Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities not compatible with Sugar-0.90

2011-01-19 Thread Daniel Drake
On 18 January 2011 22:46, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote:
 Originally, there was no way to pin particular versions in collections.
 One would always get the latest version flagged to work on your browser.
 Which is exactly what you're asking for. I'm not sure what's currently
 missing server-side, but it shouldn't be hard to do.

We already have that, in a different format, which works fine:
http://activities.sugarlabs.org/services/update-aslo.php?id=ACTIVITYappVersion=0.90

And it sounds like this (plus pestering of activity authors and/or use
of admin power to correct compatibility info) is the best thing we
have right now, even though both you and Aleksey don't fully see it as
within the role of activities.sugarlabs.org (which I can understand
too, but am left without somewhere else to turn).

Daniel
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities not compatible with Sugar-0.90

2011-01-19 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Daniel,
Why not use the wiki like in
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/G1G1/10.1.3 ?
I know is more work maintain the version for every activity, but we can help
with this.

Gonzalo

On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote:

 On 18 January 2011 22:46, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote:
  Originally, there was no way to pin particular versions in collections.
  One would always get the latest version flagged to work on your browser.
  Which is exactly what you're asking for. I'm not sure what's currently
  missing server-side, but it shouldn't be hard to do.

 We already have that, in a different format, which works fine:

 http://activities.sugarlabs.org/services/update-aslo.php?id=ACTIVITYappVersion=0.90

 And it sounds like this (plus pestering of activity authors and/or use
 of admin power to correct compatibility info) is the best thing we
 have right now, even though both you and Aleksey don't fully see it as
 within the role of activities.sugarlabs.org (which I can understand
 too, but am left without somewhere else to turn).

 Daniel

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities not compatible with Sugar-0.90

2011-01-19 Thread Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 7:56 AM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote:

 Daniel,
 Why not use the wiki like in
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/G1G1/10.1.3 ?
 I know is more work maintain the version for every activity, but we can
 help with this.

 This is not the best way to go, due to various reasons, one of them is that
actvities.sugarlabs.org
has filters of edition, wikis are designed to be fully open,  but in our
case could be dangerous, there are examples like doom, these violent games
with the availability to be downloaded  as  activities generate controversy
among teachers and parents (and also high the alarms between education
officials of countries).

Also people can put non-free activities there which we cannot distribute.
Other advantage is that ASLO is controlled by the same activity authors not
by third parties.



 regards,






 Gonzalo


 On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote:

 On 18 January 2011 22:46, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote:
  Originally, there was no way to pin particular versions in collections.
  One would always get the latest version flagged to work on your browser.
  Which is exactly what you're asking for. I'm not sure what's currently
  missing server-side, but it shouldn't be hard to do.

 We already have that, in a different format, which works fine:

 http://activities.sugarlabs.org/services/update-aslo.php?id=ACTIVITYappVersion=0.90

 And it sounds like this (plus pestering of activity authors and/or use
 of admin power to correct compatibility info) is the best thing we
 have right now, even though both you and Aleksey don't fully see it as
 within the role of activities.sugarlabs.org (which I can understand
 too, but am left without somewhere else to turn).

 Daniel



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Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities not compatible with Sugar-0.90

2011-01-19 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero 
raf...@sugarlabs.org wrote:




 On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 7:56 AM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.orgwrote:

 Daniel,
 Why not use the wiki like in
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/G1G1/10.1.3 ?
 I know is more work maintain the version for every activity, but we can
 help with this.

 This is not the best way to go, due to various reasons, one of them is
 that actvities.sugarlabs.org
 has filters of edition, wikis are designed to be fully open,  but in our
 case could be dangerous, there are examples like doom, these violent games
 with the availability to be downloaded  as  activities generate controversy
 among teachers and parents (and also high the alarms between education
 officials of countries).

 Also people can put non-free activities there which we cannot distribute.
 Other advantage is that ASLO is controlled by the same activity authors not
 by third parties.


The wiki have permissions too.

Gonzalo
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities not compatible with Sugar-0.90

2011-01-19 Thread Samuel Greenfeld
The wiki approach has been tried with 
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities (which probably needs a bit of a 
legal/deadlink/does not work with newer OSes/etc. cleanup) but ended up 
a bit of a mess.  I'm not certain if permissions would help much.


