Re: [Sugar-devel] making codova platform add command work for sugar
1. here's a kind of url you told about : https://github.com/puneetgkaur/sugar-web-template/releases/tag/3.5.0 , but it doesn't help 2. Just to try out if things work what I did was to keep an entry in platforms.js as follows : 'sugar':{ parser: './metadata/sugar_parser', url: 'https://github.com/apache/cordova-android.git', version: '3.5.0' } just changed the name but kept the url same as android, now the interesting thing which happens is that with cordova platform add sugar command it gives the following error: Error: incorrect header check at Zlib._binding.onerror (zlib.js:295:17) while with android command it works perfectly fine. so what could be possible reason behind this ? 3.Also I observed in ~/.cordova/lib, there are directories with the name of amazon-fireos,android,firefoxos,ios,tmp,ubuntu,www how are these directories created ? and is this a possible reason behind the issue (for there's no sugar directory there) ? On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 2:56 AM, Puneet Kaur puneet.gk...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks :-) On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 2:40 AM, purplecabbage purplecabb...@gmail.com wrote: You specify a version of 3.5.0 so the downloader component is expecting to get a zipped version of the repo at something like https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-web-template/releases/tags/3.5.0 It is probably getting a 404, which zlib is choking on. Also, try using a -d flag in any Cordova calls that fail, for verbose output. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 15, 2014, at 4:29 AM, Puneet Kaur puneet.gk...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, I added the following to platforms.js to my local cordova-lib repository linked to cordova-cli : 'sugar':{ parser: './metadata/sugar_parser', url: 'https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-web-template.git', version: '3.5.0', } The cordova platform list command works fine and lists sugar as one of the platform that are available but I got the following error while issuing the command cordova platform add sugar : *Error: incorrect header check* *at Zlib._binding.onerror (zlib.js:295:17)* *I got a few question if someone can answer :* *what does this error mean ?* *what are the essential things we are supposed to develop to make our platform add command work ?* (I have found some results for the above question after going through the repositories of several platform but still wished to be sure) Puneet ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] seeking help to enable nepali keyboard input for XO-4
Hi all, We are planning on ordering the next lot of XO-4s and I need some suggestions on which keyboard model to choose -membrane or hard/clicky one. We had membrane one for our first lot and keyboard switching was very convenient on that model. One reason not to choose hard/clicky one is that it doesn't have key for language switching ( correct me if I am wrong) -I have one spanish hard/clicky and it doesn't have that key - key 56 at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Keyboard_layouts. Hard/Clicky on the other hard is more convenient while typing. Please suggest. -Basanta On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 10:01 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote: On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 10:14 PM, Basanta Shrestha basanta.shres...@olenepal.org wrote: Amazingly changing the manufacturing data didn't do the job but changing /etc/sysconfig/keyboard did. Wow! Now I have Nepali input system. Thank you all. Now I need to find a place to change default locale to ne_NP, so that the default interface is in Nepali. There is an option to do this in manufacturing data but it would be better if it can be done using file. If all you want to do is change default keyboard and language, you can avoid doing any manufacturing data changes, and just do the [base] olpc-os-builder configuration I mentioned in my last email. Daniel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] Fwd: Problems in installing sugar
Hi! I am installing sugar on my laptop (HP 6730b 4GB RAM) on an Ubuntu 12.10. As mentioned on the developer site : *http://developer.sugarlabs.org/dev-environment.md.html http://developer.sugarlabs.org/dev-environment.md.html*. I am following the steps mentioned. However, after executing this command: *./osbuild pull* the following line is printed: abhay@ubuntu:~/InternWork/sugar-build$ ./osbuild pull *Another osbuild instance is running.* I tried *restarting* my computer and also used the following command: sudo rm -Rf sugar-build/ to reinstall the package, but it did not help. The problem seems to be somewhere in a lockfile , which is not getting deleted. --Reffering lines 451-453 in the code: *if not check_lock():print(Another osbuild instance is running.)return False* Please guide me on this! Thanks, Abhay ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] seeking help to enable nepali keyboard input for XO-4
