SV: Where are the women?

[Bruvold Anne]

I'm here too - just a bit on the "too busy" side to do much more than keeping 
an eye on what's going on in the list. I work in a small Science Centre and we 
are opening a new building with exhibitions soon. We are slowly expanding the 
staff and the latest addition in the staff also thinks we need a sundial on the 
roof of the new building :-) Sadly it can't be a 24 hour sundial as the old 
building will cast a shadow on the roof at night.

Best AnneB, also a woman
69:39 N 18:56 E



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Fra: sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de [mailto:sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de] På 
vegne av Schechner, Sara
Sendt: 11. mars 2011 00:24
Til: Marcelo; Sundial List
Emne: RE: Where are the women?



Hey, hey, I just wrote in to the list a day ago.  :)But I'll grant you that 
some of us are rather quiet online because we are too busy with other 
things-like cataloguing sundials in museums.



Sara (a woman last I checked)



Sara J. Schechner, Ph.D.

David P. Wheatland Curator of the Collection of Historical Scientific 
Instruments

Department of the History of Science, Harvard University

Science Center 251c, 1 Oxford Street, Cambridge, MA 02138

Tel: 617-496-9542   |   Fax: 617-496-5932   |   sche...@fas.harvard.edu

http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~hsdept/chsi.html







From: sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de [mailto:sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de] On 
Behalf Of Marcelo
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 6:13 PM
To: Sundial List
Subject: Where are the women?



I've just noticed that, as long as I remember, there is no female participation 
in this mailing list. As I study in the Astronomical and Geophysical Institute 
at the University of Sao Paulo, where we lack not of the gracious presence of 
women - there are more men here, but women are expressive too - I strange their 
absence from our astronomical inquiries and conversations. Maybe there is some 
truth in that old cliché of men being more prone to math and abstration than 
them?

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Re: Where are the women?

[patrick_powers]

Well, just doing a simple count of those who title themselves Mrs, Miss and Ms 
(That is to say ignoring those ladies who title themselves Dr and Prof, Rev and 
any non-Engish titles  etc) in the BSS Members list of a few months ago we have 
46.  That’s about 10% of the membership.
 
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Re: Moscow sundial?

[Willy Leenders]

As Roger already noted, most of the people  stood on the label of the month, 
rather than on the point on the centerline to which the label referred.

Who knows a means by which visitors to a analemmatic  sundial stand intuitively 
in the right place ?
An instruction on a information panel doesn't work.

I try it to place the labels of the month at a distance away from a separate 
meridian line.
see http://www.wijzerweb.be/hasselt010A.html


Willy Leenders
Hasselt in Flanders (Belgium)

Visit my website about the sundials in the province of Limburg (Flanders) with 
a section 'worth knowing about sundials' (mostly in Dutch): 
http://www.wijzerweb.be







Op 10-mrt-2011, om 00:13 heeft Roger W. Sinnott het volgende geschreven:

> Hi Reinhold,
>  
> Yes, that’s it!!  Many thanks.
>  
> When it was first posted, I remember a comment by someone on this list:   
> Most of the people  stood on the label of the month, rather than on the point 
> on the centerline to which the label referred.  (I’m not sure what point the 
> pigeons went to.)
>  
> Roger
>  
> Direct link:  http://www.youtube.com/user/AleksandrBoldyrev?gl=RU&hl=ru
>  
>  
> From: Reinhold Kriegler [mailto:reinhold.krieg...@gmx.de] 
> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 5:47 PM
> To: 'Roger W. Sinnott'; 'Sundial List'
> Subject: AW: Moscow sundial?
>  
>  
> Dear Roger,
>  
> it might well be you are looking for the very beautiful sundial-YouTube-film 
> which you can easily find within this link:
>  
> http://www.ta-dip.de/sonnenuhren/sonnenuhren-von-freunden/r-u-s-s-l-a-n-d/aleksandr-w-boldyrev.html
>  
> Have a look!
> The beautiful young Russian women enjoy this sundial, made by Aleksandr W 
> Boldyrev as well as the pigeons and the little children… and some men!
> Enjoy!
>  
> Best regards!
> Reinhold Kriegler
> 
> 
> * ** ***  * ** ***
>  
> Reinhold R. Kriegler
>  
> Lat. 53° 6' 52,6" Nord; Long. 8° 53' 52,3 Ost; 48 m ü. N.N.  GMT +1 (DST +2)  
>  www.ta-dip.de
>  
> http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=XyCoJHwzzjU&fmt=18
>  
> http://www.ta-dip.de/dies-und-das/r-e-i-n-h-o-l-d.html
>  
>  
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de [mailto:sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de] Im 
> Auftrag von Roger W. Sinnott
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 9. März 2011 22:44
> An: 'Sundial List'
> Betreff: Moscow sundial?
>  
> All,
>  
> I am trying to find a YouTube video that was linked to from this list
> several years ago.
>  
> It shows a large analemmatic sundial located in a public park in Moscow (I
> think).  Various passersby tried to figure out how it worked, where to
> stand, etc., and it was pretty funny.  This could not have been before 2005,
> the year YouTube started.
>  
> Anyone have the link?
>  
> Roger
>  
>  
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AW: Moscow sundial and Trieste analemmatic sundial...