To split this page up properly in a wiki would require using the wiki as 
its own database with categories, supported Sugar versions, etc., some 
of which you might want to eventually change with bulk modifications.  
And while my wiki skills are not the best, the self-referencing wiki 
storage of OLPC test cases left me confused about how I could modify 
them without breaking anything going back.


IMHO you basically would have to re-invent activity.sugarlabs.org to put 
it in a wiki, and I'm not certain if that is necessary at this time.



On 01/19/11 09:31, Gonzalo Odiard wrote:



On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero 
raf...@sugarlabs.org mailto:raf...@sugarlabs.org wrote:





On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 7:56 AM, Gonzalo Odiard
gonz...@laptop.org mailto:gonz...@laptop.org wrote:

Daniel,
Why not use the wiki like in
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Activities/G1G1/10.1.3 ?
I know is more work maintain the version for every activity,
but we can help with this.

This is not the best way to go, due to various reasons, one of
them is that actvities.sugarlabs.org http://actvities.sugarlabs.org
has filters of edition, wikis are designed to be fully open,  but
in our case could be dangerous, there are examples like doom,
these violent games with the availability to be downloaded  as
 activities generate controversy among teachers and parents (and
also high the alarms between education officials of countries).

Also people can put non-free activities there which we cannot
distribute.
Other advantage is that ASLO is controlled by the same activity
authors not by third parties.


The wiki have permissions too.

Gonzalo


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Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities not compatible with Sugar-0.90

2011-01-19 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Wed, 2011-01-19 at 12:52 +, Daniel Drake wrote:

 We already have that, in a different format, which works fine:
 http://activities.sugarlabs.org/services/update-aslo.php?id=ACTIVITYappVersion=0.90
 
 And it sounds like this (plus pestering of activity authors and/or use
 of admin power to correct compatibility info) is the best thing we
 have right now, even though both you and Aleksey don't fully see it as
 within the role of activities.sugarlabs.org (which I can understand
 too, but am left without somewhere else to turn).

I don't think we're going to phase out the RDF updater anytime soon,
since all versions of Sugar shipped with Linux distros depend on it,
including SoaS and USR.

*However*, it would be nice if we could provide equivalent functionality
with the microformat updater as well, so that the same olpc-os-builder
module would work with both aslo and the wiki.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities not compatible with Sugar-0.90

2011-01-18 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:34:34PM -0500, Bernie Innocenti wrote:
 On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 17:11 -0500, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero wrote: 
  
  I can't. I think every maintainer must do the change. 
  
  Right every maintainer has to make that change in ASLO. 
 
 Aren't you an aslo admin? You can change any activity.

Imho, thats the job for activity authors (to see what sugar version is
compatible with his activity). Another thing is that there is no way to
say sugar = 0.86 on ASLO and uploaders need to add any new sugar
version after it appeared.

In dextrose we already have the code that relies on activity.info spec
for sugar dep version, not to ASLO info. In my mind, thats the best way
to go (and after that many activities switched to activity.info, we can
remove sugar versions from ASLO at all). Btw, I guess most of
not-all-sugars activities are Fructose, in time w/ switching to the new
ASLO[1], we can review all activities and maybe do not implement sugar
versions in new ASLO.

 For the record, the current aslo admins are:
 
 Tomeu Vizoso
 Wade Brainerd
 Simon Schampijer
 Mick Weiss
 Gary Martin
 david farning
 Walter Bender
 Sebastian Dziallas
 Rafael Ortiz
 Aleksey Lim
 Pablo Flores
 Bernie Innocenti
 josh  [j...@tucson-labs.com]
 Thomas Gilliard
 Stefan Unterhauser
 Anish Mangal
 Sascha Silbe
 
 The activity editors are:
 
 Tomeu Vizoso
 Simon Schampijer
 Gary Martin
 Sebastian Dziallas
 Luke Faraone
 Rafael Ortiz
 James Simmons
 Aleksey Lim
 Activity Team
 
 We should probably cleanup both lists from people who are no longer
 actively working on ASLO.

