Re: sundial Digest, Vol 85, Issue 30

2013-01-25 Thread jim senato
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Interesting sundial

2013-01-25 Thread Douglas Vogt
In a previous post (24 Jan. 2013), I thought a sundial in a photo was neat and 
wondered if there were plans for it. As a relative newcomer, I don't even know 
what kind it is.

That post was apparently completely misinterpreted by an irritable being as 
something having to do more with those things that run on steel rails and not 
sundials. I merely responded to the subject line. My post and the response 
caused further OTs, for which I apologize.


In any case, it is a neat sundial and I'd like to know more about it if the 
designer is not too P.O.d to respond.




 From: John Carmichael jlcarmich...@comcast.net
To: 'jim senato' j...@kcpc.com; sundial@uni-koeln.de 
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 12:32 AM
Subject: RE: sundial Digest, Vol 85, Issue 28
 

Hello Mr. Senato:
 
Do we know you?  I searched my inbox archive and see that you have only written 
one letter previously to the Sundial List back in 2011.  In that letter you 
talk about FED EX and not sundials.  See copy of your letter below.
 
Let me respectfully clue you in on a few things…
 
I have been on this mailing list for about 15 years I think, and as far as I 
know, there is no rule that we must only respond to the “subject at hand”.  If 
this were the case, then no new subjects would ever appear. Often, several 
sundial-related subjects are discussed on the same day.  However, since it is 
the Sundial List, most of us do try to limit our subjects to sundial related 
matter.
 
My last  letter was obviously about a sundial (a famous one by Tony Moss at 
that), and it included the best existing photos of that sundial as well as a 
photo of one of America’s only stained glass sundials.  It was NOT about a 
“train set”.  I don’t think I broke any Sundial List rules, and lots of people 
wrote to tell me they liked seeing the sundial  photographs. 
 
The courteous thing for you to do would be to simply ignore letters that don’t 
interest you.  We all do that.  But none of us EVER tells anyone on the list to 
shut up.  How rude was that! 
 
Think before you type.
 
Sincerely,
 
“that guy”
 
p.s. You might want to do a grammar and spelling check on your letters before 
you send them.  I’d be embarrassed if I were you.  They make you look ignorant 
and uneducated.
 
 
Letter from Jim Senato sent on 10/29/1011
 
let these people know   to call fedex next time
why would you actually go as far as filling out a form
call if you arent sure    wouldnt you know if you were tracking a package 
without  filling out something    tell them to use some common sense
this is not a big threat    
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Jim Senato
Kansas City Personal Computers
7106 Larsen
Shawnee, KS 66203
913 438 5272
 
 
John L. Carmichael
Sundial Sculptures
925 E. Foothills Dr.
Tucson AZ 85718-4716
USA
Tel: 520-6961709
Email: jlcarmich...@comcast.net 
 
My Websites:
(business) Sundial Sculptures: http://www.sundialsculptures.com 
(educational) Chinook Trail Sundial: 
http://advanceassociates.com/Sundials/COSprings/
(educational) Earth  Sky Equatorial Sundial: 
http://advanceassociates.com/Sundials/Earth-Sky_Dial/  
(educational) My Painted Wall Sundial: 
http://www.advanceassociates.com/WallDial 
(educational) Painted Wall Sundials: 
http://advanceassociates.com/WallDial/PWS_Home.html 
(educational) Stained Glass Sundials: http://www.stainedglasssundials.com 
(educational) Sundial Cupolas, Towers  Turrets: 
http://StainedGlassSundials.com/CupolaSundial/index.html 
 
From:sundial [mailto:sundial-boun...@uni-koeln.de] On Behalf Of jim senato
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 6:03 PM
To: sundial@uni-koeln.de
Subject: Re: sundial Digest, Vol 85, Issue 28
 
hi do you think we could get past this guys trainset?  this is beginning to be 
a bit of a stretch for the subject at hand.   
On 1/24/2013 5:00 AM, sundial-requ...@uni-koeln.de wrote:
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   1. Re: Man climbs Monumental Railway Sundial (Douglas Vogt)
 
 
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Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 02:15:21 -0800 (PST)
From: Douglas Vogt dbv...@yahoo.com
To: sundial@uni-koeln.de sundial@uni-koeln.de
Subject: Re: Man climbs Monumental Railway Sundial
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That's rather neat. Of course the reason for the climb is the guy has no watch.
 