[Reinhold Kriegler]

Dear friends,
 
I prefer the completely different idea of the two Italian gnomonists
Paolo Albéri Auber and Aurelio Pantanali, who have written the
information right besides the analemma-line into the floor of the Piazza
della Borsa- place! No extra panel is needed and people stay long very
close to the line and do their shadow experiments. A nice long story
about this sundial can be seen in the beginning of this link
http://www.ta-dip.de/dies-und-das/schwarzes-brett.html , starting with…

I T A L I E N


Piazza della Borsa è una delle piazze principali di Trieste. Conosciuta
anche come il secondo salotto buono cittadino la piazza è stata il
centro economico della città per tutto il XIX secolo.
 
Greetings to all Analemmatic sundial fans … 
 
Reinhold Kriegler
 
 
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Reinhold R. Kriegler
Lat. 53° 6' 52,6" Nord; Long. 8° 53' 52,3 Ost; 48 m ü. N.N.  GMT +1 (DST
+2)   www.ta-dip.de
 
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=XyCoJHwzzjU&fmt=18
 
http://www.ta-dip.de/dies-und-das/r-e-i-n-h-o-l-d.html
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de [mailto:sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de]
Im Auftrag von Willy Leenders
Gesendet: Freitag, 11. März 2011 12:38
An: Sundial List
Betreff: Re: Moscow sundial?
 
As Roger already noted, most of the people  stood on the label of the
month, rather than on the point on the centerline to which the label
referred.

Who knows a means by which visitors to a analemmatic  sundial stand
intuitively in the right place ?
An instruction on a information panel doesn't work.

I try it to place the labels of the month at a distance away from a
separate meridian line.
see http://www.wijzerweb.be/hasselt010A.html
 
 
Willy Leenders
Hasselt in Flanders (Belgium)
 
Visit my website about the sundials in the province of Limburg
(Flanders) with a section 'worth knowing about sundials' (mostly in
Dutch): http://www.wijzerweb.be
 
 
 
 



 
Op 10-mrt-2011, om 00:13 heeft Roger W. Sinnott het volgende geschreven:



Hi Reinhold,
 
Yes, that’s it!!  Many thanks.
 
When it was first posted, I remember a comment by someone on this list:
Most of the people  stood on the label of the month, rather than on the
point on the centerline to which the label referred.  (I’m not sure what
point the pigeons went to.)
 
Roger
 
Direct link:  http://www.youtube.com/user/AleksandrBoldyrev?gl=RU
 &hl=ru
 
 
From: Reinhold Kriegler [mailto:reinhold.krieg...@gmx.de] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 5:47 PM
To: 'Roger W. Sinnott'; 'Sundial List'
Subject: AW: Moscow sundial?
 
 
Dear Roger,
 
it might well be you are looking for the very beautiful
sundial-YouTube-film which you can easily find within this link:
 
http://www.ta-dip.de/sonnenuhren/sonnenuhren-von-freunden/r-u-s-s-l-a-n-
d/aleksandr-w-boldyrev.html
 
Have a look!
The beautiful young Russian women enjoy this sundial, made by Aleksandr
W Boldyrev as well as the pigeons and the little children… and some men!
Enjoy!
 
Best regards!
Reinhold Kriegler




* ** ***  * ** ***
 
Reinhold R. Kriegler
 
Lat. 53° 6' 52,6" Nord; Long. 8° 53' 52,3 Ost; 48 m ü. N.N.  GMT +1 (DST
+2)   www.ta-dip.de
 
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=XyCoJHwzzjU
 &fmt=18
 
http://www.ta-dip.de/dies-und-das/r-e-i-n-h-o-l-d.html
 
 
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de [mailto:sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de]
Im Auftrag von Roger W. Sinnott
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 9. März 2011 22:44
An: 'Sundial List'
Betreff: Moscow sundial?
 
