Re: [Sugar-devel] Problem with Read activity and screen rotate feature
I understand that user could associate the symbols of each game pad button (square, circle, etc.) to mean certain things, But in Read Activity is not the case, is like an exception. Users will associate Down And Up buttons (depending on the screen position) with the PageUp PageDown action. So, in my opinion and the experiencie of teachers in schools, will be more intuitive for user change the action of each button when screen rotate. Do yo know if I can catch the screen rotate event in the activity? Thanks for your answers. Regards, Daniel On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote: In the Read activity in the build 353, the game key X and O keys do PageUp Page Down and the square and and check keys do zoom in / out. Gonzalo On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Daniel Castelo dcast...@plan.ceibal.edu.uy wrote: Thanks for the information! I've tested the build 351. I realize that the Directional Pad change the Behaviour when the screen rotate. Great! However, in the Read Activity the Directional Pad is useful for go forward line per line, but if you want to change the page you have to use the Game Buttons. So, for Read Activity will be useful adapt the Game Buttons too. What do you think? On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.dewrote: On 11/17/2010 05:37 PM, Daniel Castelo wrote: We want to read books using the rotate screen capability of XO. We have a small problem, if we open a book (pdf, epub) and we rotate the screen, the game pad buttons have the same use that the screen in a normal position, I mean that user have to click in the left game pad button (the down button in horizontal position) to go to the next page. I think that all the game pad buttons have to be adapted according the screen position. We want to know how can we catch the rotate screen event, and be sure that this change in Read behaviour activity has sense. Regards, Daniel Hi Daniel, this has been fixed in the recent OLPC builds [1]. The ticket is #10380 [2]. Please let us know if that works for you now. Regards, Simon [1] http://build.laptop.org/10.1.3/ [2] http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10380 ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Ing. Daniel Castelo Plan Ceibal - Área Técnica Avda. Italia 6201 Montevideo - Uruguay. Tel.: 2 601 57 73 Interno 2228 E-mail : dcast...@plan.ceibal.edu.uy ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Ing. Daniel Castelo Plan Ceibal - Área Técnica Avda. Italia 6201 Montevideo - Uruguay. Tel.: 2 601 57 73 Interno 2228 E-mail : dcast...@plan.ceibal.edu.uy ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
[Sugar-devel] Problem with Read activity and screen rotate feature
We want to read books using the rotate screen capability of XO. We have a small problem, if we open a book (pdf, epub) and we rotate the screen, the game pad buttons have the same use that the screen in a normal position, I mean that user have to click in the left game pad button (the down button in horizontal position) to go to the next page. I think that all the game pad buttons have to be adapted according the screen position. We want to know how can we catch the rotate screen event, and be sure that this change in Read behaviour activity has sense. Regards, Daniel -- Ing. Daniel Castelo Plan Ceibal - Área Técnica Avda. Italia 6201 Montevideo - Uruguay. Tel.: 2 601 57 73 Interno 2228 E-mail : dcast...@plan.ceibal.edu.uy ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Problem with Read activity and screen rotate feature
What image are you using? What version of olpc-kbdshim? Gonzalo On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Daniel Castelo dcast...@plan.ceibal.edu.uy wrote: We want to read books using the rotate screen capability of XO. We have a small problem, if we open a book (pdf, epub) and we rotate the screen, the game pad buttons have the same use that the screen in a normal position, I mean that user have to click in the left game pad button (the down button in horizontal position) to go to the next page. I think that all the game pad buttons have to be adapted according the screen position. We want to know how can we catch the rotate screen event, and be sure that this change in Read behaviour activity has sense. Regards, Daniel -- Ing. Daniel Castelo Plan Ceibal - Área Técnica Avda. Italia 6201 Montevideo - Uruguay. Tel.: 2 601 57 73 Interno 2228 E-mail : dcast...@plan.ceibal.edu.uy ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Problem with Read activity and screen rotate feature
On 11/17/2010 05:37 PM, Daniel Castelo wrote: We want to read books using the rotate screen capability of XO. We have a small problem, if we open a book (pdf, epub) and we rotate the screen, the game pad buttons have the same use that the screen in a normal position, I mean that user have to click in the left game pad button (the down button in horizontal position) to go to the next page. I think that all the game pad buttons have to be adapted according the screen position. We want to know how can we catch the rotate screen event, and be sure that this change in Read behaviour activity has sense. Regards, Daniel Hi Daniel, this has been fixed in the recent OLPC builds [1]. The ticket is #10380 [2]. Please let us know if that works for you now. Regards, Simon [1] http://build.laptop.org/10.1.3/ [2] http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10380 ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Problem with Read activity and screen rotate feature
