Attachments
On Mon, 20 Sep 1999, David Young wrote: > As a fairly new member of the list I was just about to send the results of a > simple experiment I made during the eclipse as an attachment (because > without the picture it would not have meant very much) when all the > correspondence about attachments erupted. I have therefore not sent it > thanking my lucky stars that my fingers were not burnt! > However I do think Daniel's comments about allowing small attachments to be > a good compromise. After all, a picture or diagram is often an essential > part of a message when communicating about sundials. > > Greetings to All > David In the immortal words of our American icon, Popeye the Sailor, "That's all I can stands, I can't stands no more!!" As an experiment, I will create a free Website. I'll accept and display graphical attachments, until I run out of space or time to maintain the site. Send me an email with a description of the graphic (or other binary, I suppose). I'll respond as soon as possible, but please wait until I do, before sending me the attachment. I'll upload it onto the page and send you all the URL. If this works out, it can save a lot of annoyance on this list! It may take a day or so to set up, but I will announce it soon. Dave Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note that this is a pseudo address. If you use this for sending me the above, it will be easy to keep separate from other mail!)
size limits
I'm not sure if Daniel Roth meant for each of us to vote on his limitation suggestion, but if so, I vote for 50 KB. Mac Oglesby
Lrge mails
I agree completly with the proposal suggested by Patrick Powers : << for a limit that's just a tad larger - say 40-50kb since there is a real benefit from having the facility to include attachments but at that sort of size the time taken to retrieve them (12-15 secs) is so much less than that of going to a web page or sending an e-mail asking for the image. Furthermore one can get good detail into a jpeg of that size and where dialling diagrams are concerned that would be a help >> Gianni --- Ing.Gianni Ferrari Via Valdrighi, 135 41100 - MODENA (ITALY) EMail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.tripod.com/meridiane/index.htm ---
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To all on sundial friends As a fairly new member of the list I was just about to send the results of a simple experiment I made during the eclipse as an attachment (because without the picture it would not have meant very much) when all the correspondence about attachments erupted. I have therefore not sent it thanking my lucky stars that my fingers were not burnt! However I do think Daniel's comments about allowing small attachments to be a good compromise. After all, a picture or diagram is often an essential part of a message when communicating about sundials. Greetings to All David
Re: Reminder (tryout) XXX YYY XXX
Tom and List > >For me at any rate, the XXX YYY XXX thing wouldn't work at >all, because with my mail progarm I have to wait until the >bloody file is downloaded before I could eve see the >XXX YYY XXX--and the whole purpose is to avoid the >long download times for unwanted files in the first >instance. > >I favor a voluntary ( or majordomo imposed) 25K limit >on emails, including attachments (if any) > The good intention was that this would be a very small file which would download in a jiffy but the Subject strip (XXX YYY XXX) would mean that longterm members wouldn't have to bother to even *open* it to see what it containedand of course it might inhibit those large files that none of us want. In any case it's a redundant point now as the majordomo solution should solve it at source. Best Wishes. Tony M.
Re: Re Attachments
John Carmichael wrote > >Why not do both: send your no e-mail image message at regular intervals AND >also restrict the amount of data that can be sent? > It can do no harm I suppose. If nobody objects I'll take it on board. Regards. Tony M.
My spelling mistake
Dear sundial friend My spelling mistake -ploe- is shold be -pole- Loy Chun __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
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Dear sundial friend I have a mistake on Toronto logitude. It is not East. It is West. But my calculation is the West. We have a ploe at at midle of the box far from the wall as the wall hight and high as the wall hight. Thank you very for any suggestion Loy Chun __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
RE: Reminder (tryout) XXX YYY XXX
I would recommend a subject line similar to: No attachments please! on a monthly basis. > -- > From: Tony Moss > Sent: Monday, September 20, 1999 5:14 AM > To: Sundial Mail List > Subject: Reminder (tryout) XXX YYY XXX > > All new subscribers to the Sundial Mailing List are reminded that only > text messages should be sent to The List. Images in any form, JPEGs, > GIFs etc MUST NOT be attached to messages. If you wish to share images > then send a text message inviting individuals to make contact or place > them on a website and give notice of the URL. > > *** > > Unless there is strong disagreement I could send out something similar to > the above at regular intervals. The distinctive title with XXX YYY XXX > would allow other members to discard it unread. > > Tony Moss >
large mails
>I would set this value to 25 kB so that e.g. small image can be sent (at the moment the value for maxlength is set to 10 MB :-). Would this find agreement?< I would plead for a limit that's just a tad larger - say 40-50kb since, as I mentioned before, there is a real benefit from having the facility to include attachments but at that sort of size the time taken to retrieve them (12-15 secs) is so much less than that of going to a web page or sending an e-mail asking for the image. Furthermore one can get good detail into a jpeg of that size and where dialling diagrams are concerned that would be a help. I agree though that anything that stops bigger files would be useful - even to all of us since it's so easy to click by mistake on (say) the TIFF version of a scanned image rather than the processed JPEG. Patrick
Re: Re Attachments