I think, would be better to do that on explicit requests from these
people.

 As always, if anyone would like to help us maintaining ASLO or any other
 service provided by Sugar Labs, just let one of the Infrastructure Team
 members know. We hire volunteers after a short interview to ensure
 that they have the necessary technical skills and they intend to take
 the job seriously. Of course, when you run out of free time you can step
 down (responsibly!) from your role.

Also, in my mind, ASLO is primarily a doer/user tool, so ASLO editors
should not change existed uploads in the way they think is needed. They
can remove existed activities if activities don't follow Editors policy[2]
(or don not accept them to public). On other hand, when people (especially
deployments) need the handle to say what activity version work in
particular env., they can create collections and specify particular
activity versions. This feature is accessible on activities-testing.sl.o
and will be moved to production in time w/ dextrose-2 (that will contain
new microformat updater).

[1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Platform_Team/Roadmap
[2] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Library/Editors/Policy

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities not compatible with Sugar-0.90

2011-01-18 Thread Daniel Drake
On 18 January 2011 13:06, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote:
 Also, in my mind, ASLO is primarily a doer/user tool, so ASLO editors
 should not change existed uploads in the way they think is needed.

I guess this means that my usage of activities.sugarlabs.org is not
according to its design.

Here's the task: I want to pull the latest activity version compatible
with Sugar-0.90 for a specific set of activities from now until
mid-April, several times a week. This is for their inclusion in
development OS builds.

What's your suggested approach to this?

Right now I am querying
http://activities.sugarlabs.org/services/update-aslo.php?id=ACTIVITYappVersion=0.90
and parsing the resultant XML.

Thanks,
Daniel
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities not compatible with Sugar-0.90

2011-01-18 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 05:48:05PM +, Daniel Drake wrote:
 On 18 January 2011 13:06, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote:
  Also, in my mind, ASLO is primarily a doer/user tool, so ASLO editors
  should not change existed uploads in the way they think is needed.
 
 I guess this means that my usage of activities.sugarlabs.org is not
 according to its design.
 
 Here's the task: I want to pull the latest activity version compatible
 with Sugar-0.90 for a specific set of activities from now until
 mid-April, several times a week. This is for their inclusion in
 development OS builds.
 
 What's your suggested approach to this?
 
 Right now I am querying
 http://activities.sugarlabs.org/services/update-aslo.php?id=ACTIVITYappVersion=0.90
 and parsing the resultant XML.

You can either do not use appVersion and update-aslo.php will return
recent versions or just create collection. The activity-testing.sl.o
implementation allows setting particular activity versions (it will be
pushed to production after testing within dextrose-2, that was the
purpose for this feature). In the last case, collection content will be
accessible via microformat page, eg:

http://activities-testing.sugarlabs.org/services/micro-format.php?collection_nickname=fructose

 
 Thanks,
 Daniel
 

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities not compatible with Sugar-0.90

2011-01-18 Thread Daniel Drake
On 18 January 2011 19:58, Aleksey Lim alsr...@member.fsf.org wrote:
 You can either do not use appVersion and update-aslo.php will return
 recent versions or just create collection. The activity-testing.sl.o
 implementation allows setting particular activity versions (it will be
 pushed to production after testing within dextrose-2, that was the
 purpose for this feature). In the last case, collection content will be
 accessible via microformat page, eg:

 http://activities-testing.sugarlabs.org/services/micro-format.php?collection_nickname=fructose

I don't think either of those is what I need:

If I drop appVersion, I'd get activities that run only on Sugar-0.92
and are incompatible with Sugar-0.90 (none right now, but I forsee a
couple appearing before mid-April arrives). I want activities that are
compatible with Sugar-0.90.

If I use a collection, the versions are fixed to the exact versions
that I add to the collection, whereas (see last mail) I want the
latest activity version compatible with Sugar-0.90.
(please correct me if I've misunderstood what a collection is)


I'm now feeling more confident that my current approach is correct. Thoughts?

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities not compatible with Sugar-0.90

2011-01-18 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Tue, 2011-01-18 at 20:32 +, Daniel Drake wrote:

 If I use a collection, the versions are fixed to the exact versions
 that I add to the collection, whereas (see last mail) I want the
 latest activity version compatible with Sugar-0.90.
 (please correct me if I've misunderstood what a collection is)

The latest activity compatible with Sugar-X.Y is what the RDF protocol
provided.