Are there any plans for that sundial? It looks like something buildable on a 
small lathe - (a scale model of course!).
 
 
 

Re: NASS Conference

2013-01-25 Thread Bill Gottesman
Yay!.  -Bill

On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Fred Sawyer fwsaw...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm happy to say that the dates and hotel for the NASS conference have
 now been set!

 We will be meeting Aug. 22-25, 2013 in Boston/Cambridge, Massachusetts
 at the Courtyard by Marriott.  Full details are not yet available,
 since I am still finalizing the contract with the hotel (so please
 don't try to make a reservation yet!) - but the dates and location are
 definite.

 In a slight departure from our usual agenda, our 'tour day' on Aug. 23
 will omit the bus ride this year and will focus on two exhibits at
 Harvard - the primary one being the Time exhibit that Sara Schechner
 has mentioned on the Sundial List.  Harvard has the largest collection
 of sundials in North America, and many of them will be on view as part
 of the exhibit.  Sara, who is the curator of the collection, has also
 indicated that we may be able to schedule some special viewings and
 discussion of dials that are not in the exhibit.  Part of the exhibit
 will include walking directions to a few other dials on the Harvard
 campus - and to other Harvard museums with items of interest.  We are
 also looking into the possibility of a visit to the Harvard
 Observatory.

 Details will be available on our website and in The Compendium when
 they become available.  Plan to join us!

 Fred Sawyer
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Re: Interesting sundial

2013-01-25 Thread Roger Bailey
Hello Douglas,

Your original post deserved a response. The sundial has an equatorial disk 
inscribed on both sides with hour lines at 15° intervals. In the spring and 
summer, the upper side of the dial is in the sun. In the fall and winter the 
sun shines on the lower side. On the equinox, the sun lines up exactly with the 
disc. The gnomon is a pin oriented to the polar axis that sticks out on both 
sides. The dial is adjustable for latitude and longitude. It is a simple but 
ancient design, similar to the bronze ring in the Great Hall in Alexandria that 
determined the length of the solar and stellar years, differing due to 
precession. This is described in Ptolemy's Almagest, still considered the 
great book by many of us.

This specific sundial is significant as described by John in his original note 
on 4 Jan. Many years ago, NASS gave me the Sawyer Dialing Prize which was a 
beautiful and sturdy little brass equatorial dial made by The Great Tony Moss 
himself. Sadly, it has set on my shady workbench, much loved but unused for all 
these years. I had no sunny window available and no good place outside- until 
now! I thought what a great idea! I’ll use my Sawyer Dialing Prize Sundial as a 
miniature monumental sundial on the railroad. So I glued it on top of a stone 
pinnacle by the Trolley Station. Looks great and works just fine. Thanks Tony.

I am also pleased to own a different custom Lindisfarne Sundial by Tony Moss, a 
great craftsman, teacher and also a Sawyer Prize winner. As a long time college 
and friend, again, thanks Tony,

This list has been active for about 20 years as a way of sharing our interest 
in sundials with old friends and new. In general we are quite tolerant and open 
to sharing information. In 20 years only a couple people have been struck off 
the list for persistent annoying misbehavior. Let's keep it that way, 
tolerating the occasional interesting off topic excursions.

Regards, as usual,

Roger Bailey


From: Douglas Vogt 
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 10:31 AM
To: sundial@uni-koeln.de 
Subject: Interesting sundial


In a previous post (24 Jan. 2013), I thought a sundial in a photo was neat and 
wondered if there were plans for it. As a relative newcomer, I don't even know 
what kind it is.


That post was apparently completely misinterpreted by an irritable being as 
something having to do more with those things that run on steel rails and not 
sundials. I merely responded to the subject line. My post and the response 
caused further OTs, for which I apologize. 



In any case, it is a neat sundial and I'd like to know more about it if the 
designer is not too P.O.d to respond.
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