Thanks for the information! I've tested the build 351. I realize that the Directional Pad change the Behaviour when the screen rotate. Great! However, in the Read Activity the Directional Pad is useful for go forward line per line, but if you want to change the page you have to use the Game Buttons. So, for Read Activity will be useful adapt the Game Buttons too. What do you think? On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.dewrote: On 11/17/2010 05:37 PM, Daniel Castelo wrote: We want to read books using the rotate screen capability of XO. We have a small problem, if we open a book (pdf, epub) and we rotate the screen, the game pad buttons have the same use that the screen in a normal position, I mean that user have to click in the left game pad button (the down button in horizontal position) to go to the next page. I think that all the game pad buttons have to be adapted according the screen position. We want to know how can we catch the rotate screen event, and be sure that this change in Read behaviour activity has sense. Regards, Daniel Hi Daniel, this has been fixed in the recent OLPC builds [1]. The ticket is #10380 [2]. Please let us know if that works for you now. Regards, Simon [1] http://build.laptop.org/10.1.3/ [2] http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10380 ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Ing. Daniel Castelo Plan Ceibal - Área Técnica Avda. Italia 6201 Montevideo - Uruguay. Tel.: 2 601 57 73 Interno 2228 E-mail : dcast...@plan.ceibal.edu.uy ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Problem with Read activity and screen rotate feature
It was a design decision (at least initially) to not rotate the Game Buttons, as users might associate their symbols (square, circle, etc.) to mean certain things. If there is a compelling reason to do this perhaps it should be revisited. I admit that this does not work well for all activities. Another activity which gets confused by this is Maze, which can use the directional pad and game buttons to add additional players on each XO using/sharing the activity. On 11/17/10 13:29, Daniel Castelo wrote: Thanks for the information! I've tested the build 351. I realize that the Directional Pad change the Behaviour when the screen rotate. Great! However, in the Read Activity the Directional Pad is useful for go forward line per line, but if you want to change the page you have to use the Game Buttons. So, for Read Activity will be useful adapt the Game Buttons too. What do you think? On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.de mailto:si...@schampijer.de wrote: On 11/17/2010 05:37 PM, Daniel Castelo wrote: We want to read books using the rotate screen capability of XO. We have a small problem, if we open a book (pdf, epub) and we rotate the screen, the game pad buttons have the same use that the screen in a normal position, I mean that user have to click in the left game pad button (the down button in horizontal position) to go to the next page. I think that all the game pad buttons have to be adapted according the screen position. We want to know how can we catch the rotate screen event, and be sure that this change in Read behaviour activity has sense. Regards, Daniel Hi Daniel, this has been fixed in the recent OLPC builds [1]. The ticket is #10380 [2]. Please let us know if that works for you now. Regards, Simon [1] http://build.laptop.org/10.1.3/ [2] http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10380 ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org mailto:Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Ing. Daniel Castelo Plan Ceibal - Área Técnica Avda. Italia 6201 Montevideo - Uruguay. Tel.: 2 601 57 73 Interno 2228 E-mail : dcast...@plan.ceibal.edu.uy mailto:dcast...@plan.ceibal.edu.uy ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
Re: [Sugar-devel] Problem with Read activity and screen rotate feature
In the Read activity in the build 353, the game key X and O keys do PageUp Page Down and the square and and check keys do zoom in / out. Gonzalo On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Daniel Castelo dcast...@plan.ceibal.edu.uy wrote: Thanks for the information! I've tested the build 351. I realize that the Directional Pad change the Behaviour when the screen rotate. Great! However, in the Read Activity the Directional Pad is useful for go forward line per line, but if you want to change the page you have to use the Game Buttons. So, for Read Activity will be useful adapt the Game Buttons too. What do you think? On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Simon Schampijer si...@schampijer.dewrote: On 11/17/2010 05:37 PM, Daniel Castelo wrote: We want to read books using the rotate screen capability of XO. We have a small problem, if we open a book (pdf, epub) and we rotate the screen, the game pad buttons have the same use that the screen in a normal position, I mean that user have to click in the left game pad button (the down button in horizontal position) to go to the next page. I think that all the game pad buttons have to be adapted according the screen position. We want to know how can we catch the rotate screen event, and be sure that this change in Read behaviour activity has sense. Regards, Daniel Hi Daniel, this has been fixed in the recent OLPC builds [1]. The ticket is #10380 [2]. Please let us know if that works for you now. Regards, Simon [1] http://build.laptop.org/10.1.3/ [2] http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/10380 ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel -- Ing. Daniel Castelo Plan Ceibal - Área Técnica Avda. Italia 6201 Montevideo - Uruguay. Tel.: 2 601 57 73 Interno 2228 E-mail : dcast...@plan.ceibal.edu.uy ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