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 01:54:19PM +0545, Basanta Shrestha wrote: Hi all, We are planning on ordering the next lot of XO-4s and I need some suggestions on which keyboard model to choose -membrane or hard/clicky one. I think it is great to seek input from the community, but don't forget to ask your OLPC contact for help as well. We had membrane one for our first lot and keyboard switching was very convenient on that model. One reason not to choose hard/clicky one is that it doesn't have key for language switching ( correct me if I am wrong) -I have one spanish hard/clicky and it doesn't have that key - key 56 at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Keyboard_layouts. Yes, that's a good reason not to choose the mechanical keyboard; you would have to customise your operating system build again, to add a key combination for keyboard language switch. If the cost of customising is too high, you should order membrane keyboard. I don't know the relative costs of the keyboards, and their replacement rates, but it might be factored in to your decision. You identified the lack of language switch key in this same thread on sugar-devel@ back in November 2013, from which I'll draw some status: Walter says use a key combination: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2013-November/045724.html And says that customisation will be needed: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2013-November/045800.html Then you suggest alt+space: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2013-November/045807.html Daniel Drake says to use olpc-os-builder: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2013-November/045851.html And you asked about the alt+space: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2013-November/045857.html But the thread dried up on that subject because the units you received had a membrane keyboard, not a mechanical keyboard. I think you need to change the xkb files, but I'm not sure. Do you have a mechanical keyboard you can test with? If not, you'll have to get someone else to do this. Hard/Clicky on the other hard is more convenient while typing. Please suggest. I don't understand why you think it is more convenient. To me the keyboards are equally convenient for an inexperienced child. Perhaps you intended to mention some characteristic? -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] seeking help to enable nepali keyboard input for XO-4
James, Do we have any data re the mechanical reliability/durability/repairability of the hard/clicky keyboards? We do know that although there were some issues with membrane pealing (presumably resolved with the newer design) there numerous ingenious local repairs such that most are still working after 7 years. regards. -walter On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 5:35 AM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 01:54:19PM +0545, Basanta Shrestha wrote: Hi all, We are planning on ordering the next lot of XO-4s and I need some suggestions on which keyboard model to choose -membrane or hard/clicky one. I think it is great to seek input from the community, but don't forget to ask your OLPC contact for help as well. We had membrane one for our first lot and keyboard switching was very convenient on that model. One reason not to choose hard/clicky one is that it doesn't have key for language switching ( correct me if I am wrong) -I have one spanish hard/clicky and it doesn't have that key - key 56 at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Keyboard_layouts. Yes, that's a good reason not to choose the mechanical keyboard; you would have to customise your operating system build again, to add a key combination for keyboard language switch. If the cost of customising is too high, you should order membrane keyboard. I don't know the relative costs of the keyboards, and their replacement rates, but it might be factored in to your decision. You identified the lack of language switch key in this same thread on sugar-devel@ back in November 2013, from which I'll draw some status: Walter says use a key combination: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2013-November/045724.html And says that customisation will be needed: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2013-November/045800.html Then you suggest alt+space: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2013-November/045807.html Daniel Drake says to use olpc-os-builder: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2013-November/045851.html And you asked about the alt+space: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2013-November/045857.html But the thread dried up on that subject because the units you received had a membrane keyboard, not a mechanical keyboard. I think you need to change the xkb files, but I'm not sure. Do you have a mechanical keyboard you can test with? If not, you'll have to get someone else to do this. Hard/Clicky on the other hard is more convenient while typing. Please suggest. I don't understand why you think it is more convenient. To me the keyboards are equally convenient for an inexperienced child. Perhaps you intended to mention some characteristic? -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Write Activity on XO-4, spell check isn't working
Just to update you, about how we resolve this issue. We change abiword rpms, by abiword-2.9.3-1.git20121011.fc18.olpc2.armv7hl.rpm libabiword-2.9.3-1.git20121011.fc18.olpc2.armv7hl.rpm. These rpms were found on: http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~dsd/repos/f18/ We made several tests, and didn't perceive slowness. Regards. On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 7:29 PM, Gustavo Duarte gus.dua...@gmail.com wrote: Many Thanks Gonzalo, I'm going to do some test with spell check enabled and let you know the results. Regards. On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Hi Gustavo, We disabled spell checking in abiword rpms, because made Write activity very slow [1] You can compile rpms with the spell enabled using the specs and patches located here [2] The ideal solution would be find the slowness reason. Surely will need work on the abiword sources. Gonzalo [1] http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/4124 [2] https://git.sugarlabs.org/olpc-abiword-rpm On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Gustavo Duarte gus.dua...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, The spell check, on write activity of my XO-4 touch, I mean when I write a word misspelled, it isn't red underlined. I'm using Write Activity 94 version downloaded from SugarLabs Activities page. Also I verified that the following packages are installed already: - enchant-aspell-1.6.0-5.fc18.armv7hl - aspell-0.60.6.1-5.fc18.armv7hl - aspell-es-1.11-4.fc18.armv7hl Thought about what it's happening here ? Thanks in advance. Gustavo. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Gonzalo Odiard SugarLabs - Software for children learning ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Write Activity on XO-4, spell check isn't working