This wasn't considered good for deployments enough because it doesn't
allow the pedagogical team to do any QA on updates before they hit the
users.

So the idea is that Dextrose could create a collection dextrose2 which
pins certain activity versions. Paraguay could create a collection
dextrose2-py and pin slightly different activities.

The downside of this approach is that development builds no longer get
the latest and greatest activities automatically. Is this what is
bothering you? Perhaps we could add separate microformat URLs that
filter by Sugar version.

In my mind, letting the activity owner self-certify which versions of
Sugar are known to work well is poor QA practice. I'd rather have
someone responsible to do some testing upfront before blessing them for
the sugar-0.90 collection.

Moreover, the version range currently supported by ASLO is a little too
simplistic for the variety of ABIs that we're going to see soon:
f14-s0.90-i386, f15-s0.92-arm... maybe even crazier. With multiple
architectures, the dream of a simple  universal bundle format for
activity is over and our package management tools are still very
immature.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities not compatible with Sugar-0.90

2011-01-18 Thread Daniel Drake
On 18 January 2011 22:00, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.org wrote:
 This wasn't considered good for deployments enough because it doesn't
 allow the pedagogical team to do any QA on updates before they hit the
 users.

Agreed. This is not for deployments, this is for development.

 The downside of this approach is that development builds no longer get
 the latest and greatest activities automatically. Is this what is
 bothering you?

Yes.

 Perhaps we could add separate microformat URLs that
 filter by Sugar version.

This would be good, but is basically what we have now in a different format:
http://activities.sugarlabs.org/services/update-aslo.php?id=ACTIVITYappVersion=0.90

and I gathered from Aleksey that this isn't what
activities.sugarlabs.org is designed for. (but judging from further
responses, it's perhaps the only non-manual option that we have for
now)

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities not compatible with Sugar-0.90

2011-01-18 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 05:00:07PM -0500, Bernie Innocenti wrote:
 On Tue, 2011-01-18 at 20:32 +, Daniel Drake wrote:
 
  If I use a collection, the versions are fixed to the exact versions
  that I add to the collection, whereas (see last mail) I want the
  latest activity version compatible with Sugar-0.90.
  (please correct me if I've misunderstood what a collection is)
 
 The latest activity compatible with Sugar-X.Y is what the RDF protocol
 provided.
 
 This wasn't considered good for deployments enough because it doesn't
 allow the pedagogical team to do any QA on updates before they hit the
 users.
 
 So the idea is that Dextrose could create a collection dextrose2 which
 pins certain activity versions. Paraguay could create a collection
 dextrose2-py and pin slightly different activities.
 
 The downside of this approach is that development builds no longer get
 the latest and greatest activities automatically. Is this what is
 bothering you? Perhaps we could add separate microformat URLs that
 filter by Sugar version.

 In my mind, letting the activity owner self-certify which versions of
 Sugar are known to work well is poor QA practice. I'd rather have
 someone responsible to do some testing upfront before blessing them for
 the sugar-0.90 collection.

That depends on what side we are talking :), from deployment/distro pov,
there is a need in [downstream] QA and collection is the right way
(all activities need to be passed via such QA, if we talking about QA
not just about letting deployment/distro users install some activities).

My strong thinking is that ASLO should-not/impossible/useless be like
a GNU/Linux distribution repository when all packages are well QAed
and tested (it is perpendicular to sugar purposes when it is all about
experiments and, thus, producing not-well-working/temporary solutions).
ASLO is just a sharing place, we can have tens implementations of the
same Record on ASLO (which is impossible in distribution repositories)
from different doers and there [should not] is no any guaranties that
all these implementations works well.

If there is a need in guaranties, people work with particular doer
(on improving particular activity) or create QAed/supporteded
[downstream] collections.

 Moreover, the version range currently supported by ASLO is a little too
 simplistic for the variety of ABIs that we're going to see soon:
 f14-s0.90-i386, f15-s0.92-arm... maybe even crazier. With multiple
 architectures, the dream of a simple  universal bundle format for
 activity is over and our package management tools are still very
 immature.
 