Dear Tony Why not do both: send your no e-mail image message at regular intervals AND also restrict the amount of data that can be sent? John Carmichael >(This may be a repeat message - if so please accept my apologies) > >Fellow Shadow Watchers. > >Isn't it always the case? The moment you press the 'Send' button (as for >the message below) a better solution comes in by return (Daniel Roth's >email fixing the majordomo software to a small maximum!) > >Please ignore > >Tony Moss. >> >>All new subscribers to the Sundial Mailing List are reminded that only >>text messages should be sent to The List. Images in any form, JPEGs, >>GIFs etc MUST NOT be attached to messages. If you wish to share images >>then send a text message inviting individuals to make contact or place >>them on a website and give notice of the URL. >> >>*** >> >>Unless there is strong disagreement I could send out something similar to >>the above at regular intervals. The distinctive title with XXX YYY XXX >>would allow other members to discard it unread. >> >>Tony Moss > >
Re: large mails
Daniel, A perfect compromise. ++ron -Original Message- From: Daniel Roth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: sundial@rrz.uni-koeln.de Date: Monday, September 20, 1999 3:53 AM Subject: large mails > >Dear Gnomonists of this mailing list! > >I will check out if it is possible to discard mails larger than a certain >size with the majordomo software which runs this list. So far I've found >one parameter called maxlength which seems to do that job. I would set >this value to 25 kB so that e.g. small image can be sent (at the moment >the value for maxlength is set to 10 MB :-). Would this find agreement? > >Regards - > >- Daniel Roth, sundial mailing list > > >
Appreciation
List participants, Who will join in a word of thanks for Tony- "The Voice of Reason"- Moss, who went straight to the point, and offered a solution to the problem? Blessed are the peacemakers, especially the practical-minded ones. Bill
Re: Reminder (tryout) XXX YYY XXX
Tony, Might I suggest a "real" subject line, e.g., "Sundial List: eMail attachment reminder". That would jog the memories of those of us who have been on the list for a while and will catch the attention of newcomers. A title like "XXX YYY" might be mistaken for spam. Clem At 10:14 AM 09/20/1999 +0100, Tony Moss wrote: >All new subscribers to the Sundial Mailing List are reminded that only >text messages should be sent to The List. Images in any form, JPEGs, >GIFs etc MUST NOT be attached to messages. If you wish to share images >then send a text message inviting individuals to make contact or place >them on a website and give notice of the URL. > >*** > >Unless there is strong disagreement I could send out something similar to >the above at regular intervals. The distinctive title with XXX YYY XXX >would allow other members to discard it unread. > >Tony Moss >
QuickBASIC
On the topic of using BASIC to write sundial programs... I have used Microsoft QuickBASIC to to write a number of programs, including some for sundials. In a recent computer crash QB vanished from my system, and I cannot find the original installation disks. Perhaps some reader of this list has the QuickBASIC installation disks and would be willing to copy them for me? Thank you, Bob Terwilliger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re Attachments
(This may be a repeat message - if so please accept my apologies) Fellow Shadow Watchers. Isn't it always the case? The moment you press the 'Send' button (as for the message below) a better solution comes in by return (Daniel Roth's email fixing the majordomo software to a small maximum!) Please ignore Tony Moss. > >All new subscribers to the Sundial Mailing List are reminded that only >text messages should be sent to The List. Images in any form, JPEGs, >GIFs etc MUST NOT be attached to messages. If you wish to share images >then send a text message inviting individuals to make contact or place >them on a website and give notice of the URL. > >*** > >Unless there is strong disagreement I could send out something similar to >the above at regular intervals. The distinctive title with XXX YYY XXX >would allow other members to discard it unread. > >Tony Moss
Attachments.
In long distance sailing there is a rule of thumb which advises not to make changes to the trim for ten minutes after small changes in sailing conditions, to ensure that these condition changes are true and lasting. I should have applied this rule to my response to Loy Chun's contribution to the list. It was afterall the first time he had made such a contribution and could not have known the conversations which had gone on on this topic before he joined us. Had I waited ten minutes before responding, I would probably have been a lot less direct and sharply critical. Loy has kindly written to me privately, and I am delighted to acknowledge this and offer my regrets to him publically for the sharpness of my response. May I also thank all those who have written to me with advice on ways to overcome the problems of expensive downloads. We have some expertise on this list! Paul Murphy
large mails
Dear Gnomonists of this mailing list! I will check out if it is possible to discard mails larger than a certain size with the majordomo software which runs this list. So far I've found one parameter called maxlength which seems to do that job. I would set this value to 25 kB so that e.g. small image can be sent (at the moment the value for maxlength is set to 10 MB :-). Would this find agreement? Regards - - Daniel Roth, sundial mailing list
postcards eclipse 99
Dear Dialists, I am looking for postcards of the eclipse 99, especially those which show astronomical faults like this: www.hs-bremen.de/planetarium/pldpost.htm Can you help me? Please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Best regards, Dieter Vornholz Feldstr. 26 D-28203 Bremen Germany
Reminder (tryout) XXX YYY XXX
All new subscribers to the Sundial Mailing List are reminded that only text messages should be sent to The List. Images in any form, JPEGs, GIFs etc MUST NOT be attached to messages. If you wish to share images then send a text message inviting individuals to make contact or place them on a website and give notice of the URL. *** Unless there is strong disagreement I could send out something similar to the above at regular intervals. The distinctive title with XXX YYY XXX would allow other members to discard it unread. Tony Moss