These rpms were compiled with check-spelling enabled. On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Gustavo Duarte gus.dua...@gmail.com wrote: Just to update you, about how we resolve this issue. We change abiword rpms, by abiword-2.9.3-1.git20121011.fc18.olpc2.armv7hl.rpm libabiword-2.9.3-1.git20121011.fc18.olpc2.armv7hl.rpm. These rpms were found on: http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~dsd/repos/f18/ We made several tests, and didn't perceive slowness. Regards. On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 7:29 PM, Gustavo Duarte gus.dua...@gmail.com wrote: Many Thanks Gonzalo, I'm going to do some test with spell check enabled and let you know the results. Regards. On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Hi Gustavo, We disabled spell checking in abiword rpms, because made Write activity very slow [1] You can compile rpms with the spell enabled using the specs and patches located here [2] The ideal solution would be find the slowness reason. Surely will need work on the abiword sources. Gonzalo [1] http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/4124 [2] https://git.sugarlabs.org/olpc-abiword-rpm On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Gustavo Duarte gus.dua...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, The spell check, on write activity of my XO-4 touch, I mean when I write a word misspelled, it isn't red underlined. I'm using Write Activity 94 version downloaded from SugarLabs Activities page. Also I verified that the following packages are installed already: - enchant-aspell-1.6.0-5.fc18.armv7hl - aspell-0.60.6.1-5.fc18.armv7hl - aspell-es-1.11-4.fc18.armv7hl Thought about what it's happening here ? Thanks in advance. Gustavo. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Gonzalo Odiard SugarLabs - Software for children learning ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Write Activity on XO-4, spell check isn't working
Yeap, I did that, also. On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Thanks Gustavo. Maybe the slowness was related to other issue? Did you enabled the suggestions menu? Gonzalo On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Gustavo Duarte gus.dua...@gmail.com wrote: These rpms were compiled with check-spelling enabled. On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Gustavo Duarte gus.dua...@gmail.com wrote: Just to update you, about how we resolve this issue. We change abiword rpms, by abiword-2.9.3-1.git20121011.fc18.olpc2.armv7hl.rpm libabiword-2.9.3-1.git20121011.fc18.olpc2.armv7hl.rpm. These rpms were found on: http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~dsd/repos/f18/ We made several tests, and didn't perceive slowness. Regards. On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 7:29 PM, Gustavo Duarte gus.dua...@gmail.com wrote: Many Thanks Gonzalo, I'm going to do some test with spell check enabled and let you know the results. Regards. On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Gonzalo Odiard godi...@sugarlabs.org wrote: Hi Gustavo, We disabled spell checking in abiword rpms, because made Write activity very slow [1] You can compile rpms with the spell enabled using the specs and patches located here [2] The ideal solution would be find the slowness reason. Surely will need work on the abiword sources. Gonzalo [1] http://bugs.sugarlabs.org/ticket/4124 [2] https://git.sugarlabs.org/olpc-abiword-rpm On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 10:56 AM, Gustavo Duarte gus.dua...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, The spell check, on write activity of my XO-4 touch, I mean when I write a word misspelled, it isn't red underlined. I'm using Write Activity 94 version downloaded from SugarLabs Activities page. Also I verified that the following packages are installed already: - enchant-aspell-1.6.0-5.fc18.armv7hl - aspell-0.60.6.1-5.fc18.armv7hl - aspell-es-1.11-4.fc18.armv7hl Thought about what it's happening here ? Thanks in advance. Gustavo. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Gonzalo Odiard SugarLabs - Software for children learning -- Gonzalo Odiard SugarLabs - Software for children learning ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Maze-25
Activity Homepage: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/addon/4071 Sugar Platform: 0.96 - 0.100 Download Now: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/downloads/file/28971/maze-25.xo Release notes: Version 25 * Ported to cairo * Removed all pygame * Added a finish game window * Implemented game using the accelerometer (only when in ebook mode) * Show elapsed time as min:secs if time 1 minute - Fixes #3467 * Add a option to show/hide the trail * Show a alert to the user when the xo go to ebook mode * Updated translations Sugar Labs Activities http://activities.sugarlabs.org ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] seeking help to enable nepali keyboard input for XO-4
I have no such data, sorry. On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 07:13:48AM -0400, Walter Bender wrote: James, Do we have any data re the mechanical reliability/durability/repairability of the hard/clicky keyboards? We do know that although there were some issues with membrane pealing (presumably resolved with the newer design) there numerous ingenious local repairs such that most are still working after 7 years. regards. -walter -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Fwd: Problems in installing sugar