All,
 
I am trying to find a YouTube video that was linked to from this list
several years ago.
 
It shows a large analemmatic sundial located in a public park in Moscow
(I
think).  Various passersby tried to figure out how it worked, where to
stand, etc., and it was pretty funny.  This could not have been before
2005,
the year YouTube started.
 
Anyone have the link?
 
Roger
 
 
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Re: Where are the women?

[Roser Raluy]

Women are here, maybe female names are not too obvious for people speaking
different languages and comunicating in english. My name is Roser wich means
"rosebush"and is certainly a female name.
Greetings to all
Roser

2011/3/11 

>
>  Well, just doing a simple count of those who title themselves Mrs, Miss
> and Ms (That is to say ignoring those ladies who title themselves Dr and
> Prof, Rev and any non-Engish titles  etc) in the BSS Members list of a few
> months ago we have 46.  That’s about 10% of the membership.
>
> Patrick
>
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RE: Moscow sundial?

[John Carmichael]

Some human analemmatics have footprints indicating where people should
stand.

 

From: sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de [mailto:sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de] On
Behalf Of Willy Leenders
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 4:38 AM
To: Sundial List
Subject: Re: Moscow sundial?

 

As Roger already noted, most of the people  stood on the label of the month,
rather than on the point on the centerline to which the label referred.


Who knows a means by which visitors to a analemmatic  sundial stand
intuitively in the right place ?

An instruction on a information panel doesn't work.


I try it to place the labels of the month at a distance away from a separate
meridian line.

see http://www.wijzerweb.be/hasselt010A.html

 

 

Willy Leenders

Hasselt in Flanders (Belgium)

 

Visit my website about the sundials in the province of Limburg (Flanders)
with a section 'worth knowing about sundials' (mostly in Dutch):
http://www.wijzerweb.be

 

 

 

 





 

Op 10-mrt-2011, om 00:13 heeft Roger W. Sinnott het volgende geschreven:





Hi Reinhold,

 

Yes, that’s it!!  Many thanks.

 

When it was first posted, I remember a comment by someone on this list:
Most of the people  stood on the label of the month, rather than on the
point on the centerline to which the label referred.  (I’m not sure what
point the pigeons went to.)

 

Roger

 

Direct link:  http://www.youtube.com/user/AleksandrBoldyrev?gl=RU
 &hl=ru

 

 

From: Reinhold Kriegler [mailto:reinhold.krieg...@gmx.de] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2011 5:47 PM
To: 'Roger W. Sinnott'; 'Sundial List'
Subject: AW: Moscow sundial?

 

 

Dear Roger,

 

it might well be you are looking for the very beautiful sundial-YouTube-film
which you can easily find within this link:

 

http://www.ta-dip.de/sonnenuhren/sonnenuhren-von-freunden/r-u-s-s-l-a-n-d/al
eksandr-w-boldyrev.html

 

Have a look!

The beautiful young Russian women enjoy this sundial, made by Aleksandr W
Boldyrev as well as the pigeons and the little children… and some men!

Enjoy!

 

Best regards!

Reinhold Kriegler





* ** ***  * ** ***

 

Reinhold R. Kriegler

 

Lat. 53° 6' 52,6" Nord; Long. 8° 53' 52,3 Ost; 48 m ü. N.N.  GMT +1 (DST +2)
www.ta-dip.de

 

http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=XyCoJHwzzjU
 &fmt=18

 

http://www.ta-dip.de/dies-und-das/r-e-i-n-h-o-l-d.html

 

 

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de [mailto:sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de] Im
Auftrag von Roger W. Sinnott
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 9. März 2011 22:44
An: 'Sundial List'
Betreff: Moscow sundial?

 

All,

 

I am trying to find a YouTube video that was linked to from this list

several years ago.

 

It shows a large analemmatic sundial located in a public park in Moscow (I

think).  Various passersby tried to figure out how it worked, where to

stand, etc., and it was pretty funny.  This could not have been before 2005,

the year YouTube started.

 

Anyone have the link?

 

Roger

 

 

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BSS Bulletin on DVD

[JOHN DAVIS]

Dear Dialling Colleagues,
 
The British Sundial Society is pleased to announce that the full run of BSS 
Bulletins, from the start of the Society in 1989 until September 2010 (a total 
of 75 issues) is now available on a DVD-R.
 
The cost of the DVD to BSS members is £25 +p&p. It may also be purchased at a 
cost of £75 by non-members, though it would be advantageous to join to get the 
lower price! Contact BSS Sales (Elspeth Hill at mem...@ehill80.fsnet.co.uk) to 
purchase, or me for any technical enquiry. 
 
