Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Browse-108

2009-05-04 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 01:29:37PM -0500, David Farning wrote:
 On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:
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  On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 11:30:22AM -0500, David Farning wrote:
 On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 7:23 AM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:
  On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 06:04:06PM -0500, David Farning wrote:
 The conical source of information on activities _should_ be
 activities.download.org.  What activities download page were you
 looking at?  They should all be pointing to activities.sugarlabs.org.
 
  All activity information?  Also branches? Even unofficial branches?
 
 When uploading a activity to activities.sugarlabs.org there is an
 entry to a Homepage.  I would guess that the home page would be the
 source of at latest developer information.
 
 This gives users a very consistent download experience while directing
 developers to a more free form development space.
 
  I think we talk past each other.  Sorry if this is obvious to everyone
  but me:
 
  Do activities.sugarlabs.org support multiple branches of each activity?
 
  Concrete example (which I suspect triggered this subthread): Unofficial
  Browse 102 for Sugar 0.82 is currently at
  http://dev.laptop.org/~dsd/py-activities/Browse-102.xo but Tomeu
  suggested to use an official URL if more people would care about
  maintaining it.
 
 Ahh, sorry I misunderstood.  Activities.sugarlabs.org does support
 multiple concurrent versions of an activity.  This is how amo updates
 addons for the various versions of Firefox.  I don't clearly
 understand how the system works.  But it is possiable to set a
 specific activity version as working for a version of sugar.

The current situation is:

Every version of activity
(http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/developers/versions/4024)
has a Sugar Compatible Applications field - its a SugarPlatform version

So we could upload new Browse version for only 0.82 SP
but where is a problem - it wouldn't prevent user from downloading
last(which is only for 0.84) in 0.82 environment, moreover 0.82 user can
see only 0.84 version and should click See All Versions to get the
right .xo.

Whith http://dev.sugarlabs.org/ticket/824 fixed activities.sugarlabs.org
could filter/suggest/etc the right version for users SP.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Browse-108

2009-05-02 Thread Tomeu Vizoso
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 02:15, Dave Bauer dave.ba...@gmail.com wrote:


 On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Martin Langhoff martin.langh...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi Simon, Sugaristas,

 Dave Bauer was asking where could he find recent Browse.xo releases,
 and I did a bit of browsing and googling, and couldn't find it.
 Searching my gmail inbox worked, but this isn't very generalisable.

 Specifically I am looking for Browse.xo that includes Martin's patch for the
 Moodle cookie that will run on Sugar 0.82 on an XO running OS767. Does such
 a thing exist? I tried Browse-101.xo that I found from searching google and
 that didn't work. And Browse-103 from activities.sugarlabs.org doesn't
 contain the cookie code.

I think I have some answers, but I don't know what's the best way to
write it down so interested people like Dave can found it. Please
suggest.

Source code releases: http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/
Activity bundles: http://activities.sugarlabs.org/
Source code repositories: http://git.sugarlabs.org/

If you want to know in which version a particular piece of code
landed, you need to find the commit that brought that code in, then
see in which release it got in (look for commit messages like Release
108) and then look for a bundle with that version number.

If you don't find a bundle for that version, then please ping the
activity maintainer. In the case of Browse, it's more often
distributed as part of the system rather like an activity that can be
uninstalled, because by uninstalling Browse you lose critical
functionality.

Regards,

Tomeu

 Thanks
 Dave


  - sugarlabs' list archive is not indexed by google?
  - activities download page is wildly out of date...? (lists Browse 103!)
  - finding the git repo of Browse is rather hard :-(

 Please don't take this as a criticism -- just a note that it's
 currently rather hard to find things. Maybe sugarlabs.org is new and
 un-crawled by the big google crawler in the sky. Maybe there's
 something relatively easy you guys can do to keep the info
 up-to-date... dunno.

 (I try to keep the XS info up to date, and fail at it as well... so I
 know... )

 cheers,


 martin

 On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 7:37 PM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de
 wrote:
  == Source ==
 
 
  http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/fructose/Browse/Browse-108.tar.bz2
 
  == Fixed tickets ==
 
  * Browse hangs when trying to open file:/// #456
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Browse-108

2009-05-02 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
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On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 06:04:06PM -0500, David Farning wrote:
The conical source of information on activities _should_ be 
activities.download.org.  What activities download page were you 
looking at?  They should all be pointing to activities.sugarlabs.org.

All activity information?  Also branches? Even unofficial branches?

Seems to me that activities.sugarlabs.org is for latest stable official 
upstream releases only, a wiki page makes sense for any additional info, 
e.g. odd branches, relevant for _some_ users, while development info 
might be scattered at wiki pages, mailinglists and git commit comments.