Hi Is there a file '.lock' in your sugar build folder? (Use 'ls -a') If there is try removing it. Sam On Jun 16, 2014 7:17 PM, Abhay Sibal abhaysibal2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! I am installing sugar on my laptop (HP 6730b 4GB RAM) on an Ubuntu 12.10. As mentioned on the developer site : *http://developer.sugarlabs.org/dev-environment.md.html http://developer.sugarlabs.org/dev-environment.md.html*. I am following the steps mentioned. However, after executing this command: *./osbuild pull* the following line is printed: abhay@ubuntu:~/InternWork/sugar-build$ ./osbuild pull *Another osbuild instance is running.* I tried *restarting* my computer and also used the following command: sudo rm -Rf sugar-build/ to reinstall the package, but it did not help. The problem seems to be somewhere in a lockfile , which is not getting deleted. --Reffering lines 451-453 in the code: *if not check_lock():print(Another osbuild instance is running.)return False* Please guide me on this! Thanks, Abhay ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] seeking help to enable nepali keyboard input for XO-4
Walter, You remember correctly. The hard/clicky/crunchy keyboards are not rated for as long a lifetime as the membrane/chewy keyboards. While the membrane keyboard design was tested to 5 million key presses, IIRC the clicky keyboard is only rated to 1 million key presses. (On the other hand, it takes one minute to replace a clicky keyboard versus twenty for a membrane keyboard.) WARNING: The clicky keyboard was not approved for use by small children by UL. The reason is that if the keys are pulled off they present a choking hazard. Cheers, wad On Jun 16, 2014, at 7:13 AM, Walter Bender wrote: James, Do we have any data re the mechanical reliability/durability/repairability of the hard/clicky keyboards? We do know that although there were some issues with membrane pealing (presumably resolved with the newer design) there numerous ingenious local repairs such that most are still working after 7 years. regards. -walter On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 5:35 AM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 01:54:19PM +0545, Basanta Shrestha wrote: Hi all, We are planning on ordering the next lot of XO-4s and I need some suggestions on which keyboard model to choose -membrane or hard/clicky one. I think it is great to seek input from the community, but don't forget to ask your OLPC contact for help as well. We had membrane one for our first lot and keyboard switching was very convenient on that model. One reason not to choose hard/clicky one is that it doesn't have key for language switching ( correct me if I am wrong) -I have one spanish hard/clicky and it doesn't have that key - key 56 at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Keyboard_layouts. Yes, that's a good reason not to choose the mechanical keyboard; you would have to customise your operating system build again, to add a key combination for keyboard language switch. If the cost of customising is too high, you should order membrane keyboard. I don't know the relative costs of the keyboards, and their replacement rates, but it might be factored in to your decision. You identified the lack of language switch key in this same thread on sugar-devel@ back in November 2013, from which I'll draw some status: Walter says use a key combination: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2013-November/045724.html And says that customisation will be needed: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2013-November/045800.html Then you suggest alt+space: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2013-November/045807.html Daniel Drake says to use olpc-os-builder: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2013-November/045851.html And you asked about the alt+space: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2013-November/045857.html But the thread dried up on that subject because the units you received had a membrane keyboard, not a mechanical keyboard. I think you need to change the xkb files, but I'm not sure. Do you have a mechanical keyboard you can test with? If not, you'll have to get someone else to do this. Hard/Clicky on the other hard is more convenient while typing. Please suggest. I don't understand why you think it is more convenient. To me the keyboards are equally convenient for an inexperienced child. Perhaps you intended to mention some characteristic? -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Devel mailing list de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] seeking help to enable nepali keyboard input for XO-4
On a related note, I was curious about deployment experiences with the new membrane design with plastic grid in between keys. Although this does help with premature peeling of keys, I've always had trouble with these keyboards - the outer edges of my fingers get in the way of a full key depress. Then again, the keys aren't designed for me, so I'm curious how these do in the field. cheers, Sameer On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 6:03 PM, John Watlington w...@laptop.org wrote: Walter, You remember correctly. The hard/clicky/crunchy keyboards are not rated for as long a lifetime as the membrane/chewy keyboards. While the membrane keyboard design was tested to 5 million key presses, IIRC the clicky keyboard is only rated to 1 million key presses. (On the other hand, it takes one minute to replace a clicky keyboard versus twenty for a membrane keyboard.) WARNING: The clicky keyboard was not approved for use by small children by UL. The reason is that if the keys are pulled off they present a choking hazard. Cheers, wad On Jun 16, 2014, at 7:13 AM, Walter Bender wrote: James, Do we have any data re the mechanical reliability/durability/repairability of the hard/clicky keyboards? We do know that although there were some issues with membrane pealing (presumably resolved with the newer design) there numerous ingenious local repairs such that most are still working after 7 years. regards. -walter On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 5:35 AM, James Cameron qu...