The BSS is grateful to Kevin Karney, assisted by Elaine Hyde, for the 
conversion of the 75 issues into PDF files. 
 
Regards,
 
John
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RE: BSS Bulletin on DVD

[John Carmichael]

This is wonderful news John D. !

 

I have all the digital Compendiums on my computers and this format comes in
very handy and I use them often- usually when I’m researching something or
on the road.  You have sent me many PDF copies of BSS articles in the past
for use in our websites, and I’ve noticed that I can see much higher quality
graphics in the digital format than in printed paper BSS Bulletin.  And I
can zoom in on them too and can copy photos and articles.   (But I still
love my paper copy for first-time reading!)

 

This is a great step forward for The British Sundial Societry, and it will
be a wonderful resource.  Congratulations to everybody involved at the BSS
for putting this together.  I’m sure it was a lot of work to get it done.  I
will contact Elspeth Hill at mem...@ehill80.fsnet.co.uk to order my copy!

 

Thanks from all of us,

 

John Carmichael

 

 

From: sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de [mailto:sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de] On
Behalf Of JOHN DAVIS
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2011 9:17 AM
To: sundial@uni-koeln.de
Cc: Elspeth Hill
Subject: BSS Bulletin on DVD

 


Dear Dialling Colleagues,

 

The British Sundial Society is pleased to announce that the full run of BSS
Bulletins, from the start of the Society in 1989 until September 2010 (a
total of 75 issues) is now available on a DVD-R.

 

The cost of the DVD to BSS members is £25 +p&p. It may also be purchased at
a cost of £75 by non-members, though it would be advantageous to join to get
the lower price! Contact BSS Sales (Elspeth Hill at
mem...@ehill80.fsnet.co.uk) to purchase, or me for any technical enquiry. 

 

The BSS is grateful to Kevin Karney, assisted by Elaine Hyde, for the
conversion of the 75 issues into PDF files. 

 

Regards,

 

John

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Flowton Dials

 

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Re: Moscow sundial?

[Frans W. Maes]

Dear all,

Willy is right in noting that instructions on information panels don't 
work. I very much like the footprints. I think they are effective, with 
or without explanatory text. From left to right in the attached 
composite picture (in black & white; the color version, at 39 kB, did 
not pass the medieval-sized size filter): Riverwalk, Augusta (Georgia); 
Hasselt (Belgium), designed by Willy Leenders (2000); Culemborg 
(Netherlands), my design (2009).


Best regards,
Frans

On 11-3-2011 16:24, John Carmichael wrote:

Some human analemmatics have footprints indicating where people should
stand.
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Re: Moscow sundial?

[Willy Leenders]

Dear all,

Frans is so kind  to show my solution in answer to my own question.
But it does not work also, as I have observed in the meantime.
The instruction "stand on the date" is not enough.
Perhaps the instruction must be: "stand on the date with the midline between 
your feet"
And yet I have my doubts.
Maybe this helps: a bathroom weighting scale on a rail along the midline and 
the instruction on the scale, "slide the scale until the date and read your 
weight and time"
This suggestion is just to initiate a brainstorming session.

Willy Leenders
Hasselt in Flanders (Belgium)

Visit my website about the sundials in the province of Limburg (Flanders) with 
a section 'worth knowing about sundials' (mostly in Dutch): 
http://www.wijzerweb.be







Op 11-mrt-2011, om 22:11 heeft Frans W. Maes het volgende geschreven:

> Dear all,
> 
> Willy is right in noting that instructions on information panels don't work. 
> I very much like the footprints. I think they are effective, with or without 
> explanatory text. From left to right in the attached composite picture (in 
> black & white; the color version, at 39 kB, did not pass the medieval-sized 
> size filter): Riverwalk, Augusta (Georgia); Hasselt (Belgium), designed by 
> Willy Leenders (2000); Culemborg (Netherlands), my design (2009).
> 
> Best regards,
> Frans
> 
> On 11-3-2011 16:24, John Carmichael wrote:
>> Some human analemmatics have footprints indicating where people should
>> stand.
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Re: Moscow sundial?

[Bill Gottesman]

That is Hilarious!  Maybe for nickle it can read your fortune, too!  
-Bill Gottesman


On 3/11/2011 4:56 PM, Willy Leenders wrote:

Maybe this helps: a bathroom weighting scale on a rail along the midline and the 
instruction on the scale, "slide the scale until the date and read your weight and 
time"
This suggestion is just to initiate a brainstorming session.

Willy Leenders
Hasselt in Flanders (Belgium)

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