 -- 
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  \X/  Sugar Labs   - http://sugarlabs.org/
 
 

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities not compatible with Sugar-0.90

2011-01-18 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Tue, 2011-01-18 at 22:06 +, Daniel Drake wrote: 
  Perhaps we could add separate microformat URLs that
  filter by Sugar version.
 
 This would be good, but is basically what we have now in a different format:
 http://activities.sugarlabs.org/services/update-aslo.php?id=ACTIVITYappVersion=0.90
 
 and I gathered from Aleksey that this isn't what
 activities.sugarlabs.org is designed for. (but judging from further
 responses, it's perhaps the only non-manual option that we have for
 now)

Ah, yeah... I agree it's a useful feature for development.

Originally, there was no way to pin particular versions in collections.
One would always get the latest version flagged to work on your browser.
Which is exactly what you're asking for. I'm not sure what's currently
missing server-side, but it shouldn't be hard to do.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities not compatible with Sugar-0.90

2011-01-18 Thread Aleksey Lim
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 09:07:32PM +, Daniel Drake wrote:
 Hi,
 
 According to activities.sugarlabs.org, the following activities
 (amongst others, probably) are not compatible with Sugar-0.90:
 
 org.laptop.WebActivity
 org.laptop.sugar.ReadActivity
 org.laptop.TamTamSynthLab,
 org.laptop.TamTamJam,
 org.laptop.TamTamEdit,
 org.laptop.TamTamMini,
 org.vpri.EtoysActivity,
 org.laptop.MeasureActivity
 org.laptop.ImpodeActivity
 vu.lux.olpc.Maze
 com.garycmartin.Moon
 edu.mit.media.ScratchActivity
 org.laptop.Terminal
 org.laptop.Log
 
 If these activities do work on 0.90, please mark them as so.

Last changes for collections/microformat batch updater for ASLO:


http://activities-testing.sugarlabs.org/services/micro-format.php?collection_nickname=collection-nick[sugar=sugar-version]

* if activity version was not set in collection and sugar request
  argument wasn't passed, then return recent activity version
* if activity version was not set in collection and sugar request
  argument was passed, then return either recent activity version only
  for this sugar or nothing
* if activity version was set in collection, regardless sugar request
  argument, exactly this version will be returned

Any help with testing this feature on activities-testing.sugarlabs.org
(it several months copy of activities.sugarlabs.org) is welcome.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities not compatible with Sugar-0.90

2011-01-17 Thread Daniel Drake
On 17 January 2011 21:07, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote:
 Hi,

 According to activities.sugarlabs.org, the following activities
 (amongst others, probably) are not compatible with Sugar-0.90:
 If these activities do work on 0.90, please mark them as so.

Found a few more:

org.laptop.community.TypingTurtle
org.sugarlabs.InfoSlicer
org.laptop.community.Colors
org.laptop.community.Finance
org.laptop.StopWatchActivity
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities not compatible with Sugar-0.90

2011-01-17 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
Daniel
I did a test with your image OS4,
http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Godiard/Activities_for_F14#Activities_test_in_OS4

Gonzalo

On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote:

 On 17 January 2011 21:07, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote:
  Hi,
 
  According to activities.sugarlabs.org, the following activities
  (amongst others, probably) are not compatible with Sugar-0.90:
  If these activities do work on 0.90, please mark them as so.

 Found a few more:

 org.laptop.community.TypingTurtle
 org.sugarlabs.InfoSlicer
 org.laptop.community.Colors
 org.laptop.community.Finance
 org.laptop.StopWatchActivity
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities not compatible with Sugar-0.90

2011-01-17 Thread Daniel Drake
On 17 January 2011 21:17, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote:
 Daniel
 I did a test with your image OS4,
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Godiard/Activities_for_F14#Activities_test_in_OS4

Thanks, I assume you found some of the ones in my list to be working?
If so, please mark them as 0.90 compatible on activities.sugarlabs.org

Thanks,
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Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities not compatible with Sugar-0.90

2011-01-17 Thread Gonzalo Odiard
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 6:22 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote:

 On 17 January 2011 21:17, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote:
  Daniel
  I did a test with your image OS4,
 
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Godiard/Activities_for_F14#Activities_test_in_OS4

 Thanks, I assume you found some of the ones in my list to be working?
 If so, please mark them as 0.90 compatible on activities.sugarlabs.org

 Thanks,
 Daniel


I can't. I think every maintainer must do the change.