@laptop.org wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 01:54:19PM +0545, Basanta Shrestha wrote: Hi all, We are planning on ordering the next lot of XO-4s and I need some suggestions on which keyboard model to choose -membrane or hard/clicky one. I think it is great to seek input from the community, but don't forget to ask your OLPC contact for help as well. We had membrane one for our first lot and keyboard switching was very convenient on that model. One reason not to choose hard/clicky one is that it doesn't have key for language switching ( correct me if I am wrong) -I have one spanish hard/clicky and it doesn't have that key - key 56 at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/OLPC_Keyboard_layouts. Yes, that's a good reason not to choose the mechanical keyboard; you would have to customise your operating system build again, to add a key combination for keyboard language switch. If the cost of customising is too high, you should order membrane keyboard. I don't know the relative costs of the keyboards, and their replacement rates, but it might be factored in to your decision. You identified the lack of language switch key in this same thread on sugar-devel@ back in November 2013, from which I'll draw some status: Walter says use a key combination: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2013-November/045724.html And says that customisation will be needed: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2013-November/045800.html Then you suggest alt+space: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2013-November/045807.html Daniel Drake says to use olpc-os-builder: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2013-November/045851.html And you asked about the alt+space: http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2013-November/045857.html But the thread dried up on that subject because the units you received had a membrane keyboard, not a mechanical keyboard. I think you need to change the xkb files, but I'm not sure. Do you have a mechanical keyboard you can test with? If not, you'll have to get someone else to do this. Hard/Clicky on the other hard is more convenient while typing. Please suggest. I don't understand why you think it is more convenient. To me the keyboards are equally convenient for an inexperienced child. Perhaps you intended to mention some characteristic? -- James Cameron http://quozl.linux.org.au/ -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org ___ Devel mailing list de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Devel mailing list de...@lists.laptop.org http://lists.laptop.org/listinfo/devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] seeking help to enable nepali keyboard input for XO-4
On Jun 16, 2014, at 9:05 PM, Walter Bender wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 9:03 PM, John Watlington w...@laptop.org wrote: Walter, You remember correctly. The hard/clicky/crunchy keyboards are not rated for as long a lifetime as the membrane/chewy keyboards. While the membrane keyboard design was tested to 5 million key presses, IIRC the clicky keyboard is only rated to 1 million key presses. (On the other hand, it takes one minute to replace a clicky keyboard versus twenty for a membrane keyboard.) ..if you have a replacement keyboard... any insight into how easy it would be to make replacement keys in the field? I would say impossible, but that would be underestimating the creativeness of our deployments. At the electrical level, the crunchy and chewy keyboards have the same contacts, so I don't expect that to be the failure mechanism. Failure should be due to the mechanical parts (as it is with the membrane keyboards). If you pull off the keycap and the guide mechanism, the key still activates when you press on the membrane or the rubber cap (which provides both the spring action and presses on the contacts) glued to it. Cheers, wad WARNING: The clicky keyboard was not approved for use by small children by UL. The reason is that if the keys are pulled off they present a choking hazard. Cheers, wad ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] seeking help to enable nepali keyboard input for XO-4
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 6:19 PM, John Watlington w...@laptop.org wrote: On Jun 16, 2014, at 9:05 PM, Walter Bender wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 9:03 PM, John Watlington w...@laptop.org wrote: Walter, You remember correctly. The hard/clicky/crunchy keyboards are not rated for as long a lifetime as the membrane/chewy keyboards. While the membrane keyboard design was tested to 5 million key presses, IIRC the clicky keyboard is only rated to 1 million key presses. (On the other hand, it takes one minute to replace a clicky keyboard versus twenty for a membrane keyboard.) ..if you have a replacement keyboard... any insight into how easy it would be to make replacement keys in the field? I would say impossible, but that would be underestimating the creativeness of our deployments. At the electrical level, the crunchy and chewy keyboards have the same contacts, so I don't expect that to be the failure mechanism. Failure should be due to the mechanical parts (as it is with the membrane keyboards). If you pull off the keycap and the guide mechanism, the key still activates when you press on the membrane or the rubber cap (which provides both the spring action and presses on the contacts) glued to it. Back in January 2013, while visiting Khairat (India) I saw a couple of girls using the eraser end of a pencil to push the torn keys on their XO-1s from 2007 (which BTW still hold charge and run the mesh!). Sameer Cheers, wad WARNING: The clicky keyboard was not approved for use by small children by UL. The reason is that if the keys are pulled off they present a choking hazard. Cheers, wad ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel