high dials

[Silas Higgon]

The attachment is an inscription on a recently restored dial  :)

How close to God can you get?

Silas.
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Re: Sundial Cupolas

[John Carmichael]

Hi Thierry:
 
I would call the structure at Westminster a 
sundial tower and not a sundial cupola. But the idea is about the 
same.   thanks for the photos.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Thierry van Steenberghe 
  
  To: John Carmichael 
  Cc: Sundial List 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 9:23 
  AM
  Subject: Re: Sundial Cupolas
  In addition to my earlier message re St Margaret, you can see a 
  nice picture of the church (and one of the dials) at http://www.westminster-abbey.org/stmargarets/index.htmlwhile 
  the dials themselves are described athttp://www.westminster-abbey.org/stmargarets/guide/tow_bell.htmThierry-- 
  
  
  __Thierry van 
  Steenberghe50.5N 4.3E__ 
  John Carmichael wrote:
  



Hello All:
 [...] 
Have any of you ever seen a cupola or "clock 
tower" with sundials instead of clocks?
 
  

Re: Sundial Cupolas

[Thierry van Steenberghe]

In addition to my earlier message re St Margaret, you can see a nice
picture of the church (and one of the dials) at
http://www.westminster-abbey.org/stmargarets/index.html

while the dials themselves are described at
http://www.westminster-abbey.org/stmargarets/guide/tow_bell.htm

Thierry
-- 

tvs - sign


__

Thierry van
Steenberghe
50.5N 4.3E
__ 


John Carmichael wrote:

  
  
  
  Hello All:
   
[...]
  Have any of you ever seen a cupola
or "clock tower" with sundials instead of clocks?
   
  







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Re: Sundial Cupolas

[Thierry van Steenberghe]

John Carmichael wrote:

  
  
  
  Hello All:
   [...]
  Have any of you ever seen a cupola
or "clock tower" with sundials instead of clocks?
   

I remember that St Margaret church, near
Westminster, London (UK) has a square tower with a round blue sundial
on each of the four faces, yes, including north. (I can't remember
whether this is instead or in addition to mechanical clock faces: does
it matter?)

Now, I was wondering: is "cupola" the right term for this thing? In
French you call it "une lanterne", while "une coupole" is a dome; of
course, English is not my mother language, is there any architectural
terminology buff out there to, well, enlight me (éclairer ma lanterne)?

Cheers,
Thierry
-- 

tvs - sign


__

Thierry van
Steenberghe
50.5N 4.3E
__ 





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Re: Sundial Cupolas

[John Carmichael]

examples you found really are beautiful and quite ornate.  My design will be 
more American in style, but basically the same idea.


By the way, if any of you design a sundial cupola, be careful to watch out 
for shading from roof eave overhang.  The "Pagoda" designs have big 
overhangs that might shade the southern dials at midday in the summer.


John

- Original Message - 
From: "Frans W. Maes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "John Carmichael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Sundial List" 
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 2:23 AM
Subject: Re: Sundial Cupolas



Hi John & all,

Only after I saw the cupolas in your links, I understood that these were 
not

dome-shaped, but square. I found some examples in the Netherlands, which I
put temporarily on my website, at: www.fransmaes.nl/sundials/cupola.htm .

You surely will show us the results of your enterprise?

Best regards,
Frans

- Original Message - 
From: "John Carmichael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Sundial List" 
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 6:55 PM
Subject: Sundial Cupolas


Hello All:

I'm considering building or buying a four-sided painted wood cupola with a
copper roof for the roof of a home. I'd like to put a sundial on each face
of the cupola and then a neat weathervane on top.  I've had great fun
searching for cupolas and weathervanes online.  There are and endless
variety of styles and available.  Most of the companies that sell cupolas
also sell weathervanes.

Here's a photo of one of the windcup weathervanes I like:
http://weathervanesofmaine.com/weathervane-wc9821.html

And I'm thinking of a cupola that would look something like this (Glassed
Mahogany Pagoda
with 701 Finial Image 2), but with sundial faces instead of windows:
http://www.weathervanecupola.com/cat/cupolas.html

Have any of you ever seen a cupola or "clock tower" with sundials instead 
of

clocks?

John

p.s.  Do you think the copper weathervane will act like a lightning rod?
Maybe it should be grounded?

p.p.s A lot of the weathervane websites sell marvelous copper finials that 
a

dialist could use for perpendicular gnomons.


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Re: Sundial Cupolas

[John Carmichael]

been mentioned to me by the people on the Sundial List.

In the United States, wooden cupolas with copper roofs are somewhat common 
in New England.  They were usually used to vent hot air out of a building's 
attic.  They were also used for bird houses and clocks.  Now, they are 
usually just ornamental.  The old one in Cambridge is of stone.  I wonder if 
there are any old wooden cupolas in the US with sundials. I don't think 
there are any in the NASS registry.


I'll send you a drawing (in progress) of my cupola design by separate email.

John




- Original Message - 
From: "Andrew James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "John Carmichael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Sundial List" 


Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 4:18 AM
Subject: RE: Sundial Cupolas



There is a modern (1990s?) cupola with a South sundial on it at South
Warnborough, in Hampshire. I believe the owner originally intended to
put a clock in as well but am not sure whether he ever did. I can think
of a few other similar arrangements around the country - for example I
think Goodwood House has a large 18th century sundial and clock in such
a position. However I can't recall seeing a proper set of four dials so
arranged.

Do you count the Gate of Honour at Gonville and Caius College,
Cambridge, with its six sundials, as a cupola? See
http://www.cai.cam.ac.uk/map/cCourt.php for a good view.

If you ground the weathervane, bear in mind that lightning conductors
should be substantial, avoid sharp bends, and go to a very good earth
indeed.

Andrew James

-Original Message-
From: John Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 19 March 2005 17:56
To: Sundial List
Subject: Sundial Cupolas

Hello All:

I'm considering building or buying a four-sided painted wood cupola with
a copper roof for the roof of a home. I'd like to put a sundial on each
face of the cupola and then a neat weathervane on top.

Have any of you ever seen a cupola or "clock tower" with sundials
instead of clocks?

John

p.s.  Do you think the copper weathervane will act like a lightning rod?
Maybe it should be grounded?



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Ephemeris program

[anselmo]

Dear all,

Have you ever wanted to determine the average
EoT for the 16ht century or the solar radiation
received by a sundial surface along a whole year
or things like that?... No program makes such
specific calculations and for many of us 
C++ or Java programming may be unaffordable.

Well, there is a wonderful ephemeris freeware
at http://www.alcyone-ephemeris.info/main.html
that, among other things, processes scripts made
by the user. These scripts are very powerful and
simple to build and deserve spending some time
with them. The whole software is really astonishing!

Now changing the topic: has anyone tried one
of these little solar telescopes made by Coronado?
Are they as impressive as they seem?


Best regards,

Anselmo

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RE: Sundial Cupolas

[Andrew James]

There is a modern (1990s?) cupola with a South sundial on it at South
Warnborough, in Hampshire. I believe the owner originally intended to
put a clock in as well but am not sure whether he ever did. I can think
of a few other similar arrangements around the country - for example I
think Goodwood House has a large 18th century sundial and clock in such
a position. However I can't recall seeing a proper set of four dials so
arranged.

Do you count the Gate of Honour at Gonville and Caius College,
Cambridge, with its six sundials, as a cupola? See
http://www.cai.cam.ac.uk/map/cCourt.php for a good view.

If you ground the weathervane, bear in mind that lightning conductors
should be substantial, avoid sharp bends, and go to a very good earth
indeed.

Andrew James
 
 -Original Message-
From: John Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 19 March 2005 17:56
To: Sundial List
Subject: Sundial Cupolas

Hello All:

I'm considering building or buying a four-sided painted wood cupola with
a copper roof for the roof of a home. I'd like to put a sundial on each
face of the cupola and then a neat weathervane on top.  
 
Have any of you ever seen a cupola or "clock tower" with sundials
instead of clocks?

John

p.s.  Do you think the copper weathervane will act like a lightning rod?
Maybe it should be grounded?



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PRI House, Moorside Road
Winchester, Hampshire
SO23 7RX United Kingdom   
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RE: high dials

[Andrew James]

There is a moderate sized brass South facing sundial about 25 feet up at
the top of a stair turret at Axbridge church, Somerset. I've always
wondered how it was to be read - unless you could climb out onto the
roof and peer over the edge. But it wouldn't be much use for setting the
clock, either.

Unless of course, following Mike Shaw's suggestion, horses were MUCH,
MUCH bigger at the start of the 19th century - or perhaps the then
Squire had a personal elephant with a really spectacular howdah? ;-)

Andrew James


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Re: Sundial Cupolas

[Frans W. Maes]

Hi John & all,

Only after I saw the cupolas in your links, I understood that these were not
dome-shaped, but square. I found some examples in the Netherlands, which I
put temporarily on my website, at: www.fransmaes.nl/sundials/cupola.htm .

You surely will show us the results of your enterprise?

Best regards,
Frans

- Original Message - 
From: "John Carmichael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Sundial List" 
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 6:55 PM
Subject: Sundial Cupolas


Hello All:

I'm considering building or buying a four-sided painted wood cupola with a
copper roof for the roof of a home. I'd like to put a sundial on each face
of the cupola and then a neat weathervane on top.  I've had great fun
searching for cupolas and weathervanes online.  There are and endless
variety of styles and available.  Most of the companies that sell cupolas
also sell weathervanes.

Here's a photo of one of the windcup weathervanes I like:
http://weathervanesofmaine.com/weathervane-wc9821.html

And I'm thinking of a cupola that would look something like this (Glassed
Mahogany Pagoda
with 701 Finial Image 2), but with sundial faces instead of windows:
http://www.weathervanecupola.com/cat/cupolas.html

Have any of you ever seen a cupola or "clock tower" with sundials instead of
clocks?

John

p.s.  Do you think the copper weathervane will act like a lightning rod?
Maybe it should be grounded?

p.p.s A lot of the weathervane websites sell marvelous copper finials that a
dialist could use for perpendicular gnomons.


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Re: Re: high dials

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