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Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities not compatible with Sugar-0.90

2011-01-17 Thread Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote:



 On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 6:22 PM, Daniel Drake d...@laptop.org wrote:

 On 17 January 2011 21:17, Gonzalo Odiard gonz...@laptop.org wrote:
  Daniel
  I did a test with your image OS4,
 
 http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Godiard/Activities_for_F14#Activities_test_in_OS4

 Thanks, I assume you found some of the ones in my list to be working?
 If so, please mark them as 0.90 compatible on activities.sugarlabs.org

 Thanks,
 Daniel


 I can't. I think every maintainer must do the change.


Right every maintainer has to make that change in ASLO.



 Gonzalo


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Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities not compatible with Sugar-0.90

2011-01-17 Thread Bernie Innocenti
On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 17:11 -0500, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero wrote: 
 
 I can't. I think every maintainer must do the change. 
 
 Right every maintainer has to make that change in ASLO. 

Aren't you an aslo admin? You can change any activity.

For the record, the current aslo admins are:

Tomeu Vizoso
Wade Brainerd
Simon Schampijer
Mick Weiss
Gary Martin
david farning
Walter Bender
Sebastian Dziallas
Rafael Ortiz
Aleksey Lim
Pablo Flores
Bernie Innocenti
josh  [j...@tucson-labs.com]
Thomas Gilliard
Stefan Unterhauser
Anish Mangal
Sascha Silbe

The activity editors are:

Tomeu Vizoso
Simon Schampijer
Gary Martin
Sebastian Dziallas
Luke Faraone
Rafael Ortiz
James Simmons
Aleksey Lim
Activity Team

We should probably cleanup both lists from people who are no longer
actively working on ASLO.

As always, if anyone would like to help us maintaining ASLO or any other
service provided by Sugar Labs, just let one of the Infrastructure Team
members know. We hire volunteers after a short interview to ensure
that they have the necessary technical skills and they intend to take
the job seriously. Of course, when you run out of free time you can step
down (responsibly!) from your role.


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Re: [Sugar-devel] Activities not compatible with Sugar-0.90

2011-01-17 Thread Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero
Hi



On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:34 PM, Bernie Innocenti ber...@codewiz.orgwrote:

 On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 17:11 -0500, Rafael Enrique Ortiz Guerrero wrote:
 
  I can't. I think every maintainer must do the change.
 
  Right every maintainer has to make that change in ASLO.

 Aren't you an aslo admin? You can change any activity.


Right!, i was forgotting those powers ;), I'll be testing
those activities for sugar 0.9 and making changes on ASLO.



 For the record, the current aslo admins are:

 Tomeu Vizoso
 Wade Brainerd
 Simon Schampijer
 Mick Weiss
 Gary Martin
 david farning
 Walter Bender
 Sebastian Dziallas
 Rafael Ortiz
 Aleksey Lim
 Pablo Flores
 Bernie Innocenti
 josh  [j...@tucson-labs.com]
 Thomas Gilliard
 Stefan Unterhauser
 Anish Mangal
 Sascha Silbe

 The activity editors are:

 Tomeu Vizoso
 Simon Schampijer
 Gary Martin
 Sebastian Dziallas
 Luke Faraone
 Rafael Ortiz
 James Simmons
 Aleksey Lim
 Activity Team

 We should probably cleanup both lists from people who are no longer
 actively working on ASLO.

 As always, if anyone would like to help us maintaining ASLO or any other
 service provided by Sugar Labs, just let one of the Infrastructure Team
 members know. We hire volunteers after a short interview to ensure
 that they have the necessary technical skills and they intend to take
 the job seriously. Of course, when you run out of free time you can step
 down (responsibly!) from your role.


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   // Bernie Innocenti - http://codewiz.org/
  \X/  Sugar Labs   - http://sugarlabs.org/


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