably one more bug I didn't manage to fix with my set of patches. -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Markdown Activity-2
Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4705 Sugar Platform: 0.100 - 0.100 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/28767/markdown-2.xo Release notes: - Changed markdown editor font to Monospace - Added an insert text button which allows users to insert text/markdown content into the activity. Sugar Labs Activities http://activities.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Sugar on a $100 tablet!
2013/9/11 George Hunt georgejh...@gmail.com: I have a nexus, and I'm anxious to learn how to swap out OS, reload stuff, etc. The first step is to install Ubuntu on it, you can follow this howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation But I recommend following the procedure to install Multirom to have dual boot instead: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2011403 The only downside is that it seems to interfere with Android system updates, so you need to upgrade your Android rom manually after that. Backup and be patient, it takes some time. When you have ubuntu running on the nexus, activate the on-scren-keyboard (small icon on the top bar), open the terminal, install ssh and connect to it. Become root and run this script: http://ubuntu.activitycentral.com/install_sugar_on_nexus_7.sh This will set some configs, install a bunch of packages including Sugar, and install some activities as well. There are some bugs (mainly in the journal) I'm working in, but it is already pretty usable. Please report your findings! :) Does Ubuntu talk directly to the hardware? Yes. The first part of the procedure installs ubuntu in the android storage space (a file containing a disk image with ubuntu inside). The bootloader then is able to run it instead of android by using kexec. This means there is no emulation, you use Ubuntu as if it was installed on the machine by itself, and no Android software runs alongside it. If so, how much variation is there in the hardware? If most tablets are based on arm SOC's, this might work across many hardware platforms. There is a lot of variation between SOC's, in particular you will have to fight with the graphics support, the bootloader, the power management... A recent Linus rant on the topic:https://lkml.org/lkml/2013/9/9/562 I hope that ARM SoC hardware designers all die in some incredibly painful accident In any case with more or less effort we can make sugar work on any machine that already runs GNU/Linux. In the case of the nexus I understand Canonical and Google partnered to make it work as a development exercise. But new arm devices running standard-non-android-distros appear every day, and several platforms are already becoming popular, so it is a path worth exploring. -- Rubén Rodríguez Activity Central: http://activitycentral.com Facebook: https://activitycentral.com/facebook Google+: https://activitycentral.com/googleplus Twitter: https://activitycentral.com/twitter ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