Kind regards,

   - Jonas

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Browse-108

2009-05-02 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
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On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 11:30:22AM -0500, David Farning wrote:
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 7:23 AM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:
 On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 06:04:06PM -0500, David Farning wrote:
The conical source of information on activities _should_ be 
activities.download.org.  What activities download page were you 
looking at?  They should all be pointing to activities.sugarlabs.org.

 All activity information?  Also branches? Even unofficial branches?

When uploading a activity to activities.sugarlabs.org there is an
entry to a Homepage.  I would guess that the home page would be the
source of at latest developer information.

This gives users a very consistent download experience while directing
developers to a more free form development space.

I think we talk past each other.  Sorry if this is obvious to everyone 
but me:

Do activities.sugarlabs.org support multiple branches of each activity?

Concrete example (which I suspect triggered this subthread): Unofficial 
Browse 102 for Sugar 0.82 is currently at 
http://dev.laptop.org/~dsd/py-activities/Browse-102.xo but Tomeu 
suggested to use an official URL if more people would care about 
maintaining it.


   - Jonas

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Browse-108

2009-05-02 Thread David Farning
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:
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 On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 11:30:22AM -0500, David Farning wrote:
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 7:23 AM, Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk wrote:
 On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 06:04:06PM -0500, David Farning wrote:
The conical source of information on activities _should_ be
activities.download.org.  What activities download page were you
looking at?  They should all be pointing to activities.sugarlabs.org.

 All activity information?  Also branches? Even unofficial branches?

When uploading a activity to activities.sugarlabs.org there is an
entry to a Homepage.  I would guess that the home page would be the
source of at latest developer information.

This gives users a very consistent download experience while directing
developers to a more free form development space.

 I think we talk past each other.  Sorry if this is obvious to everyone
 but me:

 Do activities.sugarlabs.org support multiple branches of each activity?

 Concrete example (which I suspect triggered this subthread): Unofficial
 Browse 102 for Sugar 0.82 is currently at
 http://dev.laptop.org/~dsd/py-activities/Browse-102.xo but Tomeu
 suggested to use an official URL if more people would care about
 maintaining it.

Ahh, sorry I misunderstood.  Activities.sugarlabs.org does support
multiple concurrent versions of an activity.  This is how amo updates
addons for the various versions of Firefox.  I don't clearly
understand how the system works.  But it is possiable to set a
specific activity version as working for a version of sugar.

david

   - Jonas

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Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Browse-108

2009-05-02 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 8:29 PM, David Farning dfarn...@sugarlabs.org wrote:
 Ahh, sorry I misunderstood.  Activities.sugarlabs.org does support
 multiple concurrent versions of an activity.  This is how amo updates
 addons for the various versions of Firefox.  I don't clearly
 understand how the system works.  But it is possiable to set a
 specific activity version as working for a version of sugar.

Excellent. Then we need to coord with Simon about making sure that the
latest Browse for 8.2 is listed there too :-)



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Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Browse-108

2009-05-01 Thread Martin Langhoff
Hi Simon, Sugaristas,

Dave Bauer was asking where could he find recent Browse.xo releases,
and I did a bit of browsing and googling, and couldn't find it.
Searching my gmail inbox worked, but this isn't very generalisable.

 - sugarlabs' list archive is not indexed by google?
 - activities download page is wildly out of date...? (lists Browse 103!)
 - finding the git repo of Browse is rather hard :-(

Please don't take this as a criticism -- just a note that it's
currently rather hard to find things. Maybe sugarlabs.org is new and
un-crawled by the big google crawler in the sky. Maybe there's
something relatively easy you guys can do to keep the info
up-to-date... dunno.

(I try to keep the XS info up to date, and fail at it as well... so I know... )

cheers,


martin

On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 7:37 PM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de wrote:
 == Source ==

 http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/fructose/Browse/Browse-108.tar.bz2

 == Fixed tickets ==

 * Browse hangs when trying to open file:/// #456
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Re: [Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Browse-108

2009-05-01 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 1:00 AM, Frederick Grose fgr...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Browse would be the place to add
 improvements.

If you go to sugarlabs.org - activities, search for 'browse', you
land in http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4024 which
shows Browse 103.

AIUI, that's the canonical place...



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[Sugar-devel] [RELEASE] Browse-108

2009-04-06 Thread Simon Schampijer
== Source ==

http://download.sugarlabs.org/sources/sucrose/fructose/Browse/Browse-108.tar.bz2

== Fixed tickets ==

* Browse hangs when trying to open file:/// #456
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